The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

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AMD A10 4655m Benchmarks thanks to the_mask and esrever over @ semiaccurate

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Today, 12:17 AM
the_mask
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AMD A10 4655m Benchmarks
I have yet to see a comprehensive review for that chip, so I decided I will quickly bench mine and post the results here.

The machine is a Samsung 535u4C configured as follows:

A10-4655m APU
8GB RAM (512MB allocated for the iGPU)
Samsung 830m 128GB SSD
14" 1366*768 display

and here are the results:

CineBench R11.5 64Bit CPU ST: 0.57 Points
CineBench R11.5 64Bit CPU MT: 1.69 Points
CineBench R11.5 64Bit OpenGL :25.39 FPS

PCMark Vantage : 8928

3DMark 11 : 893 3D Marks
3DMark 11 Graphics : 814
3DMark 11 Physics : 2193
3DMark 11 Combined : 773

x264 (32Bit) Pass 1 : 16.27 FPS
x264 (32Bit) Pass 2 : 3.81 FPS

Star Craft 2 (1366 * 768 @ medium quality) : 32 FPS

The machine feels smooth and snappy, using Linux in a VM is snappy as well, compiling times are not great though, mostly due to weak single threaded performance, but you get spare CPU power to use for something else while long builds take their time.

And...

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Today, 12:45 AM
esrever
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My scores for Cinebench and 3dmark11. Mines a HP sleekbook, with 8gb of ram and a 7200rpm drive.

Cinebench: OpenGL: ~25.8 CPU: 1.63 (4 thread) 1.37 (3 thread) 0.93/1.11(2 thread) 0.59 (single thread)

3Dmark11: P980 Graphics: 947 Physics: 1854 combined: 679

WEI: CPU:6.6 RAM:7.1 Desktop Graphic:6.6 Gaming Graphics:6.6 HDD:5.9

 

So is the Samsung Series 5 slower than HP Envy Sleekbook by 100 3DMark11 points? That is a big difference. Wonder if this driver and OS issue or Samsung throttling the APU? Maybe the HP can benefit somehow from the non-soldered Memory modules?

 

Review of the Toshiba Satellite S855D-S5256 Notebook.
They complain about the bad case and keyboard mostly and not about the Trinity APU this time.

 

Maybe a combination of these? I am wondering some of these things myself.

Thanks, I added it to the list. I read it, they do complain about the notebook itself and don't condemn the APU all that much. They do however say its the most powerful integrated gpu they've tested. Trinity does offer that and CPU that's enough for a lot of real world tasks. Too bad most AMD Trinity notebooks aren't that exciting (even Llano). Things don't look too good for AMD in the future either but I hope they pull through. I think their products meet a lot of people's expectations, but its those darn notebooks themselves that don't put AMD in better light.


Guys, if you're interested in the MSI GX60, follow *The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*. Meaker has the first I believe.

 

I continue to hope that once the first wave of Windows 8 'ware is released, we'll see GOOD implementations with Trinity

 

Most likely the ram (dual-channel? bus-speed? drive-strength? ram-timing?) and how the "power-states" are set up. I've yet to see any manufacturer use anything even reasonably intelligent here for either amd or intel based notebooks..

And that's going to have a very big impact on the apu systems. You can actually easily tweak one of the hp sleekbookzzz... with lower volt ram, but tighter timing and higher default bus-speed -- and get better results than what you get with the standard setup. Both performance-wise and when it comes to heat.

Funny to see huge laptop manufacturers hire utterly incompetent people with no wish or ability to learn to tweak systems, though. But at least I know, now, that I'd be better off not banking on knowledge and skill to have any impact if I wanted a job in that part of the industry.

Maybe one day I'll find out what actually matters too.

 

Not bad, not bad at all.

In stock:
$545 Lenovo S405,AMD A8-4555M ULV,4GB-DDR3,500GB,14

Backorder/preorder:
$825 ASUS N56DP-DH11 AMD Quad-Core A10-4600M (2.30GHz) Processor, 15.6" Full HD (1920 x 1080) LED Display, 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, DVD Super Multi Drive, AMD Radeon HD 7730 2GB GDDR3 Graphics Card, Microsoft Windows 8 Home Premium 64 Bit, USB 3.0 / Bluetooth V4.0 / B&O Icepower Audio Ready, Instant On

Good deal on an A10-4600M notebook:
$549.99 Lenovo IdeaPad Z585 261729U 15.6" LED Notebook - AMD - A-Series A10-4600M 2.3GHz - 1366 x 768 HD Display - 6 GB RAM - 750 GB HDD - AMD Radeon HD 7660G Graphics Card - Genuine Windows 7 - 5 Hour Battery - HDMI

 

Has there been anything that put's an A10 in anything smaller that a 15.6" laptop?

