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    PLL Pinmod Overclocking Methods and Examples

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by moral hazard, Jun 24, 2009.

  1. Raptile

    Raptile Notebook Enthusiast

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    Gpu i dont tested in another laptom.
    I Use TME Methot to unlock overlock fsb in fsbset programm.
    This methot its okay. I ground pin 4 with 10/20Kohm resistor.Worked okay but when i overlocked the gpu i had some problems. I think setfsb overlocked fsb and pci-e bus frequency too.
     
  2. boombyte

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    But why need cute trace from pin4 to resistor? Or it's not necessary?
    Can someone told me where is pin4? (please see previous posts)
    Need calculate from circle-mark right?
     
  3. BoredUltimatum

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    I would find the schematic for your motherboard or the chip. If you look at the third page of my motherboard's schematic (different PLL from yours) you'll see the pins are actually out of order. You definitely want to make sure you have the right pin before you start jumping or you will probably short it out.
     
  4. boombyte

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    It's only that I found.
    TA7.png

    On motherboard PLL is RTM875T-606. (rectangle 64-pin; you can find photos in this theme in 134-135 page or I can post photo again)
     
  5. BoredUltimatum

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    That block diagram has an ICS in the clock gen. Are you sure it's the right one? Either way, I think the PLLs are the same regardless of motherboard. My motherboard's schematic enumerated the pins which is why I brought it up. At any rate, check here http://forum.notebookreview.com/hardware-components-aftermarket-upgrades/429717-rtm875t-606-info-gathering-ocing.html
     
  6. boombyte

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    ICS9LPRS365. but yes, m/board have RTM875 PLL--I already checked it.
    I'll try inspect your link and return back if have some '?'.
     
  7. boombyte

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    thats what I have---
    1. Check Byte 09h bit 6

    If bit 6 = 1 , You'll need to do a hardware Mod to get SetFSB to work.
    If bit 6 = 0 , You can Skip the Hardware Mod.


    1set.jpg
    Byte 09H bit 6 =1. Need hardware mod.

    2. Check Byte 07h

    If Byte07h = 1E, you have the RTM875t-606
    If Byte07h = <>1E, you DON'T have the RTM875t-606( And your reading the wronge Thread!)

    --Byte 07h is not 1E. But motherboard has RTM875.

    3. Click 00h set bit 2 to 1->Click Update->Click Apply
    00h bit 2 set to 1.>>System run normally.

    When I chose RTM875T-606 SetFsb give error but PLL table look like extend.
    rtm875.jpg

    When I chose ICS9LPRS365 no error but PLL table is short.
    ics365.jpg

    And again PLL is actually RTM875T-606.


    What I must do? Only short Pin4 to ground with 10kOhm resistor and no need cut trace?
     
  8. BoredUltimatum

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    I have no idea. I was just dredging up info, I don't have experience in this stuff. Hopefully someone else can shed some light for you.
     
  9. boombyte

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    ok. thanks anyway.

    someone know what need do? I'll really grateful.
     
  10. ferchoman123

    ferchoman123 Newbie

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    where can I get setPLL, because i need to downclock the render core...
     
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  11. boombyte

    boombyte Notebook Enthusiast

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    may be google can help.
    or write your email--I'll send it. (but I don't know how exactly need use this prog).
     
  12. PringlessS

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    I could need this little program but it seems impossible to get...
     
  13. boombyte

    boombyte Notebook Enthusiast

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    already sent.
    you need modify file extension from ex_ to exe (google not accept email with exe's, zip, rar etc.


    can anyone help with my main question?
     
  14. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That should work.
     
  15. boombyte

    boombyte Notebook Enthusiast

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    but need to cut trace or not? it's important?
     
  16. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Shouldn't need to cut it.

    If bit 6 of byte 9 doesn't change then try a lower value for your resistor.
     
  17. Avan

    Avan Newbie

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    After spending some time, i could not find it anywhere, would you please send it to me as well? (if that is ok with everyone)

    Thanks.
     
  18. boombyte

    boombyte Notebook Enthusiast

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    no problem. send me pm email.
    (I'll upload prog on file hosting later--for another users. Strange, why setpll is lost?..)

    also--anybody know something about ICS9LPRS515?
     
