The Mighty Clevo P870DM-G "Phoenix" Gets an 8700K and GTX 1080 Upgrade

This is my biggest issue with the newer clevo mxm cards. The cards themself don't necessarily need to have the extended power connector, it's mostly possible through the GPU slot, but they do it anyways. Speaking of which, I wonder if it's possible to create a cable that feeds mxm power directly to that port eliminating the need for specific cabling.

 

Are you asking where I pulled 3.3V from on the board? I grabbed it from a jumper, PJ67 iirc. I can verify later.

 

I do appreciate the mention, but trust me, a legend I am not. Seeing my name mentioned next to @Mr. Fox @Prema @Khenglish @tanzmeister @Ted@HIDevolution @Donald@HIDevolution made me chuckle. I'm more of a moral support type of guy. It was only a year and a half ago I was considering suicide because I thought I bricked my machine. Prema talked me off the cliff, he said "shut it off, unplug it, plug it back in and you'll be fine" he was right, no need to jump. I have no clue how these guys do what they do. But again thanks for the mention and it's definitely an awesome mod.

 

As far as I'm concerned, useless mod...
here are the results of my Clevo p775dm3-g:

Without Overclock gpu:
Ambient temperature 21.8 ° C
80% fan speed



With Overclock:
Ambient temperature 21.8 ° C
80% fan speed
+130 mhz core
+100 mhz memory

 

Why is that? Similar results in Heaven as the mod, am I missing something?

 

These are preliminary results from a heavily modded P870DM. Those that are complaining about the early results or comparing them to BGA, need to either do it themselves or truly show what their machines are capable of. @Mr. Fox, I can't wait to see what this beast does when you've finished your mods.

 

Well duh, you already have a 1080 in your machine.

Interesting note however, you actually have worse minimums.

 

considers that my pc has not been modified, it is original and has made those temperatures of max 79 ° C

 

First, I owned that same machine you are touting. It had some of the worse temps of any DTR I've ever owned when both the CPU/GPU are OC'ed. What were you running your CPU at during those benchmarks? Were they 4.7Ghz?

 

@Frank_84

This entire project has evolved and I think you're missing the point. It originally started as an idea, my memory is shot but I believe the original plan was to see if an MSI 1080 would work in the original P870DM because many people felt like they got screwed when this machine was unable to use the new GPUs. The best GPU for the DM unit at the time was an MSI 1070 conversion. At first, I was thinking maybe get MSI 1080s with SLI, I'm sure Mr Fox would have used them if they were available but unfortunately they cost a ton of money. A full sized Clevo 1080 was generously donated to the cause, so plans changed and that was used for the mod. There are many ideas for this machine. Possibly trying to get an 8700K to work in it, but you need an 8700K to try it out, they're not free. The whole purpose of this mod was to see if it was do-able and the boys came through in fine fashion. As far as the bench-marks, there will be many more with adjustments etc. There is also a ton of work into this modded machine. These guys aren't sitting around all day doing nothing, this was done on spare time. It's not a useless mod. Especially if you can't afford a new machine.

 

It's a reply from a clear novice. He and others like him have no clue the amount of time, effort, expertise and money that goes into projects like these. That's why he and others missed the point. They will continue to argue their opinion, even though those opinions are derived from a lack of experience. This is an amazing project and I hope Mr. Fox isn't discouraged due to a few uninformed folk.

 

Residing east of the Mississippi River in the US, I've never crossed paths with @Mr. Fox. However, I feel pretty safe to say it would take a whole lot to discourage or change this man's mind.

 

Here is the AC unit I have been using for heavy duty cooling on overclocked laptops since 2012.


I do not own ROTR or Wildlands. When their prices drop from $59 to around $15-20 I will most likely buy them only for their built-in benchmarks. (I'm not particularly fond of the Tomb Raider franchise.)

But, if the FFXV benchmark tool is free like the previous benchmarks were, I will do that later this week. I am out on business meetings part of the week and will take time to do it for you once I have a little more free time.

If someone knows where I can download the chapters of Witcher 3 so I do not have to play it long enough to reach the chapter that @Danishblunt wants to see an example of, let me know and I will do that later on when I have more time as well.

 

Yeah thats a bit different to what I thought lol. The benchmark is free, looking forward to see the power.