Looking at the reviews, the A6 just isn't decent enough to compete on anything over an i5 laptop with integrated gxf... But that's the only thing that's been put in a small laptop.

So frustrating!

 

The A10-4655 is present in the Samsung Series 5 of 14''.
In Canada you can get the Samsung 355V4C or whatever with it as well. Maybe some 14'' Toshiba as well?

That S405 seems like a very atractive proposal at that price point. I'm really eager to see some reviews and benchmarks.

 

Thanks. Wound up with an ultrabook. Pricey, but at least it comes with a decent display. As usual, you get what you pay for.

 

Depends on the Ultrabook. The only ones with decent displays are the Asus Zenbooks.

 

Congrats on finding the right laptop.

Guag, I think the Vizio Ultrabooks come with IPS displays correct?

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Very sad to read this.

See:
Do or Die: AMD Moves Away From PCs Amid Steep Losses



This is not confidence inspiring nor does it make me want to 'invest' in any AMD platform at this time (even if I was in their target market).

Really, I hope AMD pulls through this very tough time they're experiencing.

 

AMD Already Tests Next Gen Low Power Kabini Chip

Given all the recent news, I think AMD's best bet will be in the low power/smartphone SoC space, the former of which is the only market space where they have actually beaten Intel in recent memory. They'll probably still make desktop and notebook GPUs, but even their GPU division has had slipping profits for the past year.

 

I hope AMD won't die before Kaveri will appear in laptops. After Intel Broadwell (hopefully) will be also strong enough to not need having discrete GPU...
According to this leak Kaveri is still scheduled for 2013, but layoffs probably will affect these dates.

 

I don't know. It ended up being only 15% layoffs, which is still huge, just not as much of a death grip as 30%. And they are continuing to focus on mobile platforms now, so laptops should be on their top priority.

 

or more mobile devices.

 

Aren't netbooks considered mobile devices? Tablets are basically touchscreen laptops without a keyboard.

 

They must be pinning their hopes on Steamroller. They need the Wii U, the Xbox720 and the PS4 to come out - all of them will have AMD hardware.
They need to improve their hybrid graphics software to be on par with Optimus or else they'll keep losing the mobile discrete GPU war and they need to get more notebooks with Fusion APUs.

 

I see those differently but yeah thats the idea, tablets and all that jazz

 

Still waiting on a 13" 1600x900, backlit keyboard, 8GB RAM, mSATA + SATA for < $1000. Kinda like the Gigabyte 14" U2442 which is perfect in every way except it's 14" and has i5-3210m 35W or i7-3517U 17W with 640m or 650m GPU.

If they can fit a 35W Intel CPU + 45W-55W GPU in the 14" 20mm form factor then if they axe the dedicated GPU and offer only the 35W Trinity A10 there's no reason they can't make that work in a 13" form factor, and possibly even thinner.

PLEASE SOME OEM DO THIS!

 

I would actually buy that, despite the need for a good cpu in what Im doing currently

 

I ran a quick OpenCL transcoding test on my A10-4600m. Thought I'd share the result. Please bear in mind I hardly ever transcode stuff as all the stuff I watch I have codecs for, and all the stuff I create can be uploaded to youtube as almost anything. So I have no idea what this result means in terms of being 'good or bad'. I left the iGPU at stock. No overclock.

What I used-


How long it took-


What it ended up as-


As that's a 700mb file I'd assume it would be easy to figure out how long it would take for bigger/smaller files ?

Anyway, that's what I got with my A10-4600m. Hopefully someone will find it useful.

 

No kidding. After perusing the majority of this thread, I think OEMs are still thinking of AMD as 'budget/value', thus cramming the majority of them into the 15"s, and not realizing the enthusiast potential. then again, enthusiast potential is such a small part of bottom line.

