SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

Placed my order for the 240GB Vertex 3 via Amazon.com on 3/10, and I just got an email that they now have a delivery estimate of 4/4-5/2. Which is a pretty big window, but at least it's an actual window, which is more than they had before.

I'm still probably going to be F5ing NewEgg in the hopes of catching it in-stock there.

 

Does anyone know why they review the 240 gb version in most articles ? Any difference in benchmarks ?

 

Very good Vertex 3 review, lots of real world benchmarks. Thanks to Cloudfire for spotting it.
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1121/pg1/ocz-vertex-3-240gb-ssd-review-introduction.html

Intel 510 review by the same site.
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews.php?reviewid=1130

As far as I know the larger versions have more internal bandwith, this leads to better copy performance.

 

^Thanks for the link, Phil.


It's becoming difficult to choose the new versions of ssd. This will be my first one as well.


After many reviews I'm thinking of vertex 240gb(since I want one with over 200gb) the speed is amazing especially the 4k read/write but the reliability of the Intel is great and all but there is still the unknown factor with the new controllers and being more expensive.

I've got around 2 weeks to decide one and still can't think of what to go for.

Wish I had more time to see which one will be better at the end.

 

Well, in the next couple of weeks I'm going to have the opportunity to see what the Intel 510 can do in a real production environment.

As far as the Vertex goes... it won't get installed in any of my systems - even for a joke.

 

Ok New 320 series 25nm Intel SSD's coming march 28th. Confirmed by techpowerup.com

But Read/Write 250MB/170MB and Up to 39,500 IOPS random 4 KB reads, and up to 23,000 IOPS random 4 KB writes.....

Price

40 GB (US $109), 80 GB ($189), 120 GB ($239), 160 GB ($329), 300 GB ($569), and 600 GB ($1,119).

 

Could anyone guess how that would sum up in euros ? (based on intel $/€ conversion policy)

 

Add VAT% + Living in Europe + SSD US Price = € Total

 

Tiller - please post the results here or pm me with them. i assume you are using the 510 for photoediting?

 

I'll be sure to post the results here (good or bad).

Actually, I'm hoping to be able to compare directly to the G3 too.

Can't wait.

 

pm you? NO! you egoist!

to tiller: yeah, both together, shared in here. it would be awesome. thanks in advantage.

 

Please PM the results to ME only, at my top secret email address. I will then sell it to all interested parties for a very nominal amount.

 

What is the opinion on the Extreme Series X256 256GB SATA 3Gb/s 2.5" Corsair drive? I found some where where I can get these drives for $255/ea and wanted to know how they would compare to the Intel X25-M Drives I'm currently using. I didn't feel like starting a new thread, but I figured the experts hang out in this one. Thanks guys.

 

if you do that, i won't talk with you again, ever! bad boy!
BAD BOY!!

 

X256 is same as 1st generation Vertex, use Indilinx Barefoot controller.

 

Well the 510 uses the same controller as the c400 right? So doesn't it have potential to have similar 4k's as the c400 with a fw update?

 

What exacty does that mean? No TRIM? I'm not to educated in the SSD arena.

 

For OS, stay with Intel!
For storage, too expensive!

It is faster then HDD and 255$ is dirt cheap, but I would not buy it.

 

Maybe same silicon, but the firmware essentially makes it an 'Intel' controller.

Don't get hanged up on the 4K R r/w's unless you're getting this for a server - a single user (even a power user) can't get much past what this drive theoretically offers (in 4K R r/w's) - this may be the SSD I've been waiting for for almost 2yrs!

 

I agree, people are too focused on 4K performance. The Hardwareheaven review shows that real world performance of the Intel 510 is very good, that's all that counts.

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My review of the Samsung 470 vs. Corsair Nova vs. OCZ Vertex 2 is online:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6071&review=ssd+shootout

Seagate XT and Scorpio Black are also included.

 

Indilinx Barefoot should have TRIM, as long as Crucial released the proper firmware updates. Mostly, Indilinx controllers just mean lower performance compared to more "modern" SSDs. It's not a really bad drive overall, just dated, and there was a batch with bad firmware that would brick it.

 

My Vertex 1 30 GB has the Indilinx controller, still going strong after almost a year.

 

c400

couple of benchmark results on the micron blog

review from THE SSD REVIEW.com

beats the intel 510 by like 18000 points in PCMark Vantage. i want.

 

My Nova 128GB is a smoking hot drive. By that I mean fast. Always had TRIM. So what drive should I get that is better?

 

.. had a c400 in my cart. sold out while i was filling out order info, and now it just shows up as out of stock.. they have no ETA of getting more lol

 

What website had it?

