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    The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by davidricardo86, Jul 10, 2012.

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    samsung is, has been, hit or miss with their notebooks. of the many models they have put out, a few come out well over the course of time. I personally would not buy one of their models that does not yet have a lot of real user reviews.
    I'd pay up for the thinkpad. for students - I'd probably go with the older E-series thinkpad x130 or even x120/121 . x120e is a tough animal. and... man, to be fair, I was reading reviews yesterday on the thinkpad x230 that replaces the well-regarded x220 - they got issues. theyve taken a step backward in quality control apparently. 'tis a jungle out there -
     
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    Hey, OP of the NBR thread on the NP355V4 here. Just want to chime in a little.

    The screen's not too bad. The only complaints I have so far about this laptop:
    1) The keyboard is kinda weird, having two '\' keys that shorten the right-shift and enter keys.
    2) Battery life is much shorter than expected. I expected 7 hours, but am getting 4 hours (maybe I have to force 7670m to turn off or something, haven't tried yet).

    I can run Guild Wars 2 to on lowest and play lag-free. I can play it on Medium and have a decent experience with minor stutters.

    I'm running a Mushkin Chronos Deluxe SSD on it now, and swapped out the optical drive for a 12.5mm Optical HDD Caddy to house the 750GB hdd.
    (So yes, my lappy is running 240GB SSD + 750GB HDD at once)

    Also I'm still running 4+2 ram. I expect a ~5% bump in performance if I go 4+4.
    (Because I reviewed the HP Pav m6-1084ca also, and that had the same specs as the Samsung NP355v4-S01ca, but it had 4+4 ram. That thing got 2.1k 3dmark11 whereas my Samsung is getting 2k 3dmark11 right now.

    Coming from an M11x, I'm surprised that this 14 inch laptop is not that much bigger. I can still fit this laptop into my man-purse that I used for my M11x.
     
  3. davidricardo86

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    There does seem to be a recurring theme with this notebook. One of the reviewers from USA's Amazon Samsung NP535U3C-A01US has said his model was running hot but fixed this by reapplying thermal paste. Read the comments too. This seems a little extreme and you would expect a brand new product to work as expected. I guess if it was me I would probably do the same but not everyone is going to or know how to take apart their brand new notebook. Maybe returning or exchanging with Amazon would be a lot easier and faster than say dealing with Samsung's warranty service (I don't know how good it is).
     
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    Well I ordered two laptops NP535U3C (Samsung 13 inch with AMD A6-4455M). The price was the factor, also for students the performance should be fine, and portability is a big plus. Will look into the heat issues and the touch pad issues, however I will not be putting thermal paste to reduce any extreme heat.

     
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    Hello everybody!

    I noticed the hp probook 6475b has the a104600, in a 14 inch form factor, 1600x900 screen option and 8 gbs of ram. Does anyone have this notebook? My experience with hp business notebooks is that they tend to be of higher quality. I'm holding out for a better deal so far, but it's looking solid.
     
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    Guys, is there something new with A10-4600M since july?

    I have these laptops in my own list:
    Samsung 355V5С
    Samsung 355V4C
    HP Pavilion dv6z-7000
    HP ProBook 6475b
    HP ENVY Sleekbook 6z-1000
    Lenovo IdeaPad Z585
    Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E435
    Asus K45DR
    Asus N56DP


    It's great (i havn't the one, but i noticed it too). And, if you don't know, it has matte screen! But $860 (google.com/products) is very expensive for it, i think.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Nice work, Antly one.
    I have a question for you: can you characterize what is the "best" memory setup for a fusion-based rig? is it merely a matter of picking the right parts? most of these have two slots, and I can't imagine why anyone would not have matched modules. you imply in your review that there may be more to it so what's the right thing to do?
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    The problem is most of the Trinity reviews are done with Single Channel memory which is the worst case, than 4+2GB with CL11 latency or just 1333MHz Rams, etc.... I think my Trinity review is the first with 8GB Dual-Channel 1600MHz CL9 DDR3. The price of Memory modules are so low, so it is not worth to save few pennies and loose performance. The best kit what you could buy for Trinity is 2x4GB 1600MHz CL9 1.35V. Probably this one here.
     
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    Actually if your system allows you to overclock your RAM, I have found the Samsung 1.35V DDR3 1600 CAS11 RAM can clock like crazy. Several of us can run at 2133MHz with stock timings, or only CAS 12, on our Clevo notebooks. Something to consider. Or if you are able to flash the RAM it may be a possibility too. However I'm not sure if the Trinity notebooks would run at that speed.
     
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    I found some new details about the new ULV APUs that I discovered in the IdeaPad S405's hardware maintenance manual. These new ULV BGA APUs are the dual core A4-4355M and quad core A8-4555M. According to cpu-world's findings, it is believed that the quad core A8 is a 17W or 19W TDP APU which shares almost the exact same specs with the embedded R-series APUs. If this turns out to be true, that is going to be one super nice ULV quad core Trinity APU!

    AMD A4-4355M and A8-4555M APUs surface in Lenovo notebook

    Here another article regarding these two new ULV APUs. Same difference.

    Lenovo Laptop Reveals AMD A4-4355M and A8-4555M APUs - Softpedia

    However, I still believe this "ULV" quad core A8 is actually the same as the LV/25W A10 with a more limited igpu (same concept as the SV/35W A8 & A10). But, I cannot confirm just yet (as it does share specs with the 19W R-452L) & will have to wait until these new APUs are released & reviewed.


    Sent from my SPH-M580 using Tapatalk
     
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    I was under the impression that overclocking Trin is currently not possible, and even when it is possible, the margin is much smaller than Llano's.
     
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    Overclocking the RAM not the CPU. But likely this isn't enabled in the BIOS.
     
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    These reviews missed our ever watchful eyes. :)

    For notebooks with A10-4600M APU:

    Acer Aspire V3-551g
    Review Acer Aspire V3 551g
    Weak 15.6-inch mainstreamers with AMD Trinity Heart

    The Acer Aspire 551g V3 is one of the first multimedia notebooks in our editorial which are equipped with AMD's new Trinity platform. Whether the combination of the mobile flagship A10-4600m can state with improved integrated graphics and the Radeon HD 7670M will answer our test.
    Description

    With the piano black Silbermix the plastic housing of the Acer Aspire V3 551g is certainly not for everyone. After a few days in our editorial, the reflective surfaces on the display cover and frame as well as the palm rest is covered in fingerprints. This, of course, something scratching at the classic and elegant look of the slim 15.6-incher. Except for the sizable chiclet keyboard and discreet speaker bar in the silver part of the base unit, Acer has in our opinion a little designet to the needs of customers over. The reflections in the mirror-smooth surfaces around the display and on the palm rest are quickly tiring for the eyes. The workmanship is fine, even if the chassis above the optical drive gives way a little. The gaps are small and uniform. The display lid is very flexible, but does not break as fast. The hinges are sturdy, but leave a whipping. This has given the highly reflective finish really disturbing. Even a slightly stronger playing while typing punishes the eyes with hard light reflections.

    The input devices basically a load to longer texts or office work. The chiclet keyboard has a nice short stroke, crisp resistance and a clear pressure point. There is a separate numeric keypad and the ENTER key, Shift, Backspace, and the spacebar are very large. The slightly depressed left offset Multitouchpad has a rough surface and a tactile recognizable scrolling bar. Even multi-finger gestures are clearly recognized, however, we had not yet available for consumers Trinity driver update to fix occasional stuttering or freezing the mouse replacement. The mouse buttons rocker clicking noise and feature positive.

