The ThrottleStop Guide

Gotcha. Spring cleaning it is.

 

Well you know me @unclewebb if you want a test, just ask! You can PM me anytime to test anything.

 

Same here @unclewebb.. I'm gonna get this unlocked BIOS and make my 3940XM run at it's limit..

 

Finally gonna be enthusiast eh

 

Here's the progress report.

http://i.imgur.com/NZttAqF.png

All of the voltages are working as well as the cache ratio. One item that XTU doesn't let you access is the Minimum Cache Ratio. A little extra cache performance is useful when benching.

I am pretty sure the TS - FIVR monitoring panel is working 100% correctly. I think HWM needs an update. If I am feeding my 4700MQ 1 Volt + an offset of +2 Volts (+3 Volts total , I am going to need a new CPU shortly!

The final few features are being tested. Round 1 of TS8 beta testing will begin shortly.

 

Great work UncleWebb... Is it possible to create a FIVR monitoring panel (for monitor in real time VCCIN and Cashe voltage in trottlestop or just monitoring all voltage ?) There is no such software that can show this that I know of ... This is something I've missed and wanted from a monitoring software. As of today I don't know exactly how high the processor input voltage and Cashe voltage is on my processor. Xtu shows only core voltage...
I wish(hope) that there will be many donations from people when they see what you've created. This being very good ...
Google translate...
A monitoring software that could be showing all FIVR voltage would be very welcomed ...

 

@unclewebb
Thats Great, very good news.

@Papusan
Thats a good idea.

 

The new monitoring panel in ThrottleStop does monitor the FIVR voltages and Cache Ratio in real time. The only important one that ThrottleStop does not report is VCCIN. Intel's publicly available documentation does not contain any useful information about the FIVR voltages. I would not have made it this far without a huge amount of help from Dufus. I have an idea of where VCCIN data might be hiding but my 4700MQ is either not letting me read that information or I am looking in the wrong spot. If I had access to a 4th Gen desktop board, I might be able to find and start reporting VCCIN. Some Gigabyte desktop boards come with a handy utility that reports VCCIN so last fall I bought a Gigabyte GA Z97X SOC and 4690K for "development purposes". That is always a good excuse. When I lost my job, I had to bring my new toys back to the store.

The donation software model was an epic fail. Not enough people are willing to contribute so I won't be doing that again. Like always, the beta will be free and the final version will likely be free too.

 

How about a "Spend what you want"-Model? I think it is a better model, than the only-free model.

 

ThrottleStop 8.00 is working awesome with the 4930K, 3920XM and 4930MX. The FIVR and cache ratio controls for the 4930MX are excellent and having four fully functional overclock profiles with control overall all 12 threads for overclocking the 4930K is outstanding. It's also great to finally have the ability to set my 4930K to run and idle at whatever clock speeds I want it to run with C1E unchecked instead of downclocking to 1.2GHz at idle. I will post some screen shots sometime this weekend. Best version of ThrottleStop ever!

 

#HYPE

 

This sounds good... I do not think this is right. In one way or another, you should have some form of donation/payment for your work. Everyone should understand that is difficult to develop such software if you lack the hardware that you can test with. Someone should come up with some ideas on how it can be done.
Anyway, it had been brilliant with monitoring of VCCIN in Trottlestop because there is no other software that can do this on a laptop.

 

Did I hear someone ask, "Does this new ThrottleStop work on an 18 core Xeon E7-8890v3 monster?"
Maybe.




His little brother, the E7-8890v2 goes for the princely sum of $6841.

http://ark.intel.com/products/75258/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8890-v2-37_5M-Cache-2_80-GHz?q=E7 8890

Hopefully I get a version uploaded soon. My %&^$ wife has been using my programming computer all day.

Edit - Almost forgot the updated TS Bench.

 

Hello @unclewebb, I have lenovo y40 with i7-5500u processor. Is TS 8.0 support my intel 5th gen low-voltage processor? thanks!

