T9600 Overclocking Thread

The programs I used did read wrong voltage. This therad is still relevant to T9600 overclocking, but in another way!

 

How did you get the voltage so high, CPU pinmod? Voltage regulator pinmod?

Funny that my SP9400 is stable at 3.06ghz with only 1.15V.

I would have expected around 3.6ghz @ 1.3V.

 

Actually I have no idea :S But what I noticed now is that my tempratures is lower with stock voltage. But I have not found a tool yet which can give me real-time readings.

 

Throttlestop is pretty good if you check the "more data" box.

 

I'll check that out right away. I can post a screenshot if you want to try to figure it out?

nvm. seems like voltages does not get applied, for some reason...

 

Yeah a screenshot would be good, by the way, check to see if "MobileCPU=1" is in the ThrottleStop.ini file.

Then you will get the correct voltage.

 

Here you go

 

So 2.8ghz is the stock frequency, what did you overclock it to?

 

For now, I just tried to incrase the voltage. I can't overclock my CPU for anything. Even at 3.00Ghz I get bluescreen.

 

crystalcpuid is reporting the wrong voltage, CPUz is right (1.175V).
1.175V should be just about enough for 3ghz, is it possible that your ram is the problem?

Are you using setfsb to overclock?

What PLL do you have?

You might have to do something like this:

Because if the sata clock is running on the same PLL as the CPU then you could get a BSOD when overclocking.

 

I have 8GB G.SKILL kit, which is orginally 1333Mhz modules. They run at 1066Mhz because of my CPU. I've again just tried 3Ghz, got bluescreen. No idea aobut the PLL. But SetFSB gives me chipset error. I use nTune to overclock.

 

So you have an nvidia chipset?

I don't know much about that.


If you can't troubleshoot this problem, maybe try a PLL pinmod, you might be able to get a 333mhz FSB.

 

Yes. I have a nVidia chipset. My T9600 is a CPU from Toshiba laptop. I wonder if Toshiba has done something with it to prevent overclocking, as they for example lock out BIOS so it is not edit, even readable for us etc.

EDIT: You did start something in me when you said it maybe could be my RAM modules. I've swapped in 4GB (2x2) sticks from my Qosmio, (1066) now I've have my OS running at 3.1Ghz but apps crash. Like ORTHOS crashes under stress testing. Do you think it could be my RAM modules? I don't think so but what is your option?

 

the option is flashing the RAM to slower timings with taiphoon burner

BTW its funny to start a thread 'overclocking XX CPU' when it really is not the CPU at all, its the chipset and PLL that matters.
But just since you did, I have an E8235 which is basically the same I have overclocked it to 3ghz but I have an m570tu which allows for 1150mhz FSB with setfsb.

I have yet to try 1333mhz with a downclocked RAM module, which would have it running at about 3.5ghz

 

Why do you want sower RAM modules? Also, feel free to tell what I can use my PLL for.. SetFSB gives me chipset error and I can basicly do the same with nVidia control panel as I'm running on a nVidia chipset.

 

Because when you overclock FSB, you are also overclocking RAM. So thats why sometimes the RAM is too unstable for the CPU overclock. Making the RAM slower is a compensation.

HEY, how are you doing all this with ntune and mcp77? can you explain a little more about it? I have mcp77 but with an AMD cpu on my gx630.
I tried installing ntune and it did not recognize my chipset.
You said you used the nvidia control panel, like the one the graphics drivers comes with? I couldn't find any options.

 

You must have nVidia system tools installed and have nForce chipset! It won't work with any other chipsets.

Back to my RAM: My RAM's are 1333Mhz modules, but downclock due to my CPU. So they should be overclockable?

 

No, probably not. Cause say they are cas9 @1333, they will be cas 7 or something @1066. Its weird. They'd have to still be cas9 @1066 to help you overclock.

I don't know what you mean exactly, I know I have mcp77 does that not necessarily mean I have an nforce motherboard?

 

Yep. A quick search on Google broght it up. You have the nForce chipset. Have you tried to install nVidia system tools?

Also don't forget that I tried this with 1066Mhz modules too, it did not work either.