    Regarding the connectivity one has the Acer Aspire V3 551g satisfied with the bare necessities. Only one of the three USB ports using the fast USB 3.0 standard. At the right edge of the case to find a VGA and an HDMI port and the Gigabit LAN port, and audio jacks for microphone and headphones. Wireless communication can be done via Wi-Fi 802.11 a / g / n and Bluetooth 4.0. The operating system is Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit is used. Acer provides a lot of pre-installed applications for data backup, recovery, media playback and management, as well as installations for Skype and a trial version of McAfee's security software.
    Put to the test

    The new mobile Accelerated Processing Unit (APU) flagship, AMD A10-4600m expects four "Piledriver" CPU cores and a clock speed of 2.3 GHz. By Turbo Core 3.0 technology can increase the clock frequency up to 3.2 GHz. APU is part of the integrated AMD Radeon HD 7660G graphics core with 384 Radeon cores and a maximum clock speed of 686 MHz. The integrated graphics unit is thanks AMD Dual Graphics technology over directly into the discrete AMD Radeon HD 7670M, the combined power roughly equivalent to a pairing of a Intel Core i3-2310M dual-core processor and an NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M graphics card. On board 8 GB DDR3 memory - the clock is 1333 MHz with integrated under the theoretical 1,600 MHz.

    The Trinity platform can enhance the performance and efficiency over its predecessor Llano suffers considerably, compared to Intel but still under low CPU performance. The marketing department of AMD encourages editors to trust in the evaluation of their products not only to synthetic benchmarks. In everyday life, should price the APU, the battery life and the powerful integrated graphics move the consumer to buy. For most users, the last performance of the AMD A10-4600m APU - surfing, email, office and multimedia without specific measurements no difference to Intel processors is clear. AMD tries to bring with software partners such as Adobe and Winzip the benefits of stronger integrated graphics to even better advantage. Photoshop CS6 Winzip 16.5 and OpenCL support the interface by which tasks that were previously calculated only by processors are now handled with the assistance of GPU. In practice this means, for example, accelerated calculation of blur in Photoshop, faster file compression using Winzip or real-time video enhancements with the VLC player. Who uses appropriate software gets so real value. The gaming performance of the Acer Aspire V3 551g can convince, we play Batman: Arkham City at a very high level of detail (though DX9) fluent in the native resolution of 1,366 x 768 pixels. The peculiarities of the processors from Intel and AMD make it dependent on user behavior, which is a good solution. Are you one of the users who use more graphics-heavy software, the Trinity platform, with its multimedia performance is a good choice because it is low especially.

    In the Acer Aspire V3 551g hard drive is built with 64.3 MB / s random read rate to the slower its kind on the 500 GB drive, but also larger music collections space. Listening to music from the grind and weak and speakers tend to be less fun. Also, the 15.6-inch glare-type display shows deficiencies in the multimedia capability. With an average brightness of 184 candelas per square meter you have been struggling to lighter in offices around the visibility of the screen content. A glossy finish simulates brighter colors and black levels, the maximum contrast ratio of 229:1 and a grayish black and help the display to no good rating.

    Praiseworthy is the low power consumption and long battery life. At idle, needs the Acer Aspire V3 551g only 15 watts and runs a whole 7 hours and 40 minutes. In practice, with a consumption of 38 watts is still expected with 4 hours and 19 minutes running time. The cooling system is at 38 decibels (A) volume in this scenario in the acceptable range, the temperatures at the top and bottom of the chassis, however, are highly questionable. On average, we calculate 35 degrees Celsius at idle critical points remain as the touchpad above 30 degrees Celsius.
    Summary

    The mainstream and multimedia notebook Acer Aspire 551g V3 is with AMD's Trinity hardware especially worth a look for budget-conscious buyers. The performance has increased significantly compared to the AMD Llano platform is Intel competitor in terms of CPU performance, but still well ahead. Multimedia enthusiasts, who were more than just back and look back a YouTube video, but rather look around for alternatives with better display and sound system. The decor is ok but not great, so that the Acer is noticeably difficult to raise selling points.

    Acer Aspire V3-551g in notebookjournal.de.

    A korean review of the HP Pavillion g6.

    A nice review of the HP m6 which makes it look like an amazing product.

    Notebooks with A8-4500M APU:
    Asus A55N-SX008 review - the notebook seems to be the K55DR of the rest of the world and it only costs 460€.

    HP Pavillion m6 with A8 APU

    Toshiba Satellite L855D-100 review
     
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    If that price includes the 7450M then that is a very good price indeed. I can't wait to see the s405 reviewed. I am really interested in it simply because of the mSATA possiblity, the quad core A8, and the Lenovo keyboard in a Trinity notebook that weighs under 4lbs. This is going to compete directly with the 14" Samsung NP535. From the preliminary Chinese specifications for the s405, I don't like that it only comes with 2GB of DDR3 RAM. I was hoping for at least 4GB RAM like the Samsung. Also, it comes with a glossy finish display, which I don't like (but can probably be swapped for a matte display).

    4499 Chinese yuan = 711.1929 US dollars (A8-4555M+7450M)

    IdeaPad S405-AEI (brilliant red)

    Processor AMD next-generation quad-core accelerated processor A8-4555M (clocked at 1.6Ghz, intelligent overclocking 2.4Ghz)
    Operating system Genuine Linpus Lite Simplified Chinese Edition
    Memory 2GB DDR3
    Hard disk 500GB SATA hard drive
    Wireless LAN card 802.11bgn wireless LAN card
    Display 14.0-inch, high-definition thin-hyun color, 16:9 golden ratio
    Resolution 1366 * 768
    Graphics AMD Radeon ™ HD 7450M discrete graphics
    Display memory 1GB dedicated graphics memory
    Keyboard Lenovo's high touch chocolate keyboard
    Video output HDMI high-definition audio and video port
    Camera 300,000-pixel high-sensitivity camera
    Sound System Dolby certified sound
    NIC 10M/100M adaptive Ethernet card
    Standard Interface A USB3.0 interface, two USB 2.0 ports, RJ45, the whole array of anti-noise microphone, support for stereo headphone jack / audio output, two-in-one card reader (SD / MMC), HDMI HD output interface
    Power supply 100 ~ 240V wide voltage power adapter
    Battery Type High performance 4-cell lithium ion battery
    Size 336.6x241.2x8.5 ~ 21mm
    Weight 1.8Kg (with 4-cell battery, the specific weight configuration based on product shipments subject)
    Optional The notebook packs to (sold separately)
    Features Super quiet and efficient cooling design
    battery life extension technology
    Smart Audio Sound System
    * OneKey Rescue system
    * Quick Start

    Special Note:
    Lenovo will do our best to provide you with the standard, comprehensive information, but responsible for errors or omissions in that information may not appear.
    Product Image for reference only Please objetcts.
    The above content is subject to change without notice.

    Also, I went digging through the Lenovo Support (Drivers & Software) for the s405 and found some drivers for Mini_IDE and SATA RAID within the Video/Chipset/AHCI/USB3.0 driver package. I'm guessing these are going to be used with the mSATA SSDs.

