8560w GPU upgrade - use empty DVD slot to fit MXM 3.0b (higher spec) video cards

Hello,

I have 8570W, 1920x1080 FHD WVA (Not a Dreamcolor IPS, just classic TN screen)

Is it possible to upgrade the laptop to Nvidia Quadro M2000M ? I can get one for about 190€, but i am worried after i saw this:

 

Yes, it will work right off the bat.

 

Guys, what’s the highest Nvidia Quadro card that can be installed on HP EliteBook 8570w?

 

Are you 100% sure?

 

@AlienHack So I checked out your youtube video, and eventually ended up on this forum. You put in your post that you used N16E-GR-A1, is there any other version that is an MXM-a that can be used. I can't seem to find any of that specific version you suggested online.

 

Anyone want to swap m5000m for a 1070?

 

I'm still not clear whether the 8560w is dream color display is edp or lvds.
Even if it's edp, there are no 3.0a pascal card available so the Maxwell m2000/gtx965 will be best possible gpu for the 8560/8570w correct?

 

Just purchased HP branded M2000M for my 8570w. Previous post says will work" right off the bat".?????
Does anyone have the required files etc for this swap so I can avoid the strain on my 71 year old head?
Thx
i7-3820QM 1920x1080 std. K2000M- Latest BIOS Legacy

 

And you don't look a day older :-D ahaa

 

0@0

Edit: Found all the answers at M$. http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answ...t-graphics-card-into-a-certified-windows-8-pc

 

hallo mate
i think you are right... even until 5 months ago there were several posts on ebay for that specific card... but now its only the mxma ones

https://www.ebay.com/p/NVIDIA-GeFor...-gr-4gb-Mxm3-0a-Half-Size-for-8570/2196534114

i dont know why... sadly maybe there was no requests for them and the sellers stoped making ebay auctions for them?

maybe try sending messages to sellers on this list that sell normal mxma 965m and ask them if they have the specific model N16E-GR-A1

https://www.ebay.com/p/NVIDIA-GeFor...-gr-4gb-Mxm3-0a-Half-Size-for-8570/2196534114

 

If your looking for gtx 965m half card. Eurocom.com has them.Just talking to Eurocom tech about HP branded and vbios M2000M in my 8570w and not getting it working. Got card from Alan Computech on ebay. These are for sale all over the net. Anyone make this combo work? Eurocom guy thinks it will only work with Dreamcolor??Hate to throw $350+ out the window.
Duck

 

Another brain dead know nothing,

 

Hi! I have a 8560w and the graphics card is dead(quadro 1000m. After installing driver it slows done and windows not booting anymore. Tried different drivers same result. I ordered a k1100m( from a zbook), installed it but it does nothing. The leds are blinking ( blue and orange), but the screen remains black, no blacklight, and i think its not booting. Any advice? What is the most recommended gpu replacement type for this laptop? Thanks for any advice.

 

Hello fellas!!!

I am actually doing an mxm-b upgrade on a 8570W. Default config- i7 3630QM, K1000m. Presently upgrading with a Quadro M5000M.
I plucked off the dvd pin off the board, I had to grind some regions for a proper fit of the card. I sort of extended the heatsink but didnt add extra radiators or pipes.
It worked like a charm from the start. No problems whatsoever apart from installation. I easily moddded the inf driver taking a youtube vid reference; then was able to install it. COnfirmed it from the HWinfo for model number, cores and VRAM.

I found out that the laptop was cool but the temps are little on the high ranges while gaming. I was always keeping an eye on the temps. thanks to afterburner and riva. It never crossed 90c on both. But strangely I observed that the laptop fan wasn't spinning at high speeds at all. Also it is going up down up down up down... almost every half a second no matter the load.

Current bios version F43.

What do you guys suggest. Please help. If it can control the speeds by itself like it used to for the older gpu, I am the happiest person on earth
! ! ! ! ! H E L P ! ! ! ! !
edit: the idle temps are around 45c on cpu n 43c pn gpu for usual browsing and streaming

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/hp-elitebook-8570w-mxm-b-gpu-upgrade.814197/

 

Congratulations on the mod and upgrade! Try HWiNFO for fan control.

