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    The new SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News and Advice)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Les, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    There's a service manual detailing how to remove the optical drive if that's what you're looking for... then you just need to get that little micro SATA to SATA adapter and you're set.
     
    Commander Wolf, Mar 25, 2009
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    TidalWaveOne Notebook Evangelist

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    Vertex 120GB is $337.58 after rebate on Amazon.com.
     
    TidalWaveOne, Mar 26, 2009
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    poppap Notebook Guru

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  4. Cape Consultant

    Cape Consultant SSD User

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    Let's get that new Sammy and the Summit into the mix toot sweet! OK, I know they are a rebrand, but still, prices may be different. Let's hope not like Kingston's are different. Kingston's are HIGHER than Intel. I'll never figure THAT one out :)

    Right now, I'll take an Intel 160 for the current price of the 80, or a 128 Samsung/Summit for under $300. Those are my limits and I am sticking with them. I am beginning to suspect that R and D has been paid for and the prices are simply artificially high for reasons of pure profit. Which is OK, when I am doing it, but not when it is being done TO me :)
     
    Cape Consultant, Mar 26, 2009
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  5. laserbullet

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    laserbullet, Mar 26, 2009
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  6. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    ... because I totally want a super fast OCZ Core V2 to go with my shiny new i7 920...
     
    Commander Wolf, Mar 26, 2009
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  7. laserbullet

    laserbullet Notebook Evangelist

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    One of them is a $100 discount if you buy a 256GB titan, though. If I were putting together a desktop, that'd be tempting.
     
    laserbullet, Mar 26, 2009
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  8. IntelUser

    IntelUser Notebook Deity

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    I would rather take the Corsair if I wanted the $100 rebate. :).
     
    IntelUser, Mar 26, 2009
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  9. prpatel

    prpatel Notebook Enthusiast

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    prpatel, Mar 26, 2009
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  10. poppap

    poppap Notebook Guru

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    MacBook Pro 15" Late-2008 Unibody

    I got the MCE OptiBay but it's a little pricey..
    http://store.mcetech.com/Merchant2/...B&Category_Code=STORHDOPTIBAY&Product_Count=0
    There are cheaper alternative but may need some modification to fit the SuperDrive space..
    http://newmodeus.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_27&products_id=188

    Yes, I'm running Mac OS AppleRAID Striped Set (RAID0)
     

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  11. poppap

    poppap Notebook Guru

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  12. ofelas

    ofelas Notebook Evangelist

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    Dell released firmware update for the 2.5" Samsung SSD - R214180
    http://support.dell.com/support/dow...eid=R214180&formatcnt=2&libid=0&fileid=303196
    Dell released firmware update for the 1.8" Samsung SSD - R214182
    http://support.dell.com/support/dow...eid=R214182&formatcnt=2&libid=0&fileid=303202

    Feature log for both downloads - "The FW upgrade reduces potential issues due to power mode transitions and improves internal error handling.
    This FW will decrease the possibility of the Drive not being detected and System Hanging"
     
    ofelas, Mar 26, 2009
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  13. TidalWaveOne

    TidalWaveOne Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmmm... don't know what drive it is for though. Does anyone know if there is any firmware update that should be applied to the Samsung 64GB SLC drive that I bought from Geeks? I think I searched for it once but couldn't find anything.
     
    TidalWaveOne, Mar 26, 2009
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  14. ofelas

    ofelas Notebook Evangelist

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    1. Serial ATA: Samsung MCBQE32G5MPP 2.5 S2 RBX SSD, MCC0E64G5MPP 2.5 S2 RBX SSD, Firmware

    2. Serial ATA: Samsung MCBQE32G8MPP 1.8 uS2 RBX SSD, MCCOE64G8MPP 1.8 uS2 RBX SSD, Firmware
     
    ofelas, Mar 26, 2009
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  15. TidalWaveOne

    TidalWaveOne Notebook Evangelist

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    So that seems to be the 64GB SLC Samsung from Geeks. My system reports a model number of MCCOE64G5MPP-0VA on my 64GB SLC Samsung. Hmmm... should I try upgrading?
     