    AMD miniIDE Driver
    for Windows
    Version 5.2.2.0134



    DESCRIPTION:
    The miniIDE driver provides support for the PATA and SATA controllers on the AMD SB700, as well as the SATA controller on the AMD SB800/Hudson-1. With this driver, the Windows OS Device Manager can show the correct number of available IDE channels, and the proper name for each controller.
    The SB700 SATA controller can operate in three modes:
    • All six ports can be configured in IDE mode. In this configuration, the programming interface of two of the ports (4 and 5) is under the PATA controller.
    • Four ports (0 to 3) configured as SATA AHCI, and two ports (4 and 5) configured in IDE mode. In this configuration, the programming interface of ports 4 and 5 is under the PATA controller.
    • All six ports are configured in SATA AHCI mode.
    SB700 PATA Controller:
    The integrated Parallel ATA controller contains a single PATA channel, which can be configured as a primary or secondary IDE channel. The controller can be configured to operate in legacy or native IDE mode, and may support a second IDE channel if ports 4 and 5 are assigned from the SATA controller.
    The SB800/Hudson-1 SATA controller can operate in three modes:
    • All six ports are configured in IDE mode. In this configuration, the SATA controller is configured as two IDE controllers, with the programming interface of ports 0 to 3 under the first IDE controller, and ports 4 and 5 under the second IDE controller.
    • Four ports (0 to 3) configured as SATA AHCI, and two ports (4 and 5) configured in IDE mode. In this configuration, the programming interface of ports 4 and 5 is under the second IDE controller.
    • All six ports are configured in SATA AHCI mode.
    REQUIREMENTS:

    This driver supports Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 and Windows 8. It supports both 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems.

    INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS:

    NOTE: As with all driver installations, you need to login as Administrator or have administrator rights for your domain login.

    To install the driver, copy the installation files to a temporary directory, then use the "Device Manager" to perform an "Update Driver" operation as follows.

    1) Select "Control Panel" from Start Menu.
    2) Select "Classic View" from the left pane.
    3) Invoke Device Manager.
    4) Expand IDE/ATAPI controllers
    5) Right click on Select Standard PCI IDE Controller and select “Update Driver”
    6) Select “No, not this time” and click “Next”
    7) Select “Install from a list of specific locations(Advanced)” and click “Next”
    8) Select “Don’t Search, I will choose the drivers to install” and click “Next”
    9) Click on “Have Disk”
    10) Click on “Browse”
    11) Browse to the folder containing the driver and click “Open”
    12) Click “OK”
    13) Click “Next”
    14) A box will appear: "The wizard has finished installing the software", click "Finish" to complete the installation.
    15) Repeat the steps 5 to 14 for any additional PCI IDE Controller


    UNINSTALL INSTRUCTIONS:
    1) Select "Control Panel" from Start Menu.
    2) Select "Classic View" from the left pane.
    3) Invoke Device Manager.
    4) Expand IDE/ATAPI controllers
    5) Right click on Select Standard PCI IDE Controller and select “Uninstall”.
    7) Click "OK".

    REFERENCE:
    IDE Controller Minidriver Routines:
    Content Moved (Windows)

    IDE Port Driver:
    Content Moved (Windows)



    As shown here, the miniIDE driver (amdide.sys, in “green”) replaces the in-box pciide.sys driver.





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    Thanks, added these to the list! :thumbsup:

    That might just be the MSRP. I'm almost positive (if and) once it hits the USA and the Lenovo Outlet/Lenovo Barnes & Noble Stores the price will come down a bit. Thanks for finding this, it looks like a good combo.
     
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    I'm considering an A10 laptop and found this thread very helpful.
    Best price I've found so far is at ToshibaDirect. You can customize an L850D-BT2N22 and get an A10 in it for $484.99.
    Considering buying, adding one 4 GB stick of RAM myself, and replacing HDD with an SSD I already have.
    Only reservation is I was wanting a 14 inch machine this time (partly my wife's request also). Haven't found any good budget options out yet. Except that Samsung with the discrete card. Would love that but was hoping to stay closer to $500.
     
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    With an A10 APU for that price I don't think you'll find a 14'' notebook excluding the Samsung 355VC. The cheapest notebook with an A8 APU is the Toshiba Satellite L840D for 430$ in the Toshiba website.
     
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    I'm going to get a bit off topic right now but I think some of you might like these links nonetheless. Also, I didn't want to start a brand new thread just for this.


    AMD at IFA 2012
    In case you missed some of this stuff, here it is.





    From AMD's Facebook: We had a fantastic week in San Francisco meeting with press and enjoying the beautiful weather. AMD loves thin tablets. Check out this mock-up design which shows how slim AMD-based tablets can be. And with Windows 8. YES, please!
    [​IMG]

    IFA 2012 AMD Private Meeting Highlights: Yes to Tablets, No to Ultrabook Alternative
    Being one of those lucky enough to land a one-on-one briefing with AMD at IFA 2012, I got the inside scoop on quite a few things, from laptops to tablets and the processors used in them.

    It was actually surprising to learn that AMD was going to focus on tablets during the meeting, rather than ultrathin laptops and notebooks.

    Nevertheless, that is what happened. There are some things we can’t talk about just yet, but we have free reign on just as many subjects, if not more.

    To start off, AMD isn’t going to follow the same pattern that the rest of the IT industry adopted in regards to the tablet market.

    For those who don’t know what we mean, many companies released a sort of test product before entering the segment, some after taking months to “study marketing conditions.”

    AMD took its time not because it didn’t believe in the idea, but because it wanted to be sure it could make an impact, which means that they will push fast and hard. Bulldoze the segment as it were.

    Of course, it remains to be seen if they succeed in entering the “sweet spot” of the tablet market from the start. Our guess is that they will, because Trinity, and the work on the part of the HSA Foundation, is significant in its thoroughness. Besides, APUs have always been about performance at a low price and reduced power draw, and reports have been roaming the web about a certain Hondo low-power 40nm chip with 4.5W power draw.

    Setting aside what we know right now, some, like Fudzilla, think this is the next-generation mobile chip, while others still believe Hondo to have been cancelled a while ago.

    That said, AMD talked about the ultrathin notebook segment and what plans it has for it. It turns out that there won’t be an ultrabook alternative in the strictest sense. I asked them if they thought about a counter-brand, and they said that they don’t see a need for it, especially since the normal term “ultrathin” defines the same sort of product but is not as restrictive (the screen size can go above that of ultrabooks, the feature set can vary more, etc.).

    Verily, it may even be a good idea to go this route for a very uncanny reason: promoting something as an “alternative” to ultrabooks would immediately cause prospective buyers to think the AMD-based devices are just as unimpressive and/or not worth buying as them.

    We aren’t saying that ultrabooks are bad. The Acer Aspire S7 would have our hide if we did. Nevertheless, all market analyst firms are in agreement that sales have consistently failed to impress. Thus, it might be good for AMD to have nothing to do with a product type that is dragging its feet one year after it was supposed to win back the consumer base stolen by tablets.

    On that note, HP is, at this point, the only PC maker with a special “brand” for AMD ultrathins (Sleekbook).

    IFA 2012: Fun Times With Notebooks and Trinity at AMD's Booth
    Even for people like us, who strive to be as practical as possible, AMD's booth at the IFA 2012 trade show, taking place in Berlin, Germany, was and is a fun place to be.

    Laptops decorated the wall (literally) and there was a whole bunch of them on display too, from a variety of manufacturers.

    We saw Lenovo, Acer, ASUS and HP, just to name a few of the brands that are and will sell Trinity-based noteboks.

    Even the HP Sleekbooks were represented. For those who don't know, Sleekbook is a name that the top PC maker chose for the super-thin AMD-based notebooks that would have been called Ultrabooks if Intel hadn't trademarked the word.

    But the A-Series wasn't the only product lineup that we found there. In fact, there was a three-display, EyeFinity-using gaming system there as well, powered by the FX 8150 8-core Buldozer central processor.

    We know, we know, the idea of 8-core AMD FX processors crashed and burned because of too low performance and an unfortunate mishap (or two) related to the way transistors were counted, which led to inconsistent official numbers.

    Still, the system ran games just fine and we would have stayed behind for a race or two if we weren't on a tight schedule.

