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    The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by davidricardo86, Jul 10, 2012.

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    No, it's locked. There's software out there for Trinity like PSCheck but it won't do anything because it's locked.
     
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    Review HP ProBook 4545s C5D26ES Notebook (A4-4300M) by notebookcheck

    Florian Wimmer (translated by Ariana Brodsky), 01/25/2013

     
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    I just ordered my 6475b! Only 650 when buying refurbished, I add a docking station bundle and totaled out to 810 dollars. Sure I only get a one year warranty, but that's probably about when I'd be looking to upgrade the processor to Richland if I am able to anyhow. I'll post a review once I get it. Now the waiting begins!
     
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    Mind sharing the rest of the specs? and which dock you got? I'm interested in one of their docks but I'm not familiar with whats available for the 6475b.
     
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    Sure! It was the A10 4600, 8 gb ram, HD+ screen 1600x900, 500 gb hd. I got the 90w dock, they had an add on deal for 99 dollars (it also had keyboard mouse, I doubt I'll use but whatever).. I think it's normally 180, but they probably have a better deal in that outlet. You have to call to see what inventory they have on a daily basis, and so it took two days of calling for me to get it, but if you try at 8am MST the new list has just come out. Looks like they sell 4 or so A10s a day in my 3 day sample. (Yes, way too small to draw many conclusions but still something!)
     
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    Finally arrived my beautiful Samsung;

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    but have no idea, how to take it apart;

    [​IMG]

    I removed 11 screws at the bottom and nothing moving, like a one piece laptop. I cannot even found a place where possible to tear, expect the DVD area ... An user guide would be useful.
     
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    This is a great alternative. I love checking out the Dell, Lenovo and now HP outlet stores for bargains on business-class notebooks. Seems like you got a pretty good deal buying this way. I checked out the HP outlet real quick and noticed some of the 6475bs had a 128GB SSD. I wonder if that's an mSATA SSD like it says in the service manual or a 2.5" SSD. Pretty cool though.

    Nice! Glad you finally got it. What if you check Samsung's site for a service manual? Sometimes there's a disassembly section in the maintenance and service guides. Keep us posted.
     
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    I will add an ssd on my own, hopefully it doesn't mess with hp and their warranty. The only questions whether to use the intel 330 out of my old laptop or to buy a new one and put it in there
     
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    According to the 6475b/6470b Service Support Manual these parts can be serviced without violating the warranty.

    Serviceability
    End user replaceable parts:
    ● AC adapter
    ● Battery
    ● Hard drive
    ● Keyboard
    ● Memory module
    ● mSATA drive
    ● Optical drive
    ● Solid-state drive
    ● WLAN module
    ● WWAN module

    Only you can answer the second question bud! ;)
     
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    Thanks for doing my research for me! I will agonize over this one a bit. Probably just swap in the old one as I'm not flush with cash.
     
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    Vizio’s director of product and development for computing and mobility about their AMD line-up. Lots of compliments tossed in AMD's way. :)

     
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    trying to figure that out too. oh well
     
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    Well my laptop just arrived at the fed ex office! Can't wait to get done with work so I can go get it and start playing with it. Valentine's day, you are a distant second to new computer day. Haha
     
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    Good read. But I don't agree with a lot of it.

    Touch screens are good for handheld portable devices primarily. Most people don't want their laptop screens smudged with fingerprints. SD card slots are a necessity IMHO. I can't believe that so many people are naive considering pretty much every handheld device with a camera has an SD card slot if not only for photos, but also for transferring videos and music. Having extra *and* removable storage is a necessity.

    On the positive side, I think AMD is a great choice, the only choice really. You don't need raw CPU performance with handhelds. And thank you for adding extra battery capacity. If they can work on reducing power consumption from the device level you should be able to go all day on wi-fi no problem.
     
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    There is still nothing with trinity A8, 11"-12.5", under 1.5kg and 1000USD ?
     
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    What did you end up settling with?

    Sadly no. Not sure to be mad or sad. Why hasn't the HP DM1z been offered with an ULV Trinity APU?
     
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    I went with the A10, fully pimped version. 650 from the outlet store. I was slightly disappointed with the amount of crap that came on the computer, but pleasantly surprised to be given all the disks i needed to do a clean install/get my drivers back. business class for the win.

    after tossing in an intel 180gb 330, this baby is nice. i am downloading games right now-SC2 just done, DOTA 2 and Civ 5 on the way.

    so far i've been really impressed with the temps of this laptop. i haven't really put it under load, but great idle/light use temps. i'll do a review certainly. i don't know how other people feel about the looks of this machine, but i love the old school swag it has.

    on a side note-i have 4 DOTA 2 passes if anyone is interested.
     