I'm on a e450 DM1 at the moment. It's nice, but I could go for a little more oomph. I'd love to see the 4655m in an 11.6 or 13.3, but I'd really love to see it with full 1080p. It doesn't NEED to be in the ultra/sleek/thin crust form factor, either. My DM1 is light enough for daily transport, and good enough to type on all day long iff needed.

I test drove an Asus UX31a with the 1080p this weekend, and I liked it. Assuming that all the new product for the remainder of the year is being released in the next two weeks to coincide with Win8, if nothing striking comes out, I'm going to have to pull the trigger on that Asus.

 

I'm in Indonesia also waiting for A10-4600M Laptops.
All the available laptops in Indonesia Market are still A8-4500M, with brand ASUS K45DR.
If only the ASUS K45DR A10-4600M has launch, I would buy it right away.

And I just wondering if upgrading A8-4500M to A10-4600M would be possible?

 

Here is what is wrong with OEM's and AMD:

Newegg.com - Acer Aspire AS7250-3821 Notebook AMD Dual-Core Processor E-450(1.65GHz) 17.3" 4GB Memory 500GB HDD 5400rpm 8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive AMD Radeon HD 6320

17.3" 1600x900 LCD
AMD E-450 APU
4GB DDR3 (1 DIMM)
DVDRW

$350

I mean really? 1600x900 17.3"? AMD E-450 in a 17" form factor?

 

I suspect all the non ULV versions are interchangable. I upgraded my A6-4400m to an A10-4600m without any problem in my Samsung NP355V5C.

Only one way to find out...

 

Exactly what we do not need... However the size and price of the laptop probably can catch few attentions. The laptop with smart building could be fan less.

 

HP site have few new configurable models, like G6z-2200 and Sleekbook 14z-b000. Interesting the Sleekbook 14z can hold up to 9mm HDD-s, but only available with Brazos APUs. The Envy Sleekbook 6z-1100 now configurable with A8-4555M. The Envy DV6z-7200 is available with 7670M 1GB or 2GB discrete VGA, while the nonsense 7730M eliminated. My favorite laptop is still the Samsung Series 5 Ultrathin, hope to see more new models...

 

Brace yourselves because apparently AMD has 125 PC designs ready for Windows 8.

 

this is what I keep harping about. MS put all the OEM's on "ice" until they figure out their rollout. its murder on a product line to have overlapping factory loads - basically kills the very narrow margins these guys are dealing with.

i wonder if the adjusting of emphasis by MS to favor RT will hasten the downward spiral of desktop/notebook... we'll watch and see

 

Thanks for pointing these notebooks out. I will add them to the list.

I am very disappointed that the 14.0" HP Pavilion Sleekbook is currently only being offered with E2-1800! I thought we were suppose to see A-series APUs in this model? For $525, at least give us the dual-core 17W Trinity APU and for a little more the 19W and 25W APUs HP! This chassis seems big enough to cool the more powerful ULV APUs but they only offer the E-series APU?! If I wanted an ULV APU powered notebook, I would MUCH rather pick up the Lenovo IdeaPad S405 with an A8-4555M for $535 from here or here than the Pavilion Sleekbook right now.

As for the ENVY Sleekbook, I would just opt for the A10-4655M. Maybe if the price on a comparable model with the A8-4555M was low enough, I'd consider it.

Isn't the 7730M more powerful (and overclockable) than the 7670M? I know it can't do Dual-Graphics, but its a worthy discrete GPU in itself. If AMD continues to improve crossfire performance than the 7670M seems like a reasonable choice but is 2GB of VRAM necessary? Maybe just for high-res or multiple-display gaming/work?

Sounds promising but lets see what they actually deliver (and WHEN they deliver). It would be nice to see a leaked list of these "125 PC Designs" to find out how many are actually notebooks and tablets/hybrids. The article mentions Dell and Sony but those two manufacturers haven't came out with absolutely NOTHING Trinity-powered so I'm not going to hold my breath. I'll believe it when I see it.

The Sony ultrathin that was shown off at Computex 2012 with the other Trinity notebooks from other OEMs was just the Brazos 2.0-powered 11.6" Sony Vaio E. If you don't believe me pull up some pictures and compare them yourself. I noticed this a while back while trying to find any new information on anything Trinity-powered from Sony. Unless Sony is working on putting the ULV Trinity APUs in this chassis and I'm wrong here, I won't take Sony as a serious AMD/Trinity partner. What a shame.

