The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

First impression: USB 3.0 is not working.

Solution

Install all USB, SATA, etc. Controllers from the file linked before in Real_GM's post (the first mention of 12.9 around a dozen post before this one)

Then Install all video/GPU related stuff from the 12.9 beta linked in davidricardo86's post (1 post above this one)


Also, here's an updated version of AMD Catalyst CAP (12.9 CAP 1):
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/pages/crossfirex-app-profiles.aspx

Update

I used to get P1976. I ran 3DMark11 again and got P2141

Update 2
Laptop screen flashes when browsing web pages. Happens some times when you scroll through a page, or refresh a page.
At this point I advise people to not try upgrading yet.

Update 3
USB is not detecting my USB mic properly; instead it's being detected as an external display, and my USB mic is not usable.
Repeat: I do not advise anyone to install the upgrade at this point in time
Installed USB drivers from original package makes it work.

 

Man, what a ty review. These reviewers love to perpetuate a bad image of AMD even when they have a good product in their hands.

 

Get a load of this:

Oh really? Duh, neither can the HD4000. What is the point? That isn't exactly the goal when your'e dealing with an ULV APU (that cannot do dual-graphics). This review, like a lot of other reviews, was done using single channel RAM, no good. It wasn't even mentioned that in some regions this notebook is available with a dGPU 7550M.

 

are there 14"'er's with decent resolution or has that traffic divided into bigger/smaller forms??
I don't see the viability of 14" ff moving forward, especially with a veritable deluge of tablets coming, with HDMI, high res OLED screens etc etc

and I hate to say it 'cause I root for AMD, but they shot themselves in the foot with bad positioning on this refresh. the pre-release hype was "better, more powerful, faster, lower energy" but what they delivered was not.
They will be consigned to the cheap bargain-bin notebook category. somewhere down the line one of the mftrs will get tired of the slow moving inventory and start a pricewar on amd units

 

The Trinity APUs were better than Llanos. They have higher CPU and GPU performance and they usually offer competitive battery life with Intel offerings. They didn't catch up exactly with Intel in terms of CPU performance but that will only happen when they move away from Bulldozer as the base architecture. Untill then they have too play with the bad hand they have.

 

bargain bin upcoming Staples San Antonio Staples Weekly Ad

this is the Envy Sleekbook apparently, at $399 this coming week :hi2:

 

CNET have been dog snot for years now, the worst part is that they're such a big company so they won't go away and people keep believing their crap.

Bah.

 

Lowest yet! Get it while its hot


@Hahutzy
I'm running 12.9 beta, 12.8 chipset drivers, and 12.9 cap1.

Catalyst 12.9_01 by davidc646, on Flickr

My dgpu is shown as a 7400M Series gpu. The only problem I've noticed so far is trying to run Minecraft or any OpenGL application with Dual-Graphics (crossfire) ON with my 7450m (6470m) versus using only the integrated 6620G.. Run it once, it shows dgpu activity and plays excellent. Run it twice, artifacts and UI discoloration occur and the window remains a solid black doing nothing. Must reboot to get rid of this.

I'm still using them. I notice there's a weird but defined horizontal line (about 75% of the way up the display) I can see when playing 3D games like BF3. I will try reverting to 12.8.

 

You know, it should probably stop surprising me by now. But I still am amazed by what people get money for writing sometimes. ..I wonder which relative of the editor wrote that review, though..

 

I think we should refresh the Trinity 3DMark11 table in the second post to:

A6-4455M 17W: P571+
A6-4400M 35W: P803
A8-4500M 35W: P959
A10-4655M 25W: P1030
A10-4600M 35W: P1338 :thumbsup:

 

Done! Fixed that for ya. :thumbsup:

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Thanks! This one was missing for a while. On the list it goes.

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BREAKING NEWS!!!
-New ULV APU details officially revealed.

A8-4555M 2.4GHz/1.6GHz x 4 cores in 19W + 4MB cache + 384units@424/320MHZ
Ultrathin Notebooks With AMD Accelerated Processors

The S405 will be available with this APU and I'm hoping so will the Pavilion Sleekbook. I hope the battery life will be excellent, even though these ULV APU laptops use 4-cell batteries.! Its 1W above Brazos 2.0 yet is quad core, dual channel memory capable, uses DDR3/DDR3L/DDR3U for power saving and a much stronger Radeon GPU. Whats not to like?

