The ThrottleStop Guide

Hi @unclewebb, I have been using your fantastic program and am getting the hang of using it rather than xtu. I just have a quick question and was wondering if you offer some advice. I have a 6700k with a well known unlocked bios running. I have set all my amps watts to a higher level, disabled everything apart fromSpeedstep and everything is running fine in cpu benchmarks. But some software programs and games are causing the non turbo processor speed to fluctuate. Is there anyway I can force it to always run in turbo mode?

Cheers Jim

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Hi there,

I have i7-6600U. I can test whatever you like

 

Does Core M CPU (5y10c) support c8/c9/c10 states ?
There are bios settings for that, but it looks no work, cause 80% time at c7 state.

@unclewebb could you please send new version for testing (cube i7 tablet device) ?
[email protected]

 

Maybe. When your CPU is idle, open up the C States window and post an image of that. Are you using any of these C States? Can you also post an image of ThrottleStop as well as an image of the TPL window and the FIVR window?

Are you seeing these fluctuations in ThrottleStop or in some other monitoring software? If you are running HWiNFO or CPU-Z or XTU or etc, turn them all off and only run TS with the Log File option checked. Go use whatever software or games that are creating these problems and then when you are done, exit ThrottleStop and you will have a log of the CPU multiplier and temps so I can have a look at that too. When trying to understand or solve a problem, lots of data makes me happy.

Another thing to keep in mind is that after your computer boots up, it will use whatever settings you set in the bios. As soon as you start ThrottleStop, it is going to switch the CPU to whatever settings you have saved in ThrottleStop. This can be a little confusing at first. If you plan to use TS all the time then use it to set your final overclock and voltage settings.

Check your message box and we will find out if C8 / C9 and C10 are being used.

 

c8/9/10 not wotking for core m 5y10
had try diffrent bios setting but dosnt any change.



Overall idle power consumption for tablet is around 5w. But Package power shows 0.7-1.2w. That strange.

 

Thanks for the quick reply!! I'm away at the moment. As soon as I get home (a few days) I'll get some pics up and hopefully find out what causing this issue.

Jim

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I wait after boot for one minute to start throttlestop. I unchecked taskbar. And checked minimize on close and start minimized. But Throttle Stop won't go to notification tray

I'm on Windows 10 Anniversary Update.

 

There are 2 problems. The manufacturer of your tablet is blocking the Package C States because in the bios, they set this Limit to C1. That means your CPU will consume more power than it needs to when idle and this will also mean less battery run time. Intel designed the Package C States to save power but the manufacturer of your tablet is not using these features. That means their engineers are dumb. Another dumb thing they did was they set the Lock bit on that register. This means you cannot change this register by using ThrottleStop. The manufacturer would need to release a new bios to fix this problem. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

CPU power consumption reported by software is not accurate. Intel only uses this number to control the Turbo Boost feature. That means the CPU Package Power reported by software cannot be compared to your overall power consumption.

Try doing this.

http://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-clean-notification-area-icon-cache

 

I want to use this on my New Alienware 15's 6700HQ, but it seems even though I have the "set multiplier" set to 12, it doesn't go above 9. I tried many different C0% ranging from 1-40 and it just still won't go above or below 9. Any reason? Trying to undervolt this laptop. Thanks for any info

 

There are a wide variety of settings that can prevent a CPU from working correctly. It is going to be a lot easier for both of us if you can post some screenshots of TS so I can see how you have the program setup and what sort of problems you are having. How about a screenshot of the main TS screen, the TPL window and the FIVR window. Whether your problem is with the CPU loaded or idle, include screenshots of that situation so I can have a look.

 

I was following a guide from reddit that was meant for this processor, but it never went above the 9x multiplier

 

At the bottom of the main screen is "turn on" - you need to click that to turn TS on. Then save it so it will stay on.

J

 

Oh yeah I know, I turned it off and was messing with the Intel XTU or w/e it was haha

 

Your TPL screenshot is blank so I cannot see any data but I did notice a few problems. You have Power Saver checked, Disable Turbo is checked and so is BD PROCHOT. Why are any of these checked? If some guide told you to do that, I would find a better guide. For maximum performance, none of those should be checked.

