HP 8710w Quadro FX1600M to FX3600M upgrade problem. Help please!

Hi everyone!

I know it's kind of near new years eve but i have a problem which is on top of me. I have a HP compaq 8710W laptop with a Quadro FX1600m and i bough from Ebay a Quadro FX3600m from a top seller. The card is a Hp part so it should'n be a problem for me. When i had installed the card in the mxm slot and started the laptop the display even in bios and everything the display flickers and i have some vertical green lines. In first place i thought that the mem chips are bad or the framebuffer. The seller assured me that the card is original and it hasn't been rebbaled or repaired. I tried reflashing the bios with another one. Nothing, still the same behaviour.
When it boots up in Windows 7 with the display driver the card fails in 1 minute after windows loading and after that the screen gets blank and after 5 secs it gives BSOD. In safe mode the card does not fails but still flickers and have strane colours.
When i connect the laptop through HDMI to a TV the screen on the TV is clear and nice.

I'm asking your help and to your ideas. The card is faulty or a bios problem?
I tried reflashing the laptop bios from F.0E to F.0F and still nothing.
If i still can;t fix this i will send it back.

Any ideas? Many thanks and i wish you a Happy New Year!

 

I happen to be a technician at a computer shop and I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but it very well could be the graphics card. The green vertical lines I have often witnessed to be a bad connection with the cable from the motherboard to the LCD screen or sometimes the LCD screen electronics go bad. I would suggest putting the FX1600m back in the unit to see if the problem persists. You shouldn't have had to mess with the cable, though because it connects to the motherboard rather than the video card directly. As far as the flickering, I'm really not sure what to make of that one.

I have the 8710w and was poking around to see if there was a better graphics card (for gaming of course) and I happened to come across your post. It's this sort of thing that discourages me from changing out the graphics card in mine, but I know several Quadro & Go cards are compatible with this unit. I upgraded from the Quadro NVS320m 256MB to the Quadro FX1600m 512MB with no issues. I begin to wonder if it even may require an A/C adapter at a higher wattage to power the GPU. Out of curiosity, what A/C adapter are you using with the unit right now (Voltage/Amperage/Total Watts)?

 

Hi!

Currently i am using 120w (18.5V and 6.48 A) A/C adapter . For Quadro FX3600m is better to use 135w adapter. If the AC adapter is not enough the laptop switches to battery mode. The upgrade should not be a problem. Other people did it. Even with a 8710p version. I found out that the card i bought is faulty from GPU . I guess it has been reballed or smth. I am sending back for a replacement. The green lines and BSOD when loading driver is cauaed by bad connection of GPU with PCB on the card. Another thing is the heatsink. It needs the dualpipe heatsink for FX3600m. The singlepipe does not cover all the mem chips. The LCD connection is good. With Quadro FX 1600m is ok. So i'm still trying to get it to work.

I found on a chinese site a dualpipe heatsink and i ordered it. Hope when replacement card arrives the heatsink arrives too.

Happy new year!

 

Hi guys!

The card that i have bought in first place it was indeed defective, The replacement card has arrived this week and i have been tested and it's working like a charm!
I'm still using the 120W smart adapter with no problems in Cryisis, Fifa13 etc.
There is one problem though. I have searched on the internet the similar problem and it seems it's caused by the nvidia driver. Every time i start Windows 7 in maximum 2-3 minutes it gives BSOD. It is caused by the nvlddmkm.sys driver and it is refering to the power states of the card. Nvidia Quadro FX3600m in particular has this problem.I
When it is in P0 state (max performance) it doesn't gives BSOD but when i put it in Powermizer mode with P12 mode then Bsod appears. Don't know why. I'm still trying to fix this,

Btw, i have the original heatsink from Fx1600m and it works ok but in a week the dualpipe heatsink should arrive and i will keep you updated.

Overall, it does worth the upgrade.

 

Hi everyone!

I want to give you an update of my experience with the upgrade. I fixed the BSOD problem with the 198.05 driver. It's an old one but it work good so far. Today has arrived the dualpipe heatsink for the Quadro FX3600m. It a original spare part and it looks well. I have installed it and it works like a charm. Temps never get over 65 degrees celcius in Crysis or benchmarks. In idle it's below 50 degrees celsius almost all the time.
If anyone is interested for a dualpipe heatsink to purchase or questions about the upgrade, let me know!

