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    SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Greg, Oct 29, 2009.

  1. Espada

    Espada Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey are my read/writes good for my ssd.
    its the samsung 470 i did a fresh install and all the tweaks i know of.
    [​IMG]
     
  2. randfee

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    na, sorry, this laptop belongs to my colleague and no, not allowed to uninstall it to properly bench it otherwise I would have done so.

    Well... McAfee claims using the Intel AES-NI Algorithm instead of the standard-FIPS one would increase performance "significantly". This being said... what could it improve if it were only the storage subsystem?

    I'm not buying another SSD, I only ordered my X220T (via IT department at work) with an Intel 320 160GB SSD. I did order it to come with the Intel SSD knowing about it's hardware encryption and hoping for them to accept it over EE.

    The software based encryption isn't very good anyways... all 500 laptops in the "company" have the same Safeboot pwd, for instance.... lmao!
     
  3. pokemon123

    pokemon123 Notebook Consultant

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    what kind of tweaks? sorry I'm new to ssd and I really don't know how to configure it to it's proper set up. All i did was a fresh install thats about it. thanks in advance for help
     
  4. Espada

    Espada Notebook Evangelist

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    oh yea i did the tweaks from ocz website.
    Guide * Windows 7 Ultimate Tweaks & Utilities *

    theres some you dont have to do just read what it does and see if its important its what i did.

    second one is http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...-intel-series-4-5-965-chipsets-jjb-tweak.html
    which helped with my new read and write speeds. and actually helped my new one figured it out hehehe :)
    [​IMG]
     
  5. dragonwolf8504

    dragonwolf8504 Notebook Evangelist

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    That looks right, I have the same drive and about the same scores, +/-5MB/s

    The drive is a good one, it's been doing good for me since I got it. Your be very pleased with it. Enjoy!
     
  6. Phil

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    New firmware for Intel 320 on the way:
    Update on "Bad Context 13x Error": Intel Communities
     
  7. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Sandisk SSD's

     
  8. Phil

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    ^ Interesting. " More Reliable Than a Hard Disk Drive" that's a pretty bold statement for a SF-1200 drive.
     
  9. tilleroftheearth

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    The spec's sure look like a SF based product.

    Pass.


    @Phil, lol...
     
  10. Abula

    Abula Puro Chapin

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    I really wish Samsung will develop their own Sata III drive, with how good the 470 was/is, im looking forward for their next ssd, that and intel 520s to move on from my X25ms.
     
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    I searched and couldn't find anything. So here is a untweak Intel 310 msata 40gb drive. Only thing that was ran was the intel ssd toolbox and making sure trim was on.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Phil

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    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    added my 3 mtrons to the list :)
     
  14. tilleroftheearth

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    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    tiller reads toms hardware. now THAT explains everything..

    other than that: nothing is 100% reliable => backup
    ssd has less chance of random death => more predictable reliability, which is important (if you don't believe so, let me drop your laptop while it's running and data-moving. happened to mine).
     
  16. tilleroftheearth

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    Dropping your notebook while it's running and moving data is not a 'random death'. I would be surprised if the HDD didn't die under that usage.

    Try reading the article I pointed to, instead of simply attacking me once again.
     
  17. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well, its tomshardware. not worth a read.

    and yes, if i plan to drop your laptop, it's not random. but if it's an accident, then it's quite random. which happened lately, due the power coord of the laptop having itself wired up into the chair, essentially throwing the laptop while in use about 3m because i wanted to move the chair.

    hdds can randomly die on bootup, they can die due to movements (small ones and big ones, if it's some form of shock, it can kill it). they can die due to vibrations. all of those can't happen to an ssd.

    this is all about risk management. there are things that can happen to a laptop. and in all those things, in most, an ssd has a much higher chance to survive than a hdd.

    if you can't understand that, you're not worth the attack. enjoy tomshardware, the best source for unbiased high quality articles on the web, ever. like fox news.
     
  18. tilleroftheearth

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    or, like the davepermen channel? :cool:

    When you admit that you're too lazy to even read the article you're bashing, why even bother to comment?
     
  19. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i have read it, out of curiosity. but it's toms hardware, very often debunked in the past for just babbling nonsense.
     
  20. Phil

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    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    just in case, it's an interesting read. only their extrapolation that more ssds die over the years is not really based on facts. it does make sense, though. at some point, all will be dead. question is, will it be a linear death-rate, or a growing one, or a declining one, etc? at some point, writes will come and increase the deaths. but till then, i guess it's mostly linear. but so far, no one can know. at least not based on some 2 year data.
     
  22. stamatisx

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    I found the article interesting, but my objection is that they used only enterprise level SSDs and HDDs that are located in Data Centers (not in laptops or desktops) plus I don't agree with the ARR or AFR since an SSD can perform many times more IOPS than a HDD (and that's why they replace 4 HDDS with 1 SSD) and I would rather see the failure rate or return rate in relation to data writen rather than time.
     
