SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

Well, you'll want the M series - the E series is for servers and much more expensive.

Now the X25-M is the 2,5" form factor, the X18-M the 1,8" form factor.

Edit, from this
http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=1268

I suspect a 2,5" drive. Wait for someone who knows though.

 

Thanks,

Got confirmation from here, I guess 2.5" C1 9.5mm will fit in nicely http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Serie...9;jsessionid=7C17BA3F94A3245527F50070B562351B

 

Sounds right happy hunting!

 

change your schedule to once all half year MAX. it most likely won't degrade that fast anyways. thus you won't see gain doing it once a month, reducing all your work to useless placebos. my mtrons got slow after a year of daily usage including some os installations, tons of app installations, and moving quite some data onto, and offfrom the disk.

 

in short: no.

 

actually, so far, the concurrent read writes are what makes my intel shine against anything else including samsung. i get every sort of ssd to block from time to time. every, except the intel ssd. that one has always some other bus free to read/write something else. none of the others give me that.

and the not so fast max writes are, so far, never an issue. i could once prove that it really is that "slow" by copying data over a 1Gb lan, giving actually 100MB/s. in each other case (installation of software, using it actually, moving around data on the ssd, etc) the intel is in the end faster. and this shows one thing: about NEVER in daily usage, a system has straight sequential writes over a longer period than some milliseconds.

how i explain this to normal people:

if i buy a car that can drive with 200km/h (around 125miles per hour), then i have a "fast car". that doesn't mean anything, though. we're not allowed to drive over 120km/h here, and most of my driving is in villages/cities.

what i need is a car that accelerates fast, and stops fast again. there are not much places where i can drive at the 120km/h for longer periods anyways.

 

problem is, the faster the boot in general gets, the simpler is it, to hit some other bottleneck, that makes it slow. like my laptop. the intel ssd sure allows fast boots, but my laptop has some hw in, that doesn't. why? so far, i haven't found out. but the disk is non-active for 10 seconds, during which time it tries to initialize something, but i haven't yet found out what. must be some hw, that has a crappy driver, or something. but i haven't found it out in vista, nor in win7.

 

actually, reliability IS one main point why i bought intel. i don't care about reliability of updates, they always have a risk. but i rely on having a disk that does not fail due to some shock, like a hdd, during a gig. and i rely on having a disk that will not, in case of power out, lose some data, possibly making my system files corrupt and my system unbootable (like any other ssd that has a cache).

i do have backups to restore all my data. the disks job is to be reliable while on the go, while on stage.

there is no other disk giving me that much trust. seeing intel caring about it's customers supports that trust even more. if something is wrong with the disks, intel doesn't deny it.

and silence, and performance both where important, too, of course.

 

and each time you open, or save a file.

 

well, for database style usage, there is the E, that's what it's made for. for consumer usage, the intel is the one with the least stuttering. i use them in a real-time system, and i've seen all my ssds lagging, some resulting in audio dropouts. except the intel.

so one had issues? maybe 5 had? omg, in the tenthousands of sold disks, that is really a BIG issue, then.
maybe, just maybe, they actually have set up their system wrong. which is why all other tenthousands of intel ssd users have 0 such problems?

 

no. terrible speed for a database with thousands of customers accessing it. and with terrible stutterings. seen it (without thousands of customers).

 

oh, and, good morning everyone

 

so i found something weird tonight. i took some hdtune benchmarks (after running it once, i always do that with all benches, lol) and after i had those, i was going to use the HDDErase utility, and compare the sets of numbers. seems straight forward enough.

so here is the bench with the lap sitting idle.



well, just for fun, i ran the benchmark a third time, this time while i was playing a 720p x264 encode, at about ~4mbit/s. i was wondering if i would notice the speed decrease in the benchmark, and there was a diff alright, except the numbers were a bit higher, anybody have an opinion on this? the following pic was of the bench i took while playing the video.



nope, i didn't get the pictures mixed up, lol

 

strange..

then again, both your numbers are way below what the ssd should deliver anyways.

 

thats true, im only running irc, and rivatuner, but ive been trashing it since ive got it, im going to try and run HDDErase on it and reinstall windows, see if that bumps my numbers back up. if they are still down after that, ill see what i can do then.

im not sure if hdderase works with my drive, but i couldn't quite get my mind around he exact steps talked about here: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65603

 

so much for "guaranteed performance" on samsungs

but was it near it's promised numbers in tests before?

 

than, you should get motorcycle
I have one, it lunches you form 0 to 100 km/h in less than 4 secs

 

maybe, just maybe there is something like speedstep enabled on your system, so, when system is idle, it will run with half of it's power, but, when you start movie, it goes to higher power state and the beast is released

 

P256 or samsung? i doubt they are identical as i posted this question before.

 

what do you mean by that ?!??!
unoptimized system rule does not apply in samy case, only intel- vise

 

as long as it's not stuttering-free, i'm not willing to risk my system to have it.