The other problem is that in image 3.png, it shows that the Non Turbo Ratio is set to 26 and this setting is locked? Do you remember if you did that or was it like that when you first ran ThrottleStop? The ThrottleStop Set Multiplier feature will not work correctly unless the Non Turbo Ratio is set to 0. Once this register is locked, there is no way to unlock it unless you reboot. After rebooting, you will need to delete the ThrottleStop.INI configuration file before running ThrottleStop or it will try to lock this register again and again. If your bios is locking this register then you will not be able to use the Set Multiplier feature.

On a 6th Gen CPU like you have, what are you trying to do? If I was trying to see a low multiplier when the CPU was lightly loaded, I would not be using Set Multiplier. This is an old school method. You will probably find that the new Speed Shift feature in the TPL window is a much better way to control your CPU so you can get it running how you want it to run. Tell me what your goals are so I can recommend the appropriate settings to accomplish that.

 

Wow can't believe I made that mistake with the TPL. Well, Basically I only touched stuff in the main screen, FIVR and the options. I usually use BIOS for overclocking but this is a laptop. I am trying to undervolt mostly, 2 different states. 1 for a low power usage battery setting and one for when I am connected to AC. It seems like the 6700HQ and be undervolted by about 150 on the cache and core and about 50 on the iGPU. I've never even heard of throttlestop until a few days ago and this program is pretty confusing compared to a BIOS haha (at least imo)

 

I saw in your screenshot that you have system agent & iGPU undervolted by different amounts.

Are you finding that when you adjust the system agent & iGPU independently that anything happens?

I ask because after experimenting I found that adjusting the system agent offset alone does nothing, and adjusting iGPU offset alone does nothing.
I can literally max out either one of those at -1000mV and not crash. Only when those two are offset together do I actually see any change in power consumption (and this only seems to change the intel GPU's power use, as reported in software).

Is that the case for you? Do you crash when undervolting either the system agent or iGPU while leaving the other at default?
Have you noticed that power consumption actually changes when only undervolting either of those and leaving the other at default?

If it's the case for you that system agent & iGPU offsets actually do unique and different things then that is totally different to how my 6700HQ behaves. It only responds when I undervolt both at the same time. (Also, do you notice that analog IO voltage even does anything? I can literally max mine out a -1000mV and nothing happens)

FWIW, I found with over 340 hours of testing that my iGPU was stable at -140mV. Originally I was dialing in undervolts less than -65mV from the iGPU but I discovered that this was because my CPU undervolt was actually unstable. The CPU undervolt alone didn't seem to be causing BSODs but when my iGPU was simultaneously undervolted I the GPU driver started crashing. Eventually by backing off the CPU undervolt from -171.9 to -165 I was able to take the iGPU undervolt from -65 to -140 (and by iGPU undervolt i mean system agent & iGPU)

 

I didn't do much testing at all. Those are random numbers I plugged in based on what I seen others were achieving . As for the things you said could put to -1000, Idk what they do. But before I even touched those , I still couldn't get the multiplier above 9 if all that was at stock. Cuz originally I didn't bother editing any of it once the multiplier went unchanged but I figured it wasn't working anyway so I started messing with voltages and whatnot.

Edit: hey if you aren't busy and get a chance, could I copy your settings and see if works ? Of course I'd lower the voltages a bit to ensure I don't fit a instant bsod

 

To be clear the point I was trying to make was that
System agent & iGPU can only be set to -1V one at a time - and the only reason why you probably wont crash is because setting either one of those independently doesn't seem to actually change any voltages. Once you undervolt system agent & iGPU together, though - then it seems to actually reduce the iGPU's voltage by the lesser undervolt of the two.

Here are my settings, the only thing that's not default are the voltage offsets


I should note for anyone passing by that this undervolt was for an intel skylake i7-6700HQ.
It is the result of testing for over 340 380 hours, and of course your mileage will vary.

With these settings I am seeing about 300mW savings at idle and a couple of watts saved at load. (If you are using windows default settings for balanced/high performance and not keeping clocks artificially capped to 2.2GHz like I am, then at load you will see even more savings)

There are some pretty remarkable temperature drops too.
I haven't been very scientific about tracking temps but in light use this config seems to be dropping my temps by up to 4C. Definitely worth trying.

 

Hi Unclewebb,

As promised the lots of data to make you happy. The log file is from running Heaven benchmark.