Cheers to everyone!

 

atamusic

I would like to buy the GPU and the dualpipe... Do you have skype or facebook?...

 

Come on bro! I need some info!

 

Hi mate!

Sorry for the delay. What do you want to know?

Cheers!

 

Hi!
The Quadro Fx3600m i've bought from Ebay for 160$ incl. shipping.
The dualpipe heatsink i've bought from taobao.com , the largest chinese market. ( like Ebay)
To buy drom there i recommend you to go to buyfromtaobao.com and search for the item there and they will buy it for you (with your money - paypal account) and sends to your adress.
I payed for it 11.46 $ and shipping separate.
It was a good deal and it's and original and new part.

 

I actually had a couple of questions regarding your experience now that you have tried this card with this unit. I have been wanting to upgrade to this card myself for some time. I went on Ebay and found a FX3600M for a really decent price and decided to order it and a 135Watt A/C adapter just to be on the safe side.

You say you are still using the 120Watt brick, is that correct? If so, how well does it work and have you run any benchmarks on it to see just how it compares to your previous FX1600M (i.e. 3DMark06 scores)?

The other question I had was how necessary it should be for me to get the dual-pipe heat sink for the card. Granted I know that would be in the best interest, especially if it's not too expensive making this a "No sense not doing it" kind of thing, but when you were using the FX3600M with the single heat pipe heat sink, what temps were you getting or did it really over-heat on you at all?

One other thing I am curious about is what all else have you tried with this card. I am very aware of the problem this card has with Windows Vista/7 and any drivers newer than the 200.00 drivers. I heard that people running XP were not having this issue with those drivers. If this is true (if you tried your configuration with XP, that is) then that will be awesome because I'm running XP 64-Bit and I'm perfectly okay sticking with that if there won't be any problems there.

I'm actually impressed with how much attention this particular notebook gets and how many people have been trying upgrades with these workstations and the similar (other HP workstation GPU upgrades). Most of the time you can hardly get information on people trying things with their notebooks in any fashion and the attention this notebook gets really helps to support the upgrades for these models which is great and makes it easy to research. I hope an upgrade like this one will be very beneficial because I've grown pretty attached to this notebook and I'd hate to see myself part with it anytime soon.

 

Hi !

First of all this particulary model of notebook is very well built, has a great heatsink solution and it's 1080p display rocks. If it could support a quad core cpu it have been a wonderful machine.
I had a T700 cpu and a Quadro FX 1600m videocard. I tried to find out as many info regarding upgrades. First of all i upgraded the cpu to T9300 cpu and it was a good choice because it'a temp in idle de decreased with almost 15 degrees with the stock heatsink.
After that i tried to find info for the video upgrade. After a couple of months of research i bought a Quadro Fx3600m from Ebay. At that time i had the single pipe heatsink. The 1st time the card came faulty from GPU. I have returned it and another one came in a very good condition. I installed it and it's working really good. With the single pipe and 120w ac adaptor the card worked well but the heatsink is "cut" for the FX1600m layout so for FX3600 it didn't covered the mem chips so it's risky to use it in intensive apps or games. The GPU was cooled down but didn't kbew if the mem chips were cooled enough. The 120w adapter holds the card but it's forcing the capacitors and i think in time it will eventually die, so i purchased the 130w to be sure i won't have problems. I am suggesting if you want to upgrade the card to purchase a dual pipe heatsink to be sure that the cars won't suffer from excesive heat. The dual heatsink is cut exactly for the FX3600m thus is working with FX1600m too. From temperature side the dual pipe heatsink is doing a great job! In games like FIFA 13, Crysis , Need for speed shift or anyother intensive games the card reaches a maximum of 65-68 degrees Celsius. In idle the card reaches 43-46 degrees C.
A note : with the T9300 cpu the fan in idle mode in many times it completely turn off. That's because it's 45nm process. It has really really low temps.
Yes , i have problems with the driver. It's a complicated one. With the drivers above 200 the card when reaches in idle P12 state (200 mhz gpu) , windows 7 freezes , display turns black and then a nice BSOD. It's an ignorance from Nvidia and we should do something about it. Now i using 306 driver and i have managed to use windows 7 stable with all the games working (locking the gpu on idle to use p10 state with nvidia inspector).
From the performance side it's a huge step forward. It has double the shaders , double the ROPS and double the mem bandwidth. I don't have scored but now i can play everything almost with max details. It equivalent of 8800 GTS found on HP HDX.