 

Thank you! I can get 2.6ghz now

Yes, the 1066mhz modules wont help because they are cas 7 still. They are at the overclocking limit once you get up to 333mhz.
If you can flash to cas 9 then it will work unless your CPU needs more voltage. Or you can try to flash to ddr3-800, cas 6 or something.

 

LOL I assume this therad worked better for you then me
So, you mean that I 800Mhz modules will work better for overclocking?

 

yes exactly, cause it will be back at 1066 anyway if you are running 333mhz FSB. Its simple.
you cant buy them tho just go download taiphoon burner. oh theres a free version that lets your flash the EEPROM, but I forget what version it is.
I think the profile you need to flash them to is built in and its called ddr3-6400E. I will check up on that later...

I was looking at my RAM - and I think MSI is some how downclocking it for me! Its ddr2 pc2-6400, which is supposed to be cas 5, 400mhz.
but when I look at CPUz memory tab with FSB @ stock 200mhz, its at 338mhz! Its because I have this turbo button i guess, which does 30mhz FSB overclock. but that only brings it up to 383...
So i have to overclock my CPU 400mhz before my RAM actually runs at stock. OMG awesome thanks, yes this thread was a big success for me

 

I'll try that tomorrow with my other RAM sticks, or can I always flash back?

 

Oh, yea you only need to flash 1 stick. Just dont mess with the other one, you can save it if you mess something up. It will downclock and adjust to the other one I think.

 

Okay, I'll don't try that on my 8GB modules then. I have 1066Mhz sticks (2gbx4) so I simply does not loose something if it goes worng I my modules get unusable or something like that. But I must wait for that.

 

Wow, 1.35V? You're a brave person. I get to 3.518 GHz (11x multiplier) with 1.2250V, so with even 1.3V you should theoretically blow past 3.6+GHz on a 10.5x multiplier. I never played with my voltages because 3.5 is pretty snappy for me. There's a lot more heat and my cooling can't get much better at the moment.

 

No, that was with wrong reading. You able to change multiplier without crash?

 

Ohhh sorry I must have glossed over that part.

I can't change multipliers, I'm just upping the FSB. I have the equivalent of a T9800, 266*11x = 2.93GHz stock. It's just a half multiplier over the T9600 (actually, because I don't have IDA and you do, it's even closer than that sometimes).

 

Mine is at stock 267 FSB and it is at 10.5 multipliers.

I have runned with overclock @ 277 but it still keeps my multipliers at 10.5. I do not get this...

NVM. I just saw you had T9800!

But still, I do not get why my T9600 crashes with even a overclock of 200Mhz.

 

Your voltages are different. I run at 1.2250 which is a tremendous amount of voltage, so I can overclock further. My FSB gets to about 318 Mhz. Any further and I get increasing instability.

I am curious as to whether or not you could OC higher by disabling IDA. It would make sense to me if you could...

 

Hmm, here comes a question what does IDA mean?

Also, from what I've read in your signature, your laptop seems to be awsome+ do you got any pictures on NBR?

 

IDA is Intel Dynamic Acceleration. It overclocks a single core to an extra +0.5x multiplier when given a singlethreaded load. So sometimes when measuring your clockspeed, you might see it hit 2.93GHz momentarily, because one core is at 11x for a moment.

My theory is since voltage limits clockspeed, if you were to disable IDA (so both cores always worked at 10.5x always), both your cores could sustain a higher overclock for longer (since that one core is no longer running faster than the other). It's somewhat counterintuitive, but do you follow?

I really need to write up everything that I've done to this computer. It's really been amazing considering how much crap I've done to it. No pictures atm, but I'll be sure to include them when I do! It still looks like a typical G50vt-X1 with the fancy blue design but with a 15.4" screen and some lights disconnected. And a little temperamental fan controller I built.

Quick link for a 3rd party review:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/12/video-asus-g50vt-gaming-laptop-gets-benchmarked-reviewed/

 

I'll try that. I think I disable that on BIOS right (?)
But yeah, it makes sense

lol, you are like me, I have not done that much yet tou, but my laptop is only 2 or 3 weeks old xP

 

I dunno if all BIOSes support it, but if not then maybe you can do it using RMclock or Throttlestop. I don't know if Throttlestop can do it but RMclock can. Make sure you disable IDA first before OCing and then revert to stock clocks before enabling IDA again, or you'll bsod. You probably already know that kind of stuff though.

