eMachines eMD620-5777 upgrades

what you guys think of this ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104026&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory+(Notebook+Memory)-_-Kingston+HyperX-_-20104026
good price ?? will it be fine in the laptop ?? i need them cause mine came with 3 gigs but diferent rams soo im not using them in dual channel

 

Hiya Jey, they will be fine.
Joe.

 

Also had a rethink on the opening in the right side for air inlet.
reason as follows.
The fan creates a negative pressure inside the whole laptop, opening an extra vent would only add to the problem of heat from other areas whilst aiding to cooling the processor, which, is fine in reality.
Having run the system for a few days, its really ok as it is.
Personally, if you do the same upgrade as I have, to the 5050e and dual channel pc800 ram, then just use artic silver5 on the cpu to heatsink, and either reuse or replace the old pad on the (presumed) video chip, the other one that connects to the heatsink.

You MUST use a pad on the other chip, otherwise the spacings will be incorrect. The pad is used to fill the natural gap that is left between heatsink and chip. I put a good wad of AS5 on the new cpu after cleaning the heatsink with alcohol.
it is running superbly.
The dual channel pc800 ram is superb, and seems to offer the fastest overall speed and access.
The 620 is now a beast of a machine, it will even run flight sim X no worries.
HD video is a breeze, - remember to dl the latest ati catalyst AND the avivo codecs. also look at the latest divx player (free) as opposed to vlc .99 which as said only seems to use one core.
I had some small concerns re the external psu for the laptop, yes, it gets warm, but it did before, hardly noticable, yes, the main fan in the 620 may run at a slightly higher speed, but again, no worries, it never goes above limits, it runs hotter, admitted, but the cooling is sufficient to maintain it under any load.
A HELL of a bargain laptop. buy it, do it.. less than 400 dollars, euros etc, and you have a powerhouse for most everyday usages. !.
Joe

 

Ok, finally tamed this beast. !

I changed the dual channel memory BACK to the 667 instead of the 800.
Result.. ? MUCH cooler running and far lower fan use. at the loss of a slight amount of performance made up for by the 5050e, the extra 50Mhz that the 800 ram ran at were knocking up the temps.. all possible and the machine can cope, but the fan becomes a tad tiresome to listen to going almost full blast within minutes.
Now, cpu core temps are down by almost 20 degreesC - Seriously ! .. and ACPI TZ tmeps are down by almost 15 degC.. so the extra ram speed was causing the chipset to generate a much greater amount of heat.
Running things like DivX compression etc, I cant tell the difference. or in any game like cod2, no difference in framrates, just heat generated.

My recommendation now for a well balanced and quiet, cool system is the 5050e and dual channel PC667 ram, go to dual channel PC800 and you get 50Mhz more ram performance at the expense of high fan noise and possibly 20 degC more heat. !.. the noise level and temps are now almost on a par with the stock unit. the performance is unbleiveably quick. a powerhouse.

If you look under the fan unit, you will see a vent intake for the fan, this is also THE most important are to keep clear. If you use the unit on your lap (well, it IS a laptop lol) or in bed (As I do to watch movies), then make sure this are is kept clear.
Note again, I did not add the extra pads to pass the heat to the underside screen, well - I DID, but then removed them. as they made matter worse, not better.
Just artic silver 5 on the cpu heatsink and a very good quality thermal pad on the other chip (the original would be fine if you are careful !)

Also note, it may take a few hours of use for the temps to stabalise, this is due to the conformation phase of the heat sink transfer paste, and the pad, it needs to get hot to conform and settle. you may notice slightly elevated temps for the first few hours, these should settle after a day.

Joe.

 

Hi everyone
I got an e-machines d620 and i put after reading reading this topic an amd althon 5050e in it and 4 gb of ram
but my cpu is getting too hot in games, i got some lag if the cpu reaches 70 degC
how can i make the cooling better? i have used arctic silver 5
and i have the terminal pad on the video chip replaced for cooling paste or is this wrong?

Glenn

 

I had this laptop for about 6 months and came across this thread and I've got the 5050e and PC2-6400 2x2GB OCZ ram and upgraded it. It was a breeze to install the new processor and RAM many thanks to "Ifarted2" for pictures on how to do it and was the reason I believed I could it. I've used geekbench test to compare before and after installing the new processor and the performance just doubled (result jumped from 1220 to 2520).

