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    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Greg, Oct 29, 2009.

  1. Cape Consultant

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    I guess I expected a graph like a defrag type of graph or something! I am happy it did not mess anything up! yes, I have over half empty space. Gonna open Photoshop now :)
     
  2. DetlevCM

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    Use a stop watch :) Mine takes about 7-8 seconds to open.

    Where did you get the toolbox by the way?

    I get a lot of Google links with "torrent" in them, which I don't want to try...
    The only other I get is Intel (pulled) and one site that linked to Intel...
     
  3. Cape Consultant

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    I got it from a safe place. From a link in Anand forum, Memory and Storage area, but I forget where :) Was not a torrent, I hate those things. nevermind, here:

    http://fs11n3.sendspace.com/download/lite/dca003c299bb9acc498d308107d61af2/4b1d8263/wxug4g/6844cd7d2524fc9e7f33452e7d04c11f/AlV$MzRIN3d$GjNSFn0lL0V1UW9mdVZaa3Y6T1YzBkgcCiZ7/Intel_SSD_Toolbox_1_1_0_000.msi

    Um, maybe it was a torrent :)
     
  4. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    thanks - but I get a 403 forbidden error in FF from Uni and in FF and IE from home :(

    Edit,
    someone else posted a link on the intel forums - I hope that's good.

    Link to Intel forum:
    http://communities.intel.com/message/76966
     
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    hankaaron57 Go BIG or go HOME

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    Don't hate on torrents. The torrent community is the best commnity on the planet. It's not difficult to discern good torrents from malware.

    /end rant
     
  6. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I never said anything about hate - that's what your saying.

    I just don't trust them - period.

    And I suspect the majority of torrent traffic is of dubious legality.

    And picking a random site with "torrent" in its name is plain stupidity - that's a nice virus source - period.
    (even if something like an Intel Toolbox does cater to a more exclusive circle)
     
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    hankaaron57 Go BIG or go HOME

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    Did it ever occur to you I might possibly have been addressing the person above you who said "hate"?
     
  8. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Oh, actually I didn't :D

    But he's possibly using the same reasoning that I use ;)

    Yes, you get legal uses - e.g. Linux

    But they are the minority.
    And its very easy to slip in malware - that's a significant weak spot.
     
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    i'd take any torrent, if the torrent file is hosted on a trusted page. means any intel tool in a torrent, that has the torrent on www.intel.com, i take it :)
     
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    successfully ordered an 80gb g2 for my mediacenter now.. prices went up a bit, but at least available :)
     
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    hmm, so the firmware on the mushkin site, says its version VBM1901Q

    can anyoen confirm that is later than the one i have, which is: VBM19D1Q?

    i mean, it looks like it's later, i just want to be sure.

    meh, im going to try and install it as soon as my x264 encode is done. i see there is a trim utility here as well, wiper/exe.....is that for the samsung?
     
  13. DetlevCM

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    Something I did today...

    This is pre TRIM - I already wrote 360GB to the drive... a slight surprise...
    [​IMG]

    I assume that was Trim... at least... it took seconds... but if it isn't I have no idea what is in the toolbox...
    (My Firmware is trim enabled)
    [​IMG]

    Virtually no change.
     
  14. Cape Consultant

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    Sorry about the link. I copied it from my FF download section, a feature I never used before. Only reasonj i tried it is becasue it came from a decent enough source, a fellow SSD'er on Anand Tech. I follow the Memory and Storage Forum there to get any little bit of SSD info that comes up. SSD's are a pretty hot topic there, not as hot as here. And I do not really "hate" torrents. Just not much knoeledgeable/experienced with them. Have d/l'd a few things over the years, but use a "best practice" of not using them as then trying to determine if it is a "good" torrent is just one less thing to do! Dave
     
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    Detlev,

    Thats weird there was no change, I moved three hi def movies (24gb) over onto my drive, then deleted them and it wrecked my speeds, then I ran TRIM and they were the same as before.
     
  16. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Or my drive never slowed in performance...

    What ICH8 drivers (did I spell that right?) do you use - the old "matrix ones" or the "experimental not official" matrix storage drivers? mine are old...
     
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    My Intel X25-M 80GB arrived earlier today, I did a atto benchmark on it and it came out super low can anyone tell me what could be the causes?

    write/read came out only on avg 81mb/139.9 mb

    http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4592/intelx25mbenchmark.png

    I did this on a 4-5 year old pc and that was without the trim upgrade, could they be the cause?
     
  18. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Don't think you get higher write speeds on an 80GB one - read - is it running as SATA 1 or 2?
     
  19. LockdownX

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    SATA 1/2? Sorry I still have much to learn about upgrading pc/notebooks, but that might have been the problem. How do i check?

    The m15x i ordered will be shipped later this week or next week, so I just wanna run a quick test on the ssd I will be using on it.
     
  20. DetlevCM

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    Get CrystalDiskInfo and see what it tells you :)

    Sata 1 and 2 are two connection types - they are interchangeable in terms of compatebility - but will run at the lower one -SATA 1 gets up to about 150MB/s and SATA 2 gets about 300MB/s theoretical max speeds.

    Technically 1,5 and 3GBit/s...
     
  21. sgilmore62

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    The 80gb Intel gets 250mb/s seq reads and 70mb/s seq writes according to specs right? Look at the 4k random reads and writes with crystaldiskmark.
     