    But here is the beauty of our time here: though we only spent a short time at the booth, mostly taken up by photo shots of the various PCs, we can and will do something better.

    We have a one-on-one meeting scheduled for later today, where we'll learn all there is to know about Trinity, and probably something more besides. There will probably be an NDA involved, so we might not be allowed to disclose everything we learn there for a while, but we suspect that some disclosures will still be permissible.

    Until we have an update on that front, check out the images below and don't feel too reserved about the idea of buying one of the notebooks. You may also want to consider keeping your eyes and ears peeled for AMD ultrathin designs if you're in the market for an ultrabook instead of a normal laptop. After all, HP isn't likely to remain the only supplier of "sleekbooks" forever.



    In other news...
    Here's some interesting reading material that may be of interest.


    13-inch Trinity ultraportable slips under $700
    AMD's 17W Trinity APUs are slowly making their way into more ultra-slim systems. In June, HP introduced the Envy Sleekbook 6 with an A6-4455M APU. The system is just 0.78" thick, but its 15.6" screen is a little on the large size for an ultraportable. Now, you can buy a 13-incher with the same APU. The Samsung Series 5 535 wraps up the A6-4455M in a 13.3" chassis no thicker than 0.69". Total weight: just 3.35 lbs.



    Of course, AMD has to make some concessions to squeeze Trinity into a 17W thermal envelope. The A6-4455M has just a single Piledriver CPU module, whose dual cores are clocked at 2.1GHz with a 2.6GHz Turbo peak. That CPU module shares its die with Radeon HD 7500G integrated graphics that feature 256 ALUs, 128 ALUs short of the fastest Trinity graphics implementations. The integrated Radeon only has to drive a display resolution of 1366x768, though.

    Before you sneer at the relatively low pixel density, note that the display has a matte screen coating. Also, keep in mind that the Series 5 535 costs less than $700 right now. The configuration selling at Amazon comes with 4GB of RAM, 500GB of 5,400-RPM mechanical storage, 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0, and USB 3.0. Seven hours of battery life are promised from the four-cell battery, which mostly matches the run times claimed by comparable ultrabooks.

    If you happen to be living north of the border, Future Shop has an even snazzier version on sale for $550. The Canadian config appears to be identical to the US version apart from an additional 2GB of RAM. A couple of local Future Shop locations have the Series 5 in stock right now. I may have to head out on a scouting mission to see what it's like.

    Intel’s Haswell is an unprecedented threat to Nvidia, AMD
    Intel’s next-generation architecture, codenamed Haswell, isn’t just another “tock” in Intel’s tick/tock cadence; it’s a serious threat to both AMD and Nvidia. For the first time, Intel is poised to challenge both companies in the mainstream graphics market while simultaneously eroding Nvidia’s edge in the GPGPU business. Its low-power, 10W TDP ULV parts will challenge the price/performance ratio of AMD’s second-generation Brazos SoC (codenamed Kabini) as well as any ARM-based Windows 8 notebooks that companies like Qualcomm might bring to market.

    Let’s take a look at the architecture, starting with the CPU.

    Wider, deeper, faster

    Haswell is a logical extension of the microarchtectural improvements Intel first introduced in Sandy Bridge. The new chip adds support for Intel’s second-generation Advanced Vector eXtensions (AVX2), which doubles the core’s peak FPU throughput. L1 and L2 bandwidth have been doubled to ensure the execution units stay fed, and the integer and FPU register files have all been enlarged. Branch prediction efficiency also gets a boost. Haswell’s real-world single-threaded performance in unoptimized code is expected to improve by 10-15%. In optimized, AVX2 code, the leap will be much larger; AVX2 includes support for integer vectorization that AVX lacks.





    The increased FPU capability and additional AVX2 functionality make a huge difference in Haswell’s floating-point performance. The CPU is capable of up to 32 single-precision and 16 double-precision floating point operations per core. That’s twice what Sandy Bridge could achieve; a theoretical eight-core Haswell clocked at 3.8GHz will offer 972.8 gigaflops of SP and 486.4 gigaflops of DP performance. While it’s true that current GPUs exceed these levels, x86 compatibility is one heck of a carrot. Intel’s “good enough” argument sank the big iron RISC vendors of the 1990s and early 2000s, and it’s a real threat to Nvidia’s GPGPU momentum. The chip’s L1/L2 cache bandwidth is vastly increased from current levels; the L1 bus is twice as wide as well. The massive amounts of additional bandwidth are what the chip needs to keep the AVX2 units busy; Haswell should be able to hit a relatively high percentage of its peak theoretical gigaflops rate in real-world scenarios.

    While Team Green will likely retain the overall performance advantage, a quad-core Haswell with a 4GHz Turbo mode will offer 256 gigaflops of double-precision floating point (512 gigaflops single-precision). That level of single-precision performance is right in the neighborhood of Nvidia’s GT 640. Because Nvidia has historically hobbled double-precision performance on consumer cards, quad-core Haswell could well outperform Nvidia’s GTX 680 and possibly pace the GTX 580 in DP operations.

    Nvidia could win the battle at the high end, only to lose the war at other price points if Intel chooses to make an issue of it. Worse, there’s the fact that every single Nvidia-equipped HPC system comes with an Intel solution by default. Make no mistake, Intel is playing up the potential Xeon Phi connection; three of the company’s IDF seminars addressed vectorization for both Haswell and Xeon Phi.

    Haswell’s GPU turns the screws on Nvidia, AMD

    Haswell’s GPU is a tweaked version of the cores currently deployed in Ivy Bridge. What’s really changing is the shader loadout; Intel will offer Haswell in 10, 20, and 40-shader flavors (GT1, GT2, and GT3). The chip will also be offered in variants that include up to 128MB in on-package RAM, a feature that provides the GPU with a small dedicated pool of memory. Intel isn’t talking much about the GPU changes, but the company has stated that the new GT3 configuration offers “up to 2x” the performance of Ivy Bridge’s HD 4000 graphics.



    Even a conservative take on that promise spells trouble for AMD and Nvidia. According to figures from Anandtech, Trinity’s GPU is an average of 18% faster than Llano’s across a range of 15 popular titles. Compared to Sandy Bridge, Trinity was almost 80% faster. Against Ivy Bridge, it’s just 20% faster. Given what we know of Haswell’s GPU shader counts and performance targets, it shouldn’t be hard for Intel to deliver a 30-50% performance boost in real-world games. If it does, Trinity goes from the fastest integrated GPU on the market to an also-ran, and AMD loses the superior graphics hole card it’s been playing since it launched the AMD 780G chipset four years ago.

    Sunnyvale has virtually no room to maneuver. The company’s 28nm Kaveri APU, with its next-generation graphics core based on the HD Radeon 7000 and the new Steamroller CPU reportedly has yet to tape-out. That means it could be the tail end of 2013 before we see the chips, assuming that production goes smoothly. AMD will likely offer a “Trinity 2.0″ update to stem off Haswell’s onslaught, but slightly higher clocks aren’t going to be enough to keep Intel from matching AMD’s performance.

    AMD’s last bastions are the markets Intel doesn’t really want. It’s an unsustainable position for any company that dreams of challenging the market leader; AMD literally can’t afford the R&D it would take to catch up to its erstwhile rival. You won’t find Nvidia gloating — well, not much. Intel’s literature makes it plain that the company absolutely intends to minimize the value of separate GPUs by incorporating performance where it can and driving the adoption of ever-smaller form factors where it can’t.

    Barring a major screw-up, it’ll be Haswell, not Kaveri, that crosses the “good enough for enthusiasts” line first. The chip’s 10W power envelope won’t directly compete with any potential Tegra 4-based tablets — that’s what Bay Trail, Intel’s out-of-order 22nm Atom SoC is for.