Jim

 

After upgrading from 8.10 to 8.30, I have a problem. Whenever I alt-tab out of a fullscreen application, throttlestop un-minimizes itself. I have throttlestop set to hide when minimize. When I click minimize, throttelstop hides as normal. I have tried deleting my throttlestop folder and re-downloading/extracting. Any thoughts?

 

Not quite sure what caused this but a couple of other people also noticed this problem. The good news is that I came up with a fix that seems to be working. I will send you a message with a download link for TS 8.35.

@benson881 - The Heaven benchmark is a very leisurely load for an Intel 4 core CPU with hyper threading. For a lot of that bench, it is only keeping 1 of your 8 threads occupied. When there is an actual load on your CPU, the multi is nice and steady. Here's an example from your log.

Code:

2016-11-03  12:51:09  42.00   29.0  100.0  100.0        0   68   1.1516   33.2
2016-11-03  12:51:10  42.00   27.9  100.0  100.0        0   66   1.1560   33.2
2016-11-03  12:51:11  42.00   27.9  100.0  100.0        0   61   1.1555   33.2
2016-11-03  12:51:12  42.00   28.1  100.0  100.0        0   66   1.1525   32.9
2016-11-03  12:51:13  42.00   28.2  100.0  100.0        0   70   1.1443   33.3

A perfect 42.00 multiplier. If you want to see that number more often, you would need to disable all of the C States. When this benchmark is running, 7 of your 8 threads are going to be spending almost all of their time in the low power C7 state because they have nothing to do. Many apps / games do not come close to fully loading a Core i7. The C States save power and reduce heat output which is not a bad thing, especially in a laptop. If you want a clean looking multi and none of this power saving stuff, either disable all of the C States in the bios if you have that option or you can also disable your C States by editing the registry. One quick change and a reboot will get rid of the C States. Fine for benching but for most users, a hot laptop with the fan whirling away is not what laptop owners want. Let me know if you need the registry hack if you want to do some testing.

Your CPU is only using the Package C2 state which is the same as my Skylake desktop. I just remembered that my Skylake testing computer is only using Windows 7. Switching to Windows 10 might uncover some of the deeper C States like Package C8.

 

Thanks for the fix. I also have another bug to report. I've experienced it with both 8.30 and 8.35 (but never with 8.10, despite using it for a long time on multiple computers).

Here is what happens. I open throttlestop for the first time. I uncheck "task bar", and check both "minimize on close" and "start minimized checked." I save. Afterward, minimizing and x-ing throttlestop both make it minimize but not disappear from the task bar, even though throttlestop is not pinned. Right clicking on throttlestop and selecting close will minimize throttlestop but not make it disappear from the task bar. I cannot exit throttlestop except through the task manager. Then, after I exit throttlestop and restart it, I cannot see a throttlestop window/icon anywhere (it is in neither the task bar nor the notification area). (It is running, however.) "No notification area icon" is unchecked this whole time. To make it show up again, I need to go into the .ini and set TaskBar=1, which brings me back to the earlier stage of the bug (where Throttlestop shows up but does not leave the task bar).

With 8.30, I was able to resolve this bug somehow. I don't remember exactly what I did, but I remember I tried all of the following: deleting the .ini, redownloading throttlestop, changing the order in which I (un)check those three boxes.

EDIT: The notification area cleaner seems to have solved the problem (sort of). It seems as if the first version of throttlestop that I run will show up properly in the notification area, but then if I run another one I get a problem. So if I run 8.30 (8.35) and then exit and run 8.35 (8.30), the first one will run fine but the second will have the icon issue.

Also, if when you first open throttlestop your voltage offset is > |125mv|, then when you go to the offset voltage section the setting will be preset to |125mv| rather than your actual offset.

 

where can I get 8.35 from?

 

Thanks for the reply. I'm already using Windows 10 at the moment. I'm gonna do a other test if that's OK. Should hopefully give you some more data. Reference the above code. I believe that's when I actually finished the test.
I shall post some more results up soon.

Jim

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Regarding

My experience (also on a 6700hq) is somewhat similar. Changing iGPU voltage alone does nothing. Only when system agent is also changed is there a change in iGPU voltage/power consumption. But changing system agent alone DOES do something.