 

I think the issue here is the lack of understanding. The P870DM-G cannot accept a GTX 1080 in its original state. A GTX 1080 upgrade would, by far, be the best option (better machine and the GPU upgrade would be more affordable) for those that already own the superior P870DM-G. Unfortunately, it is absurdly complicated due to intentional--unnecessary and totally retarded--MXM slot electrical design changes made by Clevo. The best it could do without extreme modifications was 200W Clevo GTX 980 or dual 180W MSI GTX 980 in SLI, or MSI 1070 (which is not nearly as good as 1080). I also built my own heat sink since you cannot buy one that fits, so that alone is a pretty major accomplishment in and of itself. This is a proof of concept project and a nasty-finger salute to honor the skanky ODMs that intentionally try to screw us with proprietary idiocy that interferes with simple upgrades. They're all becoming experts at burning calories on that two-bit crook sort of bull crap rather than focusing their efforts on building more amazing products.

Thanks, bro. It will be fun to see how far I can push the beast. Even if we stopped right here, right now, it soundly defeats anything that was dreamed possible with the P870DM-G before.

Exactly. Thanks again for the major part you played in making it possible. It never would have happened without your help.

Not at all. I am not easily swayed, and I am very used to dealing with the uninformed and misinformed. In fact, I have come to expect it as the norm. Not just here... it's a regular part of my day job as well.

The only major difference between an ignoramus and a subject matter expert is the former doesn't know what he doesn't know, and the latter knows a lot about something that he has been told or learned. In fact, it's even safe to say that were are all ignorant about many things. Knowledge and information are powerful, even when they are possessed by idiots. It is also possible to possess valuable information without much intelligence or the ability to apply it correctly.

 

That is so overkill and i like it hahahahahahahaah.

It's not a chapter, it's just a city named novigrad. You just travel there and then walk around, literally nothing else.



No combat, just walking. Everyhting maxed including hairworks. Only thing you don't max is sharpening because it doesn't effect the performance at all and makes the game look weird.

 

Ok, I will explore how that works tomorrow when I get home from my business meetings. If I can just jump over there to Novigrad on the map I will do it.

 

loved the mod @Mr. Fox and @Prema !

Great team work and amazing amazing job!!! I'm open mouthed with it! you guys are awesome!

Go Premamod Team

 

I cannot find a way to go to directly to Novigrad from the world map to see how things play there as requested. From what I can read on the web, you have to play the game for a while, complete some tasks and jump through hoops to get there, so I'm not going to do that. If someone knows a way I can go directly to Novigrad without having to play through the game, let me know and I will do it.

 

Download a completed save file and use a fast travel point to novigrad.

 

@Mobius 1 Why Witcher 3 is too intensive on newer hardware eventhough its old?
I always use VSYNC because my BGA hardly manages 60 fps at High/ultra.

 

Bad optimization maybe?

Witcher 3 released around the time maxwell was out, so the game should run pretty well on your GTX9x series mobile card.

 

I tried that and either I am doing it wrong or it does not work. The saved files also do not show up in the in-game list. I wasted a lot of time trying to figure it out.

 

Did you download them from nexus?

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/categories/21/

 

I am yet to reach level 70. I'm at level 52 even after completing all Quests(HoS,B&W) I have few unknown areas in Skellige. Dis you reach lvl 70 @Mobius 1 ?

 

Downnload a savefile, travel there, done.

Not a hard concept mate...

\Documents\The Witcher 3\gamesaves , put savefiles in, load ingame, travel to novigrad. ez.

 

Nice work!

Did you lap the heatsink after all the soldering was done?

 

Yes.

Nolifed Witcher 3 the moment it came out. Haven't played the expansions.

 

Thanks. No, I have not lapped anything yet. I have not had much spare time lately, but I will probably do it soon. Temps are good enough to not have to worry about it, but lower temps are always a good thing.

No, I got them from another place. Most of what I am reading suggests you cannot just load Novigrad whenever you feel like it. Appears you have to play through some stuff and find a fast travel point or something silly like that and I am not interest in doing that. I find this game and others like it as boring as watching paint dry. Way too slow and monotonous. I don't want to solve puzzles and talk to AI characters. I want to non-stop run, jump, shoot and blow stuff up in first-person mode, LOL. As soon as the action stops, I have about a minute worth of tolerance for the boring crap before I start hating the game. And, skipping over the boring crap is a pain in the ass on this title. You cannot even instantly exit the game half the time.

 

That's strange. I tried the save file from nexus on my game install and it worked.

I actually really enjoyed the story of witcher 3, and didn't think it was slow.

Maybe I play so much adult visual novels I'm quite used to slow paced story driven games.

 

That is what I did. I am guessing by travel there you mean walk or ride a horse and check the map while you are wasting time getting there, or locate a fast travel point. Not that hard, no. But, I've wasted a lot of time farting around with it and still haven't figured out how to get there. Probably would be a lot easier if I enjoyed playing it and did not have a negative attitude toward it.

