SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

It is your best bet. There are so many that are wondering why they have such long boot ups, shut downs, pausing during use and low performance scores. They don't realize that a system cluttered with bloatware, trial programs, manufacturer specific resgistry setting as well as remnants from old programs that are very registry intensive and proprietary (Norton for ex) are probably responsible for their problems 90% of the time.

 

If OCZ is Core Series V2 then it is slower one.

 

Ok thanks the extra 60gb will probably be handy as well seeing as the ocz is only 60gb and the Kingston is 128gb

 

I'm wondering if my Toshiba M750 is okay with the Intel(R) ICH9M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller, listed under IDDE ATA/ATAPI controllers...I guess so!

This might be OT, but I found a PCI Simple Communications Controller under "Other Devices", with Location: PCI bus 0, device 3, function 0 - does anyone know what this might be?? (I installed Win7 on a Vista-supplied unit)

Edited to Add: Also found a "Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface" showing the yellow triangle under Network adapters...

 

Does anyone have a Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC256MAG-1G1 yet? From the reviews I've read, this looks like the drive to get. Only downside may be that it is next-gen parts which haven't stood the test of time yet. I don't think that is much of an issue though since it is Micron.

Is the SATA-6GB backwards compatible? How many laptops are there that currently support 6GB/s?

 

I have questions about the SSD drive alignment too.

Here's how it goes. I do a clean install on a new SSD. After I done doing that & I'm happy with the installation, I do a full disk (byte by byte or sector by sector) clone of the SSD. Then later on, I wipe the SSD using HDDErase & put back the clone image back onto the SSD. My question is:

Will this clone image still be aligned properly as before?

 

Just FYI, while SSDs are more able to protect against casual data failure (shock, write arm scratching a platter, etc), with TRIM it's virtually impossible to recover deleted data from a crashed drive as it's not just deleting the file reference, it's actively wiping the NAND cell.

 

If something is overwritten once its already unretrievable on a SSD - with wear levelling and the amount of data some of us here "push" around that's easily happening.

But you are right that for the clumsy this could be a potential concern.

 

hence the need for a good backup system will never go away.

 

If You backup and restore that image to same SSD/HDD (not clone to other drive) it will stay aligned. And I don't see any reason to do sector by sector backup.

BTW: if You have Win 7 use Acronis True Image 2010, older versions have some issues with restoring images to drive

 

This could actually be viewed as a "feature". Don't necessarily need to secure erase or worry about somebody recovering deleted data if your laptop is stolen. When I delete things I usually, if not always, want them gone for good

 

X-18M in my desktop:

 

Amen to that Les!

 

Is there a reason why Kingston SSD's are significantly cheaper compared to others on the market?

 

Less support?
(for the Intel made drives)

And in some quality just cheaper components.

 

Also, not the best specs. But it's reassuring they have Kingston support because Kingston has accrued great reputation in a short time for being reliable as well as a great warranty support for the customer. Unparalleled I would say actually, and I hope that picks up for the SSD sector as well.

 

Planning on reinstalling Windows 7 on my 80gb. I was just wondering whats the best way to do it. Should I just reinstall over the current OS? Or should I delete both partitions (OS) and (100mb) and then let Windows 7 create a new (100mb) partition. Thanks

 

the latter.......B FRESH!!!!!

 

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?64753-A-simple-guide-for-gen1-owners(-Apex-solid-core-V1-V2)-or-raid-array-owners-who-want-to-consolidate-free-space-and-clean-the-remaining-Nand-on-the-drives.-OCZ-gen2-drives..Vertex-Agility-Solid2-TURBO-owners-with-FW-1.5-you-do-not-need-this.


has anyone else tried/heard of this im doing it now will post results when done

 

Hello Guys
I have question
I own laptop and it does NOT support RAID via BIOS so i have to use Win 7 RAID (Ult. 64 BIT) right ?
I have primary SSD 128GB and Secondary is just HDD 320 GB
I have a question : Can I pair these drives ?
Or how to make RAID 0 with these two Disks in win 7 64 ?
In near future I will order second SSD 128GB and then I will pair them ..
Will I be able to make RAID 0 in disk management and increase performance?
Thnx a Lot

guys have you seen this ? incredible !

 

Not really that incredible... take a few Intel drives and raid them - same result.

On the other hand - what about queued writes?

Same as a single HDD vs. a raided HDD array.

????

Hardware RAID requires identical drives - you can get "software raid" which will work with different drives but doesn't give a lot if any performance increase - its more to increase data security.

In your case - put the OS on the SSD, and not so important large files on the HDD.

 

@DetlevCM
i really want to make raid 0 with two ssd in laptop and I have never seen that anybody done this just only desktop i have seen
i have it now on ssd is os and on normal hdd there are files
yeah i know that's needs identical i just wanted try what happens
i wanted follow this gude :
http://www.alanjlee.com/blog/a-few-notes-on-windows-7-software-raid/
so if i will try make win 7 raid with two SSDs 128gb , there will be no speed increase?
that's really crap ..

