SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

To test it easily and painlessly, you only need a spare HD.

You can rearm it for 3 times to get 4 months use out of it - that should be enough to see if it does 'work' for you.

But, yeah - maybe a new machine with Win 7 x64 already installed is 'easier' too!

 

Its much easier (and I'm lazy)

I might even skip Win7 - I hope my Vaio lasts at least another 2 years - and in 3 years, hopefully Windows 8 will be out

 

lol!

I just hope in three years that I'm around! lol...

 

the one with the wrong information.. for sure. tomshardware is famous, not? *smile*

it's actually not wrong information that wins. but dramatic information, failures, bugs, etc, those spread.

look at the amount of people "knowing ssds will die one day due to limited write cicles". everyone knows that. bad things always spread much faster than good things.

intel firmware has a bug? everyone knows. bug got fixed nearly a year ago? nobody cares.



we all love drama, and we all love to point at stuff if it fails (espencially if we aren't able to own it / reach it's status.. just check how much we love to see every fault celebrities do? the most important thing in the world. we can't be one of them, so lets see how they fail).

 

lets sure hope so!

i need someone to fight with

 

Let me re-word my statement...

The updater might be checking for a C1Q fw, is my guess.

 

I think it just checks the hardware ID and if it doesn't match no flash. Here's the Lenovo utility extracted from the CD if anyone wants to try it

 

Thanks for the link, cosmok.

 

bad things always spread much faster than good things. Well, you got that right, for sure. Coke in plastic bottles causes cancer? Remember that one? I am still seeing plenty of plastic bottles on the shelves, not that I drink that crap anymore.

In my more cynical moods, I sometimes suspect that bad news is simply made up because it is good publicity Do you hear me, Paris Hilton? I got her number, for sure!

 

which then results in wrong news, and that's what we try to myth-bust here..

as well as myth-busting the balance of "yes, the bad things exist, but no, they are not even CLOSE to being that often, or that bad"

 

Is this the SSD thread, or the Inquirer?

 

the inquirer is one of the reasons, that thread exists and tries to debunk the myths the inq spreads

 

davepermen, aw, thanks!

Okay, I'm totally disgusted with the direction this thread has taken.

sleey0 is right!

Back to topic with serious news:

See:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-Cannon-Bells-Chime-Video,9288.html


Just wondering if these are the same engineers that designed the Intel G2 (before or after the making of the Intel chime clip here)?

 

serious news and you post tomshardware *facepalm*

but yeah, it's cool

 

Did you see the video? lol...

Maybe SSD's are so good that they have allowed everyone to finish their work faster and actually outrun/outthink themselves and now, we have to wait for the 'brains' behind these SSD's to catch up and surpass them once more to be shown the next 'future' product/stuff from them.

Okay, maybe I'm not making too much sense, but just because SSD news has slowed down, may as well keep this thread alive, right?

 

i guess those canons where used to test the shock resistance of ssds?

 

I get it!

'Intel Inside' means that not only did they make the worlds biggest Intel chime, but they were also powered by SSD's (G2's, of course) internally. Two tests in one!

The promise of multiple threads, the power of parallelism, the effectiveness of multi-tasking.

Ah! The beauty of it all!

 

Well I didn't feel that SSD was that much slower, I'm not heavy user. And I wont say that this is that much improvement, I think that now cells are "clean" because of GC.

Thanks, I'll enjoy it, as I was before!


About alignment stuff: it's not related to controller, HDD or SSD, every HDD or SSD will work faster with aligned partitions.

 

no, not every. only ssds that depend on the alignment. that is dependent on the firmware. as intel loved xp and hated vista in the times they developed their ssds, they sure made it detect alignments (easy: all writes to a disk have the same alignment, wrong or right one, at least per partition (so for a huge region of the disk). so it's easily detectable and adjustable.

and the intel papers actually show signs that they do detect this and fit it afterwards.

 

Actually, Tomy B. is right.

All HD's do benefit with aligned partitions - just not to the degree seen with SSD's. A quick google search will bring many examples for this on 'normal' mechanical HD's.

Cheers!

 

Wow, look at the timing!

See:
http://anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3691


Talking about the next gen Format.

 

Wow! This thread is still here... I stopped reading for awhile but still love SSDs. I just built a new Windows 7 system with Intel 160GB G2 SSD (upgraded the firmware to the latest to support TRIM of course) and it's great so far. Check out the photos if you want:

http://www.htmlvalidator.com/CSEForum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=753

 

Am looking through your photos...will comment later.

 

Very nicely done. Bravo!

Do the drives slide into their connections like a Mac Pro on that case?

