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    USB Stick and large files?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by canada16, Nov 3, 2009.

  1. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey

    Not sure if in the right place. but here it goes.

    I got a 16gb usb flash drive from fleabay and it wont transfer my large 8gb files, it says its too big, but windows 7 is seeing 15.6gb on the flash drive.

    Is there anyway of getting these files on the stick.

    Right now its in fat32, but if changing to ntfs.. would that help?

    Thanks so much
     
  2. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    FAT32, being 32-bit, allows a maximum of 4GB file sizes.
     
  3. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    and also, NTFS allows for files larger than 4GB.
     
  4. Angelic

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    Just make sure a file you put on the drive is slightly less than 4 GB.

    The maximum possible size for a file on a FAT32 volume is 4 GB minus 1 byte (2<sup>32</sup>−1 bytes).

    But yea, NTFS would fix this.
     
  5. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    What about putting it to NTFS?

    Will this allow 8gb files?

    If not, whats the point of buying a big stick and only allowing small files?
     
  6. Angelic

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    Maximum file size:16 EiB minus 1 KiB. That's exobyte. Plenty. ;)

    I think you're fine. :p Just format to NTFS.
     
  7. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    If you got Windows, just right click on the usb drive from "My Computer" screen and select format.

    Then choose either NTFS or the new ExFat file system.
    Both will allow bigger files than 4gb.
    Just remember to take backup on whatevers on the usb drive as formatting it will delete every file on it.

    And if you got Windows XP, you just need to download the update so that you get read and write support for ExFat, if you choose to use that.
     
  8. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Unless I got done by one of these chinese scammers you sell fake usb sticks.

    As he is no longer selling, asked ebay why and they advised fraud, and also looked on google and he had been done for selling fake usb sticks.

    I right click and its showing 16gb, so cant see how someone could fake this?

    Thanks for the help
     
  9. Angelic

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    Is it not letting you format the drive? I have purchased a fake flash drive before. Format the drive, and then try to fill up all 16 GB's. If it won't let you, someone faked the capacity, which is certainly possible.

    Did you get the drive for less than you should have? He has sold other fake ones, so your's is almost sure to be a fake.
     
  10. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    It was 13.00 so about right.

    It let me fill a dvd 700mb file, but I am formating now with hp format tool and it seems to be going ok.

    Its almost finished, so will let you know in about 10 min,

    Nice 1
     
  11. BrandonSi

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    You didn't get scammed. Use NTFS, like everyone is telling you.
     
  12. KonstantinDK

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    Whats a difference between having USB formatted as FAT 32 and NTFS? Was always wondering about it...
     
  13. Angelic

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    Aside from maximum volume and file size, there isn't much else you need to know about. Just use NTFS. :)

    It's actually very possible, it's quite common. But we shall see.

    Edit: FAT and NTFS are file allocation methods. NTFS is also faster and more efficient in how it does this, so even more reason to use NTFS. Any other questions let me know.
     
  14. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes I am, its formating now, like I said.

    But it is possible as this guy is on google for fake usb's and ebay cancelled his account.
     
  15. BrandonSi

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    In the future, you can choose quick format, and it should take about 30 seconds.
     
  16. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeh lol, seen that after it was half way.

    Almost done last bar showing
     
  17. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    It failed. NTFS :mad:
     
  18. BrandonSi

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    Would you care to elaborate.
     
  19. Angelic

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    What happened? Did you get an error message?

    Try quick format as well, then report back.
     
  20. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    It keeps saying failed... Thats it.

    It wont format to NTFS, used windows and a thirdparty program and both failed.
     
  21. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Used quick format as well and error message just saying windows was unable to complete the format
     
  22. BrandonSi

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    Go to a command prompt and do the following..

    CONVERT X: my_volume /FS:NTFS /X

    where X: is the drive letter of your USB drive, and my_volume is the volume name of your USB drive. If you do not know the voume name, type 'vol' at the command prompt and hit enter.
     
  23. Angelic

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    If both the HP format tool (which happens to be freakin amazing), AND the windows format tool failed...well you're screwed.

    This means two things.

    Your drive is probably 4 GB or less, and yes, it's a fake.

    The less likely theory is that the drive just happens to be bad. Which I doubt.
     
  24. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Typed this and keeps saying error or volume not correct:

    This is exact:

    CONVERT N: my_volume /FS:NTFS/N

    Or it says syntax error.