 

Welcome to the NBR forum. ThrottleStop 8.00 should work on your 5th Gen U series CPU. Hopefully when it is finished, you can do some testing for me and post your results in this forum. I will post an updated download link in my signature.

 

Thanks for the really fast reply @unclewebb. Its good to get answer directly from the creator of TS himself, although I am a new user here. It feels that the community here is very welcoming! Yes, I will post my results here after the link is available and test my laptop's processor. In the mean time I will learn the basics of TS 1st

 

ThrottleStop 8.00 beta 1
https://www.sendspace.com/file/hxhifj

New Features:
- added FIVR voltage and 4th Gen overclocking control.
- real time reporting of FIVR voltages and cache ratio.
- added support for 6 or 8 core CPUs, Atom Bay Trail Silvermont and Xeon CPUs.
- added reporting of Overclocking Bins for Sandy Bridge and newer Core i CPUs.
- added adjustable primary plane power limits
- updated Nvidia GPU monitoring code for improved Optimus support.
- added adjustable Windows timer resolution feature.
- fixed ThrottleStop opening up from the taskbar when already running.
- blocked access to the Turbo Ratio Limit adjusters when they are locked by the bios.
- fixed a bug when exiting the main window during a TS Bench test.
- updated TS Bench test window.
- included add on program, Limit Reasons by Dufus that shows why FIVR CPUs are throttling.

 

Thanks much, @unclewebb, for the beta release of TS 8.0. As I am putting the release through its paces with my i7 4970k, just about everything is working great. However, I do see one small issue with the adaptive CPU Cache Voltage on the FIVR Control window. It is currently limited to -125 mV undervolt. While it correctly shows that my current cache voltage is set to -140 mV, any change under the FIVR Control window changes the adaptive cache voltage to -125 mV.

Eh, never mind. I just noticed there is a check box to limit all voltage offsets. With that option unchecked, all offsets are available. Awesome!

Thanks again!

 

Great too see this continuing on.

 

It detects my 5th gen i7 proc nicely. Turbo Disabler and Multiplier works flawlessly. But I still get sudden drop in my GPU clock, which decreases FPS in my game for 1-2 sec. Is it affected by CPU throttling? I tried Game profile also same thing happen. Any suggestion?

 

You'd need to list your system first. There's many reasons why it could happen, and we don't know what GPU you're referring to.

 

Oh sorry, my bad. My laptop's specs :
Lenovo Y40-80
Intel I7-5500U
AMD Radeon R9 M275X
I was able to play Far Cry 4 at 40+ FPS. But sometime my GPU will underclock itself from 925mhz to 400mhz for 1-2sec then it become normal for few minutes before it downclocked again. Im suspecting it is from CPU throttling because im not sure if GPU also have throttling. Is there any suggestion to my problem? Because I did not fully tweaked my TS 8.0 yet.

 

If you are interested in consistent FPS while gaming, do not buy a low power U CPU. The U series are designed to throttle. They are not designed for sustained performance. On many laptops with U CPUs, using ThrottleStop might only improve performance a very small amount or not at all. ThrottleStop can not be used to turn a 15 Watt CPU into a 47 Watt CPU. If you have CPU throttling problems, this can cause the GPU to throttle at the same time. Post some screenshots of how you have ThrottleStop setup including the FIVR and TPL windows. You might be able to use the new version to reduce some of your CPU voltages. I have never owned a 5th Gen U so I am not sure what is possible. Reducing voltage will reduce power consumption and that can increase performance before throttling starts. You might have to use ThrottleStop to reduce the maximum speed of your CPU. Doing this can help you avoid throttling. You will get less peak performance but you might get more consistent performance without the big drops.

ThrottleStop is mostly a laptop tool so I thought an option to limit offset voltage adjustment to +/- 125 mV would help prevent users from accidentally giving their CPU too much voltage. On desktop chips, would you be interested in a wider range like +/- 250 mV? Hardly anyone is ever going to need the full +/- 1024 mV so limiting that feature made sense to me.

