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    SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Greg, Oct 29, 2009.

  1. ronan_zj

    ronan_zj Notebook Evangelist

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    i just installed the software, but when I check the disk driver, it still shows native driver, Microsoft, 6.1.7600.16385.
     
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    Hmmm, are you able to install the older IMSM?
     
  3. ronan_zj

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    I think so, hmm, lol.
     
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    Did you download it from the first link? The OCZ forum link was to an early beta version I think.
     
  5. Cape Consultant

    Cape Consultant SSD User

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    OK, latest test: Intel G2 160GB

    --------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
    --------------------------------------------------

    Sequential Read : 243.430 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 89.845 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 164.870 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 97.998 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB : 20.157 MB/s
    Random Write 4KB : 39.237 MB/s

    Test Size : 1000 MB
    Date : 2009/11/25 3:14:06
    ::Comment::
     
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    Cape, you should try the newest Intel Rapid Storage Technology drivers... see back a page.
     
  7. Cape Consultant

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    I will check that out. But not if I have to reformat. Are my results not good?
     
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    Cape Consultant SSD User

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    The 9.5.0.1037 version right?

    If your motherboard doesn't support them, they won't install.
     
  11. ronan_zj

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    I just uninstall the intel rapid, maybe just stay with native windows driver
     
  12. Cape Consultant

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    Yes, that is the version. Software did not install and drivers did not upgrade, said I had latest. Darn, how much speed am I missing out on ???
     
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    Yes, that is the version I tried to install.
     
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    Sorry Cape,

    Edited my last post. Please re-read.
     
  16. Cape Consultant

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    No worries, I am liking my drive. The great thing is, it is seemles. I forget that i am even using an SSD. It is fast, but not that fast so far at what I do. But it is smooth, and also a cloned drive, which is never as good as fresh, I know. So, for now, I can really see where this will get very very popular. Less moving parts, YES!
     
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    Cool! :cool:

    ronan_zj, can I ask why?
     
  18. ronan_zj

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    I am just too lazy to install and unstall , restart the computer. hah
     
  19. Jackboot

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    I just installed the new "Intel Rapid Storage Technology" drivers and am surprised at the difference on my old JMF612B-based drive:

    Before -> After
    I've never seen this drive read over 140MB/s, so the difference is significant...although I'm not sure what to make of the slower sequential writes (not too important to me though)
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    And although 4KB random writes this low are laughable in an absolute sense, the comparitive boost is actually more significant in real-world use than going from an Intel G1 to an Intel G2:
    Before
    [​IMG]

    After
    [​IMG]

    This drive is still a real POS, but the new JMicron firmware combined with the new Intel driver is showing the best performance yet and the drive is actually quite quick compared to a 5400rpm notebook drive.

    For reference, here is the 4KB random write before the JMicron firmware update and using the older Intel driver:

    [​IMG]
     
  20. jholty

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    Here is mine, is it good?

    [​IMG]
     
  21. ettornio

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    I'm in the market for an SSD, but I need some advice. I'm looking for crazy fast performance, and I'm leaning towards an Intel SSD 160GB G2 34nm Postville drive (used for Boot Drive/Applications). Is this the best choice at the moment? Looking at Anandtech's SSD Improv article ( http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3667), it looks to be the best performer overall. It also supports TRIM, which I don't fully understand as of yet but what I do know is it increases the lifespan of a solid state drive (right?). This drive seems to only be bested by the 50nm Intel X-25E (Extreme) SLC SSD. Would it be stupid to go with the older X-25E?

    I guess what I want is some reassurance that the price for the 160GB Intel SSD is going to be worth it. So, will it be worth it?
     
  22. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I've got a 160GB Generation2 Intel X25-M drive - its brilliant :)
    TRIM cleans up a data mess left on the drive.

    The E series ist very "small".
     
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    benchmarks are great to test if a drive works as it should, and if, as it should, is good.

    that firmware puts my g1 to shame :)
     
  25. jholty

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    yes sir, applied them this morning after reading about them.
     
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    Oh! Did you notice a difference before/after?

    and jholty, 'sir' is not required - you're making me feel old!
     
  27. davepermen

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    you don't happen to have a link for this driver on the intel page itself? nothing against russians, i like them, but i never trust drivers not from the os maker, or the hw maker itself..
     
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    can't say i noticed a "seat of the pants" difference after appling the driver, and unfortunately i did not run the test prior to installing it. sorry.

    also, i apologize, did not want to make you feel old. these days i am feeling a little old myself (30).
     
