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    The updated GTX 1070 MXM model thread (2020)

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by @tomX, Oct 14, 2020.

  1. stumbler

    stumbler Notebook Consultant

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    There ya go!. Im not talking about my machine exclusively. Im talking about the different Versions of the MSI GTX 1070. Which of them will work. As for yourself have you done an upgrade with this particular card or are you just another thread hopper who thinks he might know something ?
     
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    While I don't really feel the need to answer that as that would only enable your debate fallacy, I will anyways.

    I have used the msi 1070 in upgrading the alienware 17 Ranger from its own history of gpu's. 780m, 860m, m6100 and lastly the msi 1070. I then took that card and had it installed into the p750zm but the motherboard died after installing the 5775c. The card was traded with a few other components for the msi 1080 which is now in use today.

    You are not talking about your laptop but in the same post ask which one will work?

    Make a thread and make your case, in that, you can ask for help with potential gray areas.
     
  3. stumbler

    stumbler Notebook Consultant

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    OK! One more try. Does anyone know the different versions of the MSI 1070 ? You said you used it but what Version? .0B 1.0 1.2 1BE1 or 1BA1.
    Saying "I used the MSI GTX 1070" is like saying "I brought Flowers" Tulips or Dandelions?
    Keep in mind that the Manufacturers and Re sellers are the "Gamers" and you are "The Game".
     
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    Make a thread, ping relevant members and perhaps you'll have what you need there.
     
  5. stumbler

    stumbler Notebook Consultant

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    4Q2 NBR= No Brains Required
     
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    Evidently not, Good Luck!~~
     
  7. mirage_bg

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    Let me answer your question. There is absolutely no difference if you have .0B, 1.0 or 1.2 ver. of the card. What matters is whether the gpu is g-sync (1BE1) or not (1BA1).
    In my case (HP 8770W) they both work.
    I am pretty sure Error 43 indicates faulty GPU or faulty vBios. In my case error 43 appears if 1BA1 is flashed over 1BE1 card. The other problem is if the card comes from Vortex machine, then you are restricted to use it with drivers up to 37x.xx only (hardware mod to bypass this is possible). I would try with different vbioses first...
     
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  8. stumbler

    stumbler Notebook Consultant

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    There ya go! Thanks so much for the straight forward answer.Seller said tested working " ONE VR GT60 GT70 GT80 ONLY "??? Did vbios dump and same as GT72VR 2016 Model. 86.04.31.00.0D_GSync. Would that eliminate it as a Vortex? When it was in D manager as GTX 1070 I was using inf mod Original driver.Tried couple different flashes but cant even get a boot on Dedicated Graphics now but that was using post 37x.xx driver . Me thinks its the ol "ya pays yer money and ya takes yer chances" Seller said this card was returned by a buyer as not working but tested fine in their machines.Too many posters on the Net saying "Plug and Play" for GT72 6xx. with .inf mod. Again,Thanks for your reply.

    Oh yeah! Did you ever get that message: "device was stopped because it reported it had a problem". Correction on that initial driver I used. 368.71
     
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  9. mirage_bg

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    Can you give me your TeamViewer ID and pass on PM, I will try to help you.
     
  10. stumbler

    stumbler Notebook Consultant

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    Ahhh!
     
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  11. A51davedy

    A51davedy Newbie

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    Hi this looks like a place to get good answers. [​IMG]
    [​IMG] https://www.amazon.com/Express-Mxm3...DKZKNMB/ref=pd_lpo_3?pd_rd_i=B09DKZKNMB&psc=1 This link is to where I found the set up.
    The screen shot shows a reference set up I would like to use to test MXM-B cards.
    I know just enough to be very dangerous. The test will be a quick functionality check.
    Cooling is only a fan in a 65 degree room. I will be testing (2) GTX 1070 8Gb and a GTX 980 8Gb.

    My question is what the lower component in the screen shot is and what is its function?
    The boxed items are what I plan to use.

    If this set up works I might add cooling and use the GTX 980 in the desk top.