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    I'm new to much of this element of the computer scene. I've been playing computer games for a long time, but not really into the technical stuff enough to know what would be useful for review other than my own personal usage and real world scenarios. What sort of free benchmarks should I be running?
     
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    anyone remember when the 1st trinity notebook available ?
     
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    AMD released a new video and in it the quad core Temash (Tablet version of Jaguar) scored 1.39 in Cinebench 11.5 and 537 in 3DMark11 with just a single crappy 2GB DDR3-1066 module!
    And since PS4 is also gona run on Jaguar (on 8 cores though) I hope these things will turn into portable gaming beasts!
     
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    That's with dual graphics, i.e. IGP 7640G + dedicated card 7610M, and I can guarantee that there is micro stuttering issues up the wazoo still. I can get about 1200 3DMark 11 with just the A10-4600m, so 1600 doesn't seem so great with a dedicated card. That 7610m itself should manage 1500+. The one advantage of the dedicated card is also it'd dedicated vRAM. I don't want to sound negative but I'd like to see ability to run 2133MHz vRAM and O/C GPU like Llano which would make the 7660G IGP likely reach 1500+ 3DMark 11 on its own.
     
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    yes, yes, and yes.
    my experience; nexus 7 led me directly to samsung galaxy note. reasons:
    - if i'm going to hold with one hand and smudge/smear with the other, why did I think I needed that much real estate? the average web page looks about same on 7 as on 5.3. either way you adjust the zoom to suit. both have essentially the same resolution [720p fabulous on either]
    - better battery life. removable battery.
    - SD
    - pocketable - just barely...
    - I still obsessively keep hands clean if I can [not easy if on motorcycle ride...], but smudges on 7" of real estate, much more on 10... its just obscene. i can quickly clean 5.3... or quicker
    - side issue but the audio is better on the Note - by far.

    I think that when something like saturation sets in in the handset/phablet space, notebook sales will benefit if any mftrs are still interested in actually INNOvating on notebooks. for me personally a convertible is not that interesting unless it was something like a 6" ... hard to imagine that.

    battery life is the number one thing, I think, to people who are experienced with handhelds and notebooks. for people just trying to live their life, do their jobs, navigate commutes, etc the avg notebook out there is just a nuisance, by comparison, re: batt life.

    other thoughts: sure would like to see all notebooks coming with at least 2 sd slots with retainers.. maybe even micro-sd. small primary ssd, two slots for 64gb sd's..
     
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    i posted a basic review in the HP 6475b Owners thread. Check it out if you want more info on a great Trinity laptop!
     
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    Amazing! I'm definitely looking forward to this product from AMD.
     
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    If it's basically the 2335dx, then yes.
     
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    What kind of storage on that thing. Hopefully they use a standard msata slot so you can throw in whatever you want. Hope they don't throw in a measly 64GB proprietary NAND drive and call it a day.
     
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    That is up to the manufacturer to decide what to put in there. Since this is a Compal reference design AMD won't be selling it so the only concerns they had in building this thing were aesthetics/external features and the capabilities of the Processor and the dock itself, hence they neglected mentioning some of the insides.
     
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    I noticed a 14" on Best Buys deal of the day with an A6 for $320, which if you can drop in an A10 that would be great.
     
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    And your picture is broken, so not only we can't see it, we have absolutely no idea what the model is.
     
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    That's spam. :rolleyes: I noticed this last night because that was something I wrote back when this thread was started. I laughed too knowing it would soon be removed, like a lot of other spam bots making posts.


    EDIT: More on AMD's Temash APUs and the tablet prototype.

    AMD Temash chips promise proper tablet gaming - hands-on - See more at: http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tabl...r-tablet-gaming-hands-on#sthash.yXcb1nzF.dpuf
     
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    Yeah, I read that one yesterday, and there are even more jaguar/Temash articles today. Seems like a lot of the tech journalists are impressed.
     
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    Hopefully more Temash based Tablet coming than Hondo :D. Any news of standard voltage Richland in 14" Vizio?
     
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    Just for fun, let me ask the collective this: if you were FORCED to buy a sub-14" notebook today, which one would you buy, having Radeon gpu [ded. or shared] ????
     