 

Has anyone stopped the throttling of the 4xxxHQ processors with this? What were the settings?

 

Unclewebb has outdone himself again with great new features in ThrottleStop 8.00, which now includes 6 and 8 core desktop CPU support.



Older ThrottleStop configuration videos can be found in my YouTube channel here

and here

 

Thanks Mr. Fox for spreading the word.
Next time Lisa and I get together to watch a movie, I know what I am going to recommend.

coincidence - What laptop and CPU model do you have? Is your CPU a 37 Watt or 47 Watt model? I have a 47 Watt 4700MQ but it throttles significantly if I try to run something like Prime95 v28.5 with AVX 2 instructions.

Intel has included multiple throttling methods for laptop manufacturers to pick and choose from. If a manufacturer sets something and then locks that into the bios, the only way to get around this is with a modified bios which might not exist yet or be possible.

Some of the Lenovo laptops use a simple throttling method that can be easily be fixed by using the ThrottleStop Set Multiplier feature. Can you show us any testing you have done? A ThrottleStop log file can help me understand what method is being used and whether ThrottleStop can help or not. www.pastebin.com works well for uploading ThrottleStop log files.

 

If I know that U type proc will throttle me like this, I should have add some money to go for Y50. My bad . But im sure there will be a way to make it works nicely (after all that is what technology is about, it can always be hacked...lol)
I have not touched any other options except the main screen. I really hope that @unclewebb can guide me through this, and if can explain a little bit about FIVR and TPL functions so that I can make some logic thinking in my tiny brain.
My pastebin = http://pastebin.com/g77SA1yA
IDK if it is helpful. But during this log I encountered several GPU downclock.

 

The HQ CPUs have a power limitation to them. You can read about them in my mobile i7 guide at length (there's a section for them) but in general, they will do one of two things:
Hit their default 57W short power max for 2.5 minutes then default to their normal 47W TDP limit
or
Never cross their 47W TDP limit.

Setting options in the BIOS and/or via Intel XTU on:
Clevo
Clevo with Prema Mod
MSI
MSI with Svet mod
ASUS
Alienware 17 R2 & AW15 R1
Pretty much any other HQ CPU using machine ever

Does nothing. Only lowering the power limits seems to take effect. It makes OCing pointless, and the only way to keep max turbo under really heavy loads like heavy video rendering etc is to undervolt your chip a lot. Which not every chip can do equally.

The 49xxHQ chips are a bit different. They follow the former method but with an unlocked TDP limiter instead of 57W (which is long enough for it to succeed in CPU benchmarks with overclocks) but right after it throttles again. Here's a thread I made where I had a GT80 user test it for me with unlocked-FPS BF4: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...owners-with-the-i7-4980hq-help-me-out.770065/

 

Here are the Intel specs for your CPU.

http://ark.intel.com/products/85214/Intel-Core-i7-5500U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_00-GHz

I realize it is too late for you but other users need to do their homework before buying a new laptop. The MHz ratings can be very misleading.

The 5500U is a 15 Watt processor but it also has a configurable TDP rating of only 7.5 Watts. When this CPU enters TDP Level 1, the Configurable TDP down frequency is only 600 MHz. That might be OK for a phone or if you want to check your email but it is horrible when trying to play a game. On some laptops, you can now access this setting in the Windows Control Panel Power Options.

http://i.imgur.com/WN6Nd0r.png

Make sure when plugged in that this is set to the maximum value. In the ThrottleStop - Turbo Power Limits window, make sure TDP Level Control is checked and make sure that is set to 0. Try testing this first. If this doesn't help then you can try using the Lock option for that. If that doesn't help, you will need to reboot your laptop and remove the ThrottleStop.INI configuration file before running ThrottleStop again to unlock this register.