Maybe we'll see AMD ARM based Windows RT tablets/hybrid with Radeon GPUs within a year or two? I read on Semiaccurate that its likely AMD will be using third-party IP in their future APUs to start building custom APUs for customers. Windows RT is expected to grow in popularity so I think it would be wise and advantageous for AMD to compete in this space for many reasons.

Old Anandtech article mentioning this possibility:
AnandTech - AMD is Open to Integrating 3rd Party IP in Future SoCs


Newer and more recent articles mentioniong this (very likely) possibility:
AMD Strategy Announcement Could Include ARM Deal

AMD eyes ARM IP and realignment

 

Now w/ Windows 8 preload
HP Pavilion 17.3" Laptop 4GB Memory 640GB Hard Drive g7-2235dx - Best Buy

$449.

 

Toshiba 14" L840D-BT3N22 With A8-4500M $470
Toshiba Satellite L840D-BT3N22 Laptop

 

Wow, even at less than $500, these 'deals' are a pass.

Forget that you need another $99 for the real Win8 PRO...

Forget the cpu, forget the rest of the spec's - but 10/100 Ethernet going into 2013? Really?

Not a chance.

The real deals right now are in buying SNB based notebooks at comparable prices with a $15 'upgrade' to Win8 Pro and free Media Center Pack (limited time) instead of buying pre-1999 'tech' in late 2012.

Sorry, but the whole package is what interests me (balance baby) and these packages are sorely lacking when they try to pass 18 year old technology in a current product.

 

Windows 8 Pro is comparable to Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate[2][3] and is targeted towards enthusiasts and business users; it includes all the features of Windows 8. Additional features include operating as a Remote Desktop server, the ability to participate in a Windows Server domain, Encrypting File System, Hyper-V, and Virtual Hard Disk Booting, Group Policy as well as BitLocker and BitLocker To Go. Windows Media Center functionality will be available only for Windows 8 Pro as a free "add-on."

I have Win7 Ultimate, Pro, and Home Premium.
guess which one gets the most work?

 

I think most (non-techie, mainstream, casual) people use wireless over wired when connecting to the internet at home, and on the go. Probably because of the convenience to move about without a wire getting in the way. If you absolutely need Gigabit Ethernet, some of these laptops are obviously not for you. You're right, its a shame to not include Gigabit Ethernet in this day and age though but I doubt the average consumer even knows or cares. The same applies for the OS version for most consumers. Unless you absolutely need the specific features of Pro, the regular version will suffice.

If my budget for a laptop was $500, the above notebooks might just be viable options.

A Windows 7 laptop is a valid option, but drivers are not yet fully saturated to support Windows 8. My E425 is one of those, some drivers haven't yet been updated for W8.

 

Well, I just placed an order for the Samsung Series 5 with AMD A10-4655. Amazon.com: Samsung Series 5 NP535U4C-A01US 14-Inch Laptop (Silver): Computers & Accessories

I couldn't help myself. I don't really need it, but I just enjoy benchmarking, and testing new and odd technology. I will be sure to give it its full gamut of tests. I have an Intel 330 180GB, Samsung 830 256GB, and Crucial M4 256GB to test in it. I also have a plethora of DDR3 RAM modules to use including the Samsung 4GB 1.35V RAM. I know the IGP needs dual channel, but unfortunately 4GB is soldered on, but at least it's 1600MHz.

There are like ZERO decent laptops with the flagship A10-4600m APU. That's too bad because a single 35W CPU should be able to fit in any 11-14" chassis without issue, yet nobody offers it.

 

Yeah, its a pity that nobody wants to fit the A10 into a decent laptop with a good screen. I finally gave up on getting a good trinity laptop and settled for a Dell outlet new inspiron 15R special edition with a 7730M and a Core i5 3210M with 1080p screen for $600. Sigh..

 

We are looking forward to see those testings, I know you are very thorough. Later I'll buy the same Ultrathin, whenever I settled with my new home/workplace... I realized I only need two electronic things around me; A Samsung Galaxy SII telephone and a Samsung Series 5 Ultrathin. This two thing could perfectly cover all my mobile things elegantly with plenty of power... Tablets, desktops I do not cares about.
So where did you get the soldered Memory is 1600MHz in it?