If you need more info, feel free to ask.
Cheers!

 

Sorry for writing mistakes. I wrote from an iPhone.

 

I noticed one of my questions was already answered about the A/C adapter. If you use the 120 watt adapter with the FX 3600m, he claims it goes into battery mode. I have just received the FX 3600m video card which I purchased from ebay about a week ago.

I also noticed it stays in battery mode if you started the computer and let it get all the way into Windows and will not give full performance right when you plug it in; you will have to reboot the machine after plugging into A/C power.

You can use the original heat sink from the FX 1600m, but it is not recommended. To cool all of the memory modules I used a single strip of thermal pad across all four modules. I take thermal pads from dead switches and routers when they are defective and/or dead. The thermal pads they use on 16+ port switches and routers underneath the heat sinks are very good thermal pads and make for excellent replacements as they are designed to cool actual chips. I used the same thermal pads when I switched to the dual-pipe heat sink for this 8710w (also compatible with the 8710p as they are the same builds). If you try to run the FX 3600m off the original FX 1600m heat-sink, you can hit temperatures as high as 95 degrees Celsius!!! If you don't stop playing when it hits that I can imagine it getting hotter than that. Using the dual-pipe heat sink will make the card cap at 62 degrees at hottest which is a big difference!!!

The video card I got from ebay (**Reference** FX 3600m 512MB HP part number: 468592-001). It was used, but they said it was in good working condition and compatible with HP 8710w. Well, it was, so I'm happy.

The dual-pipe heat sink is somewhat difficult to find, however, not impossible. They are available here in America so you don't have to get stuck ordering it from China like from Taobao.com. The part number for the dual-pipe heat-sink compatible with both the 8710w and 8710p is 468593-001.

THE DUAL-PIPE HEAT SINK CAN BE FOUND @
www.partforcomputer.com
www.impactcomputers.com
www.taobao.com
YOU CAN FIND IT ON THESE SITES JUST BY SEARCHING THEIR SITE FOR 468593-001
I purchased mine from www.PartForComputer.com and within a week I had it packaged and with fresh thermal pads.

You can get this other places, too. I just don't trust some of the other sites just because of some of the site names and I like having pictures to clarify I'm getting the right thing. I'm pretty sure most of you would agree with me on this as well.

I used Arctic Silver 5 to put on the GPU as my thermal compound. I would recommend getting the Antec brand arctic silver 5, but the arctic silver they sell at RS and other local stores should work as well. Just make sure you don't get the cheesy diamond stuff or the junk they sell at BB. Make sure it's the silver compound and that should do the job fairly well.

Be sure to get the 135 watt adapter for the unit as well to be sure you can power the card. The FX 1600m ran off 50 watts alone and the FX 3600m consumes 70 watts. Since the unit ships with a 120 watt adapter with the FX 1600m or the NVS 320m, we can assume the unit requires at least 70 watts from the brick *before* the video card. Some have wondered about putting the FX 3700m in the 8710, but I'm not sure where you can find a 150+ watt A/C adapter for this unit as the FX 3700m consumes 100 watts by itself!

So bottom line is:
Get your FX 3600m from a decent seller on ebay or another trusted source of your choice. Part # 468592-001
Get the dual-pipe heat sink from WWW.PARTFORCOMPUTER.COM. Part # 468593-001
Get 135 watt adapter from a decent seller on ebay or another trusted source of your choice. Part # PA-1131-08HC

Installation:
Use fresh thermal pads to cool all memory modules if possible. A single strip to cover all modules would be better, but not required.

Use arctic silver between the GPU and heat-sink. Antec Arctic Silver 5 is my preference.
Make sure the thermal pads also cover the other required to be cooled components of the card. I assume the other 3 big chips are capacitors, but I could be mistaken about that. Nevertheless, they need to have thermal pads on them as well to keep them cooled.

Pick your driver. If using Windows XP, I liked using the 296.88 for the FX 1600m. Since this was my favorite driver, I have decided to continue using it. In order to make this work, I had modded the driver myself. If you would like to use this driver I would be happy to upload my modded INF for the 296.88 for the FX 3600m.