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    If it was only sub 14'', then the ASUS U38N or NOTHING! Even though it's not released in the US and I would have to buy it overpriced from EU or Russia or where-ever else it's available at.

    And back to the previous topic, seems like what I said about tech people being impressed was an understatement.
    https://plus.google.com/+AMD/posts/XwyvoyfhTEm
     
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    Great news, Richland uses the same socket as Trinity, so unless there are BIOS/Motherboard issues it should be drop-in replaceable.
    AMD demonstrated it by buying an off the shelf HP Envy m6 and replacing the A8 Trinity with an A10 Richland and it just worked.

    MWC 2013: AMD demos HP-based Richland system | ITProPortal.com
    The article claims that the top of the line Richland runs at 4.1GHz and has 8670D, but thats the Desktop model, so don't be surprised.
     
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    Whoa, you just made my day Link4! A drop-in replacement (plug and play) was exactly what I was hoping for. This confirms this (I'd still have to confirm it myself with my 6475b), but if they're telling the truth (why would they lie?), then I'm very excited for this soon-to-be upgrade. Thanks for sharing!

    I haven't had a chance to dig up information so i appreciate any information regarding Richland or future APUs you guys may find.
     
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    just spotted: Samsung Series 5 Slim Notebook PC - AMD Dual-Core A6-4455M 2.1GHz, 4GB DDR3, 500GB HDD, AMD Radeon HD 7500G, 13.3" Display, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (NP535U3C-B01US)
    Tigerdirect
    $449
    Ends today [midnight... not sure of timezone]
     
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    More great news and details leaked! We finally have the details of mobile Richland APUs, and whats more the A10 supports DDR3-1866. All of the Richland models are 35W TDP parts but supposedly manufacturers will be able to adjust their TDP based on cooling available (seams like MSI had a hand in this (and GX60 owner feedback for that matter) since GX60 has a lot of room for cooling and 35W sounds underpowered. This points to two things, the more likely one being that manufacturers will be able to overclock these (finally!) and somewhat less likely consumer overclocking possibility, whether through AMD Overdrive, Vision Control Center or third party software. Turbo also seems to be improved as now it will be temperature smart according to AMD.

    Here is the link http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/455609/product_snapshot_amd_richland_apu/

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    Sadly the link appears to be broken (or deleted, i found it two days ago) so I will copy the text here instead

    AMD is trying to get noticed again in the notebook space with a new Accelerated Processing Unit (APU) codenamed Richland, which is based on, but improves on the previous APU, codenamed Trinity.

    The new APU puts graphics performance and power efficiency at the forefront of the computing experience, rather than plain old CPU power (even though that gets a slight boost, too). In an era where there appears to already be enough CPU power for everyday, mainstream computing tasks, squeezing more efficiency out of a chip and putting in better graphics performance makes sense, and AMD is hoping that with these traits, along with a few other value-added software features, it can make gains in a notebook market that has been dominated by Intel for as long as one can remember — the last AMD notebook we reviewed was actually a netbook.

    The Richland APUs will go by the name of the AMD Elite A-Series, and so far four models have been announced: the A10-5750M (quad-core), the A8-5550M (quad-core), the A6-5350M (dual-core) and the A4-5150M (dual-core). The A10 is the most powerful product in the line-up, featuring four cores a maximum potential frequency of 2.5GHz, while the A4 is the most modest with two cores and a maximum potential frequency of 3.3GHz.


    The different models and their main specs.

    The thermal design power (TDP) of all of the new APUs is 35W. This TDP puts the new Richland products in the same league as some of Intel's third generation Core i5 mobile CPUs, and it's also the same as some of AMD's Trinity notebook APUs, but those are slightly slower than Richland.

    Furthermore, faster DDR-3-1866 memory support has been added to the top APU model and the graphics frequencies also get a boost. The physical package between the Trinity and Richland products remains the same, but AMD says that the TDP in the Richland products can be configured according to the specific design needs of each notebook manufacturer.

    AMD's internal tests claim that Richland consumes slightly less power than Trinity while idle or when used for basic Web browsing, but that significant gains can be had when using the newer APU for 720p video playback.

    The reason for the increased efficiency, AMD claims, is due to significant changes to the controlling algorithms in the new APU, which are said to have more complexity. More operating points that determine the best speed and voltage of the APU (P-states) have been added, which AMD says can ensure that the APU will use an optimal operating point for each workload. Temperature-smart Turbo Core is the feature that AMD claims can increase the performance of the APU by detecting ambient temperature and the capability of the installed heat sink to calculate an attainable and sustainable overclocking point. AMD says this can be achieved due to the temperature headroom that's built in to the APU.

