Samsung 830 SSD

You still would have to rely on GC within the 830. IIRC, Intel RST will be out with something (release, not pre-beta) by summer.

More info here - http://forum.notebookreview.com/solid-state-drives-ssds-flash-storage/633747-raid-not-raid.html

 

When it "freezes", if your computer has a hard drive light, is the light on solid during the freeze/pause? Does the problem "fix" itself after say 20-30 seconds?

If so, check your event logs for "Device\Ide\iaStorN, did not respond within the timeout period" messages, where N corresponds to a port #. If you see, those, see post #248, as I ran into that and had to make registry changes to workaround it. I wouldn't advise mucking w/those registry entries unless you're hitting the exact same problem as I was.

SSD Magician 3.1 is still installed on my laptop but I don't have it run on startup or anything like that.

 

In the process of RMA'ing my 830 as we speak

 

I might have to RMA mine as well, depends on if installing it in my desktop fixes the BSOD issue I was having.

 

What is the preferred procedure for this upgrade. A "clean" install? Will the bundled Norton Ghost product be sufficient for this purpose?

I'd love to have this new drive but I'm not to fond of tinkering under the hood. I just like to push the buttons.

 

I always vouch for a clean install.

And I haven't good great thigns about Norton Ghost

 

Mine gave me Bootmgr is missing after I restarted it. Tried to boot from windows to do a Startup Repair, wouldn't work. Went into the BIOS and the drive wasn't listed. Put windows on one of my Velociraptors and can't see the SSD

Good luck with yours. I called them up and they got me a return shipping label with 3 hours. Don't know when I'll get time to send it out tho =/

 

Well at least thats them doing something right. I always give a nod to companies who are willing to back their product and pay the bill the shipping. May not be that much money in the grand scheme of things but it's a really nice touch since not having the drive for a while is already inconvenience enough.

 

Mine "Works" but it would literally slowly kill windows after I'd try to use Windows Backup, would finish creating an image of the SSD and the activity light would stay on, and things on the desktop would start dying one by one, before just BSODing and restarting to a "No System disk" message. I'd have to cut power before it would work again

My laptops running on a Intel 320 now, but I'll see what happens on a new install with the Sammy when I get my desktop built Tuesday...

 

I got this warning last night on my 830



HDtune says value 7, and the number is not increasing so far.
Crystal disk info says all ok, no error detected, value 0.
Samsung magician also says value 7, but it checks it as "OK".

I scanned the disk for errors, and its all ok.

Should i be worried or is this a false positive ?

 

Yea it's cool they're paying for shipping and just gonna replace it. I only sent them the drive (no bracket, SATA / power cable) so hopefully they're cool with that and just send me a drive. Newegg dropped the price $20 and I complained and they said they wouldn't reimburse me the difference. So I asked if I could get a refund and just buy an m4 for cheaper and they gave me the difference which was kind of cool.

Hopefully I'll have my 830 back by Friday...

 

Can anyone post any coupon or deals for the Samsung 830?. Looking to pick up a 256 or 128 gb version

Thanks

 

Check the tech bargains board, it was up for $340+Free Ship

 

Can you post link, trying to surf from iPhone as my comp is not working. Would greatly appreciate any deals posted for either Samsung or intel

Thanks

 

^^^just use pinch to zoom. go to the main webpage....then scroll down to the techbargin subforum. Its really not that hard. I use this website all the time on my iPhone...

 

just did an experiment, ran a boot timer with various startup settings and these were my results:

full boot with login: 36 seconds
login and win gui disabled: 26.3 seconds
no startup programs: 20.5 seconds
no startup programs or services: 15.4 seconds

 

Sheesh....everywhere I read online gave glowing reports for this SSD..and now I check this thread and all I see are issues...I am in the middle of getting my laptop equipped with 2 Samsung 830 256GB....I sure hope I don't have any problems...and that seems waay too long to boot into Windows in my opinion..the Patriot Wildfire in my sig would boot into windows in like 5-8 seconds max....I sure hope I didn't make a mistake going with two of these drives

 

Issues?

