The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

I don't know. I still struggle with the whole size and weight of the laptops with these chips. If I'm going to be buying one with just a single 25W or 35W CPU, why do they need to be 4.5+ lbs? Why 15" laptops? The 13" variants only carry the dual core versions too.

 

Because 'they' don't think consumers will buy them. Or the margins on them would be too low compared to other products. Or, most likely, they don't want to cannibalize sales of the more profitable products in the same class.

I'd buy the dm1 with the a8-4555, (under the assumption that the dm1 chassis can't cool a 25w a10-4655), but that doesn't exist

 

Well AMD is behind the 8 ball in the CPU war. I like the direction they went in with the APU and it works better in the laptop world than the desktop world for people who want to game on a budget. I can't help but think there are more casual gamers in the market for a computer than people who need extremely powerful cpus.

If I could get a laptop like the Sony Vaio S15 with a Trinity A10 and a 900p screen for sub $700 I would be set.

 

The OEMs don't want to give real option to the consumer.
If they made a product that fit exactly your needs you wouldn't buy a new notebook soon enough.
That's why it's complicated to get that perfect mix of portability/performance/high quality display.

 

Or there are just too many stupid people in this world.

 

Maybe I'll go pull up some real photos like you said. Also, I've been working on some older HP Compaq business laptops and those are built quite nicely (comparable to Dell and Lenovo business-class).

It looks like Lenovo won't even offer the E435 in the USA, that's sad. Sure, just shove more 15.6" notebooks down our throats! Honestly I'm pretty darn happy with my E425 for what it is and for what I paid. It has served me well and (even without Trinity) I feel like its better than the E435. I think I'm still the only one on this entire forum who bought one. Meh, I'm so happy with it, I'm considering skipping Trinity notebooks all together and waiting for Kaveri/Kabini quad-core/GCN APUs.

We'll see what happens, it's been over 6 months since mobile Trinity made it's debut, I think I can hold off another 6 months... lol

 

On the one hand, yes, I totally agree with you that they are limiting options artificially.
On the other hand, if they made a product that fit my needs exactly, and kept it up to date with new technology, I'd keep buying it as soon as they released it! (assuming it was affordable, of course.)

 

If Samsung had a 900p screen, or 3-year warranty, or the more rigorous testing and Professional version of Windows without boatware, I would agree. Trying to customize the 6475b is futile though, too expensive, have to go to the pre-config items, which they have one decked out for $829. I have a Thinkpad, and at my work we have 15" AMD Llano Pro-books which look and feel fine.

 

if I wanted to get a light weight notebook with radeon 7xxx graphics, whether ultrabook or whatever, with at least 900p, what's my shortlist? all I'm seeing on a quick re-look is Vaio... is that the only choice? lets define "light" as 4lb max. i'm trying to spend some money and not finding a way hahaha!

 

if you go to Global Provider of Innovative Graphics, Processors and Media Solutions | AMD you can filter out whatever you need from their offerings.

 

2 more days until my laptop arrives!

 

Sweet, can't wait.

I was thinking about picking up this:
$449.00 walmart HP Midnight Black 15.6" Envy Sleekbook 6-1129wm Laptop PC with AMD Quad-Core A8-4555M Accelerated Processor and Windows 8 Operating System

Or this:
$469.94 (after $50 rebate) office depot HP Pavilion dv6-7138us A10-4600M 6GB RAM 640GB HDD Windows 7 HP x64

Thoughts?

the heck double post

 

Hmm, looks like a nice deal, but weren't you interested in the Samsung 535 14''? Also you can get the sleekbook with A10 and 7200RPM hard drive for only $100 more from hp's website with coupons, but i would at least add backlit keyboard to that. If the one in Walmart has a baklit keyboard its a great deal then. Doesn't have the quality of the Samsung with the plastic build and the glossy screen and even more glossy bezel, but it does have a ridiculous 8 hour battery life, kicking even ultrabooks in the .

 

I was checking out the A10 Sleekbook on hp.com and noticed its price is lower. With all the bells and whistles and 2-day free shipping its $681.03 but I don't know of any coupons. Which one are you talking about?

EDIT: Found this NB9278, brought it down to $659.58 (2-day free shipping), not bad!
HP ENVY Sleekbook 6z-1100
B5Y91AV

Windows 8 64
AMD Quad-Core A10-4655M Processor (2.8GHz/2.0GHz, 4MB L2 Cache) + HD 7500G Discrete-Class Graphics
4GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm)
320GB 5400RPM Hard Drive
Microsoft Office Trial
No additional security software
4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
15.6" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366 x 768) SVA
No Internal DVD or CD Drive
Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone
802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
Backlit Keyboard
Estimated ship date: December 26, 2012

I am interested in the NP535U4C, also the U38N/DT, and the Sleekbook.