 

Can confirm. It's nothing more than paste file, load, you done.

No, you fasttravel there, done. You get teleported right there.

 

That is very likely. I do not enjoy any strategy games or heavy storyline driven games. Only run and gun, mostly FPS.

 

Ok I will look one more time. Maybe the save files I downloaded are not being read by the game or something.

 

Well, the one I tried from Nexus is there but won't load because I do not have DLC needed to load the checkpoint.

 

I'm asking because I'm a bit curious as well if the heatsink plate got twisted/bent due to the soldering, not so much due to the heat, but due to being clamped and then the stresses that are generated when the solder(and the heatpipes) cool down and it becomes a nice solid heatsink.

 

All of the pads seem to fit correctly and the temps are about the same as what I have seen on the P870's using GTX 1080 without a vapor chamber heat sink. The vapor chamber cannot be modded to fit the DM-G. I haven't checked the core fit with pressure sensitive film yet, but the spread of thermal paste looks proper.

 

OK, I think I'm done burning calories on this. I have tried about 6 different saves and all require DLC that I am not willing to buy except for one save file. The one save file that seems to work only has Geralt's head. His body is invisible using that save file and changing none of the graphics settings make his body visible. I'm guessing it must require a Nexus mod that I don't have. Will have to pass on this one because I am not willing to spend any more time trying to figure it out since this is a game I that am not interested in playing. If someone has a one and done solution or they can tell me specifically what to do (like go here, do this, click this) and it doesn't require any time or effort, I'm still willing to entertain the idea for the sake of a quick benching exercise.

If you can elaborate on that and the save file I have download will let me do it, which I believe it may, I would be glad to run the benchmark for you. I do not know if it would be an accurate representation of performance with Geralt being invisible except for his head, LOL. He is not invisible unless I load that save file.

If I load the world map and find Novigrad I cannot jump there or to any other spot on the map. I see a message along the lines that I cannot fast travel from here and I need to find a fast travel signpost. I don't know what a "fast travel signpost" is or where to find one.

 

I've always hated working with other people's save files. Always have to find the one with the same dlc unlocked or your screwed.

Only time I even bothered was with mass effect series to remake a save from another machine I no longer had and that had a full GUI for just that.

 

It is the genre and play style that I do not enjoy. Too much gathering inventory, AI dialogue, etc. The only thing I like to collect in a game is ammo and weapons so I can use them up as fast as possible. If I have to craft things, solve puzzles, select menu items to have a conversation with the AI, follow a story, etc. then I'm good for about 5 minutes before I am ready to find something more exciting to do with my free time. I am even like this with movies for the most part. Once in a great while I like a movie with a good story, but most of the time they put me to sleep unless there is more action than story/plot.

I've never tried it before. The games I enjoy playing I back up my save files so I can use them on my own computers (or restore them if they get deleted).

 

That's a great upgrade

 

@Ryan Russ - Wildlands is on sale now within my acceptable price range for games. I grabbed the Wildlands Deluxe Edition for $23, so I will be able to bench that.

 

Dang. I haven't even launched this game yet and I have already decided that it is a worthless piece of crap, LOL. I have to enable Digi-Nazi filth for this piece of trash to launch. The stupid imbeciles that make stuff this way really suck. I'll run the benchmark, then uninstall it.

 

@Ryan Russ - here's what you wanted to see, bro.

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In 20/20 hindsight, I wish I would have saved the $23 now. Wildlands sucks. I forced myself to play it a couple of hours last night to give it a fair shake before I re-enable Driver Signature Enforcement and uninstall it. Not my cup of tea. But, it's a fairly decent GPU-only benchmark. It does not seem to stress the CPU much at all. Probably would run fine with a crappy smartphone CPU or an antique Core2 Duo.

 

Before people request it so you're warned. PubG does the same, if you have driver sig. off it will also not launch.

 

Thank you for mentioning that. I really appreciate it. I wish I would have known that about Wildlands and I never would have purchased it. PUBG is popular, but now that I know that it is bundled with cancer I will never even entertain the idea. The game developers need to plaster this in all of their advertisements and make you click "I agree" on a disclosure before accepting your payment when they are going to Trojan filth like this in their products. If it were optional, like Punk Buster, it would not be nearly as bad.

 

Pubg isn't worth benching anyways.

 

PUBG's optimization can simply be described as trying to install brakes on a car that already has its wheels bolted on

 

Looking good. FFXV is a good representative benchmark lol