The problem is that these values can be set in the CPU but there is a duplicate set of registers in the chipset that overrule the CPU TDP Level register. ThrottleStop is only accessing the CPU register so if your laptop uses this second set of registers, you might be out of luck.

When testing, make sure SpeedStep is checked and Set Multiplier is checked and set to the highest value. Also make sure that Disable Turbo is not checked.

Intel has learned a lot about people in forums hacking their hardware. They have done a great job of closing many loop holes so laptop manufacturers have a lot more control while users end up with very little control. The future is boards with soldered on CPUs and low power CPUs and unfortunately, the future is now. Not good for enthusiasts. You have to accept this or better yet, return your new laptop if it cannot be used for the reason you bought it and then try buying something else.

Thank you for posting so many pictures. That makes it easier for me to see how TS8 is working.

Edit - You can try undervolting the CPU and CPU Cache by about 50 mV. Less power consumption helps avoid reaching the throttling point. Under volting is a science. If you do not understand what you are doing and the risks, do some reading first before making any adjustments.

 

I understand that if I were to undervolt, I might get BSOD. But i will try for sake of my gaming. lol. So, what slider should I change if I want to undervolt the CPU and CPU Cache?

EDIT : My GPU clock and its temp photo. After it reached 75C it will underclock itself. Do this normally came from CPU throttling?

 

Spoiler

Yes... yes indeed. And without competition, both Intel and nVidia can do absolutely as they please... because the fact of the matter is, even a locked down, half-working, overly gimped, soldered piece of smear on a windscreen glass of a chip from either Intel or nVidia at this point RIPS THE LIVING SOUL out of anything AMD can dream of offering. Why would anyone buy AMD? A throttling 4710HQ will do better than any AMD CPU I could get, even if I could shove an FX-9590 in my laptop. I should know, because when I originally put my CPU under stress with streaming and playing BF4 etc, I ran into a problem where I'd almost constantly throttle to 3.4GHz or a bit less (either due to heat or me not adjusting power limits up or some kind of something I didn't know I had to do at the time)... and I was still trading blows with 4.8GHz FX-8350 CPUs etc. Far less in-game performance. Don't get me started on all those single-thread-heavy games out there where the TDP-locked mobile chip would be so much better it's a joke.

We're in the age where manufacturers don't want or care about making good tech anymore, and the market is not only "okay with", but "glad to" and even "defensive of" tech that works 60% of the time, because their workloads will usually fall into that 60% range, so they don't see the defects. It's like driving a car that'll shut down at 100km/h but since you're only gonna drive between 0-75km/h you're saying the car is perfectly fine, because it'll never shut down for you.

Anyway Unclewebb, if you ever come across one of those HQ chips and you can somehow get TS to ignore the TDP limits in a BIOS that has it select-able, I'll be glad to add your program and the wonders it can do when fixing Intel's crap to my guide and promote it etc. Even though there is a part of me that wants to let the whole market cling to their thin/light/soldered crap and when it gets too far they start to moan just so I could laugh at them. But no, I have morals, and part of that is to share helpful information.

Spoiler

If I'm reading your screenshots correctly, then in Turbo FIVR control you're going to want to check "unlock adjustable voltage" then start adding negative offsets to the "offset voltage" slider. A good place to start with the i7s is -50mV and keep decreasing until you get a random BSOD or black-screen shutdown at some point; then you increase the offset to a more stable value (for example if you find that up to -75mV is stable but -80mV causes instabilities, return to -75mV and keep it there until you encounter instabilities, if at all. If you do, return to -70mV; if not, leave at -75mV, etc etc).

If I'm wrong Unclewebb can correct me =D.

Spoiler

If it helps you, my i7 guide in my signature should be a good read. And you can send it to other people who are considering purchasing laptops too and want to do productivity work like rendering etc from it.

Also, ALWAYS REMEMBER: laptop hardware is generally overpriced. Laptops also sell more in the whole unit, such as screen/keyboard/mouse (trackpad), speakers, wifi card, etc which adds to the base cost compared to a lower end desktop where a user is likely to have a keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers/headset, etc already (subtracts from base cost).