    TidalWaveOne, Mar 26, 2009
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  16. ofelas

    ofelas Notebook Evangelist

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    I would imagine various MCCOE64G5MPP drives have different -extensions on them to denote F/W, revisions, and possibly date codes.

    Not knowing whether the Dell supplied drives are the -0VA variant or not, I couldn't point you in the right direction.
    F/W revisions won't apply themselves to the targeted hardware if they're not compatible with them though, so I'd *imagine* you'd be safe in trying.
     
    ofelas, Mar 26, 2009
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  17. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Do any of the Samsung websites have their own support site w/ firmware updates?
     
    sgogeta4, Mar 26, 2009
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  18. TidalWaveOne

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    Thanks. I imagine I'd be OK in trying too... but I am not sure it is worth the risk. I really like these drives and don't want to mess up my main system so I think I'll pass unless I can get better info from somewhere.
     
    TidalWaveOne, Mar 26, 2009
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  19. TidalWaveOne

    TidalWaveOne Notebook Evangelist

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    Might want to consider the 120GB Vertex. It is down to $295 after rebate on ecost.com... so getting close to your limits!

    Of course the Vertex has not been "proven" yet, like the Intel and Samsungs and it's a little smaller than 128GB.
     
    TidalWaveOne, Mar 26, 2009
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  20. heavyharmonies

    heavyharmonies Notebook Evangelist

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    Sure... You'll go from stutter to stutter that much faster! :D
     
    heavyharmonies, Mar 26, 2009
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  21. Cape Consultant

    Cape Consultant SSD User

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    Smaller I can handle, it is the not "proven" that gives me the willies.
     
    Cape Consultant, Mar 26, 2009
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  22. davepermen

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    strobo-stutter. bad for epileptikers..
     
    davepermen, Mar 26, 2009
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  23. darQ96

    darQ96 Notebook Consultant

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    thanx for the info mate !!!
    just updated my drive and all went ok
    thanx again
    reputation up ;)
     
    darQ96, Mar 26, 2009
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  24. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    darQ96, have you noticed anything different? Did you have any issues before?
     
    sgogeta4, Mar 26, 2009
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  25. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    I just ordered the cosair 128gb from newegg for $317. I don't need the fastest and I really need the extra space over the intel. Also, it has very low power consumption. I didn't want to take any risks with the ocz.
     
    Darth Bane, Mar 26, 2009
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  26. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    Yeah, I'd like to know too. If there isn't any sort of improvement, I'm probably not going to bother flashing mine. Did you do a set of before and after benchmarks?

    Solid choice. I've had the 64GB variant for a few weeks now and it's been great.

    EDIT: Here's something interesting; another PCIE SSD...

    http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/26/photofast-intros-256gb-to-1tb-g-monster-pcie-ssd/
     
    Commander Wolf, Mar 26, 2009
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  27. darQ96

    darQ96 Notebook Consultant

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    well, benches look same, except maybe the random access times went down by 0.1 ms, but maybe, it's not same every time, think it was around 0.3~0.4 ms, now is more like 0.2~0.3 ms...
    R/W speeds look same to me, and I think processor time went down by few %

    main difference is that diagnostics don't show reallocated sector count error no more, so, I think s.m.a.r.t. feature is updated...

    so, no big performance boost :(
     
    darQ96, Mar 26, 2009
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  28. ofelas

    ofelas Notebook Evangelist

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    Thx.
    Now send me some Loza & we'll call it even :D
     
    ofelas, Mar 26, 2009
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  29. TidalWaveOne

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    If anyone updates the recent $200 2.5" Samsung 64GB SLC drive from geeks.com then please let me know how it went!
     