In short, I simply found the entries in "nvbl.inf":
%NVIDIA_DEV.061C.0518.10DE% = Section003, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_061C&SUBSYS_051810DE
and
NVIDIA_DEV.061C.0518.10DE = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3600M"
and changed them to:
%NVIDIA_DEV.061C.0517.10DE% = Section003, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_061C&SUBSYS_051710DE
and
NVIDIA_DEV.061C.0517.10DE = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3600M"
(Changed 0518 points to 0517, basically)

Windows update also has the 311.06 drivers which are WHQL, but if you install them through Windows updates it will not install the control panel. If you go to where Windows puts its downloads for Windows updates (I believe in C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution) and find the file and rename it to xxx.cab (if file is not named with the .cab extension already) and then extract the cab file and run the 'Setup.exe' you can get the whole driver package to install.

If you are using Windows 7 and are having the major driver issue some seem to be having with the FX 3600m, visit LaptopVideo2Go: Drivers and pick out the 186.81 WHQL driver or google the driver by the version number and get it directly from Nvidia's site. You will have to either find a modified INF for it or make the modification yourself the way I mentioned above. Using anything before the 187.xx drivers should circumvent the black-screen problem and possibly some other issues even those related to power saving.

www.laptopvideo2go.com/drivers has a wide selection of drivers and quite a few of them have a modified INF so you can try them on most any laptop nvidia card and gives you plenty to experiment with and there is a guide in a forum somewhere that tells you how to do the INF switch (which isn't that difficult; if you can swap out a graphics card, I'm pretty sure you know how to replace a file...)

From my experience the end result is it is worth the upgrade. Older games that had little trouble with my FX 1600m do not agree with the FX 3600m. Some of those older games include Unreal, Unreal Tournament Classic & Jane's Fleet Command. This is purely when running them in video accelerated mode. If I run them in software mode and just deal with the lacking graphics, I can still play them. Games like Serious Sam 3, Farcry 2, Hawken (upper class shader 3.0 games) have a noticeable performance increase and without a hitch!!!

 

Hi! There is a 180W smart adapter for this particular notebook and it was provided for those who bought the notebook with docking station (hence it needs more power). I will search for the part number and i will post here. Quadro FX 3700 is not an option for me because it is very expensive, produces more heat, eats more power and it has compatibility issues with 8710W.

I have a problem with Fx3600m, donno if you have it but it drives me crazy. When i am using the latest forceware drivers like 306 for example, when the card in idle mode reaches for P12 (200 mhz GPU) power state it crashes with bluesrcreen &TDR ERROR. The only way to fix this issue is to force the card through Nvidia Inspector to use P10 (275 mhz GPU) state in idle mode.I tried editing the video bios to change from 200 mhz to 275 mhz in P12 mode but when i flash the Bios it doesn't change because the videos bios inside the system bios cannot be accesed. Only the card's video bios is flashed. Which is another problem. Anyway, i'm using the card stable with this kind of artificial mods.

The second problem is an ACPI problem. When i put my notebook to sleep or hibernate and i let him to stay like this for minimum 1 hour and aftet that i wake it, in maximum 1 minute after, i get in Task manager a usage of ~ 50% of System process (not System Idle Process - this is another thing) , and my CPU is used @ 70-80 % all the time , which results in alot of HEAT!
I cannot stop this only if i restart or shutdown the notebook but when i do this the laptop hangs right in the moment when it has to to this and the touch buttons upside the keybooard remains on (like i touch it). The only way is to force shutdown holding the power button for 5 seconds.
The error is from ACPI.sys.

Are you experiencing this king of problems after you upgraded your notebook?

And why did you modded the driver? Did you had troubles?
Many thanks!

 

I had a similar problem with p state 12 after upgrading my 8710w to an fx3600m the easiest solution that I chose was to simply download powermizer switch and disable powermizer completely (yes this leads to higher battery drain but I have had 0 problems and or lockups/bluescreens). I will also include my modified drivers for windows 7/8 x64 bit of which is set to install if the card was an 8800M GTX and the other driver set installs as a normal FX3600M, I personally flash it to the 8800M GTX so I can get the nvidia tray icon.

Link to powermizer switch
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/273276-powermizer-switch-get-most-out-your-video-card.html

Link to my drivers
FX 3600M package
http://rapidshare.com/files/322593023/320.18-notebook-win8-win7-64bit-international-whql%20FX3600M.rar


8800M GTX package
http://rapidshare.com/files/2430855773/320.18-notebook-win8-win7-64bit-international-whq%208800M%20GTX.rar

 

cliff...