Spoiler

AMD A-Series LV and ULV Accelerated Processor Model Number and Feature Comparisons

Model

CPU Clock Speed

CPU Cores on Die

TDP

Total L2 Cache

Radeon™ Cores on Die4

GPU Clock Speed

DIRECTX® Version

UVD

DDR3 Speed

AMD A-Series Accelerated Processors

A10-4655M

2.8GHz
/2.0GHz

4 cores

25W

4MB

384

496/360 MHZ

11

UVD

DDR3-1333
DDR3L-1333
/DDR3U-1066

A8-4555M

2.4GHz
/1.6GHz

4 cores

19W

4MB

384

424/320MHZ

11

UVD

DDR3-1333
DDR3L-1333
/DDR3U-1066

A6-4455M

2.6GHz
/2.1GHz

2 cores

17W

1MB

256

423/327 MHz

11

UVD

DDR3-1333
DDR3L-1333
/DDR3U-1066

A4-4355M

2.4GHz
/1.9GHz

2 cores

17W

1MB

192

424/327 MHz

11

UVD

DDR3-1333
DDR3L-1333
/DDR3U-1066

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How can we forget MSI's SuperRAID-capable GX60?

MSI GX60 Gaming Notebook Announced by notebookreview.com

Spoiler

MSI GX60 Specifications:

CPU: AMD Quad-Core A10-Series processor
OS: Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium
Chipset: AMD AM70 FCH
Memory: DDR3 1600MHz, support up to 16GB
LCD Size: 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) LED backlight, Anti-glare
Graphics: AMD RadeonTM HD 7970M Graphic Card
Graphics VRAM: 2GB GDDR5
Storage: 128GB Super RAID SSD + 750GB SATA 7200rpm HDD, 128GB Super RAID SSD + 500GB SATA 7200rpm HDD, two 750GB SATA 7200rpm HDDs, or two 500GB SATA 7200rpm HDDs
Optical Drive: BD Writer / Blu-ray / DVD Super Multi
Audio: Audio Boost, 2.1ch Speakers, THX TruStudio Pro virtual surround
Webcam: HD Webcam (30fps@720p)
Card Reader: SD(XC/HC)/MMC
LAN: 10/100/1000 Killer E2200 series
Wireless LAN: 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0
D-Sub (VGA): 1
HDMI: 1(v1.4)
USB 2.0 port: 1
USB 3.0 port: 3
eSATA: N/A
eSATA/USB Combo: N/A
Mic-in/Headphone-out: 1/1
Line-in: 1
Express Card: N/A
Modem port: N/A
AC Adapter: 180W
Battery: 9-cell Li-Ion
Dimensions: 395 x 267 x 55mm
Weight: 3.5kg

MSI has announced its upcoming MSI GX60 notebook, targeting gamers who are interested in portability without sacrificing on gaming performance. MSI has stated it will make use of AMD technology and hardware in order to create a gaming notebook that promises unsurpassed HD graphic processing for gaming on the go. This feature heavy gaming laptop could be an exciting option for gamers looking to ditch their desktops.

The 15.6-inch LED backlit LCD screen features a full HD anti-glare display with a resolution of 1920x1080. Audio Boost will be included so that the THX TruStudio Pro surround sound will be suited for headphones or speakers, allowing gamers to be immersed in their game. The MSI GX60 will include DDR3 1600MHz memory, which will be available in sizes up to 16GB.



The MSI GX60 will boast an AMD A10 4600M Quad Core Processor, allowing for faster processing when playing graphic intensive games. The AMD Radeon HD 7970M Discrete Class Graphics will offer high definition graphics, as well as the capabilities to handle 3D graphics. Integrated into the MSI GX60 will be AMD's Graphic Core Next (GCN) Architecture, which will optimize the performance of the GPU, allowing the notebook to efficiently reach max performance.

Gamers will be able to make use of up to three external displays with the MSI GX60, allowing for a panoramic gaming experience, thanks to the Eyefinity Multi-Display support; ports will include VGA, HDMP and mDP. The MSI GX60 will also be suited for 3D rendering as well as 3D video-editing. Killer Lan technology promises a smoother online gaming experience with less lag time and faster download speeds.