  19. selkie707

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    can you send that to me...

    or can anyone send setpll to me


    email:[email protected]
     
  20. boombyte

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    bad.
    I tried circuited pin4>5.6kOhm>GND and pin4>56Ohm>GND, pin4>18Ohm>gnd and no results. Laptop loaded ok but setFSB button locked (not active). No cut of trace.
    Then I get back and read again page1 of this thread--byte 02h bit 2 is 1 and when I reset it to 0>>system freeze with no displaying.
    As I understand TME-unlock is impossible with my laptop?

    I forget--my laptop has ICS9LPRS365 PLL--but another same laptop has RTM875.
    ICS9LPRS365.jpg
     
  21. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well the setfsb button will not be active unless you download the freeware version (older version).
    Or unless you pay abo to give you the activation key for the latest version.

    Even with TME enabled, you should still be able to press setfsb, it should just give you no result without the TME mod.

    Did you check bit 6 of byte 9, did that bit change when you had the resistor in place?
     
  22. lakondas

    lakondas Notebook Consultant

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    The link is broken... Can i ask somebody to give me the program?
    Gdrive folder
     
  23. lakondas

    lakondas Notebook Consultant

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    bump for this
     
  24. boombyte

    boombyte Notebook Enthusiast

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    moral hazard
    big thanks.
    it works. as I remember bit 6 or 09h byte is still 1 but fsb can be changed. maybe I'll wait heatsink parts and then do full test but first looks--system rebooted with bsod, no displaying if fsb more than ~240MHz. if fsb set at once to 266 then color artifacts shows and system freeze.
    in first case it may need change RAM timing or need cpu Vcore up. in 2nd case it may need X3100 downclock.
    for 2nd case--how to do downclock with setPLL? I tried it with intel 4500GMA (C:\...\setPLL.bat>setIGP [400] ----she find clocks [266] [320] [400] [533] (actual) before) and no results--core clock from AIDA still 533MHz.
    or impossible use downclock for X3100 and OC for cpu?
     
  25. boombyte

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    my English so bad or nobody can help?
    also T9600 does not work with my 965GM.
     
  26. boombyte

    boombyte Notebook Enthusiast

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    little update.
    Video driver stop responded and was refurbished.--this message give to me win7 after OC CPU.
    not so long test but if FSB more than 240 video give some error.
    what need do? AIDA show that GPU core is 500MHz every time. (with OC and w\out OC)
     
  27. scourge

    scourge Newbie

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    LINK TO SETPLL 1.0f --> Dev-Host - SetPLL_1-0f_backup.zip - The Ultimate Free File Hosting / File Sharing Service <--

    (working on my m11xr2 with original oem win7x64, stable at around 183 or 185 after thaiphoon 7-7-7-20 ram spd edit mod with 166mhz oc in bios)

    Long-time lurker here who has benefited from the wonderful work of unclewebb, moral hazard, nando4, davygt, and anyone else who has ever worked on a 3rd-party application to get us the most from our hardware, as well as all those who banged their heads against the same wall before me: mardon, deadboy, and all you old school regulars who were giving advice to newbies before i had an m11xr2 ... HALO 4 JUST GOT HERE, GOTTA RUN GUYS!

    THANKS :)
     
  28. sangemaru

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    Thank you loads man, it's down everywhere else.
     
  29. Snakefreak

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    You mean ICS9LPRS515 or ICS9LPR515?
    I have a Fujitsu Siemens s6410 with ICS9LPR515BKLF TME locked.
    Had to cut a trace and soldered pin 11 (PCI2/TME) to ground. Laptop is booting. without any error but TME_READBACK tell me: Register 9 bit6 =1
    before the mod i cant change it now i can write 0
    but OC fails without error--> fsb doesnt change. :-(
    [​IMG]
    have also tried 10kohm rsistor between pin 11 and GND

    fails also.
    but i had a issuse i disconected gnd solder point bootet the system and i was able to oc. but only one time on the secound and third and... boot it fails.

    wired thing.

    anyone can help?
     
  30. crampedson

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    Back in 2011 I posted a proof of concept that the PM965 chipset could be made to run a processor at 1066MHz fsb. Well I got it working in the end and here are my experiences for other M1530 devotees.

    The CPU I used was a ES T9500 in a Dell XPS M1530.
    The original configuration of the BSEL pins were L H L for a 200 fsb.
    The goal was to trick the PM965 into seeing L H L so it would boot while letting our PLL see L L L, thus enabling 266 fsb (FSLx mod).
    First, at the PLL (SLG8SP513V) I cut the trace connecting Pin 64 (BSEL1 / FS_B) so disconnecting that pin from the PM965 and the CPU BSEL1 pin. Pin 64 was then pulled low through a 10 kohm resistor.