  23. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    that would be much more relevant towards consumer space indeed. as for consumers, usage doesn't increase really. on the server side, it does tremendously.
     
  24. Phil

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    Cape Consultant SSD User

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    It all comes down to one thing. Back up :)
     
  26. tilleroftheearth

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    Cape,

    Yeah, that hasn't changed - but current SSD's sure put a fire up your butt to do so NOW! lol...
     
  27. Cape Consultant

    Cape Consultant SSD User

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    Precisely! No more wiggle room for backups! BTW, just ordered me a nice OWC 240GB extreme 6G ssd. I will be backing that up too.
     
  28. junior21

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    Hey, I created a thread regarding insight into updating my T420 and then came across this thread.

    Just wondering on what SSD to get for my T420. I basically am looking at spending no more than $150.00 and want something reliable and easy to set up as I've never done this before.

    Thanks.
     
  29. Bill Nye

    Bill Nye Know Nothing

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    In the mainstream world, that's only enough to buy 64 GB drives.

    Stretching your budget a tiny bet lets you in on the 80gb 320 drive.
     
  30. Abula

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    If i had T420, i would probably go the mSata route and keep the mechanical hdd for storage (crosscheck your T420 has the port), a little more expensive than your budget, Intel 310 Series 80GB mSATA mSATA (mini PCIe form factor) MLC Enterprise Solid State Disk SSDMAEMC080G2C1 - OEM.
     
  31. junior21

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    Can someone please clarify what adding a mSata does?
     
  32. tilleroftheearth

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  33. pkincy

    pkincy Notebook Evangelist

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    I just moved one of my C300s (the 128GB) to my new build and after the DiskPart Clean ALL command it screams. It is faster than my new M4 in random reads/writes at this juncture.

    [​IMG]

    Pre Clean ALL

    [​IMG]

    OK, the before was my larger C300 but you get the drill on the difference with a rejuvenated set of NAND chips.
     
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  34. Rhuobhe

    Rhuobhe Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is from Vaio F series thread. I am looking to update my notebook internal disk from HDD to SSD.

    I wanted to know if there were any obvious benefits to doing a clean install of the OS (using OEM recovery disks) on SSD as opposed to recovering from a Windows 7 image backup from the original HDD.

    Thanks!
     
  35. pkincy

    pkincy Notebook Evangelist

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    People definitely have their preferences. I have done it both ways.

    And both ways work. I suppose I would make my decision on the shape and complexity of the installation and programs on the HDD. If I was completely happy with its performance and content and had no real reason to do a clean install I would do a backup and recovery or even a clone.

    If the HDD content left something to be desired and needed cleaning up, I would do the clean install and start fresh.
     
  36. junior21

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    Is the cheapest Intel 310 Series 80GB mSATA $199.99 from Newegg or is there anything cheaper?
     
  37. Fishon

    Fishon I Will Close You

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    For a Sony F, a clean install is definitely preferable.
     
  38. amidond

    amidond Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah the OWC Mercury Pro is 120GB for $197, check out the review here.

    Just received mine last night. Still playing around with it but its fast.
     
  39. pkincy

    pkincy Notebook Evangelist

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    Keep awake for deals. I got mine a month or so ago from Provantage for $179 + no tax and Newegg has to charge me tax.
     
  40. Tomy B.

    Tomy B. Notebook Evangelist

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    Good to see Samsung finally getting SATA 3 drives out. Obviously they've been doing a lot of testing.

    Love this:
    Yes, because we have internet connections that fast...and gigabit speeds don't limit you to 1000GBPs...or under SATA I speed...
     
  42. HTWingNut

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    Probably more like $900-$1000, especially on initial offering.
     
  44. atomicmuse

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    Hi guys, quick question. I'm looking to purchase a SSD for my HP DV6t quad, and I'm wondering if you could help. I'd like to keep the HDD in the laptop, and remove the optical drive. I assume I'd need a caddy for the ssd, but is there anything else I should be looking for when purchasing the SSD?
     
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    I recommend buying a caddy at newmodeus.com. If battery life is a concern, look for ans SSD with low idle power consumption. And in general Crucial M4, Samsung 470, and Intel SSD's are among your safest bets for reliability and customer service.
     
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    That's the site I planned on purchasing through. Thanks for the info.
     
  47. pkincy

    pkincy Notebook Evangelist

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    Don't miss that the Samsung SSDs in Sata III are OEM only just like the mSata drives they make.

    So cost won't be a factor as you can't buy one.
     
  48. Tomy B.

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    Not for long:
    Source
     
  49. Abula

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    I don't expect it to be as fast as the 470, but no doubt will be better than most of the previous gen SSD's. 4k read/writes will probably suffer the most, but in any case I find that isn't a big issue for regular use. I'd rather buy a 512GB SSD for $600 that has 20MB/s 4k performance than double that amount for one with 50!
     
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