Appreciate the links. Can you elaborate and expand on your comments.. I'm not familiar with powermizer switch. Also, are you flashing your card back and forth successfully? If you flash it to an 8800m GTX, do the bluescreen problems go away? I tired the Nvidia inspector with no luck. Still stuck with using drivers from the 180 to 190 series.

Best,

 

Powermizer switch simply disables powermizer completely (preferring max power) so the card never gets to the low throttle mode causing blue screens but drains slightly more power as the GPU clock is always around 300 mhz, the only thing the 8800M GTX package does is trick windows into thinking you're running a 8800M instead of the FX3600M but it does not fix the blue screens only powermizer switch did for me.

 

How did you flashed Quadro Fx3600M into a Geforce 8800M GTX ?
I tried flashing the card but it flashes only the videobios of the graphic card and not the video bios found in the notebook's system bios.
I cannot acces the videobios from the system bios. Did you have an idea?
Many thanks!

 

Thank you Cliffperucci for the Powermizer Switch find and thanks to Kenside34 who apparently developed the app! That did wonders for me.

I had a game the other day that did not run right with the modded 186.81 driver I was using and so I felt the need to update the driver to have any luck at all. I then remembered you mentioned that powermizer switch that fixes the black-screen/blue-screen issue with the FX 3600M and newer drivers. I gave that a shot and now I am using the 311.06 driver (also WHQL and without modification) and my game runs great now!

The only catch is I had to have the app handy (had it extracted onto my desktop before installing the driver) so when the computer rebooted after the driver installation I could run it immediately since you only have a 30 second window before the driver crashes. I launched it, hit "Apply Fix", clicked "Powermizer Off", hit "OK" and when it asked me to reboot I did so without any hesitation. I pretty much clicked through the menus like a mouse slinger to get the fix applied in time, LOL!

I'm keeping this utility! This is awesome because now I can use any newer driver I wish with my card.

Some of you have mentioned flashing the card's firmware to make it seen as an 8800 for various reasons. I get why, but I'm content with what I have and don't think I'll be altering the card's BIOS for anything. The card is already awesome now as it is IMO :thumbsup:

 

Does anyone knows how to edit the performance table of this videocard? I tried with Nibitor but when i check the bios (after flashing) it doesn't shows like it was edited. Because the videocard's bios it is different from videocard's bios located in system bios. Is there any tool that has acces to videocard bios located in system bios? Thanks!

 

I only changed the hardware ids in the drivers like slayer366 did for his

 

I too tried to flash it but HP put some sort of protection on the vbios and I couldnt get anything to flash

 

Yes, is a sort of protection against flashing the vbios of the card. If i could edit it, i could fix the problem right from the bios. I would change the P10 200mhz to P10 @ 275 mhz and no problem with all the drivers what so ever. Is there a reliable HP bios editor?

 

I don't know of any but I too tried to edit the P10 state in the vbois but I couldn't get it to work which was a real shame as I would like to run Linux as well on this machine, best bet is to contact HP and pray that they know what your talking about and can point you in the direction of a right program.

 

You can also try this program it also allows you to live switch the powermizer states and set it on different power states, I keep my laptop on medium performance on battery while high performance on battery. If you want It I will host it on my Google drive here, I didn't make this program but I can't remember where I found.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3ADv8T0UWniUVBWR1QtLXBoUlE/edit?usp=sharing

Updated driver package here

http://rapidshare.com/share/9D7C59F664D48462835290BD5E97260D

I've also been able to keep my laptop in the lowest thermal state without it BSODing

 

Hey guys--- Just tried to do this upgrade and my laptop won't turn on at all, show's no signs of life, I refitted the 1600m and still the same problem, tried with just battery, no battery and just powercable. nothing. no led's, no response to powerbutton either... any ideas?

did I somehow fry my motherboard?

I checked all connectors, no bent pins... hm :/

 

DO IT ON YOUR RISK ONLY!!
You need to unpack vBIOS first from the system BIOS bin.

