The Ultimate CPU Guide

I just bought a nice new HP DV5Z laptop, and I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find info or benchmarks for the AMD TURION 64 RM-70 2.0ghz processr

 

Very nice topic ! Totally great to read this one in addition of Chaz GPUs one.
I would be interested in the same question as supermarket
I rely a lot on Notebookcheck classification on CPU and GPU, good to see other sources of information.
I have to choose a laptop for a friend and made a selection of models with intel P series (P7350, P8400, P8600). So I'm very interested in knowing if their faster FSB can balance their lower frequency...
Because on Noteboockcheck, their rank is not vey high compared to some T8 serie CPU.
For example, I would have expected the P7350 to equal the T8100, the P8400 - T8300 and P8600 - T9300...
But they seem to be one step below my expectations.
My greatest concern is about two models of laptops :

Acer Aspire 5930G-844G32Mn intel P8400 - nvidia 9600MGT 15"4 (1280*800)
Asus M50VM-AS010C intel P8600 - nvidia 9600MGS 15"4 (but 1440*900)

The Asus is also a lot more expensive by the way... But I don't rely much on Acer either...
My goal is a lot of games, recent ones if possible.
Is the upgrade from P8400 to P8600 balance the downgrade from 9600GT to GS ? I'm not sure...
Perhaps a P8600 with a 9600MGT would be too expensive for me, so I didn't found any models like that.

Thanks for your help !

 

It looks like I've found an Intel T3200 CPU in this notebook.

Intel's website doesn't yet acknowledge its existence but Google has found this translated page.

2GHz, socket 478, 1MB cache and 667MHz FSB.

How does this new number fit into the Intel system?

John

 

Penryn based Pentium Dual Core? I'm just guessing.

 

T3200, very strange indeed. Always odd cpu on notebooks

By the way anyone to answer me previous post ? thanks !

 

the 9600m GT all the way... since there is a really less difference between the clock speeds of the processors there wont be any noticeable difference in performance where games are concerned...

btw the P7350 is OEM only that is why many havnt heard about it and it also seems to be the first processor released for OEMs since its release date is somewhere in april/may

 

it looks like the T3000 series is Intel labelling for the pentium dual core with 667mhz FSB

T3200 (2.0 GHz, 667MHz FSB and 1MB L2 cache)

 

Is there a major difference between T9400 and T9500? I am concern about the FSB difference of 800mhz and 1066mhz

 

In terms of Raw CPU power, No. In terms of overall performance, Yes.
Because higher FSB -> more bandwidth for RAM and GPU. The data/instruction exchange between the CPU and the RAM/GPU is faster.

 

Lithus, is AMD Turion MK-38 can be upgarde to Turion X2 TL 62..?

thks bro for your response

 

you should be able to upgrade, but before check that you have the latest bios.

What's your laptop?

 

I have two laptops first acer aspire 4351 and the second one is Acer aspire 5052, so I have to check bios first and then install new bios and then upgrade to another procie..TL 62 (is somebody want sell it to me .. )
if I am not mistaken the socket is S1 is tthe same with the turion x2..

thx

 

There's a new processor number appearing in HP retail notebooks. It is the T5800 and specs are- 2.0GHz clock speed, 800MHz FSB and 2mb L2 cache.

Based on the specs, it looks identical to the T5870 used in the Dell Vostro and a few other lower-end business notebooks. It also has identical specs to the T7250, but without VT....

 

The bios upgrade is good but may be not needed. You could be lucky in the sense that your current Bios already supports the TL60 - TL62 processors.

 

Don´t know if someone corrected this already (too long topic to read through...) but Montevina does not only support 800MHz DDR3 but also 1066MHz DDR3 RAM as seen in new Lenovo T400 for example.

 

first off, great guide.
but where would the t2410 2Ghz processor slot in? the one in this notebook:
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Lenovo_ThinkPad_R61i_7650_NG1F7UK/version.asp
or should i ask this somewhere else...

 

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It is also in many new Sony Vaio SR200 series notebooks on amazon.com, and not on Intel's website.

 

I have a acer 4315, I installed 3(2+1) gig memory. I bought a t5550 cpu. It won't boot up. I put the m540 backed. It worked fine. I upgraded the bios to 1.08 and 1.13 respectfully. Both acted the same.

Can the T5550 work with that model or it's a defected cpu? Can someone offer some suggestion ?

