8560w battery consumption with M5950 vs 2000m (both non DC )

Hi all... i was reading the post an i cant get the conclusion of which of the bellow have more battery life

a i7 quad .. with an ssd and a non dreamcolor display

a. Fire pro M5950 or

b. Quadro 2000m

as i know even in non DC displays nvidia does not use optimus and both of the systems can get benefits of the intel sandy bridge (it is inactive)

so it would be very helpful if any of you have made any test to post ...

 

Can't answer your query directly but can suggest that a Intel HD3000 equipped 8560P + DIY eGPU (eg: $215 GTX460-1GB) would give you the best battery life, benchmark faster and cost less than a 8560W.

 

Can anyone with 8560w run any battery test ?

EDIT: any news ?

 

Actually this question's been on my mind also.

The only thing I know is that the M5950 has a TDP of 25W and the 2000M has a TDP of 55W.

But does this mean that you get considerably longer battery life? I don't dare to make that assumption. There are just to many things to factor in.

Furthermore I would like to know how much impact the IPS panel has on battery life compared to the TN.

NEEEEEED REVIEWS!

 

I get 2h10 min on full battery during browsing & office work with the ambient light sensor enabled in a lit office (very comfortable to read) on the Power Saver mode with the DC Panel (yep, I know you asked non-DC!) and the M5950 connected to wired LAN and with wireless and bluetooth disabled, if that helps (XU086UT model).

 

Thank you for your reply.

It would be interesting to see now if someone with the same configuration, but with the non-DC panel does get significantly longer battery life.

When I consider the W520 does 6 hours of heavy web surfing on the 9-cell and 4 hours respectively on the 6-cell.
That's almost double the battery life of the 8560w. But then it has a TN-panel, optimus and the 2000m.

I am very undecided right now because I have to decide between a W520 and a 8560w.
I'm drawn to the 8560w because of its design and built quality. And because of the IPS screen and the backlit keyboard.
I'm drawn to the W520 because of its longer battery life and less weight. But I hate the extruding 9-cell battery and the design in general.

So if I decide I don't really need the IPS screen and it turns out that the TN-panel + M5950 give me a battery life of 4+ hours for heavy web-surfing, then I would definitely go with the 8560w.

I can't configure the HP over here in Europe, but there are some nice deals with my supplier.

I can get a:

- i5-2540M, M5950, FHD WVA for 1190 EUR,
- i7-2630QM, 2000M, FHD UVWA (the IPS one) for 1900 EUR,

and I could even get a 8760w for a good enough price if I decide to not take the IPS-panel:

- i5-2540M, M5950, FHD WVA for 1290 EUR.

The 8760w with IPS-panel isn't my price range anymore.
As you can see, both the 8560w and the 8760w with the M5950 and the TN-panel are pretty cheap.

There's a big premium for the IPS-panel. Maybe I'm willing to pay it, if I consider the 2000M also superior (mainly battery life is important to me here, I think they are almost the same when it comes to performance). But if the M5950 gives me the better battery life, then it would hurt even more to pay 700 EUR extra for an IPS-paneled laptop with the (in my eyes) worse graphics card.

Any suggestions from someone with experience?

 

xelra, have you considered a MSI GE620DX? Comes with a GT555M, FHD, weighs only 2.4kgs and best of all costs 654 ex Euros for the i5-2410M model. Out of the HP or Lenovo I'd go the Lenovo for it's mSATA, lighter weight and Optimus FX2000M. If you can look past the classic styling of course.

 

I agree, for battery life the new W series beats the hell out of the new Elitebooks. I was willing to sacrifice the large increase in battery life for the screen, and so far it seems to have been worth it. I would advise you try to find someplace where you can view the non-DC/DC screens in person; as the IPS screen, at least on the 8560w, is a bit grainy (it's difficult to explain but you'll understand when you see the screen), and that might bother you. Also the 8560w is quite a heavy thing, which might be annoying.

I came from a Lenovo W500 to this and was really considering the W520. All I can say is my experience with Lenovo laptops is that they are fantastic, and can withstand a lot of abuse. They might look poorly designed/a bit bland but when you use them, they're very functional; I'm already missing some of the features on my W500 that aren't on the HP.

 

The MSI looks nice. But it's not what I am looking for. Actually I would prefer a Clevo W150HRQ over the MSI like they have them here. You'll end up with 2.7 kg and you will be able to configure everything yourself. The TN FHD panel is a good one, too. It got 90% on notebookcheck.com.

If the W520 had a backlit keyboard, I would probably go for it. But since I don't like the 9-cell battery sticking out of the back, the battery life wouldn't be that much superior anymore with the 6-cell one.