  22. LockdownX

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    Just ran it on my 80gb HD and got SATA/150, I assume it should be the same on the SSD aswell.
     
  23. LockdownX

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    Ok I was wrong, I ran crystaldisk on my intel ssd and it said SATA/300

    The max speed it is reading is 139 what could be the problem?
     
  24. ronan_zj

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    I think your computer has SATA1.5Gb/s , not SATA3.0Gb/s
     
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    What SATA drivers is device manager showing?
     
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    Restarting with only the 9400m enabled shaves about 5 seconds off my restart times.
    [​IMG]
     
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    my friend just flash the drive, it works perfect
     
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    Well I just bought a OCZ vertex, and before I update it and put my os on it, I have some quick questions. This is also a two hard drive laptop (G71)

    1. People say that I have to swap out the original hard drive with the ssd and then put the original hard drive in the second slot. Is that right?

    2. Will I ever need to buy these jumpers people talk about to have to possibly update the ssd in the future?

    3. When I am ready to install the OS on the ssd, will the vista or w7 install disc pick up the drive instantly, or do I have do some tinkering around with the ssd first before I should install the os on it?

    I am still a noob with ssds, and the ocz guides were helpful, but I just hope I can get some more help here. Thanks.
     
  30. Cape Consultant

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    hey everyone, so i am considering buying a ssd drive and would like to spend less than $300. im considering getting the intel x-25m 80gb or maybe a kingston 128gb for roughly same price. my question is the better quality of the intel gonna make up for me having less storage for music and games? because i have a external with plenty of space but of course i want to keep a much with me as i can. thx.
     
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    That is becasue one has built in RAID and one does not. the one without is $25 at Amazon with free shipping and 19.99 at the Egg but with 9.00 shipping! the ones with RAID are more but I did not price them out. Built in RAID with ONE SATA connector to input to mainboard. Cool. No need to use mainboard RAID.
     
  34. ronan_zj

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    there is a guy selling samsung 256G SSD with new firmware VBM24D1Q, hmmm.
     
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    I guess I don't know much about RAID controllers, but I do recall being in the marketplace for one last year and seeing prices range from $80-$2000. I've always been curious as to how the performances differ. I assume this external onboard RAID would be no different than a software RAID setup?
     
  36. Cape Consultant

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    I am pretty sure it is not a 700 Adaptec card in there :) But I have never actually used RAID so cannot really say. I think it is a CHIP in there so it seems it wold be hardware based. I think it would be kind of cool for one SSD and one larger data drive a spinner. Nice and quiet and low power. Best of all worlds. However, I myself find that the 160GB of my G2 is just fine for now and the future. I do many different things, but do not generate nor use tons of data. Digital photos is about it, and that is a hobby.
     
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    Well, if CrystalDiskInfo reads it as SATA 300 then you should be getting Sata II speeds, to the best of my knowledge it reads the speed the device runs at...
     
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    I see the Indilinx 1848 firmware was released today. Anybody know what the changes are that are made? I have a Vertex and OCZ has came out and said they're skipping this one, anyone know why?
     
  39. ronan_zj

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    For ocz, both 1.40 and 1.41 are stable enough, so there is no reason they want to get 1848 released. 1848 is a new version of 1819 coz 1819 does brick lot of SSDs. I have 1848 beta on my X256 Corsair, and it runs perfect.
     
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    in the video, he talks that the last one didn't have raid. might be the old and the new one?

    i like that, somehow :)
     
  41. Cape Consultant

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    XL has RAID, the other one does not.
     
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    i like that. you know why? if the raid0 is faster than without raid0, then this one might finally result in actual GAINS. as normally, the time to init the raid controller takes longer than the gain you get (which are mostly in the os boot time anyways :))
     
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    Just want to confirm ronan_zj that I must have been mistaken about the sleep mode in my clients Dell.

    It doesn't go to an S1 sleep mode just as you said.

    Sorry, I was wrong.
     
  44. ronan_zj

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    lol, thank you Tiller.
    I just sold my Samsung 256 on weekend, and my 160G will be here tomorrow.
    I will never buy samsung controller SSD anymore.
    here are my options:
    1. Indilinx based SSD.
    2. SanFroce based SSD.
    3. Marvell based SSD( actually are Intel SSD and Micron SSD)
     
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    Anyone have any idea why my ssd intel 80gb only reads up to 139.9mb max(used atto benchmark), while every other is reading over 240mb, i ran crystal disk and the transfer mode said SATA/300 with. Could using an out dated pc be the cause?
     
  46. Cape Consultant

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    Dave Permen that would be cool to check out. It looks like a very forward thinking product. And it would work with spinners too, if that is what the person wanted.
     
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    LockdownX,

    Just because the drive reports Sata2 speeds to CDM, it doesn't mean you're actually connected to a Sata2 port. I would guess your 'out dated' pc is the cause - you need a more modern platform.
     
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    I was connected to RAID SATA ports and I was getting abysmal speeds, also, make sure your in AHCI mode, if you cannot do that im not sure theres much you can do.
     
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    I hope that's the main problem, my m15x lappy will arrive sometime next week so I'll test it out on that :)
     
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    Anyone here have a Patriot Torqx M28 or know someone that has one? If so, could you post HD Tune Pro v3.50 results for the random read/write. It should look something like the attached pic.
     

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