 

The Walmart Sleekbook looks good purchase for $450 with A8, and the backlit - keyboard issue, you probably can solve for yourself with a later upgrade. Note maximum 500GB storage capacity as long as 7mm 1TB drives are not coming! or just as big as your SSD!
I hope you will buy something now and join to Trinity owners!

Link4;
Which laptop have you ordered?

And here is an another very good deal HP Pavilion M6 for $458. I know it is refurbished, but can be exactly as good as a new one. + you could put inside a future Trinity APU

 

I like the m6 chassis, nice one

Similar:
$469.94 (after $50 rebate) office depot HP Pavilion dv6-7138us A10-4600M 6GB RAM 640GB HDD Windows 7 HP x64

The NP535U4C is still $699.99.

 

I've found my good deal for NP535U4C and ordered couple days ago. For a short moment was showing up an used: -like new condition for $580, plus after purchase I could apply 10% off Coupon code by customer service. Plus Paypal 1% as well . So finally I manged to buy for good price...
Unfortunately I'll get it just later, because I'm back in Europe and will take for a good while till my friend ship to Vienna...
So go ahead and buy something too, If I were you I would probably go for M6 or DV6 (at this moment).

Do you also having trouble to load these forums?

 

How does the A10 2.0GHz run? I had the A8 Envy Sleekbook 6 and it lacked punch.

 

You guys should wait a bit for the Asus U38N... That's the best Trinity notebook.
Actually today I played around with another awesome notebook from Asus. The Asus X202E.
It's a nice little i3 Ivy Bridge 11,6'' almost ultrabook with a touchscreen for 600$.
It has 4Gb of RAM soldered to the board but one can change the HDD. I was playing with it and thinking that Asus should release a Trinity version of this notebook with the A6 and maybe the A8 ULV APUs. It would be the perfect mobile notebook to carry around if it had Trinity in it.

I can't understand why the OEMs aren't using the Trinity APUs in smaller form factors and promoting the AMD notebooks as great all around machines.

 

I tried that code and it doesn't work, since its only for ultrabooks. There is another code that works partially. It says extra 15% off on sleekbooks, but so far I can only take 15% off and the intial savings is canceled so here is what I found.

Windows 8 64
AMD Quad-Core A10-4655M Processor (2.8GHz/2.0GHz, 4MB L2 Cache) + HD 7500G Discrete-Class Graphics
4GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm)
320GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Microsoft Office Trial
No additional security software
4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
15.6" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366 x 768) SVA
No Internal DVD or CD Drive
Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone
802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
Backlit Keyboard

Price $724.99 and after coupon code NB6893 it is $616.24 + FREE 2 day shipping (the estimated shipping date is incorrect since that's for 5-7 business days.)

Also don't buy the memory upgrade it's way overpriced, I think you can upgrade it's memory later with cheap memory from Amazon.

Sadly the BestBuy offer has been out of stock for like forever, but at least the new Walmart offer is nice.

 

It seems that the Asus U38DT is coming with the new GCN mobile GPUs from AMD. It's the entry GPU, but that's really intereting to know.
Finally AMD seems to be doing something right with this Asus U38 notebook.

 

Both AMD and ASUS! Things are slightly better but not quite there yet.

Also, Its good to see the mobile 8000M series GCN GPUs making their public debut. Things are looking very interesting.

What you mean it lacked punch? What did you expect? What were you planning on doing with it? What happened to the Sleekbook? Please elaborate.

Id think for even the simplests of task it would be quite good (like email, browsing, watching hd videos, music, photo editing, facebook, even some gaming and that sorta thing).

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Received my laptop today, setting it up right now, but i'm busy with College Finals, should be free after Wednesday.

 

It seems that the Asus U38DT is the AMD "Nexus". I hope that AMD or Asus market it decently.
I think the reason for the 1366x768 display is quite clear: to make the 8550M shine at that resolution, and show that the 17W A8-4555M isn't a bottleneck on the GPU performance. Now if Enduro finally starts working as it should, AMD could have a winner on its hands and signal other OEMs to making products like the U38DT or at least start using AMD mobile GPUs since the new Nvidia mobile GPUs are still a long way off (at least 3 months).