    Is there spaces and everything
     
  25. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

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    Is your volume called 'my_volume'? What is this /N? I know you're frustrated but re-read my post slowly and try again. I'm here all day (well at least until you go to sleep) so no need to rush. :)
     
  26. Angelic

    Angelic Kickin' back :3

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    And if he gets distracted with cookies, I'm here! :) ;) Brandon's got a good idea, take your time. Though it just manually does the same thing as the quick format, right?
     
  27. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    So type this:

    CONVERT N: N /FS:NTFS/N ?

    My volume drive is N :Drive
     
  28. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

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    Nope..

    Go to a command prompt. Type VOL and hit enter. It will say something like.. Volume in drive N is xxxx, or Volume in drive N has no lablel.. That is your volume name, so let's say you get Volume in drive N is brandon_n_drive.

    You would then type the following..

    CONVERT N: brandon_n_drive /FS:NTFS /X
     
  29. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

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    Kind of.. Convert will leave the files in place, as opposed to a format.
     
  30. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey

    I have typed VOL and it says Volume in drive c has no label

    Then volume serial number is : 5053-f4b5

    I tried typing in Vol N but its not seeing it.

    I know I am being thick, but not that experianced on command prompt

    Thanks
     
  31. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

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    Since you have no label, just type this, exactly.

    CONVERT N: /FS:NTFS /X
     
  32. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Are those spaces as well?
     
  33. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok something is happening, and it says there is like 16383968kb;s

    And converting
     
  34. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok it said this:

    Data error (cyclic redundancy check)
     
  35. BrandonSi

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    Good job! Fingers crossed!! :)
     
  36. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

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    Ah, ok.. I've got some more for you to try, don't worry.

    Step 1 (again from a command prompt).

    CHKDSK /F N: [hit enter]

    Step 2 (same command prompt)

    FORMAT N: [hit enter]

    Step 3 (same command prompt)

    CONVERT N: /FS:NTFS

    They may take a while for each step to complete. Obviously do not type [hit enter], that's just for you to know you should physically hit the enter button.
     
  37. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Nice 1 mate

    Doing the first step now and it says:

    CHKDSK ABORTED, CANNOT RECOVER MASTER FILE TABLE,

    Doing second now

    UPDATE: 55% takes forever eh!
     
  38. BrandonSi

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    No problem, let me know what happens.
     
  39. Angelic

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    Isn't command prompt fun? :p (Brandon, I'll Rep you back when I can ;))
     
  40. BrandonSi

    BrandonSi Notebook Savant

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    I love the command prompt. Of course, that was all we had before Windows, so it was a necessity back then.

    Yes, I'm kind of old. :)
     
  41. canada16

    canada16 Notebook Evangelist

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    Loving W7 though.

    Thank god MS finally got of their backs eh!
     
  42. BrandonSi

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    Yep! Just waiting for the new laptop to arrive, and I'll try it out.

    Did your USB drive work finally?
     
  43. canada16

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    OK its done.

    its says 32 characters, enter for none?

    Press enter when ready

    Oh it says enter new drive for n: and press enter
     
  44. BrandonSi

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    just hit enter to take the defaults.
     
  45. canada16

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    Creating file structure

    Format failed
     
  46. BrandonSi

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    Which step was that on?
     
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    2.

    Ill try the 3rd

    3rd said:

    CONVERT is not available for RAW drives?
     
  48. BrandonSi

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    3rd probably is going to fail as well..

    Let's make sure write caching is turned off on this disk. It should be under device manager, choose the drive, right click, choose properties. Then look under the policies tab, and make sure optimize for quick removal (or whatever options says it will disable write caching) is chosen.

    I'm not running windows 7, so that may not be the exact steps, you'll have to look around a bit.

    Let me know when you've disabled write caching.
     
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    Quick removal was already ticked, it disables it.
     
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    OK!

    Next steps..

    Find the My Computer icon.
    Right click on My Computer, and choose 'Manage'.

    Look for 'Disk Management', and then click once on it. This should bring up the disk management window.
    You should see your N: drive listed. Right click on it, and choose 'Delete Partition'. It'll say "Are you sure, blah blah blah", just say yes and delete it.

    Now you need to recreate the parition. Find where your N: drive was, might say Drive 1 or Drive 2, etc, and it should show some free space. Right click on that and choose Create New Parition (something like that, I don't have it on my PC). Just follow along, and if it asks you for FAT/FAT32/NTFS choose NTFS. It should recreate the parition and format it for you.
     
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