 

A10-4655M
◦Processor supports memory up to DDR3-1333, DDR3L-1333 and DDR3U-1066
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-A10-Series%20A10-4655M%20(AM4655SIE44HJ).html

Can you test to see if it operates at SATAII or SATAIII speeds?

Jerry Jackson wrote:

 

Awww crud 1333. Why do they do that? That hampers the GPU performance. For whatever reason I thought it was 1600. I'm ok with SATA II, I don't really think it matters that much for general use.

 

agree.
one would think the old tried/true gigabit parts would be so cheap that the makers couldn't afford not to use them, unless we're seeing a melding of tablet/notebook board designs - which I doubt.
I do tech work for others and routinely make my thinkpad and an older "lab mule" dc7600 do unnatural acts in support of all sorts of tech issues - I cannot think of even one time I have actually needed gigabit throughput. I can imagine it - but the scenarios I imagine would be better served by firewire.
I recently re-did my Time Warner service and the "good" deal resulted in a cut of RR bandwidth to 10mbs. the one good thing about those guys is they deliver the bacon - I get around 11mbs anywhere/everywhere on my wireless setup and, again, I can't really say that I have missed the extra bw - when I have a huge .iso or something to pull off the web, I don't sit there waiting on it...

 

Yeah just somethings to be aware of. I'm still looking forward to your thurough review and testing of this Samsung NP535U4C. From what I've gathered even with a TDP of 25W and 1333 RAM the 7620G's 3D performance beats a 45W Llano 6620G with 1600 RAM (both using dual-channel RAM). That's incredible to me.

I would like to know more about the cpu-side of this APU, and how it compares to Llano's.

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HP Envy Sleekbook 6z would be the one for managing out the maximum of A10-4655M, because the Samsung's integrated M471B5273DM0-CH9 is just a regular memory and will cripple the additional super stick. Wonder if my HP Trinity's factory RAM was a 4GB 1600MHz CL11 1.35V changeable module, than why Samsung saved pennies on the integrated one? I think managers sometimes more harmful than useful...

 

Was really looking forward to this one too, looks agazing for the price - unfortunately looks like the s400 (and therefore the s405) is only capable of single channel RAM - VERY bad for the trinity iGPU

Check out the CPU-Z screenshots here - the memory screenshot shows the max RAM (4gb) in single channel only. Was kinda hoping that it would be 2GB soldered on and a 2GB SODIMM (a bit like the Samsung 535)...... ahh well....

Review Lenovo IdeaPad S400 Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

 

Thanks for that, read it and got the jist of it. Basically its got a crappy glossy display, short battery life due to small capacity, and ancient fast ethernet. The build quality is questionable, made entirely of plastic and wobbly/warps in some areas.

I think the single-channel memory status is due to the 4GB 1600 RAM soldered to the motherboard. According to the hardware maintenance manual, there should be a single open sodimm slot (enabling dual-channel). In the review, they said they couldn't open the notebook to see inside, which is a shame. I would like to see real life photos of the S400 and S405 motherboards to know what the RAM setup is like AND if there's mSATA on both the S400 and S405 or just one of them.

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Well if there is 4GB soldered on then that's not so bad, but Lenovo (and several reviews as well) say that the max working memory is 4GB. I think that the 4GB is already installed in the single memory slot detailed in the Hardware manual. If it could only handle 4GB max, and that was soldered on, then what would the extra slot be for?

If anyone has any info otherwise (for either the s400 or s405) then please let me know, because I actually wouldn't mind one of these!

 

AMD to make ARM x86 and 64 bit processors

BREAKING NEWS: AMD Teams Up with ARM to Transform the Datacenter Industry - X-bit labs

ALSO

11.6" AMD E2-1800 for 399 pounds (looks like to challenge the DM1z)
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/sony-vaio-sve1112m1ew-11-6-laptop-white-17056562-pdt.html

 

I wonder how this is going to affect the mobile nonserver space? Seems like a good plan for servers to me and i hope this will turnout to be a smart move for AMD. This could lead to some much needed company growth and success.

Steamroller and Jaguar, mobile quad cores all across the board, nice!

http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=170506&amp;postcount=3


And that Sony looks cool. Would've liked to have seen it with ULV Trinity and dual-channel ram instead by now.


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