 

What about the ASUS N56DP 15'6 inch 1920x1080? A10-4600. Seems like it has Radeon HD 7730M - 2 GB DDR3 SDRAM GPU, thought. Has anyone written about this one previously in this thread?

inWarehouse.se - ASUS N56DP 15.6" Full HD

 

Yes, I did. And since mine arrived yesterday I will be covering it more in here soon.

 

Well what gaming will you be doing on it? I tried SFIV and it only ran well with either the stages turned off or at 800x600 resolution. But from my experience SFIV is actually a little more cpu demanding. Now the snappy part I am not sure who is at fault - the cpu or the os - but Windows 8 just seemed slow. I have seem it in action before on an i5-2500K 8GB RAM desktop and it just seemed sluggish on the sleekboook.

 

That's the issue, you shouldn't compare a 77W processor to a sub 20W one. And I'm not sure what you mean by sluggish, my A10 runs plenty fast. By just downloading Catalist 12.11 Beta drivers for my 7730M my Desktop graphics score on Windows Experience Index went from 4.9 to 6.5, and it should improve the 7660G too but that only runs when laptop is unplugged and when its unplugged WEI doesn't run. Sluggish performance may be from storage, as it is the weakest component in my system at 5.9 compared to 6.9 for CPU and 7.2 for RAM. SSDs make a much bigger difference than anything else will ever make so if the 2500k system had one that's where most of the difference originates (5400RPM drives are a nightmare, can't wait to get rid of mine.)

 

Good find. Would be interested how it compares with the custom HP

 

I am not comparing a desktop build to the sleekbook. The desktop did not have an SDD; it had a 7200 platter drive. Maybe the A10 is faster. Maybe my expectations were too high. Maybe I bought the wrong machine for my needs. I was looking for an attractive, slim pc with good battery life and light gaming capabilities. The sleekbook is very attractive, slim (a little heavy) and has great battery life. It could not run SFIV and maybe the A10 would have made a difference vs the A8 cpu wise. But Windows did seem sluggish.

I do not see a Sleekbook thread in the HP forum. Maybe that would shed some light here.

 

Navigating the O/S (Win7 and/or Win8) on an AMD setup seems sluggish to me too.

Not sure if the beta AMD drivers would alleviate that at all, but it might be worth a try?

 

Which AMD do/did you own or use? It is reassuring that I am not the only one who experienced this. I am still learning the nuances of using Windows 8 and I find myself bumbling about alot. Going from Modern UI to Desktop back and forth looking for what I wanted, misclicking on the wrong icon and launching apps.

I am testing it out on the Desktop i5 8GB Ram as I am typing this and I do think a percentage of it is Windows 8. Slow transitions, silly circular bubbles, waiting waiting. W8 is nice to look at but its a steep learning curve.

I really wanted the A10 Sleekbook 6 and I am hoping the A10 makes the difference. I am going to build an A10-5800K no dGPU 2133 DDR3 RAM D4 Mobo SSD HTPC which will be good enough to run the games I am looking to play. So maybe I will repurchase a Trinity notebook, or wait for the 8000 series graphic cards.

 

Thanks for the input.

I've noticed sluggishness from both Intel and AMD systems during loading of apps or at first startup using 7 or 8 but after that, navigating the OSes seems fine. I don't think any one chip maker is any worse than the other (on a well maintained system). Of course this could be attributed to the use of hard drives and low-capacity RAM, and low-performing CPUs in those systems too (as well as software/drivers installed). I've been using an SSD in my personal AMD system for over a year and it helps tremendously of course. However, every once in a while I do notice some sluggishness, hicupping, or just stutter in the time it takes for me to click on something and when it actually appears on screen. Its hard to say exactly what's causing this and its not like it happens all the time or for very long (less than a second maybe). I've gotten very used to my SSDs and I recommend one to anyone for their OS drive.

It just surprised me to hear that the 19W A8-4555M system was showing obvious signs of sluggishness. Like the others said, could be one of many things but for even the basic stuff it shouldn't struggle. Heck, right now I'm using an Atom-based HP Mini with a 5400rpm HDD using Windows 7 32-bit and this system definitely shows signs of sluggishness but even then its still not that terrible. For what my customer is planning on using it for, it doesn't bother him (or me).

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Yeah, it is certainly sluggish with HDD. Using SSD than my system absolutely snappy already in battery mod (800MHz) with both Win7 and Win8. When I turned CPU cores down to 500MHz started to feel like sluggish a little bit...