The 5050e generates lots of heat and the FAN was running very high all the time (FID/VID stays 13x/1.2v all the time). Then I've used RMclock to undervolt it and worked very well after having lots of blue screen deaths in finding the optimal settings. I've used orthos for CPU stress test for 40 minutes with these settings, so they should be good for typical usage.

These are optimal settings that I've settled with the following P-states.

2 settings of FID/VIDs (10x/1.0v) and (12x/1.125v)

I chose these 2 settings because my RAM runs @ 400 Mhz at this CPU multipliers.

 

I wanna upgrade too. Have been dealing too long with the stock processor.
Does the 4850e generate less heat than the 5050e or is it the same as both run on 45W?
What about the mobo max FSB? Couldn't find any info on that. Guess it doesn't matter as you guys got it working.

 

Upadate - been running the d620 everyday now for 5 months. no problems at all with heat etc, just fine.
There IS a problem though that wont go away - with the atheros wifi chipset, there is a driver or bios issue, wifi works fine.. but try running some programs like, for example, divx play, vlc etc with something that needs meaty performance like an MKV movie file.. if the wifi is OFF, then processor usage will max at 100 and jerky framerates, if it is ON, it works fine and processor usage drops to around 20 to 60 percent.
There have been no driver or bios upgrades released, so we are stuck with what is a relatively minor inconvenience. but if you are getting max cpu usage in any app, try turning the wifi ON, even if you are not using it.

As for the upgrade to 5050E, we have 2 machines on our liveaboard yacht, identical apart from the wifi, My wifes uses a broadcomm wifi chipset, mine an atheros. Both upgraded to 5050E and 2 gigs 6400 ram. both run superb, cool (its 30C here today in Portugal where our boat is currently moored)

A great mod, just dont use PC 800 Ram, and in reply to the guy a few posts back who DIDN'T use a thermal pad on the video chip, YOU MUST use a thermal pad, NOT just heat sink compound as there is a natural gap there, on the processor itself, artic silver alone is great, the other chip NEEDS a thermal pad. without it it will fry !.
Happy Emachining.
Joe

 

Hey ruddles,

there actually is a bios upgrade for the emd620.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5145217#post5145217

Maybe this helps to fix ur problem.

 

I'm a bit late to this thread. Does anyone know who has this chip 4850e\5050e in stock at a competitive price?

I actually have a eMD620 5133, which appears to be identical to the 5777, but came stock with 2 GB memory. If there are any other differences please let me know.

I was hoping these chips would be dirt cheap by now, but it actually appears they have pretty mush disappeared from circulation. Newegg has deactivated bot listings.

I did notice a few chips listed on ebay, but no real deals ($73 shipped for the 4850e). anyone know anywhere that has this chip in stock at a competitive price?

Thanks Jack

 

Same question here. Or is $70 a decent price for this processor?

 

I ended up getting mine at Fry's. $60 + Tax. About to swap it out now.

 

I installed the AMD 5050e using Arctic Silver 5 according to the instructions on their website. My temps are running very high. This actually seems to be pretty common in this thread. Some people seem to run cool and others seem unreasonably high.

Everest & Core Temp 64 temperatures are running 60+ C and hitting upwards of 74C when the CPU is under a load after 1 hour of use. Speedfan Temps are hitting 65-66 C after an hour of use.

CPU-ID text dump is showing a more moderate 40-44C for the chip and cores.

When the temps were so high, I decided to reseat heatsink by spreading a thin coat of Arctic Silver 5 on the chip but temps were still way high. I even tried the thermal pad on the chip\heatsink like fperez suggested but again the temps were disturbingly high. Right now the chip is mounted with a small amount of Acrtic Silver 5 as described on their website ( a spot of grease the size of 1 1\2 grains of uncooked rice). I even stuck a bunch of that thermal pad on the outside of the heatsink like fperez did but still no joy.

I noticed ifarted2 stated that he wound up going with the 5600x2 (65 Watt?) because it ran 15C cooler than the 4850e\5050e. ifarted2 I'd be curious what your respective temps were with the 5050e and the 5600X2.