 

@Squigglyboo - I just noticed your Edit. If anyone ever has any issues, start by cleaning the Windows Notification Area Icon Cache.

http://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-clean-notification-area-icon-cache

Anytime you switch TS versions, do that procedure. If you decide to switch back to TS 8.30, you will need to do this again.

I avoid using the Task Manager to exit ThrottleStop and I would also avoid using taskkill in a script to kill ThrottleStop. Doing this prevents ThrottleStop from cleaning up after itself and some settings in the INI file might not be saved correctly when you exit this way. If you are using the "Minimize on Close" option and ThrottleStop is already minimized to the task bar, you will need to open up ThrottleStop if you want to exit. I always have ThrottleStop sitting on the opposite side in the Notification Area so I can exit ThrottleStop by doing a right mouse click on that icon and selecting the Exit menu option. When ThrottleStop is open, you should be able to push the ESC key on the keyboard or if you right click on the ThrottleStop GUI, there is also an Exit menu option there that works when you are using the Minimize on Close option. I will look into this problem you found to see if I can create an easier exit option when a person is not using the notification area icon.

I was not planning to do a general release of that version. If you ever hear about one of these versions and you want to do some testing, just send me a message. I would send you a download link but I think you disabled Conversations.

 

Oh I was planning on publishing it on majorgeeks.com but if you wanna send it to me sure, wouldn't hurt to test

 

question?
if i turn on throttlestop and then press exit , i dont see it in my notifications area.
Does that mean it's not working properly?

 

In the Options window, did you check off Minimize on Close? If this is not checked, ThrottleStop should exit when you click on the X exit gadget in the top right corner of ThrottleStop.

If Minimize on Close is checked, ThrottleStop should either minimize to the Task Bar or it should minimize to the Notification Area. If you have any issues with the Notification Area, exit ThrottleStop and clean the icon cache.

http://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-clean-notification-area-icon-cache

 

Hi unclewebb,

i would like to test TS 8.35 with C7+ Package States on Pentium G4400 and i5-6200U.
Would you please send me a download link?
Thanks alot,
Mike

 

@Mike6374 - As a new NBR member, I don't think you can send or accept messages yet. You will have to go to the About box of ThrottleStop and send me an email.

 

...i will do that.
Thanks,
Mike

Update: Still searching the about box...

 

Right mouse click on the Notification Area icon. It is hiding in there.

 

There is a lot of information here, and I am new to things, so I am trying to learn. Let me make sure I am not doing anything stupid:

I set up the first profile to be the main one. In the main menu I have SpeedStep, BD PROCHOT, and C1E on. In FIVR I have CPU Core and CPU Cache set to Unlock Adjustable Voltage and Offset Voltage set to -150. I tested it with AIDA and it seems stable. I set up the fourth profile to be battery and checked Disable Turbo.

In TPL I checked Enable Speed Shift when ThrottleStop starts. But the Speed Shift button above it is not checked. Should it be? Any other changes I should make? I just want to undervolt my CPU to the point where it is stable, and to make it run as cool and quite as possible when not under load.

Thanks!

 

@mishkasm - I am not sure if your laptop manufacturer uses BD PROCHOT in any way. This is a signal path that goes directly to your CPU so other devices like your GPU can tell your CPU to throttle. I prefer leaving BD PROCHOT disabled to prevent this type of throttling.

The best way to achieve cool and quiet is to keep a close eye on the C0% number. A lean install of Windows on a Core i7 processor should have the CPU spending 0.5% or less time in the C0 state when idle. Every time you install anything on your computer, keep an eye on this number to make sure that the C0% has not changed significantly when idle. Lots of software will keep your CPU busy when it really doesn't need to be. All this does is create unnecessary heat. Many Skylake CPUs are OK with a -150 mV offset for the CPU core and cache.

The Speed Shift box indicates whether Speed Shift is presently enabled. If you want Speed Shift enabled immediately, check this box and hit OK or Apply. Checking the box below that one enables Speed Shift the next time ThrottleStop starts or when you resume from Hibernate or Stand By modes. When using Speed Shift, you might have to adjust the EPP setting to make sure your CPU is still able to reach full speed when loaded. You can also adjust EPP to reduce CPU speed when running on battery power.

No need to read this 500+ page thread. A few minor adjustments in ThrottleStop can make a big difference, as long as you check and set the right things. Best way to learn what ThrottleStop is all about is to just play with the program. Post some screenshots if you are not sure about any settings.

