The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

I would have except that you void the warranty by opening the laptop, which I did to see if I could add a second stick of RAM, and couldn't.

This WAS the A8 Trinity.

I don't think there is a difference, I couldn't find it. Not sure why the designation difference.

That being said Best Buy i showing the Asus K55n for $339, although no web orders and "in store only" although it doesn't show available in any stores, lol. I'd pick one of those up for $339 in a heartbeat.

 

apparently suffers from bad build quality. or elevated fail rate, whatever. but I could fix...
checking my area, only one store, way down in south san antonio, claims to have one. I'm lazy.

 

here we go: kingsize at a bargain price of 410.
HP Pavilion 17.3" Laptop 4GB Memory 640GB Hard Drive g7-2275dx - Best Buy

 

Yeah, I have the Trinity version, but sounds too complicated, having TV with Widi adapter, Intel GPU, etc.. I'll just hook up with HDMI. But thanks for the info!

 

It does sound complicated, but I'm not sure if you have to have an Intel GPU, if you have the Centrino Wifi it might work. I think you have the A6 version, because I have seen it include WiDi in the description. Oddly enough the A10 doesn't have it in the feature list. Sounds like copy and paste to me from the 13.3'' intel model.

 

I made a copy and paste from Amazon's Samsung Series 5 NP535U4C-A01US page, which sounds like equipped with Intel Wireless:
" Additionally, this Series 5 535 notebook includes award-winning Intel Wireless Display functionality, which enables you to enjoying great image clarity and sound on your HDTV without plugging in any cables."
I'm also before to buy a Samsung TV, so I might would go for a compatible one?

 

I don't know if Samsung TVs are compatible, because the Intel website only lists LGs and Toshibas, but if you are buying a high end TV, I would still go for a Samsung.

Since WiDi 3.5 now supports Miracast you can connect your laptop to other Miracast compatible devices. It seams like Samsung has the only Mitacast Certified TV (Echo P series) which isn't even out yet. I think the newest version of PS3 also supports WiDi, so you might use that as an adapter if you have one.
Here are some laptop requirements from intel http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wtech/iwd/sb/CS-031059.htm[/URL
Adapters aren't that expensive, Amazon has a sale on one right now http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055R0YK4/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p147_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1T7G4VJZRD2KTN3WYM5T&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1389517282&pf_rd_i=507846 ($80)

Also here is what I have seen from Amazon about the A6 and the A10
A10
Wireless & Networking

Wireless-N Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n) for fast connectivity to home and business networks (requires Wireless-N router to optimize speed and range).
Next-generation Bluetooth 4.0 connectivity provides faster throughput while minimizing on power requirements. Backward compatible with older Bluetooth-enabled peripherals such as printers and cell phones.
Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000)

A6
Wireless & Networking

Wireless-N Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n) for fast connectivity to home and business networks (requires Wireless-N router to optimize speed and range).
Intel Wireless Display functionality (requires adapter)
Next-generation Bluetooth 4.0 connectivity provides faster throughput while minimizing on power requirements. Backward compatible with older Bluetooth-enabled peripherals such as printers and cell phones.
Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000)

Also some Android phones like the Galaxy S3 are Miracast certified, and anything with Android 4.2 and Wifi Direct will also support it.
As for the Current Samsung TVs, I'm not sure, they have Wifi Direct, so they might as well decide to update to enable Miracast. They also have upgrade kits which you can use to upgrade TV (changes its processor, flash memory and other stuff) to make it functionally similar to a new one.

 

All right TV purchase not so important yet, I'll wait another year to have a Samsung with built in Wifi which would allow wireless TV connection. Spending another $80 for that adapter just would not make me happy, but thanks for the info bro!

 

For now I would say don't worry about all this, don't get anything with WiDi support, as your Laptop most likely doesn't have it. Go for something with Miracast support, as that's becoming the new standard, and wait for CES, a lot of good things should come out this year. And here is an article on AMD Wireless Display to keep you excited in the meantime.
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/09/05/amd-is-catching-up-in-the-wireless-display-game/#.UOX9tG_hrm4

 

I feel so dirty doing this, but this tempts me Newegg.com - lenovo IdeaPad Z580 (59347636) Notebook Intel Core i5 3210M(2.50GHz) 15.6" 6GB Memory 500GB HDD DVD±R/RW NVIDIA GeForce GT 635M
$574

 

cognus! What are you doing in the corner? Bad, bad, bad!!! This is the AMD Trinity thread!