 

In hardware Raid there would be a speed increase - software raid, not really - or a very small one, besides that, it would eat CPU cycles.

Software RAID is not aimed at performance.

 

aah alright so am gonna gorget it no point software raid ..
thnx so much for info

 

Agreed....I think its pretty jaw dropping but would like to have seen some computer ops such as start up and fle Xfer since he had the screen right there.

 

There is a point in software raid.

Storage - things like the Windows Home Server - cheaper and easier to do than Hardware Raid, also just needs random HDDs - but then, its not performance aimed.

 

no point for me detlev ..
what am trying to do is ''mine out'' MAXIMUM speed in laptop what laptop can possibly develop (performance) with two ssds using RAID feature

 

You can setup a software RAID 0 and be as fast or faster than most hardware RAID 0 but you can't boot from it because the RAID volume depends on the OS that created it for it's file structure.

If your cd/dvd drive is SATA you can put an SSD in there to put your OS on and create a RAID 0 volume from the other two drive bays. To benefit the most from the array you would need to move your entire user profile to the array -- and that is technically very difficult if not impossible for the average user. Very high geek level of difficulty.

You right click on the two unformatted SSD's in disk management and make them dynamic then right click and select new striped volume and follow the prompts.

 

Hey guys, I wonder whether is it just my internet connection or does it happens to everybody, I just can't seem to access to the intel download centre. I wanted to download the firmware 02hd for my intel ssd but I have totally no luck.

 

hi
why should have to put hdd to bluray bay ?
i need bluray for films ..
i have 2 bays for hdds or ssds so noo need to remove bluray drive
but those mongs sony they didnt implemented RAID
so it will be good then use win 7 raid ?
if will be performance increased am gonna do it ...
can i doraid with ssd and hdd ? (not same capacity )

 

Newegg has open box X-25E 32GB for $264...you could get one of those for your OS and try to install everything you can to the 128GB as a data drive and you will have a plenty fast system. Most applications will let you change the drive letter when installing.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167013R

 

Oh my good ONLY 32 GB and so expensive ooh nooo definetly not buying that
I have samsung ssd 128 ''220/200 (that is NOT true what speed they claiming) that cost me £ 180 about 10 months back
now I sent best offer on ebay for the same one £ 100 seller will probably decilined me but am trying cheapest as possible

 

The 32GB Intel one is a server drive...

 

You can use it in a laptop, plenty of ordinary PC enthusiasts buy SLC SSD's.

 

And what do you gain?

Of course you can...

Yes, write speeds are nice, but else its pretty much useless in a laptop.

 

Useless? you are going to need to clarify that -- you mean it is to expensive or just plain useless?

 

Higher energy consumption -> less battery life and speeds that a laptop can't really exploit - at least no user really can.

They are meant for things like database access on a server.

Same idea as a car with a jet engine - you could do that... (and hit a wall at 1 Mach)

 

The speed is still under SATA 3Gbps, there are plenty of laptops capable of "exploiting" that.

Using these in enterprise environments usually means quite a few in an array that will easily eclipse SATA 3Gbps but we are not talking about putting 5 of them in a notebook -- only one.

 

Here is another reason:

Too little space - the only programmes that really befit from such speeds won't fit onto one.

Things like Photoshop, Video editing - I've got very little on my Vaio and I'm using about 35-37GB.

A single day of shooting photographs and you have quite a few GB more.

 

yeah some sony vaios they have RAID but looks like nobody on EARTH just dont make two bloody ssd in raid and make some tests even they have it in front of their noses !! good damit
aaagrrh !!

 

IRST 9.6: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15251/eng/STOR_allOS_9.6.0.1014_PV.exe

 

Yes trim enabled but end result is same scores as MS AHCI

 

that doesn't do anything it is just info about storage devices everything is in everest

 

Here ya go....with benches at Intel...yes....TRIM...no....not tested on a laptop yet...follow the thread listed as someone was testing and promises to post.

THREAD

http://communities.intel.com/thread/11920?start=0&tstart=0

DOWNLOAD

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/detail_desc.aspx?agr=N&ProductID=&DwnldID=15251

 

maybe your hard drive controller is not from intel.

 

No it's no go
Anyway guys thank you very much am appreciate your help so much !
Am gonna sell this laptop anyway and I will buy proper one with RAID support!
I have seen one powerfull new ASUS Rog but when I find out that it doesn't have RAID (and there are 2x 500GB installed HDDs )
I was TOTALLY disappointed !

 

after installed 9.6, AS SSD benchmark has improved a bit on x-25m 160/80G and x-25v than 9.5.7.

 

What about winsat disk, I noticed the default M$ drivers produce high latency numbers in the responsiveness tests with the Intel SSD's, is that solved with the newer TRIM drivers?

 

IRST driver seems always better than default m$ in terms of max latency, with 9.6 i just tested twice, left is before manual trim, right is after using intel tool box. both with IRST 9.6.

 

I just tried the 9.6 driver - now my Intel hasn't been trimmed for over a week on Vista - they are great:

(When I did a test after a few 100GB of writes once, sequential was a bit slower... random faster)

(Same test - just 2 views)