The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

Sadly, i'm getting to the point where I might not believe it until I see it.

 

Right. This all sounds great but they need a party to get on board with creating decent machines that are powered by their APU's. As we've seen with Trinity they're slim picking.

 

hey guys there another one amd that 14 inch hp g4-2235dx HP Pavilion g4-2235dx Notebook PC Product Specifications HP Pavilion g4-2235dx Notebook PC | HP® Support

but is not out yet ... it should come to bestbuy website in the coming weeks .

 

A6 again. Come on already. A10 in slim 14" or smaller PLEASE!

 

Overdrive hard locks the gx60, with or without a dedicated card inserted. Installing it makes the system crash at startup too.

 

Any word on if the Samsung 535 13.3" with A6-4455M is single-channel only (soldered memory and memory slot behind same 64-bit bus) or does it support dual-channel?

Are any manufacturers bringing A10-4655M to 13.3" machines?

The A6-4455M Samsung costs 500€ here, could be nice upgrade from my current 11.6" E-350 laptop.

 

Yes the 13.3" is dual channel. Check out the memory details screenshot of CPU-Z here

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Series-5-535U3C-Notebook.83159.0.html

I've also heard on other forums that these Samsung's are dual channel.

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any stock in the UK. I'm after the 14" version, but can't find it anywhere

Hope that helps

 

Thanks.

I read the review you posted and seems like AMD isn't very honest about their TDP values, laptop with 17W Trinity reached over 40W power consumption and that was with all Turbo features disabled.

 

TDP is strictly Thermal Power required to cool the chip not power consumed. Plus where did you get those values. Was it from the full laptop or how did they measure the power of the chip only?

 

When working with a laptop at that power consumption level, PSU losses, screen use, ram power consumption and HDD/SSD usage can all make up a huge chunk of that.

 

From the article that was linked in the post I quoted:

 

That's 41.8W for the entire system: CPU + RAM + HDD/SSD + Display + Wi-Fi, etc. Not just the CPU.

In other news, I cancelled my Samsung Series 5 order a few days ago. I think I might go for the A6-4455m Lenovo S405. Although since many of the test were run with single RAM sticks, I'm not sure what the real performance is of the A6-4455m. On paper it looks comparable to the A8-4655m, basically same speeds, only 7600g has 384 pipes vs 256 of the A6. Although 3DMark11 of ~ 600 seems a little low.

 

Are those peak watts then? I think the 40W AC adapter can handle a little more than rated as a safety net. Maybe Samsung did a poor job optimizing energy consumption in this 5 Series.

I'm just speculating here but what if this is related to the heat issues noticed by some np535u3c owners on Amazon. They claim theirs run hotter than what they'd like; some resorting to repastes.

Why'd you decide against the Samsung? Price? Hardware issues?


Id say go for the A8 S405 but the A6 should do well enough and costs less. A8 has:
-More cores in both the cpu and gpu
-More L2 Cache
-384 shader units vs 256 shader units
-But lower (base and turbo) cpu clocks frequencies
-19W TDP vs 17W TDP, just 2W more but could impact battery life and heat production

-I predict ~900-925 in 3DMark11 for the A8-4555M+7600G using dual channel 1333

Either way I'm still looking forward to it.



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They probably misread something or battery was charging all the time. The 35W A6-4400M do not really use more than 40W under load ( whole system power consumption tests), but significantly more if battery is charging. Usually the charging process takes 38W when computer is turned off. I've also noticed charging process limit computers performance even with 65W adapter, so tests always have to be done with fully charged battery.

 

It was mainly price/performance. In trying to find actual benchmarks that confirms use of dual channel 1333, I believe the A6 scores closer to 800 in 3DMark11 or high 700's at least. The Lenovo S405 with A6 is only $429 (per the deal you posted to Staples). I know it's dual core, but I have an Asus Eee with an E-450 and it performs quite well. My kids use it to play Minecraft which it does well and not so well on the Core 2 Duo ULV netbooks they have. If I *needed* such a netbook then I'd likey spring for the Samsung (which is back up to $750 btw), but this is just for fun, so trying to limit my expense.

My other issue is that I have a spare dual core i5, plenty of RAM, SSD's, and wi-fi card laying around, and can pick up a barebones Compal or Clevo for < $500 for a much more powerful system. But I like AMD's APU's and am fascinated by their tech.

 

Gang I'm starting to despair here about the viability of this line. somebody talk me out of jumping.....