Regards,
Striker888

 

Hey all I just recently snatched up an Acer Aspire 5735-4624 from Best Buy for 399.99. I haven't broken the seal on it yet because I wanted to research the processor etc...I came across this guide and saw that the Intel Pentium dual-core T3200 was briefly mentioned but nobody seems to know much about it. I did some looking around and found the processor on Intel's site here,

http://www.intel.com/Consumer/Learn/Notebook/pentium-dual-core-detail.htm?iid=SEARCH

You have to click view processor numbers after you click the link.

How would this processor compare performance wise to other processors? It appears to be the only 45nm chip on that chart. Any input would be appreciated. Also here are some other specs

http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/Product/Intel/LF80537GF0411M

THANKS!

 

The T3200 is a Pentium Duo Core with a 667mhz FSB instead of 533mhz. If I'm not wrong with a compatible BIOS it can be upgraded to T9600

 

Where does that put me performance wise, does anyone have benchmarks that would give me an idea?

 

I am planning to buy a used CPU (T5600) which was removed from a Apple laptop. I want to know would a CPU from an apple laptop fit into a Asus laptop.

Thanks in advance.

 

Yes. As long as the Asus laptop uses the same type of processor.

 

I currently have a T2050 so i think T5600 has the same socket.

 

Is there a thread that talks about the Pros and Cons of Overclocking your CPU? I'm trying to understand if this is really beneficial or not.

 

Unless the temps are under control, and you don't overclock the RAM over its rated frequency, then it would be fine.

 

I'm balancing between 12" Acer/MSI with T3200/T2330 models OR Acer Aspire One Atom N270 ... Any suggestions? Laptop would be my DJing machine. I will be running Virtual DJ5 + usb controller-soundcard Hercules RMX ... Any ideas?

 

how does the Turion RM 70 compare with the C2D P7350? In gaming especially.

 

The P7350 will be much faster than the RM-70, but in gaming - GPU power matters more, so you'll get more or less similar performance with both.

 

I have a Samsung R560 Notebook on its way to me.. The cpu it comes with is a Mobile C2D P7350 (2.0GHz) 1066MHz FSB with 3MB Cache. I currently have a Notebook from which I wish to swap the cpu to the R560, its a Mobile C2D T9300 (2.5Ghz) 800Mhz FSB with 6mb Cache.

I know both cpus are pin compatible, 1 generation apart, both are Penryn based, 25/35w TDP, the T9300 comes from a Santa Rosa chipset and the R560 I belive is (Centrino 2) Montivina. The Centrino 2 chipset (PM45) will support the T9300, but am not sure about the Santa Rosa supporting the P7350 ? any ideas, I cant seem to find any info on the net ?

If the cpu swap goes ok, will the end clock speeds be affected ? I know this happens for desktop cpus but not sure for mobile... the T9300 moving from 800fsb -> 1066fsb and the P7850 1066fsb -> 800fsb.

Just looking for some answers to see if its worth me ripping both machines apart (experienced with this kind of thing) and invalidating warranty esp for the new R560

 

You might void the Samsung's warranty.

The T9300 will work with the PM45 chipset, but BIOS support will be necessary as well.

The P7350 will not work on the Santa Rosa platform.

The T9300's FSB will remain at 800MHz, and the notebook will run at a reduced FSB of 800MHz, and the memory frequency will also be affected accordingly.

The P7350 is not compatible with the GM/PM965, it has been tested before, and it didn't work out for anyone.

 

I was wondering here then what categories the AMD RM-70 & RM-72 (both Turion X2 Dual Core) would both fall under?? From what little I've read, I would lean towards 'Budget', but would either of them be well rounded enough to make 'Mainstream' ?? Alot of the cheaper HP laptops (under about $800-850USD) that you can find in stores are built around one of those two processors.

 

AMD usually makes budget CPUs since their mobile CPUs don't pack as much punch as Intel's C2D, but the Rm-70 and above would indeed qualify as mainstream since they provide enough juice for casual activities, but are still cheaper than their Intel equivalents.

 

I just bought a Dell 1420-142B from BestBuy (and are waiting for the delivery), of 600 bucks. This model use the CPU C2D T5850. From the post of Chaz, it's 800Mz in FSB, but in other sources, it's been shown only 677. So there is my wonder here: Is this one a 800, or only 677 in FSB?
And in compare with the recent T5800, which one is better in performance?
My assumption is that the T5800 seems to be better, as it's come with the new Mainboard.
In addition, the T5850 comes with only Intel X3100 intergrated, which is weak.
Any please help me on that.