I will try to find a store where I can compare the IPS and the TN panel of the HP. But then there is still the question: Which one gives you more battery life? The M5950 or the 2000M?

 

My config is i5-2540M (HT off), 4GB of ram, M5950, FHD WVA, 6-cell battery and I can do 3h+ of web surfing over wifi. It says that the power consumption while doing that is 20-24W.

 

My 8560w's battery lasts for about 3 hours when browsing with monitor brightness set to low/medium.

HWINFO64 shows power drain around 20-21 W.

There is something about the battery that is very odd: my battery has 91% of its original capacity after only 20 charge cycles. I specifically bought the long life battery (75 Wh) over the standard one (84 Wh I think) because it worked so well on my old 8530w (the battery still has 86% of its original charge capacity after about 810 charge cycles).

I tried calibrating the battery by doing a discharge followed by a full charge in hibernate but the problem still persists. It may not be a calibration issue, but a real issue with the battery.

Can somebody else tun HP battery check on their battery and share their results ? The HP battery check tool is either stand alone or can be accesses from HP Support Assistant. In order to get the detailed information you need to look under the advanced options.

 

Whats your configuration higgsboson?

M5950 or 2000M? CPU? Which display do you have?

BTW, nice name. Are you a fellow physicist?

Did you know that in France people generally think that we are searching for the X-Boson? That's because they don't pronounce the h in (H)iggs.

 

My configuration is:
- i7-2820QM
- 16 GB DDR3 1333MHz RAM
- standard 1920x1080 display (LG Display LP156WF1-TLF3 although people say normal 8560w aren't made by lg http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-business-class-notebooks/601043-hp-elitebook-8560w-dreamcolor-vs-non-dreamcolor-4.html#post7832028)
- Kingston HyperX 256GB SSD
- M5950 GPU with 1 GB of DDR5 memory

Thanks for appreciating the name. Unfortunately I've not been close to physics as I would have liked in the last 10 years.
Very interesting information about X-Boson. It's the type of thing you wouldn't ever know unless you're a native speaker. Thanks for sharing that.

 

Mine (non-DC) is made by LG as well.

 

You got the same configuration as Dysprositos apart from the SSD and the CPU. But the CPU has the same TDP.

Guessing from that I assume that only the IPS screen robs him of 30-40 minutes battery life compared to the TN screen. Assuming the SSD doesn't have that much of an impact.

Is this reasonable?

P.S.:
I'm not a native french speaker. I just came to know it during my time at CERN.

 

My rig ( 2820QM, video card 2000M, full hd lcd,.. ) can barely reach 3 hours of battery , that sucks in comparision to that of W520 thinkpad, which can offer up to 5 hours of battery life .
Battery life is the major drawback of 8560W elitebook

 

FYI I remeasured it. The battery logo in the taskbar says 2h10 min, but it actually lasts til 2h35min before it hibernates .

 

If the W520 had a backlit keyboard, that would probably be the way I would go.

But once I decided I wanted a backlit keyboard, my options narrowed substantially.

At this point I am trying to decide between an Envy 14 (for mobility) and an 8560w (for the power).

If I decide to go cheap, I would not get a lit keyboard and probably go with a DV6t-Quad.

 

Are you guys forgetting the extended batteries that are available?

 

4h30 here with ssd +hdd and quadro 1000M i7 2670qm ...the most balanced system ..i was making a test verus a mbp 17 and to my surprise the hd 6770 while better on synthetic tests isn't performing better than the quadro 1000m...so my advise is stick with the quadro even the 1000M if you don't really need the max gpu power ..not a big fan of amd here ...

 

How were you able to get 4.5 hours of runtime? Are you using the extended battery or just the standard 8-cell?

 

I'm getting more than 4 hours of office use, too. Just by deinstalling HP software and closing down unecessary processes. I got an M5950.

Does some1 know of a good guide or thread for undervolting the cpu of my 8560w? I've seen that even on idle there is quite some cpu consumption and I would like to even further enhance battery life. Maybe I can push it into the 6 hour region.

 

Core parking is enabled by default. Just set the max cpu % to 5% when on DC to run at the lowest VID. Then Load the Intel RST driver and enable AHCI Link Power Management in the control panel. Also set the IDT control panel item to turn off the soundcard after 5 seconds when not in use. My 2560P idles at < 5W but that's with a HD3000 iGPU. I can get 6 hours of real battery life websurfing. If I add a 100Whr battery I'd get 12hrs. Amazing little box.

Wish HP would put switchable graphics into their workstations like Lenovo and Dell offer.