The MSI GX60 will also feature AMD Enduro technology, which maximizes battery life; an important feature for anyone playing graphic intensive games on the go. The AMD Enduro technology will have the ability to evaluate both graphics and application usage, and will turn off the discrete AMD Radeon HD GPU when it is not needed, saving on battery life.



A release date and price for the MSI GX60 has not been confirmed. However, MSI and AMD are marketing this notebook as high performance gaming with an affordable price. Gamers in the market for a new notebook might want to wait to see what the final price will be for this feature intensive laptop.

 

The A8-4555M seems like a great APU. It should've been available from the release of Trinity since it has a lower TDP.
Would love to see all those A6 ULV ultrathins with this APU as an option.

 

A bit off-topic but it seems that the desktop Trinity parts are great value for money and carved a nice niche in-between the Core i3 and i5 offerings being competitive with the former in most benchmarks, better handling games, with OC capabilities but higher power consumption and worse single-thread performance. However, it has a equivalent price.

 

I think the idea of a high end amd gaming laptop is awesome.
Any idea what it will cost when it is released?

 

If there was even a CHANCE of that happening it'll prob be December the earliest.

 

A bit off topic here but... "Is it any wonder Intel is back to their old ways of strong-arming OEMs if they make a Trinity laptop? S|A"



OEMs call Intel’s Haswell pricing, “Absurd”
You have to pay for that new brand somehow
Oct 3, 2012 in Channel
by Charlie Demerjian

Spoiler

Intel thinks Haswell is going to change Ultrabooks, but there is one big problem, price. If you recall, they are putting a large chunk of memory on the high end parts, and that doesn’t come cheap.
The idea is simple enough, put a large chunk of slow but wide memory close to the CPU and use it to save lots of power. Take that savings and use it for more GPU performance. The problem is that putting the memory on Haswell is complex, and low yields mean higher prices for the functional ones. On top of that, you have the cost of a complex and bespoke memory type that Intel has made specifically for the project. This all adds up.
Technically complex chips do cost, and if the company making them has a clue about marketing, they will price it in line with the value the device brings. One way to add value to a device is to market it as something desirable, basically to polish a turd. Intel is good at this, their whole iSomethingmeaningless marketing has convinced the not-totally-technical buyer that artificially removed parts are worth paying for to not have removed. They make literally billions by blowing fuses and blackmailing you in to paying them not to. That is marketing.
With Haswell, the ULV part with the Crystallwell memory costs more to make, but not a huge amount more. Think $5 or less for the DRAM, and maybe double that tally for construction losses. For this, Intel is trying to charge OEMs $50-60 on a CPU that already breaks the bank at $225 or so. Several OEMs contacted SemiAccurate recently to complain about Intel’s pricing, one calling it, “Absurd”, and that was the nice one.
Why do they think they can charge this much money? Marketing. Intel is going to make yet another moronic brand for the ULV/Ultrabook versions of Haswell, and make you pay for it. And pay. And pay. The concept worked well when Intel had a desirable product, but now, well, no one wants Ultrabooks, they are not an iPad or MacBook Air.
Ultrabooks are coming in at 1/4 of Intel’s sales projections for 2012, the economy is in shambles, and they are trying to sell fashion against Apple. What could go wrong with a vastly more expensive product in light of this? Intel is quick to counter bad news with specious numbers, but today the first touchscreen Ultrabook that SemiAccurate has seen announced, the Acer Aspire S7 took the price up to $1399. That is not a reduction in price as Intel has been promising. Told you so.
To fix this, Intel is going to jack up the price even more and back it with an ad campaign. OEMs are already balking at the price of Haswell GT3, and most are not yet aware of the additional handcuffs that this will bring. Consumers are not buying at the current prices, and OEMs know higher prices are untenable. Is it any wonder Intel is back to their old ways of strong-arming OEMs if they make a Trinity laptop?S|A

What do you guys think? Is AMD at an advantage or disadvantage as a result from not having Ultrabook-like devices? Can AMD even afford to do something like it? In what other ways could AMD compete against these "premium" products?