Thanks

 

The T5850 has a FSB of 667MHz, whereas the T5800 is a re-badged T5870 with a FSB of 800MHz.

If you're into gaming, you should have gone for a laptop with a discrete GPU. If not then the X3100 will be fine.

 

awesome stuff, answered lots of my questions

 

Just wondering if anyone's had a chance to check out the newer AMD processors (the ZM's)--like maybe the ZM-82 and put it up against something like the P8400??

 

Hi, I'm not super literate so bear with me. I had my Acer Aspire 5100 upgraded to 4GB of RAM and it helped to speed things up. Now I'm reading here and it seems as though if I'd like to speed it up some more I'm going to have to install a better proccessor. The proccessor I have now is a AMD Turion 64x2 TL-50 (1.6 GHz,2x256kb L2 cache.) What I'd like to know is am I already obsolete? and what can I put in to improve speed and performance? Other than buying a new computer would it be worth my while upgrading my CPU or am I throwing good money after bad? This little laptop has been pretty good to me, so if I can I'd like to build it a little better if you have some suggestions. Thanks

 

So I just got a Sony SR290 with a T5800 cpu, would I be able to upgrade it to say a P8600 or better down the road when they get cheaper? Thanks for the info.

 

If your notebook has the GM/PM45 chipset and the BIOS supports the CPU, then yes - you can upgrade to a P8600 later.

 

It appears there are a slew of rebadged processors showing up lately. Here are a few that are available now that can be added to the list:

Turion RM-72 - 2.1GHz, 1Mb, 3600 MHz, S1
Turion RM-74 - 2.2GHz, 1Mb, 3600 MHz, S1
Athlon QL-62 - 2.0GHz, 1Mb, 3600 MHz, S1
Sempron SI-42 -2.1GHz, 512Kb, 3600 MHz, S1
Pentium T3400 - 2.16GHz, 1Mb, 667MHz, P
Pentium T4200 - 2.0GHz, 1Mb, 800MHz, P
Core 2 Duo T6400 - 2.0GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz, P
Core 2 Duo T6600 - 2.2GHz, 2Mb, 800MHz, P
Core 2 Duo P7450 - 2.13GHz, 3Mb, 1066MHz, P
Core 2 Duo P8700 - 2.53GHz, 3Mb, 1066MHz, P

There are more that are currently not in the list, but it is a start anyway.

Perhaps you should begin purging the cpus that are no longer available in new units? It might make things easier for you to update.

 

I wonder if anyone knows of any discernible differences between the T6400 and the P7350/7450?? I'm familiar a lil bit with the last two, but since the 6400 is one of the newer 'refreshed' processors, I don't know what to equate it too and am thus at a little bit of a loss.

 

The core is the same (Penryn), but the specs are close to the P7350....P7450 is clocked higher. But the TDP of the T6400 will be 35W.

 

can anyone tell me what the AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core QL62 is like? and how does it compare with the intel t5800 core 2 duo

 

It's the old K8 architecture from 2003. AMD hasn't done a particularly good job on mobile chips for quite some time.

 

Does anyone know why my processor wont overclock with IDA ? I set it on with rmclock but clocks wont go past 2ghz in any situation.. plus the red "circle" logo of rmclock does not fill up fully.
I don't have any options about IDA in bios. T7250 and asus G1Sn.

Another thing, noticed in super pi (mod 1.5 and normal) that the cpu load is around ~60% ? (in the 1.5, which should support dual cpu's its 100% for other and ~8% for other).

 

IDA(Intel Dynamic Acceleration) works in principle the same way as Turbo Mode in Core i7 CPUs. It clocks up the CPU only when single thread application is running.

In reality however, Windows keep bouncing the thread between two cores and the CPU never truly reaches "single core" state. The only way to make it work guaranteed is by setting a thread affinity on the program.

That's why Intel went with a much more tightly integrated hardware solution with Core i7 hoping that CPU would have more control over the OS.

 

Great stuff and a fun read. The newest Core 2 Duo is the T9900 3.06GHz, 6MB L2, 1067MHz (same as Core 2 Extreme X9100 but not as hot)

The T9800 is the same as above but running at 2.8GHz.

OX9300, the craziest at the moment: Core 2 Quad Extreme, 12MB L2(!), 1067 DDR3-FSB

Take care

 

You should have random CPU facts, like what the hell is PPGA478? and Why is my Socket M not compatible with 478 even though it has 478 pins?