    PLL.jpg

    This allowed booting at 266, but was not stable due to VIDs being too low for the OC. I could of done a VID4 to VSS pinmod here but opted to mod the voltage regulator directly.

    The voltage regulator (ISL6262) was modded for a ~15% overvolt by connecting a 4 ohm resistor between Pin 14 (VSEN) and Pin 15 (RTN). This is not the most ideal mod as the resistor sinks 250-300ma, about 0.3w, but it does work. I'm open to suggestions of cleaner mods that are less "brute force" elsewhere on the regulator.

    VREG.jpg

    Finally, the RAM needed to be patched by SPDTool to only support 266MHz operation instead of 333MHz. At a 266 fsb and a 3:4 FSB : DRAM ratio, the RAM then operates at a comfortable 354Mhz.

    Using Prime95 and ThrottleStop, I can hit 3192MHz. I can extend this up to 3458MHz and 3724MHz with IDA but the limited cooling can't handle much higher and the laptop eventually goes into thermal shutdown at those speeds if the CPU is put under load. However, the great thing about this mod is that I can still access the "stock" speeds by setting a lower multiplier and turning down the VID to 1.0000v (Actual 1.1500v).

    For the record, I could not softclock the SLG8SP513V higher by adjusting N and M-divider values, even after a TME unlock. I suspect that it resets the SATA clocks after a fsb change as it causes the HDD to lock up (and thus why in SetFSB, that PLL can only be adjusted from 166 > 200 > 266 etc.)
     
  31. filip210189

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    So, basically I have the same SetFSB parameters as the poster above and use the last available full version of SetFSB (before "impolite" incident) and still am unable to overclocl since the parameters come back to their default when I press Set FSB. Do I really need to ground pin 4 and why is it showing 0 in the 6th bit if it doesn't allow it without grounding?
     
  32. diablo0815

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    Hi!

    I'm coming from german Thinkpad forum and created this thread linked in the first post.

    I also overclocked a Thinkpad X61 with T8300 (200 --> 266Mhz FSB). This wasn't stable with orginal Voltage. So I soldered a 22k resistor between FB Pin of ADP3207 and ground. Now the CPU works stable @3,46Ghz (dual IDA). The highest temperature I've seen was 96°C :D At 3,2Ghz it keeps much cooler (<90°C).

    Gruß, David
     
  33. Ultra-Insane

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    Congrats but <90C is pushing it a bit I would think. Was that a stress test or normal usage?
     
  34. CrimsonEclipse

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    Ok, in the next few weeks, I'm going to try this with a Vostro 1500 with a T9500.
    Note that this is an end-of-life mod and there are no consequences for destruction.
    It will be fitted with heavy duty heat sinks on both the CPU and Video card so heat is not a primary consideration.

    I would like to confirm that I should disconnect AND ground either the 45 for 266 or the 32 for unlocking.
    LINKY
    and adjust using SetFSB

    Then use the Socket P pin voltage mod (can't find the link)

    It'll be 2-3 weeks until I can cut a hole and then remove the old heat pipes, cut a hole in the case and direct heat sink.
    (yes I know it'll stick out, I use it on a tilt stand anyway)

    Miss anything?

    CE
     
  35. cdoublejj

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    has there been any TME unlock for the dell M1330 that hasn't been documented on the main page?
     
  36. ragazzodule

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    Hi guys pls can some one help about finding my PLL chip overclock my laptop Toshiba satellite a200 1k8 ,
    I had opened and searched the PLL chip but no luck :confused: ,
    I had downloaded Set FSB_2_3_173_133 and run it and showed me these numbers View attachment m . MHz.bmp , but im little bit a noob and do not know to read and understand the code so can anyone pls help :(
     
  37. BoredUltimatum

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    You want to make sure you know what you're doing before changing the frequency. That being said, check both sides of the motherboard if you haven't. My particular laptop's motherboard has the PLL underneath the board (between the motherboard and keyboard). Checking mine would require disconnecting a lot of stuff so you might try looking online for pictures of the motherboard.
     
  38. effesse72

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    Good job done Moral but...