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Nice system though...

 

Well other than being off topic, that's not really a great deal. The i5 3210M is not really better than n A10, and same with that rebranded fermi.

 

Since we already went off topic let me post this one too.
It seems that the Samsung Series 7 Chronos will not have a Trinity APU, but there is a bigger surprise waiting for you here Samsung teases Series 7 Chronos refresh with AMD Radeon HD 8870M graphics (video)

 

Thick, expensive, barely faster CPU and GPU than A10-4600M itself. Cognus, what is happening with you?

I always loved Samsung Series 7 design, but this has the most awesome looking! We were hoping coming with Trinity APU, however this time I would consider this I7+ 8870M combo to buy.
I'm just concerned about temperatures and fan noise; 45W I7 + ~45-65W 8870M together might heating awfully much in this thin case!?

 

Although the i7 quad sounds like much, I'm not too worried about the GPU. From what I have heard the 8870M isn't as fast as the 7870M but much more power efficient.
Here is more info on two different models Samsung Shows Off New Series 7 Ultra, Refreshes Series 7 Chronos, and Drops New Series 7 Monitors - Industry News - Overclockers Club.

 

We should include Vizio in the list of OEMs with Trinity APU powered notebooks!

Vizio refreshes its PC lineup: all new models have touchscreens, quad-core CPUs

And also an Hondo tablet.

Vizio debuts its first Windows 8 tablet, an 11-inch slate with a 1080p display, AMD processor

I'll eagerly wait for reviews of this tablet. Full Windows 8, a Full HD display are a great combo. Lets see if the Z-60 can provide good battery life.
Great news for AMD in my opinion since the Vizio notebooks are beautiful machines with great specs even if they have a terrible keyboard and trackpad.

 

I noticed the 7620G that goes into the 25W A10-4655 is listed in notebookcheck right above the nVidia 5200M in performance (which goes in Lenovo T430s laptops).

just saying it for comparison purposes

 

I added it to the list, thanks.

I hope Vizio improved the touchpads and keyboards for these Trinity models. So were talking touchscreens, A10 quad-core APUs, 900p/1080p resolution (IPS I think, correct me if I'm wrong) displays? Sounds good so far, hoping for dual-channel RAM and mSATA and 9mm drive bay (I'm not even sure what the current Vizios are using), and the design isn't terrible either. I might considering buying one (mid-February release).


Id like to see more on the Fujitsu and this new Vizio tablet. I like this Vizio tablet and would consider buying i toot. All good stuff

 

Vision in Vizio

More Trinity machines from HP:

 

I might need to read that article - the quote there sounds no different from the Envy 4 and Envy 6 sleekbooks they released a year ago except for the touchscreen option.

Edit: Nope, read it - doesn't sound any different. Maybe the build quality's lower since it's "Pavilion" and not "Envy"?

 

These are the cheaper Pavilion Sleekbooks which announced in 2012 September with Intel and AMD E series (Brazos) APUs. This time they are coming with AMD A series (Trinity) APU.

 

wow, i'm real glad about these new laptops!

i need a laptop for work, where i'm basically programming in eclipse, so i really need a good big screen, since ecplise has all those panes! so i think a 15.6" 1080p screen should do the job, plus trinity of course! until these new ones launch, there were three satisfying lappys, but they were all for gamers, with big gpu's and power hungry 35w chips. so i waited. it's hard to believe such a laptop hasn't yet come out!

so maybe i'll get a cheap pavillion thin and light trinity 15.6 1080p lappy? it might be real cheap? but the build quality... errr :-/. me and my first world problems .

i guess there will be more announcements with CES, right? is this the time of year a bunch of designs come out or something? i want to buy soon.

 

You can customize a HP Envy DV6z with 1080p screen without discrete graphics. The build quality is good and AMD's 35W APU is not too power hungry, see the power consumption review in my signature.
The other 1080p 15.6" option is the Asus N56DP, but include a discrete 7730M graphics. Hopefully coming soon more information about the Vizio laptop...

 

Ive personally seen this new Intel 15.6" Pavilion Sleekbook and i have to admit its actually attractive and is a very thin and relatively lightweight laptop. Other than that, I didnt get a chance to really play around with it like i would've liked to but first impression was good. I thought HP had given up on the A-series Sleekbook, but looks like I was wrong. I wonder if it'll ve dual-channel memory capable?