If you want to get something good, you need to shell out money. Even the Y50 you said you'd save up for is generally a sub-par machine out-of-the-box. It has a terrible screen, and as Unclewebb pointed out, it has artificial throttle limits (which thankfully can be removed/bypassed with Throttlestop... now. Later models may not be capable of this) and the 4K screen is only 48Hz, which is arguably worse than the 45% gamut 1080p screen. Its cooling is not the best. Etc etc. I could go on. In other words, there is a REASON you can get them for $850-900 a lot of the time. If something is leaps and bounds cheaper than the competition, there is a reason. Always do your research before you buy anything substantial. Even a decent pair of headphones warrants some good research.

Laptops tend to top-out around the top of the food chain. The more you spend, the more cost effective they get. In my machine it was a similar case; to buy my machine's equivalent in a desktop, I would have ended up spending $300 USD less than what I bought this machine for, on the day I received it. To buy the equivalent of the single-GPU variant of my machine, the price gap widened to about $500. To buy the one with the midrange card (770M) the price gap widened further. Etc etc. So when buying low, you need to spend a lot for some good hardware. It sucks that it is that way, but it is.

I wrote like a book. Or something. Again. I hid with spoiler tags for the sake of how long my post was. Enjoy!

 

Nicely written bro! With your instructions, I have undervolted my CPU by just a little -65mV but the temp clearly drops by 4-5C while gaming!! I will try a few more until I get the most stable offset, but what negative effect will I suffer due to undervolting, since the clock is still the same?

Thanks @unclewebb for the suggestion and D2 Ultima for the instructions. But one more question, which option is more better while in gaming ; Disabling Turbo Boost for consistent clock or just go with max Turbo Boost for performance...or set Multiplier to middle of both. Looking forward for an answer

 

At a certain point you might run into current limit throttling... but that point varies. Otherwise, it has no downsides. Almost everyone who has a haswell chip on this forum undervolts when they can.

I'd say keep turbo boost and the undervolt and see what works. If you find that the undervolt lessens the downclock of your GPUs but doesn't kill it, then try lowering your multiplier slightly until you find the sweetspot.

 

A long time ago I was doing some under volting on my desktop computer which was using Windows XP and I got a BSOD. I thought, no big deal but when I tried to reboot, Windows was nuked. I am a reasonably smart guy and I can almost always find a way to get Windows up and running again but this one time, I could not. It was a major disaster and I was not prepared at all. Typical. I always preach to others about backing up everything that is important and always being prepared because you never know when a hard drive might crap out but for my own computers, I am never as prepared as I should be. I would like to think that this sort of disaster is a lot less likely to happen when using Windows 8.1 but before exploring the limits of your CPU, it is best to be prepared. The days of a laptop coming with a DVD so any user can re-install Windows are gone. People need to create their own back up media and many people do not think about this until it is too late.

Run your CPU as fast as you can get away with. If having turbo boost enabled is causing your CPU to hit some power or temperature limit and throttle way back then you have to do whatever it takes to avoid that. When a low power U CPU enters TDP Level 1, your laptop will instantly become a miserable gaming experience. You need to avoid that. Under volting definitely helps and running your CPU slower than its maximum speed can also help. Have you played with TDP Level yet? It is the most important one. There was a post in this forum a while ago about how to lock this same register in the chipset to prevent the CPU from going into TDP Level 1. I will have a look for it.

EDIT - I still need to see if TS8 still works the same on the first Gen Core i CPUs like the 920XM as well as how it works on some of the low power slug Atom series. I spent a lot of time adding Atom capability to ThrottleStop and it works fine on my Z3000 series but it would be interesting to see how it is doing on some other Atom Bay Trail type chips.