A year on, Ultrabooks are a worse disaster than most expected
Intel's failure was predictable, we predicted it
Oct 2, 2012 in analysis
by Charlie Demerjian

Spoiler

A year after SemiAccurate called Intel’s moronic Ultrabook spec “Shiny things for the stupid“, the world is coming around to our point of view. iSuppli has come out with the numbers to back us up too, looks like we were right all along.
Lets face it, Ultrabooks have failed because they are a fundamentally bad idea based on nothing more than Intel’s greed and fear. Intel is trying to compete against tablets and phones, and doesn’t have a clue how to do it. Ultrabooks are failing because there is no reason to buy one over a tablet or phone. Why? There are lots of reasons, but that is a separate topic. Lets just say that Intel is slavishly toeing the failed Microsoft line and not offering the consumer any real benefits. To compound the problem, they are jacking up their prices to unpalatable levels while squeezing any hope of profit from the OEMs. As we said over a year ago, there is no possibility of this debacle succeeding.
About 18 months later, iSuppli comes out with the numbers to back us up. Even with the hype, massive advertising campaigns, and second generation CPUs in place, Intel will be lucky to sell 25% of what they said. To make matters worse, the outlook is far gloomier than even iSuppli thinks, and we have good reason to believe no one other than Intel is making money. Why? The two bugaboos of the modern PC ecosystem, Intel’s greed and stupidity.
When we laughed at Intel’s theories on revolutionizing the laptop, we explained to them in great detail about why it would fail. They brushed it off and told us that fashion would conquer all. We laughed again and pointed out that it wasn’t a Macbook Air, but it did cost more, did less, and still wasn’t a Macbook. That last point is important enough to state twice. They replied that some people want fashion and not a Macbook Air. We conceded that point and the eight sales that went with it, but still questioned where the other 39,999,992 customers would come from.
Intel retorted that some people wanted or needed Windows. Parallels was brought up. They dismissed it outright calling it too complex. By now, their excuses had taken a sharp right turn from any reality SemiAccurate exists in, fighting Apple on fashion, and fighting the complexity of MacOS with Windows. To give them points, they did not try and bring up security and whatever nebulous threats McAfee made up that week.
When it came to tech, Intel pointed out that the initial Ultrabook designs were just that, a first attempt. The real versions would come out in about a year when Ivy Bridge CPUs hit the market. By then, the money they were investing in the Ultrabook Fund would drop tooling costs radically as volumes spiked, and the new “do everything” Ultrabooks would change my mind. They didn’t mention how the funds contractually exclude manufacturers from working with AMD, but that is another tangent. We laughed.
A year later, Ivy Bridge came out. The tooling ramped up, the new materials that will revolutionize everything appeared, and the second (third?) generation Ultrabooks hit the market. Initial tests showed that the battery life still was untenable, the features were still lacking, the costs were still shatteringly high, almost unchanged from a year prior, and everything that made Ultrabooks unpalatable then made Ultrabooks unpalatable now. Performance was better than before but still laughable compared to a less expensive, more functional, and slightly thicker laptop.
We brought this up to Intel, again pointing out why the category was a failure, and how it was doomed by their own greed. Intel will not address that problem because any fix would directly affect their margins, and that is one thing that will never change. Instead, they said that we should just try one, and then we would see the wonders that were Ultrabook. We asked them to supply us one. They promised to do so. And didn’t. Again and again and again.
Every time, there was a new excuse. Eventually they started insisting that we run specific OSes, run specific tests, and only do the things that they proposed or they would not supply us one. If we deviated at all, either in testing or writing, we would miss out on the wonders of Ultrabooks. We told them to get bent again. After about a dozen rounds of this, SemiAccurate gave up, but Intel is still more than happy to supply any site willing to give the category good reviews with as many as needed, prototypes, upcoming concept hardware, and anything else they need. If you hinted at an honest review however, you got lied to.