I haven't had a single problem with mine and it's blazing fast! I normally get 500MB/s read times.

I also think 20 seconds for a full restart is amazing, but of course I come from a single core AMD64 3200+ 2GB ram booting winxp so there's no comparison.

I've never seen a Windows machine that boots so fast, 5-8 seconds sounds impossible!

 

I'm very happy to hear that you aren't having issues! I simply made that statement because if you look at the last couple pages of this thread, all I kept seeing was BSOD here....RMA there..hehe...so hopefully they are just largely isolated incidents......as for my boot time..with the brand new laptop in my sig...with minimal programs running at startup...after hitting the power button..I counted "1 mississippi...2 mississippi..." (yeah I know..very technical method) and I promise you my windows home screen was up and ready at 8 seconds.....the only reason I said 5..is there were a couple times afterwards that I swear may have been a second or 3 faster

 

ah I see, I used this timer:

Download Windows Boot timer 1.0 Free - Windows Boot timer is a useful boot timer utility - Softpedia

its very light and simple, why don't you try it and post your results?

 

<$0.02>TBH, not many ppl get online and post, "Hey. I'm having zero problems w/ my SSD drive. Not much to talk about here."

Most ppl posting to forums like NBR are a) researching investigating before a purchase, b) having a problem, and looking for help, or c) are geeky and weird and like to learn about technology (I fall under this category).

So my guess is you're seeing a lot of posts from group b.< / $0.02>

 

Well mine did work perfectly fine when I first got it, then I forgot my main rule of computers: "Never do first day updates".

 

Just got my 830 256GB, won't have a chance to install until next week but first impressions are very positive. I know it's the performance and not so much the packaging that matters but I've got to hand it to Samsung, they know how to package a product to make it feel subsantial. Relative to say the hollow box of the Crucial m4, The solid box and sleek design are definitely screaming premium product.

Also, God blass Samsung for having the foresight to include a 2.5" drive spacer. Before I got the thing I was having all sorts of brainstorms of how I would fill the extra space and secure the drive.

Will report back after installation/benchmarking.

 

I should prob get my laptop back in about 10 days or so...I'll def download it and report what I get...however, remember, I'm not going to have the Patriot wildfire anymore....it's going to be Dual 256GB Samsung 830s..(Non-RAID)..

 

Are there any known issues yet with the Samsung 830 series SSDs?

 

Bump... anyone ?

 

ha ha ...i learnt that lesson 2 years ago.

 

well mine working 24/7 (Only restart when i update OS/software). No issues yet. Daily write 15+gb large files and around 5gb small files.

 

Excuse my ignorance...but umm....why not??

 

Because you don't want to be the guinea pig, if things about the update are going to break anything you don't want to be the first one to find out.

 

Then why buy two?

If you're not comfortable with the spotty reviews, then buy one and try it out first for yourself.

Be sure and report back so the rest of us can learn from your experience.

Agreed. Not that I'm saying its slow, but that difference isn't worth the enormous premium compared to a mechanical HDD.

 

Ahh...I should've known...obvious and makes sense!

Like I said, I read a TON of great reviews and I think honestly it was just coincidence that I stumbled back into this thread and happened to read the last several pages where all I saw was several different people discussing problems..so I originally based my purchasing decision on all the other positive reviews I read first...honestly, I'm not all that worried....and I will be happy to post my experiences after I have some ownership hours under my belt....

 

So far everything is running fine with my 128gb. I really like that Samsung provides a ssd management tool like Intel.

Didn't have a good experience with Norton Ghost using its Copy Drive tool. When I started the 830 with the cloned image, Windows said it was a pirated copy (it's a factory image) and wouldn't even really load. Never any such problems with Acronis.