 

interesting stuff that shows how crap vertex used to be...
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531&p=19

 

My 4K reads/writes seem a little slow. I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate x64. AHCI, write-caching enabled, Toolbox optimized. Thoughts? I might pop it in my desktop to see how it benches on a faster system.

 

Thanks!

If it's what I think you're thinking of, then no, you still have to plug in the SATA power and data cables once you slide the drive into the case.

 

I have no problems with those scores? What would a different platform prove even if the benchmarks were higher? Unless you were going to use it in that 'new' platform?

Ah! Thank you. Still nice and 'clean'.

 

Has anyone had luck cracking the corsair tool to allow for Samsung OEM drives to be flashed?

 

yap, tomy was very much in alignment stuff, me not, I didn't feel that my ssd is slow couse I used w7 on my ssd from day one, and tomy was on xp at the time but on the mechanical drive...
after few months, I've decided to try xp on ssd, and it felt kind a slower, so, tomy started to do some testing with alignment, and there was, as far as I remember a noticeable difference

for me, it was more easy to move back to w7

 

darQ96, since I'm still a mechanical HD user, can't comment directly about the performance delta between aligned vs. non-aligned on an SSD. Just know that even on a mechanical HD it makes a difference too.

As for XP, although it still is faster than Vista/Win 7, to me it 'feels' slow!

Win 7 is a much more smoother overall experience and the UI shortcuts make up for a lot of the small XP speed benefits whether I'm using it for 'power' editing sessions or simply typing into a quick reply forum input box.

I realize that with Vista/Win 7 I'm using a x64 bit O/S and XP was 32 bit only - I can already hear the 'no fair' comparison shouts. But the reality is that once hardware (drivers, actually) is sorted out - the fact that I'm running a 64 bit O/S is not obviously apparent for 99% of the things I use the computer for. (What's the 1%? Software installs).

Also, I know XP users can use things like Desktop Sidebar (I used to too), but the 'gadgets' that Vista/Win 7 offer not only get used, they offer the information I want/need without distracting from my main use of the system.

Anyway, a quick comparison between XP, Vista and Win 7:

for Desktops (older link):
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-performance,2476.html

and for Notebooks (new, check out the battery life scores):
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-notebook,2485.html


What impresses me most about Win 7 x64 is how 'robust' it is. Especially when used with MSE, it is easily the most malware proof O/S going into 2010.

Even better, this O/S seems to have the base core structure needed to do one O/S installation for the life of any single machine - XP was a far cry from that and Vista, while better, seemed only marginally so.

With SSD's crying for our attention more and more each day, this 'one time O/S install', or 'bullet-proof' install as I call it, will not only save us time and money, but will also save our SSD's unneeded wear and tear too.

This is one reason why I'm so adamant about a clean install with Win 7; it should be the first and last install on any single HD/SSD you'll need.

Cheers!

 

Every disk (no matter SSD, HDD, thumb drive, SD card...) work faster when aligned.

EOD

 

wrong much too general statement. now, EOD

 

Downloaded XP mode and virtual pc and ran pcpitstop, a little surprised at the disk score. gonna dl some more benchmarks to run in xp mode.

This is the test with Windows 7

 

I guess the virtual pc runs on a virtual ram disk?

 

Crystaldiskmark in xp mode

 

My dad has a new mac mini and is thinking of the 30GB OCZ Vertex for it. Just checking to see if any one knows for sure this will work or has actually done it. Thanks, Dave

ps Micro Center has a nice $40 rebate on this making it about $109, I think.

 

Here is what an 80GB X-25M G2 drive should be benching at:

 

man,
stop benchmarking ur SSD.
just use it as ur regular HD

 

You guys need to take your argument to PM. It's getting annoying coming here hoping for some info. on an SSD update and seeing you two bickering.

 

The posts that related to the ongoing bickering have been deleted. It added nothing to the thread and was also against forum rules.
Please lets draw a line under this.

 

it should work if the hdd has the same size and connector. mac mini has sata 2.5"? i think it has, but i'm unsure.

on the other hand, the kingston intel 40gb should be available for the same price? with 30% more storage

 

More storage and much better random writes and Intel controller.

 

Are you using Intel Matrix Storage Drivers or still experimental Rapid Storage Drivers?

 

I was using the Matrix Storage drivers and those were getting about the same as what I'm getting now with the Rapid Storage drivers.

 

Interesting... I'm getting less on Vista with the Matrxi Storage drivers on a 160GB G2...

Especially on the 4K random ones - they seem very, very high.

 

it takes five days to get write speed recovery after TRIM firmware update:

 

What SSD?
I assume Intel?

Your read speeds dropped...

 

no i guess his corsair. write speeds are too high for intel.

 

corsair P256, ordered one x-25m 160G G2 but have yet to receive. it's strange for read speed drop...