I'm at a bit of a standstill because I am not inclined to run this machine with temps in the 70-74 C range. Any and all advice is welcome and appreciated.

Thanks Jack

Thanks for any and all advice

 

Awesome possum!!! I just got my d620 and was a little upset with the speed. I wasn't sure about the mobo taking more than 2 gig RAM so that great news to. Thanks for the guides and all the info.

 

On my d620-5777, I am noticing two strange things that I'd like a bit better understanding of before I go modding:

1) The demo unit at the store was dead silent. Mine is dead silent for about 40 sec. after power-up, then the fan comes on at low speed and stays on. I have read other reports of fans that are always on. I am wondering if the mechanism that regulates the fan has trigger temps that are all over the place or other goofiness. What's your fan behavior?

2) At idle, RMClock reports core temps that are ~23 degrees cooler than CPUID HW Monitor (e.g., 22 and 45 at idle). I am assuming that CPUID HW Monitor's numbers are closer to reality. But still, does anyone have any idea why there is such a discrepancy and whom to trust?

Cheers,
-M

 

After installing the 5050E I was worried about my temps so I didn't even turn it on for about a week. Then I turned it back on and let her run. Have played COD and done some browsing, light apps etc. Have left it on for hours. temps are still higher in Everest & Core Temp (55-65C), but CPUID is showing 40-45 C. I suspect those reporting 40ish C temps are using CPUID and not Everest and Core Temp. Anyway the notebook is rock solid stable, and really doesn't get much hotter to the touch than most notebooks I have owned. All is weel, and it is a very simple yet substantial upgrade. I say go for it!

Jack

 

Here's some info in case it happens to be useful to anyone.

Just to see what I might be getting myself into, I took off the heatsink this evening, replaced the thermal compound and put it back together (using the stock CPU). I've greased up lots of heatsinks for audio equipment, but this is the first time I tried it on a lappy so it was kinda fun.

It was pretty easy getting things apart. Getting the heatsink off the CPU required a bit more force than I expected, and the compound they used was this grey, dry, almost flaky stuff. I cleaned stuff up as best I could and even lapped the CPU a tiny bit. I had originally planned to lap the heatsink, but the construction of the thing makes it pretty much impossible. I applied Arctic Silver Ceramique (because it seems a bit easier to use than Arctic Silver 5) following their online directions and using 90% isopropyl as a cleaner.

Before and after temps are a bit interesting. I loaded Ubuntu 9.04 onto the lappy after my previous message (works great!) and am using the Sensors Applet to monitor temps along with "stress --cpu 8 -m 4" to, er, stress the system. The Sensors Applet reports two temps from acpi: TZS1 and TZS0 -- and four from libsensors: temp1, temp2, Core0 Temp, and Core0 Temp. Yes, the last two have the same name, but (huh?) they report slightly different temperatures. Also, TZS1, TZS0, temp1, and temp2 are always identical, so I am assuming that these are actually all reporting the same sensor.

Anyhoo, what I had after ~1 hr of stress with the stock unit was:

temp1: 50
temp2: 50
Core0 Temp: 33
Core0 Temp: 32

and after removing and replacing the heatsink:

temp1: 51
temp2: 51
Core0 Temp: 34
Core0 Temp: 32

So, it's now running about 1 degree hotter. If we are to believe Arctic Silver, these figures should improve a bit after a bunch of thermal cycling.

So, the good news is that doing a heatsink R/R doesn't mess up your cooling if you are reasonably careful. The eh news is that Arctic Silver Ceramique is not a wonder drug for cooling in this application.

Anyone have a cheap 4050e, 4450e, or 4850e they want to part with?

 

I found this thread about a week ago.. Since then I was able to find a used 4850e processor and upgraded to 4GB of 5300.. I've never opened a laptop up before and had it all done in about an hour.. Thanks to all you guys that have posted so much great info about this upgrade.. I can't believe the improvement these simple mods made!!

THANKS!!