2-3 weeks old! And look at your sig with all these nice tweaks and OCs. No need to push the thing to its limit yet, it's just a kid! But congrats on your purchase!

 

Thank you!
Well, the first thing I did was to change the CPU, I powerd it up it was working as it should I sat down and tok it apart to change my CPU, when that was sucesfull I changed the RAM modules and my SSD. Did a clean install of my OS and enjoy my new laptop I have a lot of to-do-things, but I'm not sure if I'm going to use duct tape or not

 

Wow, nice. I think an SSD would be wonderful for the speed boost. Though right now I'm cramped on RAM usually (two minecraft servers+client+typical programs = lots of swap space used!).

Gorilla tape has been holding my new screen in place a year now. I think that was my first true modification, I couldn't take 768p on a 15.6" screen for work. It was really nice for games though.
I'm one of those people who swears by duct tape! haha

 

hehe

Back to the T9600, I have no option if BIOS for that. I'll check out RMclock now.

EDIT: I were not able to find it out by RMClock. But I sat my multilier to 11 which is in real world keep it at 10.5 which gives me 2.91Ghz all time. Will this do the trick? What do you think?


EDIT:
NeverMind, 3.0Ghz gave me a bluescreen right after I pressed apply button.

 

In RMclock there is an option under Advanced CPU Settings >> Engage Intel Dynamic Acceleration. Try unchecking that and see if it affects your OC.

Also I just checked your CPU voltage on Wikipedia. It looks like the T9600 is limited to 1.162 volts, which isn't a lot of room for OCing. The T9600 was the flagship processor for the Core 2 line once upon a time, before the T9800 and T9900 were introduced. It could be that you have a C0 stepping, which is a little less efficient under load than an E0 stepping and usually can't OC as far. Do you know the Sspec number of your CPU? It should be something like SLB47 or SLG9F.
You probably have a nice cold laptop but I think few extra hundredths of a volt would do your OCing a lot of good.

List of Intel Core 2 microprocessors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

I am interested to see your reasoning, would you please share.

On my P8400 the IDA Vcore is ~5.5% higher than the HFM Vcore and unless the scaling was really non-linear it should be by my reckoning more than enough. Is the T9600 is different in how it uses IDA, I don't know?

 

I have a T9600 on a Vaio FW 290. Has anyone figured out how to overclock it?
Almost everywhere I have looked nobody has figured out how to overclock it on the Vaio Fw.

 

This stinks or what?

 

Rmclock has not been updated in a long time.

So yeah, your CPU is probably not fully supported by RMclock.

Did you have any luck with throttlestop?

 

The only CPUs that are actually overclockable are X and Q series.

Everything else is overclocking the notebook which in turn overclocks the CPU. In this case (all the overclocking in this thread) it does not matter that the CPU is a t9600, it can be any CPU.

The only thing enabling us to overclock is the nvidia chipset which you do not have.

If you need to increase voltage, you can do it with a BSEL pinmod.

 

@najibkassis, if you really want to overclock, find the PLL and then you *might* be able to pinmod it to overclock.

 

I was able to 'disable' IDA, by that I mean my CPU was at 10.5 all time. But nothing more than that.

 

Have you tried OCing like this? My suspicion is you might be able to get past 2.9 GHz with the locked down 10.5 multiplier.

@Moral Hazard: I didn't realize rmclock was no longer updated. Thanks!

 

As I edited my post here, yes 3Ghz gave me a bluescreen!

 

Ohh I see.

I think your only option from here is to increase the voltage. That's hardware modification... and a bit beyond me.

 

That is also what I'm trying, do you think it is worth to flash my RAM modules and try?

 

I already run with increased Vcore but don't use BSEL. Overclocking laptop Core 2 Duo P8400 Mobile CPU

The point I was trying to make though was that you get to use a higher VID with IDA. If I can run at the HFM (8.5x) stable then the extra voltage that the IDA (9x) VID gives me is enough to run stable using the IDA frequency on both cores at the same time.