 

thankyou triturbo. i figured it was the pin that was misbehaving, i just re-plugged it in and it was all smooth.

 

Dont forget to post pics ;-)

 

Bought Dell G4FNO K2100M from ebay. Loaded mod inf file with 11FC (K2100M) on 176B mobo on Win 10 set UEFI with CMS with driver signature enforcement.disabled.
Installed K2100M and started lappy hooked to external VGA. Both screens black. Pushed Fn+4 couple of times.External VGA lit up followed shortly by lappy screen.Win 10 searched for updated driver and installed signed driver,
Device manager hardware id shows: 11FC176B and 103C in string. Everything works like the upgrade was never made. Sure curious how win 10 found signed driver that never existed?????
Learn Fn+4 settings and arrow maneuvering on your stock rig BEFORE modding. Dont forget to press enter to save the setting. You will be using them with a BLACK screen.The correct combination will get you LIT.

 

Do it right for $20
http://www.overclock.net/forum/74-g...unbrick-flash-almost-any-card-amd-nvidia.html

 

Would be awesome if you could provide a walk through on how you did the upgrade, and point to the youtube video as well. Maybe a few pictures of the internal modification you did as well. I am 100% interested in doing this but I can't seem to piece all the info together.

 

there are 1030, & 1050/TI MXM-A cards as well a RX 560 MXM-A

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe we already discussed earlier in this thread, that 10th series Nvidia (i.e. Pascal) only support edp screens. So, not sure what you're suggesting ..

 

Some of these later model Elitebooks the ones that support Dreamcolor screens have eDP output my suggestion was for those with such setups

 

I have an elitebook 8560w with a quadro fx 2800m that is mxm 3.0b card. All work fine with temperature too because the highest is 69 degree celcius but i have two problems. The first is that the gpu doesn't reach the 600mhz on core clock. It's only above 340mhz. Memory and shaders too doesn't reach the maximum frequency. The second the brightness that i can't adjust. My specs are:
i7 2820qm
6 gb of ram ddr3
700go hdd
No dream color screen hd+
120w charger.
Please what is wrong ?

 

I have an elitebook 8560w with a quadro fx 2800m that is mxm 3.0b card. All work fine with temperature too because the highest is 69 degree celcius but i have two problems. The first is that the gpu doesn't reach the 600mhz on core clock. It's only above 340mhz. Memory and shaders too doesn't reach the maximum frequency. The second the brightness that i can't adjust. My specs are:
i7 2820qm
6 gb of ram ddr3
700go hdd
No dream color screen hd+
120w charger.
Please what is wrong ?

 

it might be the 120w charger holding you back

 

Thanks you. I will buy a new with 180w. It's sufficient or not?

 

it could be enough but if the price difference between that and a 200w PSU is minimal I would suggest that instead

 

As much as I wish I could, I wouldn't recommend doing that. I forgot to mention that on the 15 incher 8570w, there was a balck tiny square protrusion besides the card, it wasnt allowing the card to be positioned parallel to the motherboard plane, instead i had to bend the heatsink copper pipes by hand to match the slantness of the sitting m5000m (the memory unit of the m5000m interferes with the black protruding thing and it sits on top of that protrusion making the card sit in a slanting position). this approximate pipe bending to position the heatsink parallel to card wasnt upto the mark and it was not removing heat off the guard effectively. well its a 150w card without a second fan would be hard anyways. and i didnt wast to damage the card so i took it off and sold the 8570w to buy an 8770w. so problem solved. but i ve heard for the zbooks that protrusion wont be there. you can check it out. for now, i already sold the 8770w too and moved onto m6800 dell. its with an i7 4600m dual core and a quadro k3100m 768 cuda 4 gb ddr5. i still have the m5000m and will put it on after buying a quad core i7 or after i could bypass the stupid current and power throttling thats making the cpu sit

 

Hey. I forgot that my WIFI card no longer works since this graphics card is installed. She is not even recognized in the bios.