    Graphics is a big driver for the Elite A-Series APUs and the Richland models get a more powerful Radeon HD 8000 Series graphics capability built into them. AMD says that this graphics engine, which has DirectX 11 support, up to 384 cores and a maximum frequency of 720MHz in the top model, can noticeably out-perform the graphics in the Trinity chips, and it can even top the graphics performance of an Intel Core i7 CPU (as tested internally by AMD using the latest 3DMark benchmark).

    Another key selling point of Richland is a broader range of AMD-supplied software. Specifically, three new software programs are going to be made available for the new APU: AMD Gesture Control, AMD Face Login and AMD Screen Mirror. The Gesture Control software is said to be able to track a user's hand and recognise gestures that can be used to operate a media player or Web browser from almost 1m away from the screen. AMD Face Login, as the name suggests, will be able to recognise a user's face and use it in place of a password. It will do this by comparing the shape, size and position of a face to a stored image, and it will be useful for logging in to Web sites in addition to the operating system. The performance of these features will largely depend on the quality of the webcam that manufacturers install in their laptops.

    The final feature is perhaps the most interesting. AMD Screen Mirror harnesses the Wi-Fi Direct standard to beam an H.264 stream of a notebook's screen directly to a DLNA-capable TV on the other end. A feature like this will come in handy for displaying photos and videos on a big-screen display, and AMD claims the feature will be so low-latency that you'll even be able to browse the Web comfortably over it.

    There are no release dates for actual notebooks that will use this new APU in the Australian market, but we've been told that Acer, ASUS, HP, Toshiba, Samsung, Sony and Lenovo, in addition to some other as yet unconfirmed vendors, will all have models based on the Richland APUs at some point in the near future. It's been a long time since a hardware vendor actively pushed an AMD APU-powered notebook, so we look forward to testing any new models that may come our way.

    Edit 2:
    Here is another link for the same article, although this one lacks the table with all the APU data http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=819C8D6B-0C6E-091A-92D5D7320DCFB9FA

    As far as I can remember A10-5750m Quad Core 2.5GHz/3.5GHz Turbo Piledriver CPU and Radeon HD8650M GPU with 384SP (VLIW4?) clocked up to 720MHz, DDR3-1866/DDR3L-1600 support.
     
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    Yesterday there was an article about Kaveri supporting GDDR5 and having the controller integrated in the APU!!!
    Now there is more news and other than GDDR5 support it seams there also will be support for DDR4 and PCIe 3.0.
    Also it seems like Kaveri will be ditching dual core variants and come with 4-6 Steamroller cores (we finally get 6 core APUs! and hopefully in laptops too), and not only do we get Kaveri details this time but also info on Steamroller core improvements!

    Here is the link Analysis: AMD Kaveri APU and Steamroller Core Architectural Enhancements Unveiled - Bright Side Of News*
     
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    Hope this means, we will have the ability to increase or decrease our APUs power limits (TDP) by adjusting slider in Catalyst Control Center or wherever. This +1866MHz DDR3 what we need from Richland to be satisfied. Two more days to go...
     
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    So, with this new piece of information regarding Richland, would you say it's probable that we would be able to upgrade the APU of an ultra portable, such as (or specifically) the Asus Vivobook U38n, or is the upgrade path more of a "paper product".

    I am strongly condidering buying an U38n, and really like the fact that the RAM is expandable to 10 GB. If you can also upgrade the APU, this ultrabook sibling is truly one of a kind in terms of being future proof.

    Btw, my first post in whar seems to be a great forum. Hi everyone! :)
     
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    U38n uses A10-4655m from what I can tell, which is a BGA or soldered CPU, so you won't be able to swap it out.
     
  50. iamflang

    iamflang Notebook Guru

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    HP outlet store is having a sale on all HP probook series notebooks. HP 6475b W7P-64 AMD A6 4400M 2.6GHz 320GB 4GB DVDRW 14.0HD WLAN BT AMD HD 7520G Cam Rmkt NB PC $383, HP 6475b W7P-64 AMD A10 4600M 2.3GHz 500GB 8GB(2DM) DVDRW 14.0HD+(1600x900) WLAN BT Cam Rmkt NB PC, $519

    pretty sweet deal
     
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