 

@unclewebb You have a newer version out for testing? If so...Where to download?

 

I keep getting an EDP current on the limit reasons for my laptop. I would like to understand what this mean?

 

Is it red or yellow?

 

stay yellow most of the time, but some time changes to red for some seconds

 

For yellow edp you need to usually add more voltage or offset voltage. If it stays solid red. Usually means you have to much voltage.
Core is for cpu core
And ring is for cpu cache

 

Thanks Johnksss@iBUYPOWER, also some time it shows PL2 can you help also with that? thanks in advance

 

PL2 is Power Limit 2.

If it flashes like once then you just clear it, but if it keeps showing up then you need to raise the PL2 limit higher. PL2=Watts. So if it's at like 35W then you need to change it to like 75W

No problem.

 

where can I find PL2 for change it? I didn´t find it.

 

Thanks so much for the answer @unclewebb.

I have pretty much a clean install of Windows 10 on my computer with the i7-6700HQ. The C0% number hovers around 1% or so, but it jumps up to 4-6% on occasion while at idle. I think I killed pretty much all non-essential startup programs, except maybe Windows Defender. May replace it with a different AV since it is apparently a pretty inefficient one.

I do not know what EEP is or how to adjust that setting. I simply read one of the online guides for undervolting and followed it. The first post doesn't seem to mention EEP either, so if you can explain I'd appreciate it a lot. I know you say to just play with the program, but I'm worried that if I do something wrong it could seriously mess things up.

 

Do most of you disable all the preinstalled Alienware programs from boot? My C0% seems to idle around 15-20%, but that's with Avira antivirus and HWinfo running, as well as the default Alienware programs.

Edit: mb not everyone here has Alienware >_>, keep getting confused of threads

 

That is a horrible amount of wasted CPU cycles. Who wants a hot and noisy laptop when it is not doing anything? Open up the Task Manager, find out what is running in the background on your computer and start asking yourself, "Is this really necessary or useful or is it just crap?" I grew up in a different era where CPU MHz were measured with single digit numbers. I hate crapware running on my system. TS is full of features but every time I add something new, I only add it if I can do so without turning TS into a bloated pig. Some programmers grew up in a world of GHz so writing inefficient crap doesn't seem to bother them too much. It bothers me.

I use Avast antivirus because when it is properly setup, it continues to be a very lean antivirus solution. I also turned off some useless stuff in Windows 10 like the auto update feature. A user has to keep a close eye on that operating system.

It is actually EPP. This is the Energy Performance Preference setting which is part of Speed Shift so you can find this adjustment in the TPL window. It gives a user the ability to adjust their CPU between being a high performance CPU or being an energy efficient CPU or somewhere in between. Speed Shift allows the CPU to react quickly to changes in CPU load. If you decide to use Speed Shift, you should try adjusting that value. My laptop is mostly plugged in so I prefer to just leave it running at its maximum speed.

Very few people have screwed up their computers while using ThrottleStop. If you have already adjusted voltages, you have already been in the deep end of the pool so no worries. Everything else is nothing compared to playing with the voltage going to your CPU.

Edit - For comparison purposes, here is a brief log of what my Windows 10 laptop is up to when idle. Not very much.

Code:

   DATE       TIME    MULTI   C0%   CKMOD  CHIPM   BAT_mW  TEMP  GPU     VID   POWER
2016-11-07  14:46:00  35.93    4.6  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0463    8.0
2016-11-07  14:46:01  35.47    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:02  35.43    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:03  35.40    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0463    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:04  35.40    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0458    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:05  35.47    0.3  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:06  35.47    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:07  35.29    0.3  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:08  35.26    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0463    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:09  35.28    0.3  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.1
2016-11-07  14:46:10  35.26    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0457    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:11  35.24    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:12  35.79    0.5  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:13  35.31    0.3  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:14  35.26    0.5  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.7
2016-11-07  14:46:15  35.27    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0457    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:16  35.26    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:17  35.29    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:18  35.35    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0458    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:19  35.22    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   42     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:20  35.76    0.5  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:21  35.21    0.5  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:22  35.28    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0458    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:23  35.29    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:24  35.33    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0458    2.1
2016-11-07  14:46:25  35.27    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:26  35.37    0.6  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.5
2016-11-07  14:46:27  35.23    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0458    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:28  35.28    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0457    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:29  35.22    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   42     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:30  35.27    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:31  35.24    0.5  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0463    2.5
2016-11-07  14:46:32  35.63    0.5  100.0  100.0        0   42     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:33  35.27    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0463    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:34  35.22    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:35  35.32    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:36  35.25    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0463    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:37  35.29    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:38  35.42    0.5  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.5
2016-11-07  14:46:39  35.73    0.6  100.0  100.0        0   42     0   1.0463    2.6
2016-11-07  14:46:40  35.26    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:41  35.55    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0458    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:42  35.45    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:43  35.48    0.3  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:44  35.49    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:45  35.41    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:46  35.43    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0458    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:47  35.66    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.5
2016-11-07  14:46:48  35.23    0.5  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0458    2.7
2016-11-07  14:46:49  35.28    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:50  35.10    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0458    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:51  35.30    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0458    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:52  35.34    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0458    2.2
2016-11-07  14:46:53  35.30    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:54  35.35    0.3  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0458    2.3
2016-11-07  14:46:55  35.31    0.3  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:56  35.29    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0458    2.5
2016-11-07  14:46:57  35.14    0.5  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0458    2.6
2016-11-07  14:46:58  35.21    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   40     0   1.0457    2.4
2016-11-07  14:46:59  35.26    0.4  100.0  100.0        0   41     0   1.0457    2.4

 

Oh wow that's crazy. I may have to go and download one of those slimmed down, no bs Windows 10 versions. I believe MS even offers one on their website, a ISO to download. Gonna find out and edit if I find it.

Edit: its called Windows 10 LTSB, however the Windows Store is removed and believe there is no way to get it back, so I won't be using it since some games are Windows store only.

@unclewebb , did you manually disable any services/do you have a website to any info for it? I found some Black Viper website for info on disabling services but I won't mess with it now, I will try it when I reinstall the OS onto a SSD. Also its actually not noisey by any means with being default 15-20 C0%, but if I can lower it and save battery I'm all for it

 

Thanks again @unclewebb. I am not sure what is causing the slightly higher usage. Could just be a slower processor to begin with, right? Right now I have pretty much nothing installed and I removed everything I felt was safe to remove. Windows Defender is the last thing to replace. Right now the EPP is set to 128 with Min at 1 and Max at 255. If Speed Shift lets the CPU respond quickly to load and I am more interested in it being slightly more energy efficient what should I set it to? Or maybe I just let it be and just go with the undervolt?

 

I remember disabling a couple of services but I did not keep track of what I was doing. Windows Update was definitely disabled and I think Cortana was put out to pasture too. I have always kept a close eye on any changes in C0% when idle. When Windows 8.1 got updated to Windows 10, I noticed a big change in C0%. I also noticed an increase in CPU temps when idle and more fan noise too. I was not impressed but I gave Microsoft a day or two for Win10 to settle down. That never happened so I started poking around in the services to look for any problems. Now Windows 10 is just as efficient as previous OS versions. I have not noticed any significant difference in C0% when idle whether I am using Vista, Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10.

I highly recommend using Process Explorer so you can find out exactly what is running on your computer and its impact on C0%.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396

Most Intel laptop CPUs adjust the multiplier (MHz) based on how many cores are active. If one core is spending most of its time active, processing various background tasks, your computer will reduce the CPU multiplier and it will run slower. Some of those glitches when gaming are because the CPU becomes too busy looking after background processes so it is a good idea to get rid of the ones you do not need.

When you have a setting with a range like that and you want to find out what it does, split the difference. Try setting it lower to 64 and see what happens and then try setting it higher to 192 and see what happens to the multiplier when lightly loaded or fully loaded. Science 101. Don't be afraid to experiment. It is the best way to learn.

 

Feel free to decline but if you have the resources would you be able to record a video scrolling through your services.msc ? I'd completely understand if you don't want to. I say video cuz its much simpler than multiple screenshots and the file size would be similar since you'd only have to go as slow (fast) as long as text was readable I could pause it every second to see them. But yeah I tried disabling a bunch already and still hovered at 15-20 haha. Windows update is necessary to download Windows Store games unfortunately