Here is the link I was looking for about the TDP Level location in the chipset.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-278#post-9933899

Your CPU does not seem to support TDP Level 2 so your best option is to try locking this chipset register so you can maintain TDP Level 0 and prevent dropping down to TDP Level 1. This trick might not work. I didn't get a lot of feedback after posting that information and I avoid buying devices with U CPUs for testing purposes.

If you can, set that register to 80000000. The 8 is the lock bit and the last digit at the far right end is the TDP Level so for you, that should be the number zero.

 

unclewebb you have created a great new ThrottleStop 8 . Congratulations with a new great piece of art(work). Where should I ( all) donate money so we can contribute, so you can continue with this great feat of a work? Thank you.
Have a picture of a benchmark witht bench 32m.
Why is my score lower with New Trottlestop 32m Benc compared to Trottlestop bench in version 7.0? What have you changed? This 32m benchmark test is much less resource intensive than the previous version which was in 7.0 ... Does the processor in my Alienware 17 become slower now when the scores are lower? LoL .. HaHa
Thanks for this artwork

 

I have change the register that @unclewebb requested to 80000000. So how do I want to check wether my TDP Level is locked at Level 0?
FYI, after I set the registry, my Miscellaneous in TPL option is greyed, does it mean that it is locked? And what does the registry with "00000017" mean because in your 4700MQ processsor does not have that.
Here is my screenshot :



EDIT : I still got my GPU downclocked to 400mhz, meaning I still have CPU throttle. I will investigate further.
EDIT 2 : Done some Prime95 Small FTT testing. It seems my U-type CPU throttles its clock from 2.9mhz to 2.7mhz when it reached 80C. I tried to revert the changes in registry but cannot. The number changed automatically after I change it to 00000000

 

Thank you Papusan. Writing freeware software is not a get rich quick scheme so it is always nice to hear some positive feedback from users.

I just noticed yesterday that the TS Bench test is vastly different than the previous version. I compiled the program so it uses some newer instructions in the CPU but not the AVX instructions. It is doing the exact same calculation as before but it gets the calculation done much quicker and power consumption during this test is way down. I kind of like the old test better. I like creating heat and I found the previous test was a good representation of a "real world" kind of load. I might go back to the previous inefficient version.

Long term, I would like to build a separate TS Bench test using the AVX or AVX2 instructions. That would be interesting and might give me the load / heat balance that I am looking for.

qiffahs - A U CPU is not designed to run Prime95 at full speed. Prime95 probably needs something like 75 W or 80 Watts to run at full speed so it is not going to happen on a 15 Watt CPU. Even my 47 Watt 4700MQ throttles the CPU while running this test so of course a 15 Watt CPU is going to throttle like crazy.

Can you run a ThrottleStop log file while gaming with the CPU in TDP Level 0? Copy and Paste your log file info to www.pastebin.com and then post a link here. Your GPU throttling might be completely separate and have nothing to do with the CPU. Manufacturers like to throttle things these days.

It will give me a better look at how your CPU is running during a more normal load. There is nothing normal about the kind of load that Prime95 can put on a 4th or 5th Gen CPU.

Once you set that register to 80000000, that register is locked until you reboot. Same with the Lock feature in ThrottleStop. You need to reboot, remove the ThrottleStop.INI file and then start up ThrottleStop so it doesn't lock that register again. I just suggested that as a test. To see if it would make any difference when gaming.

 

Trottlestop should not be freeware ... Ensure that there is a kind of payment solution we can use.
unclewebb; You should also change to the previous more resource intensive bench test, as this new Trottlestop bench test is designed more for weak Bga processors... The previous Trottlebench test was much more realistic of a "real world" kind of load. Use the old bench test in a new beta and the final version of Trottlestop 8.0... I like'd the old test much better than this one. I thought there was something wrong with the bench test , as I saw that my mx processor went barely above idle temp and low watt's(Trottlestop bench 1024m test gave only 56w load and max temp of 56c). Had to test with Cinebench 11.5 and Wprime afterwards, to see that my processor(lived)and increased the temperature and watt's. Then first I realized That the new Throttlestop bench test maybe fit more for these new Intel throttled Bga processors ...