Is there a thread similar to this somewhere that would show the current good [meaning good displays, good QC, good components] notebooks that would have the option of a 7xxx-series discrete card????? There will be a lotta slash/burn pricing going on as the year-end draws nigh and I don't want to sit waiting on a Trinity model that will never arrive.

 

Don't know about those threads. But I would wait for AMD to get their update issues sorted out with the mobile GPUs.

 

Well I am liking my GX60, just got my two 256GB Crucial M4 drives in so will run some benchmarks.

 

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but Staples has the Lenovo S405 with the A6 for $429.99
Lenovo Ideapad S405-59351953 14" Laptop | Staples®

 

Thanks, but yep, posted in the deals section: http://forum.notebookreview.com/not...ng-staples-com-deal-expires-11-03-2012-a.html

That's the one I'm debating on.

 

Will the Playstation 4 use a Trinity APU?

 

Has anyone gone from trinity to llano?

If it's possible, considering the massive cooling potential of the MSI, would it be worth it with a highly overclocked chip?

 

My Llano A8-3510MX can be set to 4.0GHz at 1.365V via FusionTweaker. However, on my computer that setting will almost always cause a BSOD. What could be preventing it from running at that setting? Many things:

-motherboard
-cpu
-chipset fch
-RAM
-90W AC adapter
-copper and fan cooling system
-BIOS UEFI

First we need to know that a Llano APU even works in a Trinity motherboard before talking about overclocking the cpu. I don't think it'll work though. The best we'll see is for AMD to unlock mobile Trinity's cpu.

 

HP Pavilion 14" Laptop 4GB Memory 500GB Hard Drive g4-2235dx - Best Buy

here the hp g4-2235dx...

 

given that all of these have lousy displays, you may as well spend less and get the hp

 

What do you think of the new ASUS U38N with A8-4555 and 13 inch 1920x1080 res?

Komplett.se - ASUS VivoBook U38N 13,3" FHD IPS touch

Hmm, seems like 2GB RAM is soldered to the motherboard.

 

Overpriced for what it offers. 900€ with a 5400rpm HDD and 4Gb of RAM???????

 

Awesome find! I am in love with the U38 and the hardware it brings. I would replace my E425 with one. I prefer a matte finished display but would be willing to overlook that in this case. The minimum RAM I want in my computer is 8GB, I don't understand why some of these OEMs artificially limit some models. Even with these flaws, I have a feeling this model will be the one of the most popular Trinity ultrathin.

2012 Asus Focus Group Q4--





Asus U38N listad i butik med Full HD-pekskärm och AMD A8-4555M - www.NHW.se






Just to recap:

Straight Hair Brush
on LCD cover and palm rest

ZENBOOK style chassis
Elegant whole aluminum A/C/D part
Thickness from 5.5mm to 18.6mm

Framless Touch Panel (U38N)
Design for Windows 8 Metro UI
Full-HD LCD provides 178* wide viewing angle

Outstanding Audio Quality
Bang and Oufsen ICEpower
Asus SonicMaster Technology

Illuminated Chiclet Keyboard
Laser etched, backlit chiclet keys


Windows 8 64-bit
13.3" LED backlit Full-HD 1920x1080p IPS touch display (178* viewing angle)
16:9, Glare, 72% NTSC color gamut
Backlit Keyboard
327 x 227 x 18.6 mm and has a weight of 1.55 kg

AMD A-Series quad core and dual core ULV APUs
A10-4655M (Radeon 7620G) - U38N-C4009P
A8-4555M (Radeon 7600G) - U38N-C4010H
A6-4455M (Radeon 7500G) - U38N-C4013H
....................................... - U38N-C4011H
A8-4555M (Radeon 7600G) - U38DT-R3001H

AMD A70M
4GB (1x2GB + 2GB (soldered)) DDR3 1600

500GB 5400RPM HDD
Serial ATA-300

Integrated webcam
Speakers, Microphone
ASUS SonicMaster, ASUS Bang & Olufsen ICEpower

802.11n, Bluetooth 4.0

6-cell lithium polymer 48 Wh Battery

AC 120/230V (50/60Hz), 65 Watt, 19V, 3.42A

Mini-VGA, HDMI, 3xUSB3.0, Headphone/Microphone combo jack, Memory card reader

Dark Silver (cover accessory included)

System password, hard drive password

Width 32.7 cm
Depth 22.7 cm
Height 1.86 cm
Weight 1.55 kg (3.42 lb)

 

Yeah, the Trinity U38N has it all, part from the possibility to replace the RAM. It's lacking SSD, though.