 

I guess I'll chime in with my slight problems of detecting the drive to transfer my files to via the included SATA to USB cable in Norton Ghost. Long story short, I didn't try as hard as I could have with Ghost in order for it to copy, but since my laptop was a week old I hadn't installed anything on there that it wouldn't take very long to install again. So I ended up just putting in my Win7 disc and installed everything on the SSD from scratch and then formatted my 500GB mechanical drive bare and just use that as my multimedia/games & applications that I don't care about boot times with - drive.

From what I've read on benchmarks about SSDs, it was the M4 that performed better but consumed more power, and the 830 that was slower but had the lowest power consumption (out of the top selling models I read about on here with the most positive results of reliability). I'm not sure how negligible the differences are in power consumption or performance, but I do know that since this is my first SSD upgrade over a mechanical, that the performance would be more than adequate no matter which one I bought.

 

Hi, I recommend fresh installation in new SSD, all clone software work fine but if you guys go for fresh installation that would be better. Don't be lazy.

@dsottum I think you mistaken somewhere there is little difference between what you read. The M4 consumed less power as compare to 830 and 830 beats M4 in performance, if you followed the thread from the first page then you can see how 256 GB 830 beats M4.

 

You're 100% correct NIGHTMARE, I had it backwards
Samsung's 830 Series solid-state drive - The Tech Report - Page 4
It shows better overall performance on the Samsung 830 and the M4 shows 30% less power consumption than the 830 at idle. ((doh!)) Oh well, 830 is clearly the best choice when looking at those tests.

 

Those of you who have the drive did it make a worthwhile difference when it come to boot times? I think I remember someone recently saying that they weren't satisfied with it in that regard?

I hope they were mistaken cuz thats one of the principle reasons I choose to buy an ssd.....

 

You shouldn't really be buying an SSD based on how fast your computer boots, unless you restart 20 times a day or something.

It was still faster than my Seagate 750gb HDD, if that helps.

 

Maybe 2 seconds faster than my Velociraptor.

All my programs opened much faster and I could read/write twice as fast.

 

Huh? In fact, thats typically the top reasons most people give--with program launch a close second.

Sure, read/write times are very important, but all of us share the dreaded experience of having to stare at the screen waiting... for the darn thing to boot.

 

It's depend on the person what he/she is looking for "Performance" or "Reliability". In my opinion I prefer reliability with better stability.

 

How is everyone's experience with power consumption with this drive? As far as I can tell (nothing out of the ordinary and it's a new Windows installation), it uses roughly the same as my Intel 310 mSATA 80gb when idling, but if the drive is accessed at all consumption spikes tremendously. This is in line with what reviews published, but I didn't think it would make such a difference for internet usage. If there's one thing I can't tolerate it's high power consumption. It will more than likely be returned. Too bad, since it's fast and was purchased on sale.

Crucial M4 power consumption looks good in reviews but if the LPM tweak is necessary that goes out the window. I think I will end up with another Intel drive.

 

how do you measure the power use?

 

They are also charging you for an extensive and excruciatingly thorough validation process. They are charging you, effectively, for a product you can rely on, which is really meaningful in the storage business. At least to me.

 

Samsung got my 830 today. Hopefully I will have one back by Thursday.

 

Started using my 830 today, everything seems great. Will run benches this weekend along with firmware updates.

 

I just ordered the 512 GB from Newegg so I should get it by Thursday.

 

How does this 120gb compare to the Intel 520 same size? I've read the comments and reviews for the larger 256gb hearing that the smaller size really doesn't perform nearly as well. That and I haven't been able to read up on long term reliability of the 520 because it is just too new, but since it is not all Intel parts any longer...

 

Lets not jump the gun here. They have a reputation for quality, but the reliability of THIS drive, still remains to be seen.

 

I am trying to properly align my partitions w/ this SSD drive. To do that I need the following 2 pieces of information

1) NAND Erase Block Size ?
2) NAND Page Size ?