At IDF, Intel is now doing a word replace with the text on why the next generation will change everything. When Haswell CPUs come out, you will see. When the third, or is it fourth now, generation of Ultrabooks come out, they will revolutionize everything. And once again, Intel fails to address a single one of the Ultrabook’s problems, price included.
Instead, Intel is about to compound Ultrabook’s problems once again. How? Greed. The long promised $699 price point that the second third far future maybe generation Ultrabooks will possibly come close to is receding rapidly. The second generation is still no cheaper than the first, often more expensive in most cases due to feature creep. The ones that go below $1000, some even reached $800, are unusable fragile plasticky garbage that no sane person would buy. That includes the subset of customers that would not buy it over a tangibly better quality $400 notebook even though it has an Ultra- prefix.
To fix this, Intel is doing two things, and both are horrifically and comically wrong. They are vastly increasing the price of Haswell over Ivy Bridge, and are mandating feature creep. The category could not break $1000 without fatally compromising quality is now having a feature list that will bloat the BoM. Intel mandated a form factor that necessitated extraordinarily expensive materials and manufacturing techniques. The result is a product that is quantifiably less rigid than a lighter, cheaper, and less expensive laptop like the author’s Lenovo X201s.
One reason for this is Intel’s $225 or so asking price for the Ultrabook CPUs. Sure, Intel makes cheaper models, but for a category that already suffers because of poor performance and low battery life (Note: Intel bins high end CPUs on leakage as well as clock so high bins do get better battery life), that just makes those models less palatable. With Haswell, prices goes up, and the top bin gets a new tier of pricing. The top ULV Haswell has to pay for marketing of a the new CPU brand of that Intel is going to announce soon. Prices are going to end up dangerously close to $300 for Haswell. For a $699 Ultrabook, what could go wrong with that brilliant pricing plan?
In the mean time, the real problems still remain. The form factor is abjectly broken, mainly too thin for the purpose, prices are still too high, and buyers are still staying away in droves. Intel keeps claiming that this will be fixed with time, but until they find a way to update the laws of physics, don’t hold your breath. This mandatory stupidity dictates much of the expense that is not the CPU, that won’t budge either. The user gets absurd battery life, thermally limited performance that is only borderline acceptable if you run very unrealistic benchmarks no credible site will, and the necessary features that make up a laptop are precluded.
Want a realistic number of ports? Nope, VGA for a projector or monitor? Nope, too thin. Full height Ethernet? Not possible. Removable battery? Not a chance. Keyboard with actual travel? Guess why that isn’t on the cards? Any chance for expansion? Yeah right. Luckily, if you have a dongle fetish, Ultrabooks are for you, some even have a mini-VGA port that no one else does, how convenient. The entire form factor is simply dumb. None of the 20+ designs shown at IDF last month change this at all.
Once again, Intel rushes in to fix things. No, they didn’t raise the Z-height mandate. No, they didn’t lower their monopoly CPU prices. Instead, they are mandating touch screens. $75 BoM cost increases are being kind here, so a $1200 Ultrabook just became a $1350 Ultrabook. Hint: $699 is in the other direction. Luckily, Intel is also mandating NFC hardware, higher rez screens that suck more power, more expensive batteries to cope with it, gyroscopes, sensors, and lots of other, well, crap. None of this is cheap. $1350? Pipe dream.
In the end, Ultrabooks are badly broken by design and unchangeable by fiat. They are not selling, even the halved forecasts by the pessimists were 100% optimistic. The light at the end of the tunnel professed by the tame sites meekly countering iSuppli’s broadside in an attempt to salvage their advertising dollars is simply not realistic. Intel is forcing the category the wrong way in terms of price, performance, and consumer desires. Rather than fix a single one of the problems that are crippling Ultrabooks, they are trying to make 33% more on each one sold. Ultrabooks have failed, all Intel is doing now is making their death more comical. I wonder how many OEMs this will take down in the end?S|A