    I try to set my SLG8SP556V with SetSFB diagnose tab and register 14 (0E) and now my Lenovo G550 (GL40 chipset) notebook wont start anymore :(

    I suppose I have to desold the Silego and change with a pin-to-pin compatible one.

    Damn Silego... neither I'm able to reprogram the chip with 2-wire serial TTL-RS232 interface or J-tag?

    I wouldn't try before the FS_B (pin 2) pull-down to GND with 10K resistor because I was pretty sure the GL40 chipset maybe didn't support 266Mhz :(

    Sorry for my bad English, thank you in advance for any help, best regards !
     
  39. effesse72

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    sorry if I was out of thread :(
     
  40. effesse72

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    Hi to all forum's members and gurus,

    I try to set my SLG8SP556V with SetSFB diagnose tab and register 14 (0E) and now my Lenovo G550 (GL40 chipset) notebook wont start anymore :(

    I suppose I have to desold the Silego and change with a pin-to-pin compatible one.

    Damn Silego... neither I'm able to reprogram the chip with 2-wire serial TTL-RS232 interface or J-tag?

    I wouldn't try before the FS_B (pin 2) pull-down to GND with 10K resistor because I was pretty sure the GL40 chipset maybe didn't support 266Mhz :(

    Sorry for my bad English, thank you in advance for any help, best regards.
    .
     
  41. gergy

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    First off all, I'd like to thank moral hazard, nando4, kaltmond and other members that I cannot remember who have given their efforts on building this kind of marvellous thread. I have modded my clock generator with success by the help of this forum. :hi2::thumbsup:

    My notebook is a Toshiba Satellite L300-257 with 4 GB DDR2 Ram and T6400 C2D processor. Chipset is GM45. The clock generator is ICS 9LPRS365BGLF and I have not cut the trace from pin 4, instead of cutting trace, I have put a parallel 2.2 kohm resistor to the ground from a suitable solder point. TME is unlocked by this mod. I've attached some photos of my pll and the mod. I can go further to 220 MHz of fsb and after that point BSOD appears, I think it's the last point for my rams. I do not know exactly moddin the ram modules but I've ordered a new processor of T9550, when I receive it I'll try to overclock it too, may be then I need the info on this forum for modding the rams. Again thanks to all people who give their efforts and their experience and knowledge here. :thumbsup:
     

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    gergy Newbie

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    I'm writing this post from my notebook with T9550 (stock 2660 MHz) overclocked to 3020 MHz with IDA, fsb is 288 MHz. I've changed CAS values of rams to 6 and increased the VID with ThrottleStop to 1.25 V for stability. If I go further for fsb then BSOD appears suddenly. I think CPU needs more voltage. What do you advise for further overclocking?
     
  43. DiAvL0

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    I need your Help.

    I have a Clevo M570RU with intel T9300.
    My mems is 2*2 GB PC6400 400MHZ 5-5-5-18.
    In CPU-Z The multiplier variate between 12.5/13.0/13.5, i think that this is an error because the cpu only made 2.5GHz reals.
    MY problem is: I read about this topic and i tried change the CAS Latency of my mems. I changed the CAS Latency of my Slot 1 of 3,4,5 to 4,5,6. Then i reversed the operation to 3,4,5. But i dont saved the inicial state of the mem. After that, i can't make OCing with setFSB and the DRAM frequency change of 333MHZ to 332,5MHZ and the cpu make 2493MHZ with a FSB :DRAM 3:5.
    Then i made another mistake, i saved the initial state of slot 2 and i write in slot 1. The 2 slots, now, has the same Serial Number, Part Number, etc.

    My question is: I can revert this process without the initial state of the slot 1 that i not save in the beggining?
     
  44. nikutai

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    sorry for my english.i select ICS9LPRS355BGLF,but report"PLL byte error",can you export ICS9LPRS355.pll file in setfsb and send to me?my email is"[email protected]",thanks.
     
  45. Henrich

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    Hi can someone help me unlock my pll? i have ICS 9LPR5365BKL, i cant find datasheet so if anyone can do that it will be grateful.
     
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    Hey guys, I have 2 Lenovo x120e laying around the house, one of them has the e-350 and the other has the e-240. I was just wondering if anyone knows the PLL of the x120e, figured it was about time to try overclocking these laptops. I also have an Asus Zenbook, which i took apart today looking for the PLL chip, couldnt find one... am i missing something or do these ultrabooks not come with a PLL chip.... thanks in advance for any help.
     
