That's the luck of the draw. Your CPU is one of those which shows why Intel put the pre-assigned voltages as high as they are.
John
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John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator
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Yeah after i cleaned out my vents and undervolted i shaved off about 25C on my gpu and cpu as well.
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So much for nice and cool, the E8400 likes to cook compaired to my old one. On this new system, default is 1.1125V @ 72/70C Max load. I was still able to use the lowest setting available and remain stable at 1.0375V @ 70/67C. Not much of a difference at all. Never BSOD'd, just can't undervolt any more. Also don't have the SuperLFM for me, so I'm stuck idling at 2GHz still.
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Hmm, even by reducing the voltages from 1.25V to 1.17 it only took 5C off the max CPU load. It hits 74C on a constant basis
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Darn, so the lowest the CPU can go is 1 Ghz and still not good enough.
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whats the temps without uv'ing?
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Hi all. I would like to share my undervolt experience here. I want to find out if undervolt would give longer battery life, so I use Kill A Watt for watt measurement.
Since Im still new at undervolting, if any of you find my info not accurate, please correct me.
Test machine
Compaq F762NR
AMD Dual Core TK-57 1.90 GHz
3 G ram
WD 120 HD
OS Vista SP 1
DVD R/W Rom
I use Orthos for testing
At default setting, 1.90 GHz at 1.075v = 52 watt full load on both cpu.
Undervolt setting, 1.90 GHz at .9000v = 39 watt full load on both cpu.
UnderClock and Undervolt setting, 1.00 GHz at .7125v = 24 watt full load on both cpu
Starting up the notebook = 60 to 45 watt.
No different in watt disabling the DVD Rom.
Notebook in sleep mode = 1 to 0 watt.
Adjust screen brightness 30% at a time = 2 to 3 watt increase.
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thank you for that information. It is somewhat useful reference.
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This T7300 is really awesome cpu, clocked and undervolted
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What exactly should that screen tell us?
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he managed to overclock to 2.5ghz while still only using 1.075v
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No way,my T7500 needs at least 1.17V to go to 2.5
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Awesome overclock mirage... specially when it only reaches 72c
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I`m afraid to run Orthos, the thing has not been cleaned and AS5 was not around 2.5 years ago.
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How did you mange to overclock? Does ur laptop have such a feature built in or what?
To better compare, ive come up with an idea: Post ur UVI (Undervolting Index) = ( MHZ/mV ) * 100
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You sure you got that right?
For the Nx9420 : (1667/1170)*100=142
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Ur missing a zero, 1.170V aint 1170, but 1170 0 mV
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Thanks for inviting me in this post Flipfire, very well explained everything, congrats.
So, this is my achievement so far:
I disable more intermediate clocks, because I see they dont uses frecuenly, only changes between the lowest and the higer clocks. I lower the SuperLFM from 8x to 6x, (800 mhz to 600 mhz, like 1.7 Dothan), doing that at the same voltage (0.9v) it gives me 10 minutes of battery life.
My only doubt, I can't get voltages lower than 0.9v, I was expecting lower the minimum clock for enhance the battery life, like I done in a Pentium-M. I see some people getting 0.85v or less in their options, it is by the Santa Rosa platform that allow lower voltages?
Regards.
PS: There is any overclocking guide for this mobile processors?, I could get a little pump too, when I look the post of the T7300, my hands tickles for mhz...Last edited by a moderator: May 7, 2015 -
It`s in the CPU.
My lowest if 0.95 V for example, but mine is a T7500.
Higher the CPU frequency, higher the minimum voltage required.
For OCing the CPU : http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=249470 , this is Audigy`s app that auto-OCes the CPu.
Or manually, using SetFSB .
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I've noticed that for some reason RMClock isn't saving it's settings when I reboot. I choose to apply PoD settings on startup>Apply, selected Run at Windows Startup>Apply (in settings), and Apply Settings at Startup>Apply (in Advanced CPU Settings). Even still, when I reboot it doesn't start automatically, and all settings and voltages reset. Is that something a simple re-install would fix?
I've also noticed that RMClock reads about 10C lower than HW Monitor and PC Wizard 08 now, at any voltage and load. It's an E8400, if that helps. When I first started the UV'ing, all programs reported the same temps. Even after UV, it's still reading 68-70C in HW Monitor under load, which is barely any change from normal (1.1125V to 1.0375V change). Does that sound normal for this proc? -
Try making it run via Startup Folder.