Edit: This is not intended to cause bashing against any one company, just as a side conversation.

 

'semiaccurate', again - right?

sigh.

 

I take it you do not like the site, their way of writing or what they write about?



I like it because they have AMD-related articles I think are interesting or worth sharing here. Some about Intel and other companies too. They have a decent forum that also goes into AMD-related product discussions. Overclocker.net has an AMD forum too.

I don't know too many other sites that do this but if anyone knows of any, post here and (I'm sure there's tons, I haven't bothered to look myself but probably will now).

Otherwise, if something I post is blatantly incorrect, I will correct it or remove it altogether.

 

Haha, awesome. I like those guys.

 

OK guys I need a head's up on the best deals out there right now for Trinity.
have a friend that needs a notebook like now.
the Staples deal on Sleekbook is ok, not great .... but with a student rebate its ok.
still like to find something a tad stronger - A8 or A10
or a smaller-footprint A6
she will be 'docking' it a lot - with big monitor and kbd so the display [the sickening never-ending 1366 disease] will not matter as much

anybody seen Trinity + Dedicated GPU goodies in the last week or two?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong; but to me... 'semiaccurate' is more than 'half lying'?


You are 'reporting' accurately - no need to remove anything (for me...) - but to me, sa can't see the forest for the trees.

(or; the manufacturers from the suppliers...).

 

Asus N56DP if you can find it. It's expensive though it brings a 1080p display. Otherwise go to the Samsung models. The 355V offers the best bang for the buck since it comes with a A10 and a 7670M GPU for 500$ or something.

 

AMD has products to compete against ultrabooks. Those ULV and LV versions of Trinity are directed at that and OEMs should use them.
And I don't believe the OEMs are letting themselves be strong-armed. They can always fight back and go AMD. The issue is that AMD has been an unreliable partner in the past and because of that Intel can act like this.

It's the same in the dedicated mobile GPU market. Nvidia clinched it because of the half-assed switchable graphics software of AMD. Optimus is out for 2 years and a half and AMD still can't provide an equally reliable solution???

If AMD executed perfectly then Nvidia and Intel would be screwed in the mobile market because AMD products are better suited for it.

 

:/ ..have you owned either an Optimus or an apu system in the last two years..?

 

much truth in this: How soon we forget the purgatorial yield issues AMD just put everyone through. having worked in a product dev shop - that kind of fail is MURDER on a company's product line planning and leaves a bitter taste on the tongue that lasts awhile.

also, I can't imagine that AMD 'listens' nearly as well as Intel. Intel fields a bunch of professional account managers for the OEM's and those guys are typically NOT engineers [though some have the degree] - they are MBA's trained to sell and manage.

 

Thanks G. unfortunately I am not finding either of these in the States

 

Samsung 355V4.

Not sure if it is available for you.
Otherwise I would recommend you to customize an HP Pavilion dv6z-7000 to your liking.
You can make a really decent notebook out of it (comparable with the Asus N56dp) or you can get it cheap depending on your preferences.

If discrete GPU is not necessary then go for the Samsung ultrathins. The 14'' version is quite interesting.

 

Semiaccurate is wrong as many times as they are right. You should take them as seriously as OBR (i.e. not at all).

 

semiaccurate are the new CNET or Fox news.

 

Good to see we've all engaged "irrational mode" in time for the election, at least..

I mean, they're writing about what they said, how they think, and why. How they've interacted with Intel.

And then if you're basically saying: "I think they're wrong because I don't like it if they have a point. So I'm going to ignore everything they said, just in case they might convince me of something unpleasant" - that's not an argument. Even less pointing out whether or how they're wrong or right.

 

Do you want me to post all the times that they were wrong? They're just throwing darts at the board. Sometimes they get a hit and sometimes the miss... Which means that there's no point in taking any of their scoops seriously because it could be wrong just as much as it could be right.

 

Great news folks, the newest OverDrive 4.2.3 allows you to overclock the 7660G.

I've been testing it out and it does make some improvements.

AMD OverDrive

 

How high are you able to get your 7660g?

 

It's stable at 1000Mhz, can at least play borderlands 2 with high settings.

 

Real GM how about a mini-review with benchmarks of your Samsung NP355V4C?

 

I guess. I just said it's pretty strange to dismiss an article where they explain their experience with Intel's public relations managers, and down to the reasoning behind why the ultrabook concept isn't actually fulfilling the public relations checklist Intel promised - as fud because they were "wrong" some time earlier.

Specially when they have been spammed for a very long time by people insisting that anything disagreeing with Intel - however well argued - is categorically false.

I mean, their point is that - like people who own an ultrabook will know - that this isn't a massively less power-hungry platform. While the reduced size means it doesn't perform as consistently at high loads because of heat issues. In other words, you get reduced size, which is great. And if set up well, you can have good systems with dual-cores and integrated graphics here.

But ultimately, Intel hasn't been able to show us anything truly useful here. That has a scaled down heat envelope, integrated graphics with reasonably good performance, along with the features of a full intel chipset, etc.

Meanwhile, anyone who can put two and two together knows how well the low watt trinity processors (specially with properly set up frequency scaling) fit in that category.

So I know I do roll my eyes pretty far back when I go into a shop, or write some retailer, asking for a light-weight system with high battery life, that still can be used for some graphics stuff. And they want to send me away with an ultrabook, because they've read Intel's folders. While saying: "Yes, the i5/hd4000 combo is plenty sufficient for playing hd video in 1080p, and editing movies, or running photoshop".