 

Hey guys. Please will this card work on my 8560w?hd 7870m

 

hello all! recently purchased an 8560w with i5 2540m/8GB/FirePro M5950 locally with the intention of upgrading the GPU, a decision partially informed thanks to the excellent research y'all have done in this thread. I have an MXM 3a FirePro M5100 ( this one, precisely) just arrived in the post and I'm going to give it a try once i've done some benchmarking with the stock GPU and am satisfied the system is running well. (Windows 8.1 x64 by the way)
I also have a FirePro M 6100( one of these) on the way as well as a 230W Delta AC adapter to try the mod for myself- I've been working on a custom heatsink solution for the expansion bay and I will be sure to post what I come up with!

 

Tried both the M5100 and M6100 and neither want to work. M5100 doesn't show anything on the LCD (even when I shine a light at it) and VGA monitor detects a signal but there's no image. M6100 lights the LCD backlight but no image and no signal from VGA.

Thoughts: I see that at least some of the panels in the Dell laptops these cards came out of (7510 & M6800) are eDP, is it possible one or both of these cards can't output LVDS? I forgot to check that before ordering

I'm going to figure out how to blindly install drivers, and if that doesn't work I'll need to decide whether to attempt a blind VBIOS flash or to return the cards and try something else.

There are so many BIOS versions out there for both cards, how to choose which to try?

 

so the plot thickens, perhaps: I enabled Remote Desktop on the 8560w and tested with the FirePro M5950 that the system would come up unattended, even with the internal keyboard and trackpad disconnected (to allow faster GPU swapping). Works fine. Try the M5100 and M6100 and nothing, RDP on my other laptop can't find the host. Put the M5950 back in, RDP works again. I also tried reconnecting the laptop keyboard and hitting F1 on boot in case it was halting on an error but no change- seems like Windows isn't coming up for some reason and likely the system isn't booting at all. I don't think this laptop likes these particular cards much.

 

Hi guys,

I've just upgraded from 8560w to Zbook 15 G2 QHD+ (3200 x 1800) and moved the GTX 965m to my new machine. However the laptop display would never light up. The laptop boots successfully, I can hear the Windows 10 loading sound, but screen is black. Putting bright light against it (like I did on the 8560w) does not show any signs of life. When I connect the laptop to a docking station, then the external monitor lights up successfully and I can login successfully, install the Nvidia modified drivers for this laptop and the GTX 965m is recognized successfully. However as soon as I undock the laptop, its display never light up, even after the modified drivers have been installed. Already watched this video ( ) and I thoroughly checked BIOS, but this variation Zbook does not appear to have Hybrid graphics option in it.

I would appreciate any help I could get on this, as I was going to primary use this as laptop and only occasionally dock it. @ ChanceJackson

Regards

 

hmmm thats a strange one...

 

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I think i saw that the zBooks use eDP cards instead of LVDS(?). maybe the card isn't outputting the type of signal the panel wants?

 

@AlleyKat I am sick of this HP sh*t. You might be on to something .. since the k2100m came with zbooks and was successfully upgraded in both 8560w and 8570w with standard (non Dreamcolor) screens, I assumed it is using lvds and all would be fine. I just added the k2100m from the Zbook to my 8560w to test this theory and guess what - no screen, this time permanently, no laptop screen, no external monitor screen. I found this topic:

http://forum.hpfocus.com/viewtopic.php?t=3599

where people comment that k2100m can output both eDP and lvds depending on the vbios. Could the same be applied to the GTX 965m? Or I am out of luck and should aim for 1050Ti or P1000? I cannot find any of those on ebay or amazon ..

 

in your zbook what kind of bios setting ou have? true UEFI? legacy?
depending on your cards vbios it might only work in true uefi (if its edp ) or only legacy mode (if its lvds)

 

@AlienHack no, UEFI is not relevant here .. it's legacy on both 8560w and Zbook and has been ever since I have them. It's just neither of the 2 graphic cards work on the other machine. I never would have thought the k2100m would not fire up on the 8560w, having in mind how many people have made that conversion. I am still hoping a vbios reflash could be a solution, cause I don't have any other options at the moment (can't find GTX 1050Ti Type A card or P1000 card). Quite frankly I would prefer the latter. I still hope for @ChanceJackson to jump in and make me look like a morron with a simple solution.