    No, Haswell won’t drive AMD out of business or frighten Nvidia into dumping Tesla — but unless Intel completely blows its roadmap, it’ll drive both companies further towards the margins of computing. For AMD, that move is very literal; the company is being forced into the low-end products that Intel doesn’t want to bother with. For Nvidia, it means scrambling to convince OEMs to allocate space for discrete GPUs at a time when Intel’s marketing dollars and consumer preferences are aligned against it. Enthusiast preferences, Intel’s historically weak driver support, and Nvidia’s own brand recognition will help, but the IT industry is littered with the bones of companies that treated their brand as an unassailable bulwark rather than a sand castle. Enthusiasts that care about performance tend to follow it, wherever it goes.

    AMD "Hondo" APUs May Not Be Too Linux Friendly
    Posted by Michael Larabel on September 14, 2012

    Just one day after hearing Intel isn't planning "Clover Trail" Atom support under Linux due to targeting this low-powered processor towards Windows 8 tablets, similar information has now come out of AMD. The next-generation "Hondo" Fusion APUs are initially being targeted towards Windows 8 tablets rather than Linux/Android.

    While the AMD "Trinity" APUs are out there now for notebooks, Hondo is AMD's upcoming Fusion APUs targeting tablets that carry a sub-4.5 Watt envelope while packing one or two processing cores and integrated Radeon graphics. Like Intel's Clover Trail, Hondo should be hitting around the time Windows 8 arrives and various hardware vendors are already working on new Hondo-powered tablets, but only using the new Microsoft OS.

    AMD's Steve Belt confirmed to The Inquirer that initially this ultra low-power APU will be a Windows-only product. Linux/Android support isn't being ruled out entirely, but they are giving Microsoft exclusive rights at launch. Aside from The INQ, I've heard this Hondo-is-for-Windows information elsewhere. If querying the Linux kernel commit history you will see nothing that references Hondo. (Update: For clarification, the INQ source does indicate, "However unlike Intel, AMD said there is nothing stopping people from running Linux on its Hondo processor.")

    AMD's Hondo APUs may end up working fine under Linux since they are x86_64-based after all and using Radeon graphics. With the Catalyst driver consisting of largely shared code between platforms, there will hopefully be support within the Linux driver and for the graphics driver on the open-source side it will hopefully come down to sprinkling in the new PCI IDs. But the Linux support may come up short when it comes to the power management/performance and other optimizations. We'll have to wait and see in the coming months.

    Like Clover Trail, Hondo will hopefully be a one-off stint with Microsoft. In 2013 we will see new 28nm Fusion APUs out of AMD that should be more interesting anyways, but what will be interesting to see is how the battery life and performance-per-Watt compares between Windows 8 and (non-Android) Linux on next-generation tablets.

    The other positive takeaway is that with these announcements of Clover Trail and Hondo support not coming to Linux, it's generating mainstream interest on other sites, compared to it being an announcement in the past when a product is supported on Linux.

    APU AMD Hondo initially bear only Windows 8
    The amd apu Hondo will be launched on dates close to the launch of Microsoft Windows 8 operating system , and will become an alternative to Intel Atom microprocessors Cloverview in the segment of ultra-economic notebooks and tablets.
    During the event IDF2012 Intel gave back to Linux, announcing that Cloverview not develop drivers for that operating system . Done that aroused the curiosity of The Inquirer, who contacted AMD to know regarding the policy would support Linux for Hondo APU.
    AMD’s response was that the Hondo APU will be compatible only with Windows 8 at the time of its launch, but says its software engineers are working on Linux support, so that at a later date to the launch of Windows 8, is expect the first drivers for Linux Hondo APUs.
    AMD hopes that Windows 8-based tablets will soon reach between 15 to 20% of the market, so you see the Windows 8 support a priority on support for other operating systems, although not intended as neglecting any market characteristics their Hondo APU support OpenCL as can be appreciated in other segments such as low-power servers.

    AMD invests in cloud-based gaming firm CiiNOW
    Posted on Tuesday, September 11 2012 @ 19:03:15 CEST by Thomas De Maesschalck


    AMD announced it has invested an undisclosed sum in CiiNOW, a provider of cloud-based gaming. The company's service sounds a lot like OnLive and Gaikai, with the key difference that it's providing its technology to game publishers and service providers, rather than directly to the end-user. In return for the investment, CiiNOW has made AMD's Radeon HD graphics card the basis for its cloud gaming servers.
    AMD (NYSE: AMD) today announced an investment in CiiNOW, a provider of cloud gaming technology that enables game publishers, retailers and carriers to tap into the growing video game market expected to reach $81 billion by 20161. AMD, through AMD Ventures, has invested in an innovative software company serving a large and growing market that can create better end-user experiences by taking advantage of AMD technologies. With the investment and strategic collaboration facilitated by AMD Ventures, AMD and CiiNOW will work jointly to enable the best online gaming experience possible through a vibrant worldwide developer ecosystem and differentiated hardware.

    The cloud gaming industry, which was once thought of as technologically impossible, is now disrupting the gaming market for both consumers and game publishers as more and more casual and hardcore gamers are making the jump to playing games online. CiiNOW addresses this trend with the first cloud gaming solution powered by AMD Radeon™ graphics that offers a cost-effective, end-to-end solution that includes the full suite of required hardware and software components. CiiNOW delivers a high-speed, low latency, streaming solution with up to eight HD streams per server blade, and up to 272 HD streams per server rack for HD quality game streaming instantly from the cloud for ubiquitous game streaming across all subscribers, devices and access technologies.

    “CiiNOW is on the cutting-edge of online game streaming technology, and it’s clear we share the same vision to drive the cloud gaming industry forward and ultimately provide the best gaming experience,” said Manju Hegde, corporate vice president, Heterogeneous Applications and Developer Solutions at AMD. “AMD’s investment signifies our mutual drive to liberate gamers from today’s constraints and move us to the next era of digital content.”

    To further advance cloud gaming, CiiNOW announced today the general availability of its gaming solution which provides a new, high speed platform powered by AMD Radeon™ graphics. The company’s patent-pending hardware and server management technology have been architected for scale, cost and ease of service deployment, making it easier than ever for game publishers and service providers to meet consumer demand for high-quality online multimedia services and entertainment.

    “The combination of CiiNOW’s turnkey cloud platforms powered by AMD’s best-in-class GPU hardware makes AMD an ideal technology partner for CiiNOW,” said Ron Haberman, chief executive officer and co-founder of CiiNOW. “Game publishers, retailers and carriers now have a technology solution they can employ to deliver a best-in-class cloud gaming solution as the industry continues to transition from physical media to digital distribution.”
     
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    Hi,

    I bought the Samsung NP355V5C-A05UK from Amazon for £279 with an A6-4400m in it and dropped an A10-4600m into it as a straight swap. They both use the same u-PGA socket and have the same TDP so I thought 'Why not ?' Turns out it works a treat. Bios recognised it straight away with no problem. I also added 8GB of Cas 9 DDR3-1600 and a 128GB Samsung 830 SSD. Obviously this has killed my warranty, but given how the thing works and how much it cost I think it was worth it :)

    If anybody is interested they can see it in action on youtube. Just search for my channel name, ie- Haawser. Peace.
     
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    davidricardo86,

    Thanks for those videos and snippets.

    The only thing that was interesting to me was what apical was offering/demoing.

    See:
    Apical : Advanced Imaging


    I hope this technology is inside every display device soon. Doesn't need (only) AMD tech: just needs what Intel has done with video conversion in their latest cpu's (Intel Quick Sync Video) - simply to make it a built in part that runs as efficiently as possible).