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    Oh yeah, no apology necessary! (But I'm still old :) )

    I'm very tuned to how my systems run and my 'seat of the pants' antennae are maybe more sensitive than others.

    But with those numbers you've posted, it would be hard to see an improvement unless those numbers doubled!

    BTW, I forgot (sorry), what SSD are you running? And does it have the TRIM enabled firmware?
     
  31. davepermen

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    he has an ocz vertex ex 60gb ssd, as written in his sig :)
     
  32. max420

    max420 Notebook Consultant

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    here ya go man, its not an intel link, but isn't biostar am oem?

    http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/t-series/driver.php?S_ID=369

    scroll down to:


    [​IMG]
     
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    hahahahah, sorry, when I'm in edit mode here, I can't see the sigs. :)

    Thanks davepermen!
     
  34. davepermen

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    don't know, never had anything biostar :)

    but if they're from the 02-11th, then it's actually not that new. why isn't it available everywhere where it should? hm..
     
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    intel may have pulled them to re-do, in my search, i did't come across some users who had random drive failures with them, but i didn't see a lot, that's just my personal theory. im d/l ing atm, gonna try 'em out. looks like they have an 11MB version, i think thats the full one, i think the smaller one are just driver files.
     
  36. davepermen

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    intel is having some funky pulling party lately.. pushing stuff out just to pull it again :)

    well, it all works perfect here, so i just wait till they're official now :)
     
  37. DetlevCM

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    DetlevCM,

    The first link is the ones I was running (the 8.9XXX version) of the Intel Matrix Storage Manager (IMSM).

    The second link is to very old, early version of it - maybe not for notebooks.

    The new ones are called Intel Rapid Storage Technology drivers and are version 9.5.0.1037 and they are installed and running on my Win 7 x64 VAIO notebook and my Vista x64 desktop systems. Oh, and running beautifully. :)
     
  39. DetlevCM

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    Ah, OK :)

    Well, I'll wait until I hear from Intel and see then. Thanks for the info :)
     
  40. max420

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    or you could try teh copy i linked to a few posts back, at the Biostar OEM website. I installed them, and they're working fine.

    [​IMG]
     
  41. tilleroftheearth

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    Just wanted to mention to everyone that these new Intel Rapid Storage drivers, while awesome (so far!), load a notification icon every time you reboot.

    To disable, just go to the preferences tab (see max420's screen shot above) and uncheck the appropriate box. One less thing running is always good!
     
  42. ronan_zj

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    STILL THE SAME PROBLEM
    My driver didnt get upgraded to intel driver
     

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    No, just looking in the wrong place.

    Check the driver version of your Intel AHCI Controller.
     
  44. Kermee

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    FYI- Newegg doing the nice $214.99 USD + F/S again this Friday for the Intel X25-M G2 80GB. 'Cept this time, there's 10% Bing CB making it $193.50 USD after Cashback...

    Cheers,
    Kermee
     
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    ok.. did it.. :) installed the drivers.

    well, on this single mtron (100mb/s read write, degenerated by over one year use in a raid0) i got up from a 4.4 to 5.9 on win7 winsat :)

    now on to the intel ssd :) (btw, if i fully format the mtron, it goes by itself from 4.4 to 5.9, tested that on the second mtron i have.. so i will clean this one later, too)

    performance difference so far? yep, i think the mtron boots a bit faster now.
     
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    in 2011, i won't care anymore about ssds. all i want is memristors. processors with integrated memristor storage. anything else will be so utterly uncool and unfast and unhip and such, you couldn't understand using anything else

    :)

    i'd love to see faster progression there, really.. they have no write issues => no wearleveling needed and all that. just fast, everything :)
     
  48. davepermen

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    not really much difference on the intel drive here. it changed the balance of the results. some went up, some down.. and as it was perfectly snappy before, it's hard to find out if it's even more snappy now :)
     
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    davepermen, the G1, correct?

    You made me re-run WEI and my Scorpio stayed the same (5.8), but I certainly can feel the difference - the 'snap' factor is impressive.
     
  50. davepermen

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    yes the g1. well, as said. the 'snap factor' is already perfect on the intel (and the reason i love it above all other ssds, like f.e. samsungs which fail at it), so .. can't really improve there much. in raw speed, it stayed the same, too, so there are no real gains.

    then again, as always, who cares? :) so far, no losses.
     
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