Use HpUnpack (google it or message here i'll reup). Find module for your card (C0000_G92_.dec.bin)

now you can load it with NibiTor and edit the bios file or better just use hex edit (because NiBiTor is not supporting this exact model of card i think).

now you need to compile back system BIOS into 1 file use ADCC tool (it was posted here on forums too somewhere).

Personally I've just updated to FX3600M (using latest official drivers from nvidia.com) and it works just fine on 200mhz (I've already forced this mode with NvidiaPowerMizerSwitch), no BSODs or anything.

I'm on Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 with all latest updates installed.

EDIT: sorry it seems I was wrong, it's indeed have problems when PowerMizer is activated at low frequency (200mhz), windows freezes and gives BSoDs when videocard tries to switch from one mode to another..

by default drivers are not using powermizer at all..

also fan works more on higher frequencies, but i'm not gonna tweak fan (i've used NotebookFancontrol earlier to adjust it using only CPU temp and my videocard NVS320M dead).

 

hey guys,
i appreciate if someone can help me.
I've just done the upgrade from fx1600 to fx3600, buying the cooler with two heatpipe, new ac adapter and buying fx3600 (468592-001 hp part).
When i turn on notebook i see the led light of the screen but i don't see anything else (no words, no image) and after 30 second i hear a single beep. Each evry 15 seconds i hear other beeps and nothing appears?What could be the issue?
I checked everything...al cables are ok an connected, i've changed cpu (i removed t7700 and i've tried with a t8100) , remove ram banks and interchanged, but same problem.
Some suggestion?
Thank you very much.

 

most likely there is an issue with your videocard ..

try your old one, does notebook work with old card?

 

Check the screws pressure on the chip, and try to losen them a bit - sometimes there are too much pressure on the chip or applied unevenly, seriously
If won't help - maybe the BIOS update will. Also to verify if the card is working in other laptop would be great.

 

Thank you for replies, guys.
The screws are not closed much and i can not check on other pcs.
Older card (fx1600) has gone for sure, same issue of last time (two years ago).Last time hp service in Italy asked me 580€ to repair this notebook (they changed fx1600 with another fx1600).
I have bought the card here, i think it's the correct one, can you confirm me?
I've bought in USA:
HP NVIDIA Quadro FX 3600M RQ326AV 512MB GDDR3 PCIe x16 Graphics Card 468592-001 | eBay
Thank you again.

 

My 3600m is dying now as well, like your 1600m. Was thinking of using the oven trick, but keep postponing it. Kinda annoying that we have to spend so much to get new cards from overseas, since the ones sold from Germany are far overpriced.

 

if you want yo can test my card and see if you have the same problem...

 

Sure, if you ever come to Bassano del Grappa let me know, I'll gladly let you test it.

 

I lived in Valdobbiadene, we can find.
Write me please at [email protected]
So we can test the card and help us and other members that can have this problem.

 

Elevul, che fine hai fatto, ci possiamo incontrare?

 

Hello, my fx3600m is dead and i want to replace it with a fx1600m.
I found this one:
HP 8710P 8710W Laptop Video Card 451377-001 FX1600M 512MB Nvidia G84-975-A2 | eBay
Can i replace fx3600m with this one without problems?

Salve (vedo che ci sono molti italiani), la mia fx3600m è andata (linee verdi, pixel impazziti come se piovesse ecc. anche su monitor esterno) e, non trovando facilmente e a prezzo decente una scheda identica sarei tentato di acquistare la fx1600m che ho linkato.
Che ne dite?
Incorrerei in problemi?
Grazie.

 

Se puoi aspettare una settimana che tifone fa un po di testing col PC (ci siamo incontrati ieri e ha testato le sue fx3600m e fx1600m sul mio portatile, e la mia fx3600m sul suo, confermando che il problema è qualcos'altro sul suo pc, probabilmente la mobo), potresti avere un venditore italiano per la fx3600m.

EDIT: la sua fx3600m funzionava senza problemi (temperature più alte della mia però), mentre la fx1600m era morta sia sul suo che sul mio portatile. Mi sa che era morta, o abbiamo ipotizzato che c'era qualcosa da cambiare/resettare nel bios per farla vedere al laptop, però non abbiamo trovato niente.

 

Accidenti, l'ho già presa perché avevo una certa premura.
Mi deve ancora arrivare ma è stata già spedita.
In ogni caso vi farò sapere.

 

Which torx screwdriver did you use?
Che tipo di cacciavite torx avete utilizzato?