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    SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Greg, Oct 29, 2009.

  1. Pochi

    Pochi Notebook Consultant

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    Still too expensive, gonna buy one when they drop in price.


    On a side note, for that I am saving by getting a lower memory HDD so that I can have enough money to save on SSD.
     
  2. flatsix911

    flatsix911 Notebook Evangelist

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    You might consider just loading your OS and Apps on a small SSD and keep all of your data on a HDD. :)

     
  3. Pochi

    Pochi Notebook Consultant

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    True that, but when building a Laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad comes to mind) even lowest storage SSD is more expensive than a 500GB HDD.

    Best thing to do now is getting a standard HDD with lowest storage when customizing and when it malfunction, swap it for a nice SSD, which will be cheaper by then (2-3 years period from buying a computer). :D
     
  4. HTWingNut

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    When it malfunctions? Very few HDD's malfunction. I have drives 5 or more years old. And hard drives aren't very expensive, so not sure why you'd get the smallest you can find unless that's all you need. Even so, a 60GB SSD is usually < $100, while more expensive than a hard drive, it's still quite affordable.
     
  5. jahmika

    jahmika Newbie

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    Thanks guys

    Reading the ssd forums, I thought Id settle my choice on the Crucial C300. But the Samsung has exellent reputation also (as the intels)

    I'm looking for a 256 go drive, for OS (W7) install, with adobe cs5 master, and targeted for web developpement and photo (lightroom, using RAW format with thousands of files over 20mb each)

    Between the C300, the samsung and the intel (not sure if intel has 200go+ drives), is there one that pops out, based on my requirements ?
     
  6. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Don`t know if this is interesting at all but a hardware store in my country have listed the Intel 320 SSDs aka G3. But today they removed them from the list, but luckily sweclockers managed to PrtSc :)
    They are actually cheaper than G2 drives...

    Google Oversetter
     
  7. jahmika

    jahmika Newbie

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    Interesting enough for me to postpone my buy !
     
  8. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    And enough for me to confirm my suspicion that the 510 series is a stepping stone to seriously affordable SSD's (along with real/solid performance). :)
     
  9. Tomy B.

    Tomy B. Notebook Evangelist

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    splinterpc Notebook Geek

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    Tomy B. Notebook Evangelist

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    He he he! Who knows...

    And now something good coming from OCZ. So they need 100 requests to release FW update for OCZ Vertex (Indilinx controler) to became OCZ Vertex Turbo.
     
  12. newkleer

    newkleer Notebook Guru

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    something good...kinda, its just an ego/marketing thing, requiring 100 people to say they want it, lame. just release it.
     
  13. ronan_zj

    ronan_zj Notebook Evangelist

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    100 ppl beg for it...
     
  14. Tomy B.

    Tomy B. Notebook Evangelist

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    ONFI Announces Publication of the 3.0 Standard, Pushes Data Transfer Speeds to 400 MB/sec

     
  15. HTWingNut

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    chimpanzee Notebook Virtuoso

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    it greatly increase the per channel bandwidth thus much more head room for further push the speed without going to say 16/20 channels in order to double the performance.

    Only SF 3 is using it though as far as I know.
     
  17. splinterpc

    splinterpc Notebook Geek

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    Good info, but how much it will cost? Vertex 3 is a beast in every mean :rolleyes:
     
  18. Tomy B.

    Tomy B. Notebook Evangelist

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    It's good! It's 400 MB/s per chip or channel. If I get it wright.
     
  19. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Thanks for the link.

    But bah, nothing interesting. All sequential brew ha ha. G3 should be awesome, although Vertex 3 also looks good. Come the end of this year I should have a nice assortment to choose from.
     
  21. James832001

    James832001 Notebook Consultant

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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Had they included better random read/write then there would be no point in buying G3 SSD. :p Intel wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot. Basically 510 will be high end SSD while G3 will be mainstream.
     
  23. James832001

    James832001 Notebook Consultant

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    Yup, another good and valid point :p. It was just wishful thinking on my part.
     
  24. ccarollo

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    Intel's real problem is that the Vertex 3 doesn't appear to have any of the (hardware) downsides the 510 does, and it's going to be cheaper. I had a 510 ordered, but for upwards of $500 I didn't think I'd be happy with something that has such a performance hole, even if I wouldn't likely run into it in real-world situations. It'd be bugging me -- every time anything hitched, I'd be wondering if it was due to the relatively poor random access performance.

    So now I'm waiting on the Vertex 3 and trying to decide if the great across-the-board performance is worth purchasing from OCZ.
     
  25. HTWingNut

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    I just think Intel wanted to cater to those that wanted to take advantage of the SATA III speeds. Partially for marketing too. Probably didn't want to look bad because they didn't use the full potential of the new SATA III.

    G3 seems like a more well rounded product though.
     