 

superbiiz.com

still have the 256gb and 512gb in stock

response they gave to my email:

they told me to just keep checking back.. wish newegg would get them.. hopefully they will soon. it'll hopefully be a bit cheaper

 

As long as you have a SATA II interface there aren't much faster SSDs available. The review in my signature shows how the Nova keeps up with Samsung 470 and Vertex 2. It keeps up very well.

When you get a notebook with SATA III interface, Crucial C400 or OCZ Vertex 3 or Intel G3 is probably the fastest. They will significantly outperform the Nova.

 

G3's are only Sata2.. 510's are Sata3

 

After reading all the reviews on the new generation drives (Anand, Techreport, Hardwareheaven, Storagereview) it looks like the new Sandforce drives are the performance winners. Intel 510 comes very close in single tasks but looses in multi tasking. Crucial C400 doesn't look like it's going to deliver.

The weak point of the Vertex 3 seems to be the high power consumption. I would like to see that confirmed by other websites and user reports.

I'm very curious to see whether the new Sandforce controllers throttle down sequential write speeds like the first generation does.

 

It doesn't look that bad compered to other drives:

 

1.82 watt idle is very high, it's more than many traditional hard drives do...

 

right, but if it's the ONLY downside, congrats to sandforce company they seems the winner for now.
The question is about write throttling, is it still present ?

 

Totally agree that idle is too much!
And I think that all other values should be lower.

 

Seems crucial M4 is looking really good.
Crucial M4 256GB SATA 3 SSD Review ? Unexpected Performance in a Small Package | The SSD Review

 

There it looks good, it doesn't at Techreport.com

 

Thanks. Just did.


I was hoping for a alternative to vertex 3...seems none.

 

Vertex 3 seems king. Power consumption seems a bit high.

Maybe a firmware update on the C400 can bring it up to Intel 510 levels.

The new Corsair Force should be an interesting product.

 

Yea, that seems to be the only negative at the moment.

Intel seems to expect us to pay higher prices for something that does not have similar performance and a new controller.

Wish I had more time to see which would be the best one.

 

What about SATA 2? Who's the king? Does the G3 fair any better? How bout the sandforce controlled ssds, is it worth the reliability issues when compared to the x25-m on real world performance?

 

On SATA II Intel G2, Samsung 470, Sandforce, Corsair Nova, C300 all perform on similar levels. Check the review in my sig.

 

Interesting conclusion by Tomshardware in the Intel 510 review.

Conclusion : Intel SSD 510-Series 250 GB Review: Adopting 6 Gb/s SATA

 

Phil, with a solely synthetic benchmark based 'review' I might even come to the same conclusion as Tom's did.

However, considering that the drives were SE'ed between each test (they didn't do this for the Intel's sake, I'm sure) and the schizophrenic nature of SF based drives, their conclusion would be 100% reversed if based on actually using the drives instead of SE and benching them.

To me, this just shows another review (Tom's) that is obviously biased once again.

(There is no way the reviewer(s) don't know that benchmarks don't equal real world).

 

I am surprised that Tom's need to do all these test for the conclusion of 510. If you look at Intel's line up, you would know that is how they position the product. 510 for those asking for big sequential numbers, 320 for those towards more random nature usage. Different product for different usage, as simple as that.

As for SF, I continue to say until they prove that they are reliable, not something I would trust. Even if there is an Intel 522, I would not change my view until proven.

 

You might be on to something if Tom's came to a different conclusion then the other tech sites. In this case Techreport, Anandtech, Hardwareheaven, Storagereview all come to the same conclusion: the Vertex 3 is the performance king.

Consider that your bad experience with a mal functioning Patriot Inferno says nothing about the Vertex 3.

 

And these sites also didn't mention about the nice characteristic of DuraWrite speed brake for the Vertex 2 either.

 

Well, there's nothing that can be done about that, is there? It would be part of the package.

 

Anandtech did, as I recall. I should note that as a rather average user, I've yet to hit any Durawrite throttling at all, although I'm admittedly a horrible test case for it (240 GB SSD isn't going to hit any limits soon unless I go really crazy).

 

Phil, the 'malfunctioning' Inferno was declared working to spec's (by you) if I recall correctly.

This V3 vs. 510 comparison has nothing to do with what I have bought almost a year ago. I'm going by their numbers (which, btw, you also provided the links to).

A 4 second lead over the 510 does not make the V3 a speed 'king' in my books. Especially when over time, it may (don't know for sure...), slow down like the Inferno did - but it will for sure change if the usage pattern is anything 'hard' - like constant read/copying/moving/creating (of multi-media files).

So, yeah, back to the same conclusion: 'all' reviews I've read are biased towards the 'numbers producing' V3 and fail to give the readers a way to actually know what to expect in real world usage (and without SE'ing between each 'test/benchmark' done).

 

The V3 has more advantages than 4 seconds but I don't think you're willing to see it

No I told you time and time again that if your SSD performs less than a 7200rpm drive there's something wrong with it. Dead wrong.