    Everything else was a little too sci-fi, meh and 'that's just stupid' for me.

    (The 'just stupid' part was where the computer initiated, guessed and directed the computing experience, instead of just letting the user do what they needed to get done with the computer).
     
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    Hello my question changed the a6 by a104600m, if so where did you get the processor separately.

    regards


    Just understand use translator forgive my question
     
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    Honestly that's exactly what I would've done. Its very similar to what I did with my E425. I seen your videos and it seems like you've got a fantastic little notebook there. :thumbsup: Trinity is great for gaming indeed but you're right, in every day use you can't really tell what kind of processor is inside. I'd like to add some of those videos to the OP so others interested in the NP355V5C can see them. I've read reports that the display on this Samsung sucks and isn't very bright. From those videos i just seen I thought it looked great plus I prefer my displays more dimmed than bright as high brightness hurts my eyes after a few hours! I really like the matte finish too. I guess one shouldn't expect so much out of a notebook that costs so little. Anyways, thanks again!

    I wanted to post this for others to know how inexpensive it can be (if you don't mind):
    I bought the A10 and memory from ebay. A10 was £110, mem (8GB 9-9-9-27) was £40. I got the samsung 830 128GB SSD from amazon for £80. The laptop cost me £270 from Amazon as a basic A6 version and I just swapped out the bits. If I can get £75 for the parts I removed it will have cost about £425.
    It's kind of my DIY version of an 'Ultra' :)
    Haawser in reply to Aaronage1 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos


    I agree, the display technology is a welcome feature. But there really wasn't any news or exciting things being shown at IFA 2012 by AMD. While I would've loved to have seen more from AMD and their partners, I guess Intel and Apple were the buzz of the internet this last week with their highly anticipated keynotes.

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    Short review with benchmarks of the A10-4600M+7970M MSI GX60 are in (Chinese)! Backlit keyboard swap is possible thanks to connector being present.
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    *spock brow*

    edit: ...right, it wasn't paired up with a 76xx radeon card, but a 7970m. ..
     
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    Loving the NP355V5C-A05UK A10 transplant. Do you think this could be done with the slimmer NP535 version?
     
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    No, fraid not. The 17w A6-4455m versions use a u-BGA socket, not u-PGA, so the A10 wouldn't fit.
     
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    The NP535 uses soldered APUs, so that's not going to happen unless you were to de-solder and re-solder another APU in its place. I have always wanted to learn how to reball and soldered those type of processors. :D

    Awesome find! Downloading and will be testing this in a little bit. I'll report back with my findings. I hope it increases Dual Graphics performance in my case too (as well as other Llano and Trinity Dual Graphics users).

    This news/update might just be what we've all been waiting for for a loooooonnnnnng time. Come to papa!
     
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    Damn, that's an amazing upgrade!
    AMD should release a press release detailing that to most major hardware sites. It would be really cool to see new benchmarks from those sites after this update.

    By the way: Notebookcheck.net review of the Acer Aspire V3-551G.
    It would be interesting to see a comparison of before and after benchmarks with the 12.9 Catalist update.
     
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    seriously why isn't there a AMD+SAMSUNG partnership or something, this 12.9 with a good review model sent out would do wonders for public perception
     
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    Is there a Trinity laptop that takes real MXMs? If so, probably too much to ask for one that has a video out mux too...
     
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    If you meant a good CrossfireX performance review, that is certainly still missing. Otherwise I was showing in my review how much better Trinity is than what we could read before.

    Finding a perfectly build/equipped AMD laptop is still impossible. MXMs are very rare in Intel laptops too, so do not hope AMD with it.
     
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    There already exists a partnership, with the HSA Foundation at least. Which to be honest, could be a great advantage. There was talk of AMD being bought by Qualcomm or Samsung. The NP535U3/4C & the NP355V5C could both use more options like higher res displays, backlit KBs, the entire APU line up (where applicable), SATA III mSATA SSD

    The only one at the moment is the MSI GX60. What is "a video out mux too...?"

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    In other news (great) news... AMD is developing competitors to Intel's Wireless Display technology (WIDI), and Thunderbolt (called Lighting Bolt). How did I miss this? Better late than never I suppose. Very interesting ideas that I think AMD SHOULD DO and further develop making them practical & useful! I think AMD stands a greater chance with these implemented and if done right & can beat Intel at its own game. What do you guys think? I think this is overdue and AMD can actually pull it off easily (with what the technology they already have).


    AMD is Catching Up in the Wireless Display Game
    AWD, stands for AMD Wireless Display in this case...


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    The Magic of AMD’s Lightning Bolt
    A little bit of thunder and a whole lot of flash....


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    AMD’s CFO Thomas Seifert is out
    Another in a long line of executive exits


    http://semiaccurate.com/2012/09/17/amds-cfo-thomas-seifert-is-out/
    Sep 17, 2012 in analysis, Finance, Microprocessors, Opinion, Rumors
    by Charlie Demerjian

    It looks like another high profile CxO is out at AMD, this time it is Thomas Seifert. With the departure of the CFO, there are not too many of the old school managers left in Austin.
    SemiAccurate has long heard rumors of this transition, so we are leaning toward this being a planned transition, but the full story is not out yet. The most complete information we can find is the usual vague hug-fest that says nothing important. More if and when we get it.S|A
     
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    I'm really interested in the 14" Sleekbook! Did you notice the heat vent is now on the left side of the noteboook instead of at the rear under the lid? This is going to be a good alternative to the Lenovo IdeaPad S405 IMO. I hope the keyboard remains backlit and is made more tactile. Too bad the res remains at 1366x768, and glossy finish :(. Can't wait!

    The HP Pavilion Sleekbook 14 carries an MSRP of $499.99,


    Awesome discussion on Trinity 2.0, just before Kaveri

    AMD to update Trinity to Trinity 2.0
    Updated: Not a delay to Kaveri, but it looks that way
     
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    That sounds exactly like a delay to Kaberi or else they wouldn't have a reason to launch a Trinity 2.0.
    They're screwed. Not like I was expecting Kaveri to be a lot better than Trinity (10-20% in the CPU part of the APU). But Intel will eat through their market if the rumours about Haswell IGP are real.
     
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    $649.99 shipped, lowest yet and right now costs less than the 13.3" model.
    Samsung Series 5 NP535U4C-A01US 14-Inch Laptop (Silver)

    $686.39 shipped, with $200 coupon code: NB1765
    HP ENVY Sleekbook 6z-1000
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    FREE Upgrade to 4GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm)
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    Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
    No additional security software
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    No Internal DVD or CD Drive
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    More options are good, Intel's definitely ahead here though.


    I don't know if they're screwed but it seems very similar to what they did with Llano, a slight refresh before the next big release. Haswell will sure be beastly, but I have a feeling Kaveri graphics are still going to be greater. I hope I'm right but its going to get even tougher for amd.
     
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    The new Envy M4 looks fantastic, I could use as business laptop. Any Chance to seeing that with A10-4600M?
     
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    Don't think it will be available with an AMD APU.
    According to notebookcheck.net, the 14'' option with the AMD APUs will be the Sleekbook 14. HP is probably the company with the most complete APU lineup.
     
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    Some deals on 17W Trinity ultrathins (as of 9/24/12):

    Does anyone know the battery capacity for this ENVY 6 Sleekbook? mAh and or Wh?
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    Item: 932133 Model: B5T12UA#ABA

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    Offer Expires on 09/29/2012

    Product Details

    HP ENVY 6-1010us The everyday entertainment heavyweight!