 

It's been quite some time since I popped by but I'm glad to see rustling activity around here

Naturally, hats off to unclewebb for improving what was already a remarkable piece of software.

I swapped ThrottleStop 7.00 for 8.00b1 and overall I have to say I'm quite impressed. However, there are a couple things I'd like to note. First, as other users have pointed out, TS Bench does indeed apply a much lighter load on the CPU to the point where my 4.5GHz OC wasn't even being reached but rather just the 4.4GHz Turbo Boost. I've ran external CPU stress test software to check whether ThrottleStop was applying clocks properly and it was Second, and this is purely a cosmetic matter, but the TS Bench window doesn't like non standard dpi settings, something that 7.00 had no issues with. Screenshot attached.


Bottomline is, the best became even better.

EDIT: Had some tray icon issues but, as usual, Notification Area Cleaner sorted that out nicely.

Also, should be able to test Optimus compatibility this weekend.

 

Please enable profile by TPL(Package Power Long, Short) setting, like a FIVR(voltage).
ex) profile 1: tdp 58w/58w, profile 2: tdp 44w/44w, ...
ex2) AC: tdp 58w/58w, Battery: tdp 44w/44w
or Reset TDP values after ThrottleStop exit.

Thank you for using a good program.

 

I have tested gaming with TDP Level 0 Locked and saved the log. @unclewebb , im having a disturbing FPS drops on during both log. Please have a look at this http://pastebin.com/x2Bsa8fR and this http://pastebin.com/QN9h6PzQ
p/s : During the 2nd log, I encountered multiple times of FPS drops than 1st log. Mainly at when the last column (perhaps Watt) is below 10.

 

@unclewebb TS8 is the best Intel Voltage/Frequency/Power tool around. I choose it over XTU and any of the Intel board partner utilities! You couldn't pay me to use their crap.

I have 2 Z87 platform boards one with a 4790K and one with a 4670K. If you need someone to test something on that platform let me know. Oh and I'd be happy to buy you a few cups of coffee via Paypal if you let me...

P.S. Anyone with a Z77, Z87 or Z97 board wondering why the package won't drop into anything lower than C2, turn off Intel DSA (Dynamic Storage Accelerator) and Disable hotswap for the PCH SATA ports.

 

That is a great idea. The power limits are locked on both of my testing computers so that is the main reason that I have not worked on this feature yet. Hopefully someday soon.

There is some CPU throttling but I do not think that is the main cause of your FPS problem. When your CPU is running fast, the multiplier is close to 29 when under load and when throttling a little, this drops down to 24. Yes, that will cause your FPS to decrease but if you are having massive drops in FPS, I think that is mostly being caused by GPU throttling. My daughter has a 3rd Gen U CPU. When it drops down to a bad TDP Level, the CPU multiplier gets locked at 8 so the CPU is running at only 798 MHz. Your 5th Gen U CPU is doing way better than that. Now you just need to find a way to unthrottle your GPU. I am not sure if that is going to be possible.

Thanks. That's the kind of stuff that keeps me motivated. I will keep you in mind if I need some 4th Gen testing done.
I am very happy with the recent additions to ThrottleStop. It is always a challenge trying to write software like this when Intel deliberately hides their full documentation from individual developers like myself. None of this would have been possible without the help I received from Dufus.

Tonight I was taking care of some of the loose ends that have been brought to my attention. The TS Bench has been restored to its previous power sucking, heat producing self and I did some tweaks for people that use high dpi screens. The max I have access to is 1920x1200. Thanks tribaljet for pointing this out. Nice to see a long time TS user come back for a visit.