Is there any way of downgrading the atrocious Win 8 to Win 7? :-/

 

On that photo that davidricardo posted it seems to have 128Gb written in the sticker. If that's the case then I would assume that it is an SSD.

 

And it will probably never make its way to the USA...

 

It's just made of too much win for you guys to handle

 

The RAM issue upsets me, I hope things clear up once Asus releases more information. As for the SSD, see below.

[/url] ASUS U38N A10-4655M 6GB 128GB SSD WINDOWS 8_02 by davidc646, on Flickr[/IMG]

Yup, SSD. At least in this model in the photos. Also notice how the Page Up, Page Down, Home and End keys are missing from the right side of the keyboard. What is up with that Asus? Seriously, what was wrong with having those keys there? Why oh why...

I can't be too hard on this tidbit about the U38N because my E425 is also lacking those keys from the right side of my keyboard.

I seriously hope it arrives on our shores. Otherwise, my E425 will probably survive until Kaveri and Jaguar just fine.

Lucky lucky Green with envy.

Hurry up and buy one, review it and let us know what we all want to know. Thanks :thumbsup:

 

So, aside from the Asus U38, which I'm considering vaporware until proven otherwise, is there anything else packing a Trinity APU into an ultrabook-like chassis with good build quality and a good screen? Any word on the potential hit wallets will take for a Trinity U38 if and when? It sounds expensive, even if AMD's APUs are cheaper than Ivy Bridge chips.

Since I just built a desktop, I'm probably out of the running to buy a new notebook in the next year or so, but I'm still interested in following whether or not manufacturers utilize AMD's APUs in machines that compete with the quality ultrabooks on the market. Although Intel's got the buzzword locked by owning the name Ultrabook, one would think that an APU would be better than an Intel processor in an ultrabook-like machine because, for the sacrifice of some processing power that most ultrabook owners will never need, they offer a significant boost in graphics processing that many owners would actually use. Not to mention they'd be cheaper.

Anyway, it's good to see that Asus is apparently finally catching on to that fact. The question remains, is anybody else?

 

Ah. Had to be something, of course. So instead of the neat fn-arrows combo for pgup,pgdown,end,home from the EeePC, we get... a direct link to the Windows Media Center, and no way to change the key-combo.

Dealbreaker. Seriously, dealbreaker. Can't write on it if you don't have end/home. Only survive on my n56 because the num-pad has extra shortcuts right next to the arrows.

 

I really really like the u38n that ticks everything that AMD should tick.

Now we have some worries:

Asus Q&A is going down.

Price

Where its going to be released

Availability

SSD format

Non worrying things:

RAM: its 6gb in there, it stands to reason that 4gb is soldered and there is a socket, so total is 12gb, why dont sell 2 models, 8gb and 16gb call it a day.

 

I'd guess 2GB would be soldered... (not 4GB).

There is a reason we don't get what's 'reasonable': we're expected to replace systems yearly, not get a fully capable system and use it until WE decide it is time to upgrade.

 

I guess Im optimistic.

No one is making you buy or not buy anything. There is no deadline on the product. In fact its you that stablish that deadline, when the product is not enough for you. For example my father still uses a x61 for CAD work, I dont know how he does that, but he does. He only bought a new notebook because the old one (it was a core duo t2300) got stolen. My mother still uses her amd notebook, its 6 years old. My sister uses a t4400 for running trading platforms and she only got 4gb of ram.

So yes, its you that decides if its not working out anymore.

 

That is one side to the equation (the 'us' that decides).

The other side is the competition which can offer the same services (from last month/year) for half the cost.

If my hardware is not capable of making me 2x more productive or I am not willing/capable of working twice as long for the same money; then my competition is driving me to upgrade my platforms.

 

I don't think this is on the list yet.

Acer Silky Silver 15.6" Aspire V5-551-8401 Laptop PC with AMD A8-4555M Accelerated Processor and Windows 8: Computers : Walmart.com

I caved in and bought the staples s405 because I needed a laptop badly.

 

Another thing I get pretty often after explaining the expansion options, is that people look at me as if I'm the stupidest person on earth, and then say something like this: "Then I'll wait until the price drops or a new model comes out". Most people aren't as stupid as most people think, like someone I know said ..at least when it comes to their own money.