 

yo! good job on the installation. just format your system on UEFI based OS not legacy BIOS. then it would work fine.

it matters a lot. UEFI communicates / interacts with hardware differently when compared to legacy. do it and let us know the outcome. i am pretty positive it will work on laptop screen too.

 

you sir! well said

 

@surfinkin It says it cannot boot in true UEFI (no bootsector found), it probably requires me to convert the ssd from mbr to gpt. Is there anything else required for true UEFI to work? If it was UEFI related, now that I switched to UEFI in BIOS, shouldn't the laptop display work, while I am inside the BIOS? I am on Windows 10 Pro which according to google search is UEFI compatible, would i have to format ssd and reinstall OS, or is there a way for gpt convertion without losing data?


Can you explain to me in layman's terms, why the original k2100m works on this laptop with ssd in legacy mode in bios and the 965m does not? Where does the difference come from?

Thanks!

 

As said earlier, re-format your laptop based on UEFI.

Download this rufus tool that I'm referring to and prepare the USB Drive for Windows installation. Here, in this case I have taken the example of Win10 Pro.
1. Download Rufus Tool (I am using 2.18. It is simple and less complex for beginners / latest ones work fine too)
2. Download Windows installation .iso image using Windows Media Creation tool for Windows 10 (google it)
3. Insert 8 GB or more USB drive
4. Choose the below said presets in the rufus tool. Make sure you choose the Win10 ISO image you downloaded in the 'Create boot disk using > ISO image ___ browse for the ISO'
5. Click START and wait for a long time till done
6. Reboot system, goto BIOS settings, and in the boot mode, choose UEFI only.
7. SAVE and REBOOT
8. While booting, press Esc to interrupt start up and choose USB device as boot.
9. Proceed with installation. You better convert it from MBR to GPT (look up diskpart conversion from mbr to gpt during installtion)
10. Care, I am not responsible for your data loss incurred
11. Just Kidding
12. Nevermind Have FUN
13. I better stop doing this

If you want me to write a full scale detailed article, I would definitely consider

NOTE: Most important in the installation process, you are going to wipe/delete two partitions. One is (a) System Reserved (150 -500 MB usually by default) (b) C drive. Now you are going to see unallocated space. Upon first partition creation, it should tell you that it needs to create additional partitions. You say OK then it will create three to four extra partitions apart from C drive(where Win is installed)

ok your screen is connected to the board via a port. The port is usually of two types in our workstations. eDP and LVDS. LVDS displayes have no problems with legacy or uefi. but the eDP ones are specific and not all cards support the eDP in legacy hence you need to get the OS running in UEFI.

 

@surfinkin Ok, so convertion to gpt alone (not sure if doable without reformatting) would not help? Can you also explain how the original k2100m works when the bios is set to Legacy?

 

nah, it won't help cuz gpt is a way of maintaining partitions so it allows more primary partitions to exist where as the mbr allows a max of 3 or 4 primary partitions and the rest have to be in extended logical partitions.

but without reformatting, i am not sure cuz i have never done it before.

edit: maybe it is possible. check this link
https://www.disk-partition.com/gpt-mbr/change-legacy-to-uefi-4348i.html

 

@surfinkin Running in UEFI Native mode now, still no laptop screen

 

did you just convert mbr to gpt or a fresh install?
for my hp 8770w, the quadro m5000m wasn't working after i install the drivers. it would show display till logon screen and then it goes blank (external monitor connection to that of a PC works just fine though). i did a lot of stuff like flashing vbios and what not. but the only thing that worked for me was to run the OS in UEFI.


can you get into bios with your laptop screen or do you have to connect to another display to see anything at all?

 

I am in native UEFI, converted mbr to gpt. I verify that as I can no longer boot in legacy + VBIOS now showing: "GPU UEFI driver" instead of VBIOS: 84.06.52.00.27

No, the display never lights up, not in bios, not in PreOS, not in Windows. The guys in techpowerup say they are 100% it is a whitelist issue in the MB and not even a GPU VBIOS reflash would help. However they fail to explain to me in layman's terms, why the video card works when the laptop is docked. If the Mobo doesnt whitelist this video card, how is it, it works in docking station ..