One problem I had with TS8 is that I like to max out the min cache speed on my 4700MQ but this seems to cause problems when resuming from Stand By mode. My Lenovo would hang when trying to resume and then it was a long painful wait for Windows 8.1 to do a clean boot. That's not good so I added a new option that relaxes the cache settings just before the CPU goes into Stand By mode and then restores these settings after the CPU safely resumes from Stand By. It needs some more testing but so far so good. I might create a similar option for the CPU Core if someone needs it. I think a CPU is less likely to hang if you reduce its speed and set the voltage back to its default value during stand by.

 

Thanks. I will check every day for new release related to this function.

 

TSbench is awesome, I preferred it over p95 or other stress test for temp checking. Why? It won't instant stop turbo multiplier.


Edit: wow new release, gonna try it, not much for a locked sandy but new toy is new toy.

Edit: bay trail support
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Hi guys, Is this new v8 beta1 version supports already 5th generation Core i5-5200U processor? Usefull like Throttlestop 7 for I5-4200U? Thanks!

 

unclewebb Something is wrong with Trottlestop 8.0. When I start Trottlestop it does not work to write @ in texts if I press the combination Alt Gr + 2 (so that I can write @ in for example emails). The same happens if I use the combination Alt Gr + 3 so I can write for example £ 100 and so on. Something is strange. I use a Norwegian keyboard. When I exit Trottlestop and close, then works all Alt Gr + number combinations again. Trottlestop closing for the possibility of to use Alt Gr key combinations and (2 and 3) on my Alienware17 R1 keyboard.

 

People have been asking for a long time about Bay Trail support so I finally added it. To be honest, I do not think this new feature is going to help many people. You cannot overclock Bay Trail and I doubt any of them are throttling. They just feel like they are throttling because they run so slow. I still need to fix power consumption reporting for Bay Trail. I kind of lost interest. Voltage adjustment features for the 4th and 5th Gen was my primary focus with this recent update.

I like the original TS Bench test too. It is more of a realistic load compared to Prime 95 v28.5.

It should. If you have a Core i5-5200U, post some pics.

Does your keyboard work 100% correctly when you are not using ThrottleStop? I mean 100%. Every key combination displays the correct letter, number or punctuation mark? It sounds like the language you are using in Windows is not correct for the keyboard that you are using. Make sure that you are not using any of the ThrottleStop keyboard hotkeys when testing.

My keyboard works correctly with or without TS8 running. I plan to release a beta 2 in the next few days. Let me know if that makes any difference.

 

Thank you very much.. My head is in the wrong place Of course. All OK. +++ Rep. I used of course 2 and 3 in Hotkey Manager
One more question; Is it so that I can't open xtu when I use trottlestop? Because xtu will not start. Although I did not start up Trottlestop, the xtu don't start. Is it so that a setting in the registry from Trottlestop stopping xtu from starting, even if I close trottlestop from boot or I close Trottlestop with exit ?
Last question; Is the old Trotllestop bench placed in the beta version in your sign now?

 

ThrottleStop does not write anything to your registry. I think it is a little sketchy / dangerous for any overclocking program to touch the registry but maybe that is just me.

I have no problem running ThrottleStop 8.00 and Intel XTU at the same time. You do have to be aware that there is only a single register in your CPU that controls overclocking and all of the voltages in the 4th and 5th Gen CPUs. If 2 different programs are both writing information to the same register, at the same time, either program might not work as intended. I have not done any recent testing. ThrottleStop does not mind if you run XTU but some versions of XTU are not happy when other programs try to control the CPU. Intel writes software like they are the one and only company that should be touching their CPU. ThrottleStop is more aware that most users will probably run both programs at the same time.

The TS Bench in TS 8.00 beta 1 runs way faster, consumes less power and produces less heat. It uses instructions in the CPU that are way more efficient. Three cheers to Intel for this update in technology but people here have voted to go back to the old inefficient TS Bench that created lots of heat. The TS Bench in TS 8.00 beta 2 should be very similar to the good old TS Bench that was in TS 6.00 and TS 7.00. After that, I plan to write the TS Bench as a separate program while using the AVX instructions just to see if I can create some heat like Prime95 does.