 

Speaking of both your points/devices:
- can someone post a direct link to HP sleekbook customizable build? I tried twice in the last few days to figure out their website and do a sample quote for an A10 unit with full 1080p - never could find the right start point - I'm wanting to run a compare with the ASUS unit mentioned above
- nick I would be interested in what components are going into your HTPC recipe

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Here ya go.

 

I did not look at the link Charlie sent but from my shopping search you cannot get a Sleekbook with a 1080p screen. You can get the Envy DV6z with an AMD A10 (35W) and 1080p screen. The sacrifice you will have to make is price, battery life and size but you gain gaming, better keyboard, and better screen.

The HTPC build would depend on what you are looking to do. Some people build media builds which means you would not use the 100W A10-5800K you would opt for the 5700. And get plenty of storage space. I am building an all round pc which will be for light gaming, netflix, and I will leave Blu Ray to the standalone player. Also a big factor is where you are putting the HTPC. Some people go for bigger builds which means you can still use a dGPU like an ATi 7750 (maybe a low profile one) or even a more powerful dGPU.

 

Ah, I missed the part about the 1080p screen. Apologies.

 

Yep - Nick is right on that one. comes out about the same price as the similar Asus model. no great deals going on it right now. I hear that the display is a good one if you get the upgrade.

 

Yea the Envy DV5z, Asus N56DP-DH11 and the Lenovo Y500 are direct competitors. The Y500 to me was the best with the discounts Lenovo was running at Christmas which got you an i7 + GT 650M. The Asus N56 I think looks the best and has the cool subwoofer addon. I believe the Asus has the weakest GFX card though.

 

Actually, I forgot to ask, how much RAM did your Sleekbook have, because if it was 4GB it was only using single channel and thats where the problem was. Also any modern 7200RPM Desktop drive with enough cache would be way better than any ty 320GB 5400RPM 7mm HDD. Also RPM isnt everything as 1TB platter hard drives are extremely fast comprred to ones that use multiple platers, and also the desktop Hard Drive might have been a Hybrid Drive which are niles ahead an hard drive (for example Seagate Momentus XT).

 

Nice, my A10-4600M was running 3.2GHz on all for cores for 4-5 secs at idle.

 

That's good to hear! So when can we expect your review?

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Probably soon, I have been very busy the last couple of days, and I don't know how accurate the clock speed was, I saw it on AMD Overdrive, and speaking t Overdrive does anyone know what you can do with it, I saw some settings that were for turbo and other for cores and hypertransport and other things. So Far the only benchmarks I have run are WEI and weirdly the last three runs my memory went form 7.2 to 7.3 to 7.4, and the benchmark in AMD overdrive, used AMD system monitor to also confirm that WEI was running on the dGPU, but iGPU was also occasionally active.
Only played 1 game so far, World of Tanks, and It runs with 1080p and medium-high settings constantly around 20 fps, which seems really smooth for me (no issues other than lag spikes die to ping once in a while. I have Assassin's Creed III installed but haven't had the chance to play it. I have 6 games on steam (including Metro) so I will test those too later.

 

Reading through this thread has made me sad. So, still no killer AMD laptop yet. And a shame, too. I had such high expectations after the success of the x120e. I thought Lenovo would step up and expand.

 

Anyone heard about AMD Hondo tablet, which was announced earlier in October and which could overkill other Tablets by its overall performance and full Windows 8 support?

 

I purchased a used g4-2275 for cheap and am debating on if I should swap in the a8-4500 I have now or order a a10-4600 and swap that in. I'm debating because when the next gen apu come out 2013 I've read they will maintain the same socket for desktop so I'm hoping it will be the same for laptops. Anyone have anything concrete on kaveri yet?

On a side note how is the overdrive overclocking on the a8-4500? Is it able to clock or get bigger performance gain since it's clocked lower and less units than a10?

 

If your waiting for Kaveri, sadly it won't come out in 2013, only Trinity 2.0 but that's probably a better new for you, since it should be more compatible. In any case BIOS compatibility should be bigger issue than socket.

 

Someone has already done the switch before in that model and it worked. Trinity 2.0 does sound nice though, I think I'll do the a8 for now since I have another with that in it and I'll wait to see what new comes down the line.

Any comments on overdrive overclocking on a8 though? I haven't seen much on net about it since amd released this feature. I mainly play sc2 and d3 on laptop. Also has anyone used 1866 ram on g4 and have it recognize it?

 

Good to hear? It will likely only run at 3.2 GHz at idle. Am interested in seeing a brief review and benches too.