 

stuttering free depends ALWAYS on usage, and the system.

as i said. i have to rely on it being stutter free, too. a 9 hour live gig can not have drop outs just because of the disk. nor because of the os. or the app, or anything else.

but you can always make a bruteforce against any ssd or hdd to get it "slow". then it's a question of the actual app/server, if it handles the slowness at this moment with blocking, or slowing down, or crashing, or what ever.

 

samsung, sorry.

 

try to set block size at 1MB in option/benchmark...

 

slow is not an issue but stuttering (freezing, no response) is a big problem for trading system.

 

slow and stuttering are based on the same situation: work-overload. and one can be replaced by the other.

but freezing in hdd/ssd cases mostly means the lack of a free PARALLEL line to process that work. and as the intel ssd has the most parallel lanes, changes are the smallest to happen there. it's essentially the same as going from single to multicore.

 

Todays Newegg shellshocker is the Intel 80gb Gen1 1.8" with 2.5" adapter for $199.
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx

 

That graph looks like a perfect example of an SSD that's running at SATA/150 instead of SATA/300...

Although that might not be the case in this scenario. Weird...

Cheers,
Kermee

 

I am looking to upgrade my hard drive to intel ssd 80gb. I am pissed off that I missed that Newegg deal for 214 couple of weeks ago. The lowest price right now for the 80 is $243.00 from Provantage.com. Hopefully there will be another sale soon. If not then I guess $243.00 is not a bad price.

 

where/how would i check that out?

 

CrystalDiskInfo 3.1 or 3.2 should tell you what speed SATA is running at. But judging from your system (I think I remember seeing an i7, etc.), you shouldn't be running at SATA/150...

... Course, in the Acer thread here on NBR, someone was having an issue with an SSD that refused to run at SATA/300 and was stuck in SATA/150 on an Intel ICH that definitely supported SATA/300. But I thought that might of been a one-off bug/error.

Cheers,
Kermee

 

You guys actually benchmark SSD's? Wont they wear down much faster?

 

Sata 300, i think i just need to restore it.

 

I read a lot in this forums about SSD and while I do not recall where in particular I read that, it seemed to me that a few people were suggesting Samsung does not release firmware upgrades for their SSDs. As I am expecting my Lenovo notebook I came across this readme file:

http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/fwss11en.txt

In the notes it seems that this is the 3rd revision of the ssd firmware updater and it has newer firmware for Samsung drives. Did I get things wrong about the firmware upgradeability by reading too much about Samsung SSDs?

I also could not find much on FlashFire ( http://flashfire.org). Is anyone using this?

 

those are for Samsung 1.8" SSD , not 2.5

 

So the 1.8" drives (what I will have) can be reflashed and may one day be TRIM enabled?

 

With an MLC drive you are supposed to get 10,000 write cycles and then supposedly you should calculate wear leveling and write amplification... as long as you let GC or TRIM do it's thing inbetween benchmarking or just using your drive it should last well beyond it's life expectancy...but it's not even like heat death entropy or normal human lifespan expectancy...

 

we dont know if the firmware has trim or not, i dont see any1 tried here.

 

the intel g2 has fully TRim support right?

 

32G OCZ vertex

 

I downloaded the Intel SSD Optimizer and it installed! I have the newest firmware. It recommends to run the Intel Optimizer once a day which enhances TRIM and lord knows what else. My question is: Is this potentially data destroying and should I do a fresh timely backup first? I will be happy to upload the SSD optimizer if anyone wants it. ver 1.1.1.0 or something like that.

 

I wont use this toolbox since is pulled of by Intel.

 

OK, I get it. I do not use restore points so I am not worried about that. I will do a FULL backup first! correct version that I have is 1.1.0.000. I was sort of hoping it was the new version even though I did not get it from Intel's site

 

dont worry, you are covered by intel 3 years warranty.
lol.
just abuse it in three years.

 

Has anyone actually exerised their right to get an Intel warranty service fulfilled? I've personally tested Dell and Logitech's in regards to replacing products [for free] that are faulty based completely on the customer's word, but I have yet to read anything on Intel. Anyone???

 

if you get samsung SSD from dell website, the warranty is only 3 month, after that, they dont care.

 

Cnet. Seagate SSD soon arriving.

 

Just another sign of SSD's on their inexorable march towards the consumer. Me, I have already met them half way and am glad I have! 10 minutes till backup is done and I try the Intel optimizer!

 

Well, that was about as much a non event as Geraldo Reviera opening Al Capone's safe! It took 10 seconds and said, "OK, drive is ready". Hard to say whether it did anyting or not. truly weird

 

What did you expect?

a) SSDs are fast
b) you possibly have mainly empty space (little data)

if you assume sequential read speeds, you can write 3GB in about 30 seconds...