    The HP Envy 6-1010us is a Staples Windows 7 Select PC representing the best in design, mobility and performance. It's highly fashionable and surprisingly light, considering it's the only 15.6" HD large screen notebook with tons of video memory, Beats Audio™, dual speakers and built-in subwoofer. Your movies, games and multimedia won't just look amazing, they'll sound amazing too. Take portable entertainment to the next level with the HP Envy 6.

    Next Gen AMD A6-4455M Accelerated 2.1GHz 1MB L2 Cache Processor
    4GB DDR3 SDRAM Installed Memory, Expandable to 16GB
    500GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
    15.6" Diagonal HD BrightView LED-backlit Display (1366 x 768)
    Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium simplifies your life and when you Buy Microsoft Office 2010, you can experience new ways to deliver your best work
    1 Year Limited Warranty

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    Windows 7 Select PC Yes
    Laptop Style Sleekbook
    Laptop Battery Type 4-cell Lithium-ion
    Laptop Hard Drive Capacity 500GB
    Bluetooth Compatibility Yes
    Laptop Display Type Diagonal HD Brightview LED-backlit
    Laptop Memory Expandable 16GB
    CPU Cache 1MB L2
    Laptop Processor Speed 2.1GHz
    Laptop Processor Type AMD A6-4455M Accelerated
    Laptop Color Midnight Black
    Laptop Screen Size 15.6"
    Laptop Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Laptop Extra Features Multi-touch Gesture Touchpad
    Laptop Optical Drive N/A
    Laptop Memory Type DDR3
    Laptop Memory RAM 4GB
    Laptop Use Professional
    Laptop Hard Drive Speed 5400RPM
    Laptop Battery Life Up to 9 Hours
    Laptop Webcam Built in HP HD Webcam
    Laptop Audio Beats Audio with Subwoofer
    Laptop Network Card 802.11 b/g/n
    Media Card Reader Multi Format Digital Media Card Reader
    Video Graphics Memory 2036MB
    Laptop Video Graphics AMD Radeon HD 7500G Discrete Class
    Laptop Hard Drive Type SATA
    Laptop Other ports 1 x HDMI, 1 x RJ-45, 1 x Headphone, 1 x Microphone
    Laptop Warranty 1 Year
    Laptop Weight 4.75lbs
    Laptop Dimensions (L x W x H) 14.72" x 9.95" x 0.78"
    Laptop Refurbished No
    Laptop USB Slots 2 x USB 3.0, 1 x USB 2.0

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    $518.99 Lenovo S405 AMD A6-4455M ULV 4GB-DDR3 500GB 14
    PC Mall Part#: 9341323 | Mfr Part#: 59342926 (NOTE: Requires calling for availability.)

    CPU Model: AMD A6-4455M APU with AMD Radeon™ HD 7500G
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    GPU Model: AMD Radeon HD 7500G
    Hard Drive size: 500GB
    Memory Amount: 4GB

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    The ultra-slim, ultra-light Samsung 13.3" Series 5 Laptop PC boasts a powerful AMD Quad-Core A6-4455M processor with a 13.3" HD screen and a large capacity 500GB HDD. All of it will take your breath away. Samsung excels at picture quality. The razor-sharp high-definition LCD screen features SuperBright technology for a brilliant screen that's up to 40 percent brighter than many traditional PCs and stunning range of color. There's beauty in simplicity. The PowerPlus battery technology gives you a battery that lasts all day. Easy settings allow you quick control. Easy migration makes setup a snap and Sleep-and-Charge USB can charge a device even when the computer is off. At 3.35 lbs and 0.69" thin, the ultra-compact design is perfect for maximum portability.

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    500GB hard drive
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    13.3" HD SuperBright LED-backlit display
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    Just watched vid... Enjoyed it, tx for sharing.... I didnt expect the A10 wei in cpu/graphics to be so close to my A8 4500m/7640g... Picked up a 17in Toshiba few weeks back for $479 US....

    Staples Link..... Toshiba Satellite L875D-S7232 17.3" Laptop | Staples®

    Below is WEI out of box...

    CPU 6.7
    RAM 7.1
    Aero 6.7
    Grapics 6.7
    HDD 5.9

    Not bad at all for under 500 us.....

    Just ordered

    120gb OCZ agility 3 ssd

    Newegg.com - OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

    16gb 1600 corsair vengeance ram

    Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8G) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model CMSX16GX3M2A1600C10

    for 150 after promo code through newegg... Will be one hell of a system under 700 when its all set up... Just waiting on my package now... :D


    Blows my mind that we can pick up a 16gb set and solid 120gb ssd for 150 bucks these days... It wasn't too long ago that the ram alone was $400 plus....


    Still debating on putting original hdd in optical w/caddy or just picking up an aluminum usb 3.0 enclosure for 15 bucks to make hdd portable...


    I do recommend spending 20 bucks on a 160mm cooler master cooling pad for anyone using these for desktop replacement like me or for long gaming sessions...

    cooling pad link... Newegg.com - Cooler Master NotePal X-Slim Ultra Slim Laptop Notebook Cooling Pad, up to 17" (160mm Fan)

    Will update after upgrades....
     
  46. Gaugamela

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    Yet another A6 APU 15,6'' notebook review. This time it's the Samsung 355V5C by notebookcheck.net.
    Where the f*ck are the A10-4600M notebook reviews? Those are rarer than unicorns.

    And these guys really seem to have a bias against AMD. They state that this notebook is available with the A10 APU, then proceed to bash AMD because the A6 is way behind the Intel offerings. Ridiculous.
    You are getting a 7670M for 530€ which is highly impressive.
     
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    I followed those instructions to the tee, but now my 7660G isn't detected.
     
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    Well here's the official AMD Catalyst 12.9 Beta drivers which would probably work better for some of us than those drivers intended for embedded solutions. Instructions are included within the link above.

    Release Notes
    AMD Catalyst™ Software Suite Version 12.9 Beta Release Notes
    Back
    Last Updated
    9/26/2012
    Article Number
    GPU-174
    This article provides information on the latest posting of AMD’s software suite, AMD Catalyst™12.9 Beta. This particular software suite updates the AMD display driver and the AMD Catalyst™ Control Center and the AMD Vision Engine Control Center. This unified driver has been updated and is designed to provide enhanced performance and reliability.

    Package Content

    The AMD Catalyst software suite 12.9 Beta contains the following:


    AMD display driver version 9.001
    HydraVision™ for Windows Vista® and Windows® 7
    Southbridge/ IXP Driver
    AMD Catalyst Control Center version 9.001/ AMD Vision Engine Control Center version 9.001.

    Caution !

    The AMD Catalyst Control Center/AMD Vision Engine Control Center requires that the Microsoft® .NET Framework SP1 be installed for Windows XP and Windows Vista. Without .NET SP1 installed, the AMD Catalyst Control Center/AMD Vision Engine Control Center will not launch properly and the user will see an error message.
    Notes.


    When installing the AMD Catalyst driver for Windows operating system, the user must be logged on as Administrator or have Administrator rights to complete the installation of the AMD Catalyst driver.
    The Catalyst driver requires Windows 7 Service Pack 1 to be installed.
    These release notes provide information on the AMD display driver only. For information on the ATI Multimedia Center™, HydraVision, HydraVision Basic Edition, Remote Wonder™, or the Southbridge/IXP driver, please refer to their respective release notes found at: AMD Support & Drivers.
    AMD Eyefinity technology is designed to give gamers access to high display resolutions. As pixel count grows, the graphics “horsepower” required to drive the displays at a reasonable frame rate can increase dramatically. Depending on the game and system configuration, users may notice texture corruption and reduced frame rates when running games in multi-monitor Eyefinity modes.
    Windows Driver Model (WDM) drivers are no longer bundled in the AMD Catalyst software suite. The WDM drivers install bundle can be downloaded independently through the AMD website.