  26. splinterpc

    splinterpc Notebook Geek

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    IMHO this 510 is mainly an upgrade for systems with sata III; sequential read are the best improvement, but i think/hope the big bang will come with G3...intel don't dream on your glories, crush the market again
     
  27. Judicator

    Judicator Judged and found wanting.

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    That might be difficult. From what I've heard, a lot of the delays with the G3s were controller issues, so they might be having some difficulty matching or exceeding current offerings.
     
  28. Abula

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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Given OCZ's track record, I'd pony up a bit more for the new Intel 510 series..

    Are we certain the G3 are delayed? :(
     
  30. Judicator

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    Well, considering that they were initially supposed to be released last fall... and then February... and we're still waiting... but no, I don't know of any actual further delays beyond the current ones at present.
     
  31. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Vertex 3 is a little tempting i must admit...
     
  32. Phil

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    I have nothing but good experiences with two OCZ SSDs. And their support forums are very good.
     
  33. Cloudfire

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    How do OCZ deal with the TRIM feature that Intel tools have?
     
  34. bigspin

    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    Intel's new 510 series 4k writes/reads are not that impressive. I want to buy one, but going to wait till they deliver first stable FW update. Just to make sure they are not going to screw it with new chipset(Marvell) updates.
     
  35. bigspin

    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    x2...My friend Vtx2 just died(3 weeks of 24/7 use)

    They have pretty hit & miss track record....so not recommend unless you have a better deal.
     
  36. HTWingNut

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    My OCZ Vertex 2 has been great, despite the fact that it died the first six weeks after I got it. OCZ replaced it promptly. I'm strongly considering the Vertex 3 after everything shakes out with all the new SSD's coming out.
     
  37. NoSpinZone

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    March 28th release date.
     
  38. Seanwhat

    Seanwhat Notebook Evangelist

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    Any source?
     
  39. NoSpinZone

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    An Intel rep.
     
  40. KillerBunny

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    My thoughts also. The sequential read/write is improved a lot on the 510 series, but the 4k writes/reads are pretty bad supposedly. The vertex 3 offers 60000IOps compared to like 15-20k with the 510?(I'm probably wrong on this #). Plus the vertex 3 kills it in sequential read/write too by a bunch.

    I'm not an OCZ fanboy by any means, and I think the whole 25nm fiasco was pathetic on OCZ's part. But, it is the best product in both large file transfer and everyday use, and if I have to put up with a badly reputed company, I might just go with them.

    With Intel, you are definitely paying a premium for a product that, while reliable, does not exactly perform like the competition.
     
  41. Abula

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    I thought i read was delayed till mid april, but was not from Intel rep. I hope to see it march 28, although still thinking about C400 n Vertex3.
     
  42. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Awesome :cool:
     
  43. NoSpinZone

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    Abula, that date is from a reliable source and is accurate as of yesterday.

    Now something could hit the fan next week and the release date does get pushed out, but for now it's firm.

    I certainly hope so because I just put in my order for a NP5170 with instructions to wait for the 320 Series SSD.
     
  44. splinterpc

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    Anyways, both vertex3,510 and g3 SSD will still cost an eye... few people like us :D would burn 300 or more chips for this new generation.

    the best bargain for the price is current generation IMO
     
  45. James832001

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    posts like this is making me regret purchasing the 510!!! :mad: lol


    I know the 510 displays low random 4k writes. Should I just delay my laptop so I can switch out the 510 for the G3 when that comes out since the G3 is all around good SSD?
     
  46. KillerBunny

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    I didn't mean to make you feel bad about the 510 :(.

    It really depends what you plan on doing with your computer. If you plan a lot of large sequential write/read like if you edit photos or videos, then the 510 is perfect for you because it was great sequential stats.

    If you are more a casual user like web browsing, movie watching, etc. the random 4k writes might be a little more important.

    Honestly though, since any SSD is a HUGE jump from a HDD, it won't be that much of a difference. Yes the vertex 3 might be a little faster, but loosing a min out of your day really isn't that much of a big deal.

    On the plus side, you get intel's legendary reliability with the 510. If you really feel that speed AND reliability are important, wait for the 320 series (G3). If you really want just raw performance, that may or may not degrade or break down, then vertex 3. Otherwise, your 510 ssd should suit you just fine. :cool:
     
  47. chimpanzee

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    That remains to be seen. It is very likely it is the case but we shall see.
     
  48. Abula

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    Seems the C400 are starting to show up also, Link,

    interestingly no 256gb version there, but interpolating and averaging prices with the other 2, should be around $475.
     
  49. James832001

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    BOLDED: That's exactly what I'm going to be doing and gaming.

    Oh ya, I dont feel bad. I'm just glad you guys are posting all this information about the SSDs. This is where I come to read and learn about my laptop. :)
     
  50. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Kinda close to today's pricing of SF drives. No other sites have C400?
     
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