  47. cdoublejj

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    an over clocked E350 would knock some teeth, those things are some what beastly as is so it should really unlock some performance if you OC it. all note books have a PLL that's crucial piece that sets or help sets the CPU speed.
     
  48. 1el1

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    Hi,
    I originally posted this in the 2530p owners lounge, but on second thought I think this is the right place so sorry for the double post.
    I have a 2530p with the SLG8SP553V as opposed to the common ICS9LPRS397DKLF. I understand that it needs a hardware mod before being able to overclock. Can someone please provide instructions for how to do this since I cannot find instructions anywhere.
    EDIT: There is this, here is the quote from that post:
    "What is possible is a FSLx PLL pinmod like discussed at How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only) . 300Mhz would boot up OK but requires wiring a LOGIC 1 to FS_C, FS_B and FS_A. I doubt 333Mhz would boot but you could try by wiring a LOGIC 1 to FS_C. Your dual-IDA L9400 would be overclocked to:

    300x8=2.40Ghz
    333x8=2.66Ghz"

    From what I can tell by looking at the datasheet here (the only place I found the datasheet), is that pins 2, 7, and 20 are FS_B FS_C and FS_A respectively. Not sure what to do with that knowledge. I also see that it is quite similar to the SLG8SP556 that the M11x has, as mentioned in the post I linked to. Need someone familiar with this to guide me further.
    I also would like to know what I can gain with this mod?
    Thanks
     
  49. jotm

    jotm Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey 1el1,

    I've just successfully finished a PLL mod for the Elitebook 8530, getting a T9900 to 3.8 GHz.

    If you have a 1066 MHz FSB processor, all you need to do is connect a 3.3V line to FS_C pin via a 7-15K resistor (in my case I used 2x 4.7k resistors) - it may be hard if you can't find a large enough soldering point.

    For example: a T9400 can go from 2.53 to 3.2 GHz, an SL9400 will go from 1.86 (@266 MHz FSB) to 2.33 GHz (@ 333 MHz FSB, 2.6GHz with Dual IDA).

    Now, to make it work fine without hardware voltmods (if it's even possible), you can edit the BIOS to disable EIST at boot - this will lock the CPU at 1.6 GHz (or whatever the minimum multiplier frequency is) at boot, which you can then set manually to whatever clocks you want in Windows using Throttlestop.

    If RAM is not stable, you can edit its speed using SPDTool 0.63 (CAREFULLY) - works great for DDR2. I managed to lower the timings to 6/5/5/15 running at 830 MHz on a pair of 4GB modules (another pair could not even work at 800 MHz), so it's a bit faster and has less latency.

    If SMBus is not detectable by SPDTool (typical HP db***ry :)), you can unlock it with HWInfo (default settings unlock SMBus at startup).

    The PM45 chipset won't work with 533 MHz RAM or any non standard clocks, so you're stuck with 667 MHz and 800 MHz, and lowering the timings down to 6/7/7/28 minimum I think (doesn't go lower for me).

    I'll reassemble my laptop and post a more detailed guide, but these are my comments on this for now...
     
  50. Hurricane3000

    Hurricane3000 Newbie

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    Hi all!

    I am new of this forum, and I hope to find some help to clear me some doubts I have about to get some further MHZ from my HP Compaq 6910P business laptop.
    I already successfully upgraded the CPU from T7300 (2 Ghz, 800 FSB, 4 Mb Cache) to T9300 (2.5 Ghz, 800 FSB, 6 MB Cache).
    A great step and Cpu temperatures are very good (25 in idle and 55 with 100% load of cpu) also thanks to the better power management of the T9300.

    But now I want get more from my laptop, and I'm thinking to increase the FSB from 800 to 1066 Mhz.
    But now begins my doubts:

    My laptop uses a chipset GM965, and I read in datasheet that this chipset only support 800 mhz FSB.
    Then I can't increase it to 1066 Mhz modding the PLL FS_ pins (because chipset does not support such FSB)?

    Another doubt is: Increasing FSB, Only CPU and memory will be affected and benefits by it, but may be that other devices will work incorrectly (i.e. Usb ports or hard disk)?

    Using the PLL pin modding, is not important the logic state of TME (loocked or unlooched)?

    I forget to say that my 6910P have a SLG8SP512T PLL, and then I can't use SetFSB.

    Thanks for help
     
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