PLL Pinmod Overclocking Methods and Examples

Does anyone know what reserved/ test/ secret pin to jump in order to circumvent the frickin' multi lock dealing with intel chipsets?

I have alittle thing to share: via chipsets (socket m & socket p's) does not complain a bit on bsel mods, but... as you all have know... via (and sisy sis) chipset suck. Certain system with sis (sock p & m's) chipset , depend on the mainboard implementation, have absolutely no effect on bsel mods.

 

yes the problem is only with intel chipsets.
There is no way to get around it.

The only thing you can do is a PLL pin mod instead of the BSEL pin mod.
You will get the exact same results as the CPU pin mod (BSEL mod), but there will not be any multi downclocking.

It's all in the first post.

 

probably someone noticed this before:

one idea is to directly up the fsb by modding the clock generator just like bosslee did at notebookforum did with his dell latitude d600 (advantage: no software fsb mod needed).

 

yes, there are instructions on how to do that in the first post here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4998927&postcount=1

Read method 2.

If you know your PLL I can help you do the mod.

 

sorry op,

I didn't know it was mentioned in method 2 (maybe i got fainted reading the gory detail of soldering/ cutting on pcb traces) . I think I do not have the heart to do that hardcore mod, yet. haha

 

Well i have ICS 9LPRS365BGLF on my laptop, i did make quick look on the datasheet and there is no TME pin.

 

Check the TME_READBACK setting as per first post of this thread. It tells you if you are TME locked by having the TME pin. Also, where is there a link to the datasheet? If you don't have it likely pin 4 is the TME pin. You can check it's logic level with a Digital multimeter (GND=0, 3.3V=1). You want a GND on the TME pin. It's all in the first post.

 

ok here is the datasheet:
http://www.darksmileysystems.com/downloads/criterion/e-wrecked//9LPRS365-SPEC.pdf

From looking at the datasheet I can see that the TME pin is pin4.

Also look on page 21, look at Byte 9. Bit 6 of byte 9 is the TME strap status.

It seems your PLL is exactly the same as myne, so you can follow what I did

First please upload a screenshot of the setfsb diagnosis screen.

 

I have attached to this post images of the pinout and also byte 9.

please look at them.

 

Ok i have uploaded screenshot of setfsb diagnostics screen.

If i press GetFSB it just tells me PLL Id Error or SMBus Error depending version of SetFSB (2.1 = SMBus Error and 2.2 = PLL Id Error).

So to enable overclocking i need do the mod on this laptop?

 

two questions:

1. what chipset does your notebook have?

2. Are you sure that is your PLL?

 

I have PM965 chipset, tested with friends T9600 2.8Ghz 1066fsb and it was working fine, i have currently in laptop Core2 T9500 2.6Ghz 800FSB

Im 100% shure that this is my PLL since i opened my laptop checked it from motherboard, its next to cpu socket under thin plastic cover.

Strange thing is that with selected clock generator ICS9248BF-26/87/96 can read it but is giving false information about fsb/ddr etc.. and cannot overclock with it.

I would take pic of the chip if i would have better camera than iPhone.

EDIT : In top of the chip reads next information.
ICS 7335743
0720
9LPRS365BGLF

 

You need to send an email to abo (creator of setfsb).

describe your problem to him.
make sure you tell him your chipset and your PLL.
you should also give him a link to the datasheet that I gave a link to before.

He will then give you a test version of setfsb.

You can find his email on his website. If you want I will PM it to you.

 

He says, "i think you dont know, i dont support you"

 

you have to email him a photo of your PLL to prove you know that it is your PLL.

Try to take a clear photo of the PLL.

 

setfsb author Abo will not assist noobs. He's pretty upfront on what he wants and the sort of users he supports:

 

at this point abo does not believe that you are telling the truth about your PLL.

he thinks you just guess it's ICS9LPRS365. You have to prove that you know for a fact that it is ICS9LPRS365.

That is why I suggest you send a photo to prove it.
When he believes you know the PLL, he will help.

make sure you are polite in your email.


One more thing you should do is try all of the other available PLLs in setfsb that start with "ICS".

 

Well all of them give eather SMBus error or PLL Id Error, only thats even remotely able to read is first 4 in the list but with false readouts and ocing wont work.

I need get somewhere better camera then i can take photo of the PLL.

 

Change "ICS9LPRS355BGLF" in the screen below to be "PLL Diagnosis". The Diagnosis window will only give configuration registers 00-0C, which is good enough to determine if TME mode is enabled. If so, then apply mod to pin 4 of the PLL to remove TME mode.

 

Even PLL Diagnostics cannot read any information. There is just nothing in the PLL Control Registers box, this leads me to belive that Fujitsu-Siemens actually have somehow disabled reads from PLL so i cannot get SetFSB to read it at all.

 

I think setfsb is not recognising your SMbus.

Tell abo that not even "PLL diagnosis" works.


Also there is another PLL hardware mod you could do to overclock.
It would involve grounding a pin. You would then have your FSB at 266mhz.
you have to make sure your ram will handle that.

 

He keaps saying same thing even after i provided images of pll and described problem, he is just saying.

"You have no manners. I do not support you"

Like wth i never been rude or anything, allways been polite? Obiviously hes ego is too big and hes not going to provide help due i found problem in hes program.

Anyway anyone else knows help for this problem?