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I successfully swappd my a8 into a g4-2275. Much better than the a6, my only complaint is the small battery.

 

The difference is that these Sleekbooks are touchscreen.
HP introduces new 15-inch Sleekbooks with touchscreens and AMD | Digital Trends

 

So at CES today, AMD presented the new Low power Kabini and Temash APUs. Quad Kabini was shown putting Core i3s to shame, and Dual Temash to be fastest X86 tablet CPU.

So, looks like Kabini Quads will be replacing low end Trinitys A4, and A6 at least.

 

*Putting i3's to shame when the workloads were heterogeneous and utilizing the GPU cores. Still cool.

 

ooh, that vizio 15.6 looks cool! hope it comes soon! and i hope there are more thin trinities with 1080p.

so Richland is shipping to OEMs now? what's the deal with Richland? i looked it up and didn't find much. it's still 32nm SOI and all that? it's not a 28nm bulk part, right? it's shipping now, but it's sucessor is shipping later this year? any idea when i can get it in a lappy? i'm so confused, thanks!

 

I see Vizio will kill Dell within few years! Richland APU still on 32nm and brings increases in both CPU and graphics along with improvements in battery life. In GPU front that is about 20 percent to up to 40 percent. These improvement will surly keep AMD's big GPU lead front of Intel's upcoming generation, I hope we will see a 45W part with 1866MHz DDR3 Memory support too. Than later Kaveri APU is on 28nm...

 

We already got information from CES about AMD's future and it looks promising!
Richland seems to be the rumored Trinity 2.0 and Kaveri, which will arrive in 2H13 is the 28nm replacemente for it.
Temash and Kabini also seem to be extremely promising.

In the GPU front, a jump of every platform to 28nm GCN is great news.

As for notebooks, it seems that we only got to know the HP Sleekbook, the Asus U38N and the move from Vizio that announced a full line-up with Trinity.
Vizio's move is the most promising IMO. They're an up and coming OEM, and by using Trinity they'll be able to undercut other OEMs. Their notebooks are beautifully designed and the only weak point is a mediocre keyboard.

 

ok, so richland is trinity 2.0. gotcha. so it's the same silicon just tweaked real good. and it's shipping to OEMs now. which means there's a good chance this vizio will use richland, right?

 

I would assume so. Since Vizio didn't mention which A10 APU it is specifically using we could assume that it is a Richland APU.

 

Seen this on AMD's Facebook, In case anyone is thinking about buying the new A-series Sleekbooks:

"To celebrate the new HP Pavilion TouchSmart Sleekbook that offers quality graphics, high-performance game play and immersive audio / video making the most of the AMD A-series APU AMD and HP are offering $125 off select Sleekbooks. Use HP125AMD at http://bit.ly/VKugKs"

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if released March then I'd expect to be able to buy in May!

 

High hopes for vizio. They've hit an interesting spot in the wintel space; hi res displays, fairly sleek, not too pricey. jury out on QA

 

Sorry to get a little off topic but since it's CES I'm very excited.
First AMD showed Dirt Showdown running on a Temash based Tablet at 1080p! AMD Temash hands-on: basic Windows gaming on a 1080p tablet | The Verge

Also Panasonic has shown a 20 inch tablet with a 4K screen. I guess it won't be too long before we start seeing laptops with 4K displays! Panasonic pushes prototype pixels: 4K Windows 8 tablet | CES 2013: Computers and Hardware - CNET Blogs

 

in this video, the vizio VP sort of brags that they're not even using those crappy ULV chips, and that they have discrete graphics. except that i want a ulv chip and no discrete graphics. so the new visio 15.6er is basically a thinner sexier asus n56dp with much more questionable build quality. correct me if i'm wrong.

AMD at CES 2013 -- AMD and VIZIO's Showcase New Lineup - YouTube

maybe HP will give me what i want, but probably minus the build quality??

 

Why is the Vizeo build quality in question? And you get singature windows, with no bloatware on Vizio.

Vizio light and thin 14" with an A10 and 1600x900 display coming.

 

It's not Vizio build quality that is in question. They just did a poor choice for the keyboard.

This article has some benchmark values for the new generation of APUs and it looks quite impressive:

 

Loving all the good news from AMD at CES this week. The roadmaps look intriguing and im excited to see these new APUs come to market.