    What is the easiest way to find what lap tops have MXM B slots?
    Next step if cards check out is to find a large screen lap top to use a GTX 1070 in.

    My first computer was a Vic-20 still have it in the original box.
     
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  12. Tenoroon

    Tenoroon Notebook Deity

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    Those PCIE to MXM adapters are all fun and games until you realize that the PCIE slot can only provide around 75 watts of power. If only those adapters had an external power connector on them :(

    Your best bet is to buy an older laptop equipped with an MXM slot and just use that for testing.
     
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    I thought PCIe Riser with the power supply plug would get me some more power, My card will take 200 watts max. For a light test maybe only 125 watt.
    From what I read a MXM B slot is only about 25% of getting it to work.

    Just did a deeper dive into my 2014 FangBook and it has a MXM B slot running a GTX 870M 6Gb, I did not think it would have one.
    The GTX 980M 8GB would not be much of a bump, but GTX 1070M 8Gb would make the fan run.

    Looks like case closed.
    Thanks
     
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    It would operate if all you want is a test, but it will likely power throttle. The problem with those adapters is really just a lack of user feedback.
     
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    Does anyone happen to have the name and/or documentation on the MOSFETs found on the MSI 1070?
     
  16. NeXt3R

    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    hi
    has there ever been 150W vbios for GTX1070M "model without power cable :rolleyes: "
    3.1B MSI "1BE1" ,,.,or 125W is maximum ???

    or what is latest bios "exist any on UEFI GOP 0x300 12" ???

    now using "dell/clevo vbios" GOP 0x3000A / 125W
    86.04.88.00.29 // and now this 86.04.8A.00.6D

    exists any better ? "what is latest"
    thanks ;)

    // bios written here - tested on GT75 7RE "1BE1 VER1.2"
    ID 1BE1 // SUB-10DE-0000 ,..,is bios before flash

    edit
     
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    no more than 125W
    and no ,,.86.04.8A.00.6D is absolute latest ?? :D

    8A -Build Date : 10/17/17 .,and 8A is more than 88 in vbios mark ??
    .,thanks ;)

    edit
    "cleanup"
     
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    No idea, never cared about build dates.
     
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    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    from longer testing "works good"
    i think better than ".29" lower power usage "probarly vram setup" or better optimization
    3.1B MSI "1BE1" alternative VBIOSes

    86.04.8A.00.6D - look best for now
    "" .6D-125W / .29-125W / .3A-oem 115W / .8A-115W locked 0.893V! ""
    warning MY BACKUP - GT75 7RE "1.2ver GPU" - only this tested !!!


    ss.gif
    via afterburner "0.893V new curve" + 205offset - 1850core / 2000 mem
    16000points - fire strike"OC above is conservative - long time tested" ,..,not maximum :d

    god luck
     

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    Found the MOSFET datasheet of the MSI 1070's FET's, they seem to have a max operating temperature of 150C, which is quite hot. However, the graphs seem to show that 125C is most likely the safest "max" temperature these FET's should run at. This should be able to prove why people with inadequate VRM cooling had this card die on them, and having 10 of them crammed right next to each other probably isn't very good thermally either.

    CSD87350Q5D Synchronous Buck NexFET
     
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    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/69638631
    no need this setup -1850mhz / 2000 stock memory / 0.893V
    Graphics Score 19 192 "conservative OC" not my max ,..,preferred numbers/stability


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    +250-275offset is max 0.912-0.925V / +500mem look stable --around 1950core/2250mem
    "on my gpu - msi kombustor + gaming tests ,,,testing around new TDP"
    ,.,and good OC profile for cpu "it should not be a problem to get even 20k points"
    good luck
     
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  24. mirage_bg

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    Your CPU is much better than mine. You gain 200-300 pts mainly because of this.
     
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    its true
    .,,everything else also works ? ,.,.I tested all on my GT75 "here works all" and this .6D look little better than older .29
    I also found some "vbios dated 2018 - 2019 ""1BE1"" " but all is only 115W :(
     
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