 

....
Left: Identify RCBA address first
Right: Identify if SMBUS is enabled. Can enable it by writing 0 to bit 3.

A suggestion I can make is to to enable the SMBUS in case it's not enabled.

 

lol, I have a funny story that I will PM you

Since you're happy to modify the PLL, you could just make a hardware mod from 200mhz to 266mhz.

follow method 2 here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4998927&postcount=1

It would be a simple hardware mod and you wouldn't need any software (setfsb).

Also try using clockgen (software like setfsb), but it's unlikely to work.

Your best chance is a hardware PLL mod like method 2.

I will do my best to help you with that ^^.

 

Well mine seems to be FED1C001 and that means i should be looking for FED1F418 by memory adress?

If this is true, my SMBUS is enabled!

 

this might be a ghetto suggestion:

pls check if there is any unknown devices in your "device manager"? that might be smbus related device needed installing ...

yeah, i can relate to that...Abo san sometimes gives weird reply. Last time i informed him my uneducated guess about a PLL and he just ignored them. however, if one supply him enough, accurate information he will immediately respond with test versions for you without any embellishment.

 

There is 1 device but its not anything about smbus since its PCI Memory Device aka Intel Turbo Cache chip driver thats missing and im not going to install it anyway due 4gb of ram in this laptop.

 

@rail3r85, have you tried clockgen?

Also can you download a program called SPDtool. then try to run it. I would like to see if it can read your SMbus.

Also you can try a program called speedfan, also see if it can read your SMbus.

 

Yes it can read my SMbus, and yeah i have tried clockgen.

And also speedfan can read my SMbus it gives next details
Intel 82801HB ICH8, SMbus base address $1C00, revision 00000003

 

So setfsb wont let you press "getfsb" without an error?

does clockgen show your PLL registers?

 

ClockGen shows only "Clocks" and "Options" menus and there is nothing more to see if it can detect my pll registers.

In clocks menu it only shows cpu frequency, no fsb etc..

And yeah, setfsb wont let me press "getfsb" without an error.

Edit : Ok, abo have confirmed it, its SMbus error, how ever he cannot support SMBus errors.

 

That means clockgen can't read your SMbus.

I though so.

If you have the PM965 chipset, you have the same SMbus controller as I do.
You can download the SMbus driver here:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/dow...08/infinst911autol.zip&DwnldId=18053&lang=eng

please install it.
Then try setfsb again.

If that doesn't work then follow these steps:
1. Run speedfan.
2. while speedfan is running, run setfsb and try to overclock.

 

Well the problem comes with infupdate that it only seems to update SATA driver nothing else.

And running speedfan before running setfsb does not work, have tried it before.

 

Just checking, did you try running speedfan while using setfsb (not just before)?


Also, maybe setfsb can access the SMbus but is doing something wrong with it. Really abo needs to fix this.

I guess your only real option is to modify the PLL to set your FSB to 266mhz.

 

Can someone help me try to overclock my LG p300? have T8100 not sure what other info I cn give you that would be of use... can open it up if I need to hunt for a chip, (couldn't find anything with ICS on it)

 

can you look for a chip that says "SLG" on it.

it will have a number after SLG, just like you have a number after ICS.

Or can you post some photos of your motherboard?

 

Well i did run speedfan first and left it running and then opened setfsb.

Also maybe if speedfan could have a ICS 9LPRS365BGLF in its list of pll's maybe i could oc via speedfan since it does have some primitive overclocking abilities.

But i will try modifying the pll soon as i get my hand on a equipment for it, some soldering iron and stuff but im not shure can my cpu handle the 3.4ghz oc.

 

it can if you do a volt mod, read the thread here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=390696

read the part for socket P CPUs.
when you've finished reading, find what your current default voltage is and let Naton (creator of thread) know. He will probably help you with further instructions on how to increase the voltage.


Also you may need to flash you ram to a different frequency to make it stable.

There are links to thaiphoon burner and SPDtool in my first post on page 1.
I prefer SPDtool.

 

Well i dont need flash my ram to different frequency since its allready running under the specs at DDR2-667Mhz 5-5-5-15 1.8v when its specced for DDR2-800 5-5-5-15 1.8v.

 

that's good, it's likely you will be fine with the FSLC pin mod.

 

Here are some pics of my Mobo




Can ya point it out or tell me the general area where I should be looking, also, for the DIY vidock is my only option for x2, expresscard slot and taking out wifi?

 

maybe on the other side of the motherboard?
also can you tell me what this is:

looks like it.

 

that's a card reader, i wish that hwtools sold pci male to female, so i could make it like a port ... meh

 

under th card reader, zoom in to what I circled. It's a black chip I can see poking out from under the card reader.

 

can't see anything written on that, seems blank

 

So can you see the other side of your motherboard somehow?

 

I don't think so :/ if I go through the different clock generators, RTM876-660 brings up some info if I click get fsb, but not sure if it is the right one...

 

can you try overclocking with RTM876-660?

I'll take a better look at your pics anyway, since I'm in a lecture now and my battery is low I can't really get the right brightness to see it too good.

In a couple hours I'll let you know if I see anything.

 

I can try, not exactly sure when, a little busy tomorrow till at least night time.

 

I tried pinmod (cpu socket) to get 266, it didnt boot up so im not shure should i proceed with modifying the pll.