And then if I ask them if they have actually tried running photoshop on it, or decoding 1080p video... they run and show me an uncompressed film in low bitrate. While hurrying to say that if I want /real/ photoshop acceleration, then I need a /desktop/.

You know, this sort of thing happens. What is unusual, is that someone with a platform actually says it out loud. That this is because Intel does an amazing circus act when it comes to public relations.

While in practice, we will have to wait for Intel's next chipset - or perhaps the next one after that - before we see anything in the near vicinity of what they promised for either ultrabooks or hybrid devices with touch-panels.

 

Hey,

Good idea. I was actually planning to do it but didn't have enough benchmark tools and games. but now I got borderlands 2 and BF3, I could at least do some modern gaming benches.

 

These APUs always can surprise me positively, an another very big point to AMD Trinity . Wonder who was who told us cannot possible to overclock IGP when I asked him to try and than he was hanging around with "Trinity disappoint" avatar...?

 

Yeah. I'm really happy with my purchase now. However, I really want them to let us tweak crossfireX/Dual Graphics performance. After I clock my 7660G from 686Mhz to 1050Mhz, and 7670M from 600 to 780Mhz (Both perfectly stable and cool), I only get a 5% improvement in 3dmark scores.

AMD needs to capitalize this IGP in HTPC/setup tops and low budget comp that can play games decently.

Too bad its processing power is no where close to i7 ivy bridge...

 

Is it possible to overclock IGP in Llano using OverDrive? Maybe some guide ho to overclock?

 

I'll probably post this in the dedicated sub-forum, but since this thread is here, I might as well ask. I usually don't even consider AMD notebooks because my work requires substantial processing power and AMD's CPU performance has not been competitive since Conroe. However, I've been asked to recommend a laptop as a birthday present to somebody who doesn't care about the CPU (or the GPU -- the most intense game that will be played on this machine is Solitaire). The use case is web browsing, email, Skype, watching videos and maybe some very light office work (i.e. Word, not Excel or PowerPoint).

I thought that Trinity would be the perfect fit for this because it's cheap and fairly competitive in terms of power consumption. However, I can't find a Trinity laptop with the non-processor requirements that I have. These are: 13" (or 14", but 13" is better) in screen size, with a high quality display (doesn't have to be IPS, but should have decent contrast and color gamut) and a moderate sized SSD (128GB or so). Also, because of the birthday constraint, it has to arrive within about a week of being ordered (a day or two more is fine, but 2 weeks is too much) and I won't be able to tinker with it because I don't live in the same area (otherwise I would just buy an SSD separately and install it myself).

Any one have any ideas?

 

You can overclock with MSI Afterburner by 13MHz. Unfortunately there is no other way...

It is still very difficult to find good quality 13-14" AMD laptops. Samsung Series 5 Ultrathins are the only good options... Pricey but shipping is quick from Amazon.

 

Wow that's a massive OC. What do you score in 3dmark11 with only the 7660g stock/overclocked?

 

Thanks. Do you know of one with an SSD? There are a few 128GB ones of the Intel variety, but they're rather expensive. The only AMD ones I see are this 13" one and this 14" one, but they both come with 5400 RPM hard drives.

 

Nope, none of the AMD laptops are shipped with SSD, maybe HP Pavilion DV6z. However in these Samsung laptops very easy to swap, the 13" require 7mm SSD like Samsung 830, the 14" takes 9mm drives too.

 

Some of us forget how important this is. There are notebooks out there that, unless one has great skill doing "surgery", one risks the entire notebook just trying to extract the hard drive! ask me how I know....
Thinkpad is spectacular in this regard [the ones I've messed with, anyway] and many of the hp's a breeze... A good fresh hard drive, even 5400rpm, sells fairly quickly on ebay here in the usa

btw... newegg has great sale on 128gb crucial ssd right now!

 

I would definitely swap it since SSDs are really cheap right now, but I'm in Europe for a while and the laptop needs to be in the US. Thank you in any case.

 

From the use cases you are describing even a netbook is sufficient. Get a HP dm1 stick an SSD in it and you're done.
Otherwise get the Samsung Series 5 of 13'' with the A6 APU stick an SSD in it and you're done as well. Or go with an Intel ultrabook.

 

is it possible to upgrade a amd A8 3500m Llano CPU to A10 4600m Trinity?

 

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...bile-trinity-apu-compatible-mobile-liano.html



Short answer: no.