    TidalWaveOne, Mar 26, 2009
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  30. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    That was the one DarQ96 just updated?
     
    Commander Wolf, Mar 26, 2009
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  31. ofelas

    ofelas Notebook Evangelist

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    TW1 - you should be that brave soul :D
     
    ofelas, Mar 26, 2009
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  32. TidalWaveOne

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    Sorry, not brave enough. :D

    I need my work computer and don't want to go back to my VelociRaptor. SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW ;)
     
    TidalWaveOne, Mar 26, 2009
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  33. darQ96

    darQ96 Notebook Consultant

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    TW1, I'm pretty sure that we have the same drives ;)
     
    darQ96, Mar 26, 2009
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  34. ashura

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    There's a 64GB Corsair MLC SSD?
     
    ashura, Mar 26, 2009
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  35. TidalWaveOne

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    You have the Samsung MCCOE64G5MPP-0VA form Geeks.com that sold for about $200 a few weeks ago and the firmware upgrade worked fine for you? If so, then I may "risk" it.
     
    TidalWaveOne, Mar 26, 2009
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  36. mullenbooger

    mullenbooger Former New York Giant

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    No just samsung, but they're close enough
     
    mullenbooger, Mar 26, 2009
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  37. Commander Wolf

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    Yeah, it's in the same Samsung first-gen MLC series, just not a re-brand. It's MMCRE64G5MPP. The performance is basically on par with the equivalent SLC (and identical to that of the 128GB MLC)/
     
    Commander Wolf, Mar 26, 2009
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  38. sgogeta4

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    Weren't those 90/70 MB/s R/W (MLC), while SLC is 100/80 MB/s? Not that there is a real difference though, just curious.
     
    sgogeta4, Mar 27, 2009
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  39. stylinexpat

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    Very cheap now :)
     
    stylinexpat, Mar 27, 2009
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    About 2 weeks now in my new Macbook Pro and no problems. Silent and extremely fast. EVerything you click on just opens in a snap. No loading or anything, applications just open :D
     
    stylinexpat, Mar 27, 2009
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  41. jgo

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    What firmware version are you running? Did you have to flash the drive?
     
    jgo, Mar 27, 2009
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  42. Jlbrightbill

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    I'm happy so far:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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  43. Commander Wolf

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    Somehow it's adding processing power to your computer as well :eek:
     
    Commander Wolf, Mar 27, 2009
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    I hate such graphs. Mine are a straight line. I always distrust some funky up-down-graphs somehow :)
     
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    Interesting, my X25-M and Corsair 128 both had straight lines (even counting the 128's big jump in the middle of the HDTune run, after the jump the line remained steady) whereas the JMicron based SSDs like the Core V2, Solid and Titan all had the up-down-graphs... I assumed the Vertex would be similar to the former but I guess not. What sort of patterns are the new Samsung 64gb SLC owners seeing?
     
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  46. davepermen

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    slc normally always is straight line. haven't seen any different one yet.

    some older ssd i once used (the stuttering jmicron thing) has up-downs from 20mb to 50mb. that thing was terrible in todays standards :)
     
    davepermen, Mar 27, 2009
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  47. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    I've got a straight line on my Samsung 64GB SLC and my Samsung 64GB MLC... and my poky Transcend 4GB CF. What causes that big jump in some otherwise straight HDTune graphs? That's always kind of baffled me.
     
    Commander Wolf, Mar 27, 2009
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  48. monakh

    monakh Votum Separatum

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    I have no clue but it really annoys me. Not only do I have this problem with HDTune but also CrystalMark etc. The numbers vary wildly. I am going to hazard a guess that it's all the stuff running in the background.
     
    monakh, Mar 27, 2009
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  49. davepermen

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    looks like your samsung has some stutterings :)
     
    davepermen, Mar 27, 2009
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  50. Persnickety

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    No matter how many times you ask that question, I don't know the answer to it ... ;)
     
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