Soo... should we change the title of the thread to...

"The Ultimate AMD Trinity-Richland Notebook List?" Or similar?

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Maybe start a new one for Richland?

 

That did cross my mind too. But how many Richland notebooks can possibly come out? Trinity was scarce as it is and I don't expect a ton of Richland options (besides the recent ones from Asus, HP, and Vizio). I hope im wrong.

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Let's just hope, even if AMD makes no further gains in the next year or so, that the rumored BGA-exclusive Broadwell generation garners a lot of bad press for Intel and helps AMD grab some much-needed, and well-deserved market share.

If only there were a simple way to reprogram the notion so many uneducated (and educated) notebook buyers have that a faster processor is everything they need when there's a cheaper, more balanced option at their fingertips. Sure, most of those buyers will never use 20% of the CPU speed even of a Trinity APU before they throw out the notebook because of a hard drive failure, but at least they'll save some money and support a more-deserving company.

 

Lastly, Richland is essentially Trinity 2.0, I dont feel like maintaing 2 threads, but someone else could start it up.

Kaveri, kabini and temesh deserve their own threads too and I wouldn't mind following up with an Ultimate kaveri thread. Although kaveri and kabini could be grouped and temesh in a separate tablet thread.

That Vizio 14" thin and light caught my attention. In one of the AMD videos they mentioned the use of full power (non-ULV) A10s.

What it must pass for me to buy it:
-Quality and tactile backlit keyboard
-Responsive and accurate touchpad
-Quality "HD/FULL-HD" IPS-like display
-Long lasting and efficient battery life
-Does not overheat, severe throttling due to engineering/manufacturing defects

It checks off most of my points, so now we wait for pricing and availability. Can't wait to see the first reviews.

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Okay, so let me get this straight (too many codenames!): Hondo is lesser than the E-series and intended for tablets and maybe phones. Temash is the folllow-up to Hondo. Brazos is the wimpy E-series for netbooks and budget notebooks, and Kabini is its successor. We know Trinity as the A8 and A10 lineup, and Richland is basically a mid-life update to Trinity, while Kaveri will be its real successor.

Have I got it within a margin of error?

 

The Vizio notebooks won't be like that. You already have versions of them for sale.
The keyboard isn't backlit and is of poor quality, they improved the trackpad, the display resolution is 1600x900, battery we don't know.

I wouldn't do a new list for Richland notebooks. Just update the title of this thread to reflect that.

When Kaveri and Kabini are launched, a new thread should be created for the notebooks with those APUs since they'll be branded A4/A6/A8/A10.
For Temash devices we should wait and see if there'll be enough devices to warrant a separate thread. Otherwise we should consolidate everything in one.

Also:

Kaveri: Richland/Trinity successor. 28nm, Steamroller cores and GCN GPU.
Kabini: Brazos/low-end Trinity successor. 28 nm, Jaguar cores, GCN GPU.
Temash: Hondo successor. 28nm.

 

No need for a separate Richland thread, since it is also Trinity 2.0. I doubt many will update their Trinity lineup with Richland for there to be many new models, most likely OEMs will just skip it since it will be short lived by the time Kaveri surfaces. As for Kabini and Temash we can just group those in a Jaguar thread, since there should also be some convertibles coming out with Kabini too.

 

Hopefully, all of the Trinity notebooks we have been looking at just get refreshed with Richland APUs. Or you can upgrade the ones you already have. I think Kabini is replacing the A4 and A6 variant of Trinity though. So although not the same architecture its in the lineup.

Kabini is supposed to be 50% better performance than Brazos2.0, and most OEMs already hamstring A4s and A6s with single channel RAM anyway. One thing is has going for it is GCN graphics vs Richland and Trinity with VLIW4. Thats partly why its running with the bigger boys. That and it doesnt follow the same core format of 2 integer units to 1 floating point unit considered two cores like Trinity.

 

I really hope refreshed laptops, because the ULVs performance really jumped due to 1600MHz DDR3 Memory. The Richland 19W? A8-5545M makes 1100 3DMark 11, which is more than Trinity A10-4655M 25W capability...
I agree to not open new topic for Richland APU, but later for Kaveri, Kabini and Temash.

I think if people would start realize how great is AMD these days, than the company really could go up. Hopefully PS4 and Xbox760 will help them!