    AMD Product Compatibility


    The AMD Catalyst driver is compatible with the following AMD products.


    AMD Desktop Product Family Compatibility

    AMD Radeon™ HD 7900 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6500 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6410D Series

    AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6370D Series

    AMD Radeon HD 7660D Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6310D Series

    AMD Radeon HD 7560D Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 7300 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6200 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series

    ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series

    ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series

    ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6600 Series

    ATI Radeon HD 5600 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6550D Series

    ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6530D Series

    ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series


    AMD FireStream™ Product Families

    AMD FireStream™ 9350

    AMD FireStream 9250

    AMD FireStream 9270

    AMD FireStream 9170

    AMD Mobility Radeon™ Family Compatibility

    AMD Catalyst Mobility software is a notebook reference graphics driver with limited support for system vendor specific features. When used with Windows Vista or Windows 7, the user experience may be limited or compromised.


    The Installation Verification Software is designed to prevent driver download on certain notebook products. This is to protect against the installation of drivers that may disable features or functionality provided by the system manufacturer. When used with Windows Vista or Windows 7, the user experience may be limited or compromised. In such a situation, it is recommended to revert back to the driver provided by your system vendor for your specific platform. Please contact your system vendor for the most recent drivers for your notebook.


    AMD Mobility Product Families

    AMD Mobility Radeon HD 6900M Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6620G Series

    AMD Mobility Radeon HD 6800M Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6520G Series

    AMD Mobility Radeon HD 6300M Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6480G Series

    AMD Mobility Radeon HD 6300 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6380G Series

    AMD Mobility Radeon HD 6200 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6310G Series

    AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series

    AMD Radeon HD 6250G Series

    AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5700 Series



    AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5600 Series

    AMD PowerXpress™ enabled notebooks using AMD chipsets

    AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series

    AMD Mobility Radeon HD 5100 Series





    The following notebooks are not compatible with this release:

    Any notebook launched after this driver release.
    Switchable Graphics enabled notebooks.
    Toshiba notebooks (please contact the notebook OEM for driver support for these. notebooks).
    Sony VAIO notebooks (please contact the notebook OEM for driver support for these notebooks.
    Panasonic notebooks (please contact the notebook OEM for driver support for these notebooks).

    Compatible Operating Systems

    The latest version of the AMD Catalyst software suite is designed to support the following Microsoft Windows platforms:

    Windows 8 32-bit version
    Windows 8 64-bit version
    Windows 7 32-bit version
    Windows 7 64-bit version
    Windows Vista 32-bit version
    Windows Vista 64-bit version
    Windows XP Professional
    Windows XP Home Edition
    Windows XP Media Center Edition
    Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
    Feature Highlights of the AMD Catalyst 12.9 Beta: AMD Catalyst Mobility support for AMD Enduro Technology

    AMD Catalyst Mobility now includes support for AMD Enduro Technology.

    AMD Enduro Technology for Notebooks delivers:
    Long lasting battery life
    GPU accelerated performance for gaming, video, and compute apps
    A Seamless and automatic experience
    New features found in Catalyst 12.9 Beta:

    Re-designed Catalyst Control Center user interface
    View all profiled applications
    View recently run applications
    Profile applications based on power source
    Expert mode control and customization
    Performance centric AC
    Battery centric DC
    Feature Highlights of AMD Catalyst 12.9 Beta Linux® Driver: New OS Support

    This release of AMD Catalyst Linux introduces support for the following new operating systems.

    Ubuntu 12.10 early look support
    RHEL 6.3 production support
    Performance highlights of AMD Catalyst™ 12.9 Beta (versus AMD Catalyst 12.8)

    Up to 10% in Lost Planet 2 in single GPU configurations

    RESOLVED ISSUES

    This section provides information on resolved known issues in this release of the AMD Catalyst12.9 Beta software suite.


    Resolved Issues for the Windows 7 Operating System

    Krater crashes when run on HD 7000 series products
    Dirt Showdown 8-Ball hangs when CrossFire is enabled
    The Amazing Spider Man stuttering experienced at certain game locations
    Deus Ex Human Revolution: Intro scenes stutter
    F1 2011: Vehicle textures flicker when game is run at low settings
    Dirt Showdown: Flickering seen when benchmark is run in DirectX 11 mode
    Battlefield – Bad Company 2: Flickering textures seen in CrossFire mode
    Alan Wake: freezes when run in DirectX 9 mode with a 3x1 Eyefinity layout.
    Portal 2: freezes when run in DirectX 9 mode with a 3x1 Eyefinity layout
    Catalyst Control Center Overscan settings are now correctly retained across reboots
    Tri and Quad CrossFire+ Eyefinity configurations – Certain DirectX 10 and DirectX 11 applications lower than expected performance
    FireFox – corruption observed in CrossFire configurations
    Enabling Overdrive settings increased clocks in all power states
    Availability of AMD Video Converter support in AMD Catalyst 12.9 Beta Windows 7 and Windows Vista packages
    Resolved Issues for the Windows Vista Operating System

    Corruption seen during Blu Ray playback using Cyberlink PowerDVD 12
    Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Operating System

    Riddick – Assault on Dark Athena : Tearing observed when run at High game settings in a CrossFire configuration
    The audio driver incorrectly installed
    KNOWN ISSUES

    The following section provides a summary of open issues that may be experienced with the AMD Catalyst 12.9 Beta software suite.

    Known issues under the Windows 7 operating system

    Max Payne 3: Lights may flicker when run in Direct X 11 mode in a triple Crossfire configuration
    Metro 2033: Menus may flicker when run in DirectX 10 and DirectX 11 mode
    Guild Wars 2: Texture flicker/corruption may be seen when changing graphics settings
    Installing the AMD Catalyst Software Driver

    For further information and general help on software driver installation, game issues, and more, visit AMD Customer Care.

    Installation information can be found at: How to Install Your AMD Product.



    AMD Releases Catalyst 12.9 Beta Drivers
    Who needs WHQL certification…

    Sep 26, 2012 in Gaming, Graphics
    by Thomas Ryan

    In accordance with their new ‘whenever it makes sense’ graphics driver update cycle, AMD has released the 12.9 beta driver today. Back in June AMD announced that it was going to quit releasing monthly driver updates, in order to provide higher quality updates. It’s been three months since that rather disappointing day, when years of constant monthly updates finally came to an end. But AMD has made good on its promise of increased driver release quality by actively working on some of the more obvious problems, like switchable graphics support, which is a trouble spot that has been plaguing them for years now.
    Additionally, AMD seems to be improving its Linux driver support to some degree. This beta is now compatible with Ubuntu 12.10 and Red Hat 6.3. Granted AMD’s Linux drivers are still pretty crummy, some progress is better than none.
    We had a chance to play with these new drivers for a little bit before we published this article and noticed a few interesting things. The display driver version has finally moved from 8.xxx to 9.001 with this release. AMD has also made some minor changes to the Catalyst user interface in order to cater to mobile users that are taking advantage of AMD’s Enduro technology. These changes include application profiles based on the active power source and other enhancements.
    We installed these new drivers on three different platforms this afternoon. Our HD 6850 based system showed basically no difference between these drivers and the prior version. Our A10-4600 laptop also seemed just about the same. Notably, the CPU load that 1080P video playback put on our A4-3300M based Ubuntu 12.04.1 laptop dropped significantly, and the system no longer drops frames constantly.
    Overall this beta driver from AMD is really focused on its Enduro technology, but that’s not to say that it doesn’t address some pesky bugs. For more on the subject you can read AMD’s release notes.S|A
     
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