 

Seems this is a decent little laptop to upgrade. More memory, a 2-core processor, and a 7200rpm hard drive should bring it up to its maximum potential. I don't need portability because when I go anywhere to use the laptop I always have it plugged in. So even if it cuts my battery life to an hour, I'm good with it. Will update here and in other related threads if I get the 4850e auctions I'm trying to win.

 

I just upgraded my dad's eMachines D620 with an extra gig of ram and the 5050e...it's now a perfectly usable laptop!! It was way too slow before, my dad would avoid using it altogether... Took me seriously 15min to install the new CPU and extra gig of memory...thanks fperez! BIOS version is 1.01 and the computer had no problems recognizing the 5050e. I'm running in the 60degC (CPUID) range when stressing the CPU. Btw, I was able to find the 5050e at cendirect.com and also the 4850e at honorcomp.com (both Canada based retailers).

 

It looks like we may be able to run an Athlon II X4 605e, Athlon II X4 600e or Athlon II X3 400e in the emD620-5777. Which all are 45w and have the same voltage as the 5050e

The UK emachines website as a bios update from 9/25/2009:

http://www.emachines.co.uk/em/custo...F=3624&rcond4l.attN2B2F2EEF=3912&CRC=99015199


Anyone tried this yet? It looks like the x4 605e is $170 processor.

 

I tried the Athlon II X2 235e (2.7Ghz - 45w) last December and this laptop refused to power on. After doing some research I concluded that the BIOS doesn't support Athlon II CPU. I've sold this laptop since.

 

Can you upgrade to 4gb ram ive only peformed one upgrade and thats was vista to 7 ultimate

 

Yes this laptop can use 4GB (2x2GB) or ram.

 

hello all, A little late to the party here, lol. I have 2 questions, I have a emd620-5777 and upgrades the ram to 2gig a few days after getting it. Now I want to upgrade the cpu. I'm bidding on a 5050e on ebay right now for it. My questions are which Artic Silver should I use for this and when applying the Artic Silver should I put a layer over the entire cpu or just a dot in the middle? Thanks for any help

 

so i won the 5050e a few min ago and ordered some artic silver 5 Will someone tell me if i cover the whole top of the cpu of i just cover a circle in the middle.

Thanks

 

elwood111,
this could be tricky. i saw some member in this thread said don't put to many of the thermal grease but some said probably cover the whole top.
i'm confused on this...

 

well I tore the pad on the gpu talked to a computer repair store and they said use paste on it. I did and temps are 45 to 71 useing Everest. Works great very happy with the upgrade. Thanks all. Also I covered the whole cpu with a thin layer of Artic Silver 5, same with the gpu. Thanks again everyone for the Info

 

Great work by you elwood111. congrates for your upgrade. hmmm, well this type of cpu never being produce by amd anymore though. it was so hard for me to buy one. i found one on ebay but afraid it is a copy brand 5050e. do you know any store or source for me to buy one? i need this cpu so much.

 

elwood111,
do you change your mobo before doing all upgrades? what is your mobo exactly?i'm curious about this.

 

i have an emd620-5777 the motherboard is the the stock one, just need to buy some Artic Silver 5 and the new cpu, Im running the 5050e. I got it off of ebay for 50usd.

 

hohohoho thanks a lot. so i'm getting the exact processor now. hope it will goes well with my laptop too. do the heat problem bother you though?

 

heat isn't any different on the leg than before, and when I'm using it i have it on the coffee table with a laptop fan under it. And I've left it on now for 72hrs. a few times, no problems

 

still running good, lots of use, and weather has been around 100 lately. I'm happy with it.

 

elwood, do you have any problem with the cpu speed and the core vid? my cpu speed is not on its actual speed. the cpu speed is 2.6 Ghz but it drops to 998 Mhz when under loads. can you explain to me why?

 

I dont know, i havent had an issue that I noticed with mine

 

Anyone interested, this post rocked. Still using eMD620. Changed O/S to Win7 and replaced hard drive to 7200 rpm. Major improvements. Never pulled heatsink off since i installed and temps are perfect. I still recommend the use of thermal pads on laptops. Just got done upgrading new acer laptop to quad core and again good quality thermal pad makes the difference.

 

can you upgrade the processor on this d605777, also how much can you upgrade the memory and hard drive with external components