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Wow, 600Mhz increase, and at 1.17? Hmm. Your T7300 is very nice in this departement,my T7500 ,OCed to 2.5 crashed at 1.17V
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Thanks for a great guide! +repped
My highest temp of 83 degrees C (!) @ 1.25V went down to a high of 66 degrees C @ 0.95V.
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I have a old laptop that I'm trying all this out on.. Its a Compaq with a AMD 20F42
I cant wait for my XPS 1530!!:
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I think RMclock shows the right temps. Download Coretemp to verify.
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I'm the other way around, RM CLock is showing the false temp. Either that, or Coretemp is also not running right, along with HW Monitor.
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Three is a charm, try SpeedFan
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Speed Fan, Core Temp and RM Clock all show the same for me, So.. HW Monitor was the wrong temp. I suppose it could be different for everyone.
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RMClock and Hwmonitor and core temp all show similar temps, 1-3C appart max.
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Hey. Just wondering if i undervolted my Cpu correctly. I have a Intel Core 2 Duo, Dv2000t HP Pavillion. I havent fully stressed tested my laptop but I will by today. Thanks for the great guide and help
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I think the problem with HW Monitor might be that mine only displays whats labeled as'' THRM'' Doesnt display the core itself, Yet the other programs display the core. Whats THRM? Why doesn't it display the core.
Just a question for future reference to if you don't mind, What is a average ''SAFE'' Temp for a core to reach?
Also, When using ORTHOS to test, There is a few test types to choose from, Which it the best to use?
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Just got my T8300 today and it's already way better than my T5450. Default temps before AS5 were about 47C at lowest, now I'm at 42C lowest. But that'll get better once the AS5 sets in and I can undervolt. Be back later.
EDIT: need to update my sig!
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Right now, I'm just messing around, Learning about everything with a older Compaq.. With a 1.6 GHz AMD Turion64
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Okay for the life of me I cannot get RMclock to work with Vista 64 any suggestions?
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Did you read the first page? ... theres special instructions for vistax64 due to the the signed drivers
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Well this is what I did I saved RMclock to my desktop then saved the signed driver to my desktop and attempted to simply add it to the RMclock folder.
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the signed drivers should work..... did you overwrite the old ones?
heres the old, astiv.exe guide:
RMclock for 64bit users
Vista x64 requires digitally signed drivers in order for RMclock to run. Unfortunately, RMclock still hasnt been able to acquire this for over a year now. I believe they will be charging $10 for it when they release the 64bit version. Good news though, there is a program called Astiv. It is a driver loader which can bypass the signed driver requirement which lets RMclock run near perfect.
The link to the guide is here (Credit/Rep to Meatloaf13). Just follow exactly as written and all should go well
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=220543
This method will also work if you want to bypass the driver signing req. for other programs. You will have to modify the script a little though.
To make it run on startup you will need to use Task Scheduler to run RMclock at log in, the standard startup launcher wont work due to the driver sign checking. Heres how:
1) Click on the Start orb > Search for Task Scheduler > Open it.
2) On the right hand side click Create Basic Task > Name it RMClock > Write undervolting on the description
3) On the Trigger Task page mark the "When I Log On" button > Click Next
4) Now it asks for an Action > Mark "Start a Program" button > Click Next
5) It will now ask which program you wanna launch > Click Browse and find filename.vbs (which was created on the bypass guide above)
6) Click next then Finish! It will now launch at startup, you will see cmd prompt screens flash at startup
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You should trick Vista to bypass driver signing(driver signing keeps Vista from loading drivers that are NOT verified by Microsoft). Apparently this tool do that by turn this feature off.
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flipfire I think after some vista updates this method doesn't work anymore.
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Alright you guys rock!!!!! I got it working Rep for all!
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atthegates said: ↑flipfire I think after some vista updates this method doesn't work anymore.Click to expand...
We only found the signed drivers like last week.. before then i was using the astiv bypass and i had the latest windows updates
EDIT oh and im still currently using astiv bypassing for Rivatuner64
The "Undervolting" Guide
Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by flipfire, Apr 1, 2008.