But I mean, it makes sense, right? If you can't get a model with as much RAM and storage as you want, and you can't buy upgrades for it right away - then you're either going to go look for a different product. Or you're just going to buy the one with 6Gb and make do with it. And then if that works for you, then you're not going to upgrade. Unless it's extremely easy and convenient as well as safe. (Or you have some intrepid and helpful relative who can just "fix things" for you, of course.. :/)

 

Haven't seen that one before, thanks! I've gone ahead and added most of the laptops recently found to the list. This Acer is actually very appealing and got some of the basics right the first time. First, its cost of $500 is very attractive for an ULV quad core Trinity. On price alone, it beats the Lenovo S405 with A8-4555M (but has a few disadvantages) and the Toshiba S955D-S5374 (A8-4555M). Next, it weighs 5 lbs and is less than an inch thin, actually got Gigabit Ethernet correct, typical N-wifi and BT 4.0, supports Dual-Channel Memory via the two SODIMM slots and Acer didn't use the weakest slowest APU available.

The Acer Aspire V5-551-7850 is the model with the A6-4455M. What is up with most of the ULV Trinity laptops using 4-cell batteries?! I think the only exception is the Samsung NP535U4C (certain versions of it).

How is the S405? Can you provide us with a personal review? I would like to know if there is an mSATA connector inside as well as how the RAM is set up. I know the OEM RAM is soldered, and there's an open SODIMM slot but how much RAM is soldered?

 

How is this Asus one with A10 and 7730M with 1080p ?

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=991042

 

I know that it only has one ram slot, so dual channel is not an option. The ram not soldered according to the service manual. the specs show a maximum of 8GB. the ram in the laptop is a 4GB 1600mhz stick.

If anyone is wondering about durability, I dropped it on a wood floor from about 2 feet with the lid closed on the first day. The laptop received a minor scratch to the lid about 1/4 of an inch long and not very noticeable. Other than that, the metal trim covering the hinge came loose and took about 5 minutes of fiddling to get back on.

pros::thumbsup
bright screen (not 1080p HD but still loads better than the one on my old sony)
good keyboard with no flex (typical of lenovo)
doesn't have the heat problem the samsungs appear to have, even when playing skyrim
great speakers (better in my opinion than he ones on my friend's envy 15 unless you like deep bass)
card reader
user replacable battery (does anyone ever replace them?)
miniscule power brick

cons:
windows 8 (I like it, but its a con for some of you)
battery life nothing of legend (3-4 hours)
average bloatware
the headphone and microphone jack are 1 jack

I paid $414 including tax because I had some staples rewards laying around. Alot cheaper than some of those ultrabooks.

That's all for now, its late and I should be getting to bed. I'll try and make a review for tomorrow.

 

Thanks Tesla. I just ordered the S405 with A8-4555m from Amazon.com @ $540 + free shipping. Had $150 in Amazon.com gift certs so used those. Less than $400 out the door. Should be here beginning of next week. I don't really need it but I just can't help myself but test out new tech. Even if I sell it after a month of use I'm sure I can get $400-$450 back for it, and heck, I can always return it to Amazon.

Seems that the 35W chips OEM's just won't install in 14" or smaller notebooks.

 

You are very welcome.
(It seems like an odd purchase for someone with 2 sagers )
I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

 

I'm just an enthusiast...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...g-benchmarked-various-ram-configurations.html
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...-e-350-radeon-6310-gpu-benchmark-results.html
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...9-amd-e-350-e-450-intel-i3-2367-compared.html
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...amd-radeon-hd-6750m-benchmarking-results.html

 

Cool, looking forward to more about the S405.

LV and ULV Trinity has become a little more prevalent. So far Acer, ASUS, HP, Lenovo, Samsung and Toshiba have made and are selling them. For a good while HP and Samsung were the only options. However, I'd still like to see better options within these OEMs.

 

tes - would you mind, when you have time, doing the 'netflix test' for everyone's benefit? to the question I have raised a couple times: we really don't know the "min req't" for Trinity rigs doing silverlight/n'flix... especially, if you will, both onboard display and HDMI-out to a high def if you can. bigger/better.

 

I don't have a netflix account, nor do I have anything in the house that can accept hdmi input or has a resolution higher than 1440x900 :/ I don't even have an hdmi cable. Sorry.