*HP EliteBook 2560p Owners Lounge*

Great job Nando thanks for the heads up as this is very interesting to me. Very nice work Nando I like the chart you made too. Wonderful results.

Nando I think you should now try dual channel 1866 10-10-10-27 on those samsung. That's Vengeance timings and shouldn't need over 1.5v. Who's says you have to buy those Corsair make em you've done very well so far.
Nando thanks for the credit.
My entry to this came from Johnksss work in the field. It's so facinating.

 

way to show that hp who is boss!

 

I saw a guy with a x220 and a i7-2620 that got about 5550 points in 3DMark06 with 1866MHz DC, saying he had about 300 points more as with 1333MHz DC. I think nando4 would get about 5400-5500 points with 1866MHz in DC, which would be a 6-8% gain compared to 1333MHz DC.

 

yes and definately worth it.. plus if he gets that stable at 1.5v he could try for 1866 CL9 and that would be very close or equal to 2133 CL13

 

I made two 3DMark06 runs each, one with my Vengeance and another with a one Vengeance + Stock 1333 (which effectively means stock at dual channel).

i7 2620M, Win7 64, GPU Driver Version: 8.15.10.2361

1866 2x4GB 10-10-10-27

Score: 5392 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score: 1803
HDR/SM3.0 Score: 2198
CPU Score: 3866

Score: 5405 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score: 1812
HDR/SM3.0 Score: 2198
CPU Score: 3886

1333 2x4GB 09-09-09-24

Score: 5112 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score: 1718
HDR/SM3.0 Score: 2061
CPU Score: 3838

Score: 5121 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score: 1719
HDR/SM3.0 Score: 2066
CPU Score: 3851

Granted I have no idea how to judge 3DMark point differences, but that doesn't look that impressive to me?

 

you need to try that same test with vantage and then compare....

 

What for exactly? nando4 used 3dmark06 and you use 3dmark06 in your signature...

 

because 3dmark06 for cpu testing isn't going to show you the gains you are looking for. I agree Vantage is very CPU dependent.
if you want another way to compare download maxmem and run the 1333 and 1866 and post both pics...
Download MaxxMEM2 1.91 Free - A useful memory benchmark - Softpedia
i cant find the latest link but if you look for it it is version 1.96 this one is almost the most current

 

Does a memory-based benchmark really show you the gains you get? I would say 3dmark06 shows the performance gain you get in everyday-use ... just 5%.

 

You've gone from 3dmark06 average of 5117 to 5399 (+5.5%). The CPU component of that will be constant. The SM2.0/SM3.0 graphical results increased by 5.7% (4.9%/6.5%). Modifying your Corsair RAM to run at 2133, say 12-12-12-37 or faster should see you getting up near 10%. Is it worth the trouble of going from > F.20 to F.01 + RAM mods to get that? You can decide but I'd say it's an enthusiasts mod or one for someone to do if they only want to run single-channel RAM (why?) at near dual-channel levels.

I've therefore revised my conclusion in Performance: running 1600, 1866 or 2133Mhz DDR3 RAM in a 2560p suggesting that single-channel is seeing higher performance improvements likely due to memory bandwidth starvation, which dual-channel solves.

This mod would probably be a good one for a 2570P with a HD4000, whose iGPU has faster processing abilities so may be bottlenecked by RAM bandwidth. No doubt HP will engineer the 2570P to be bios limited from the get-go to prevent using modified RAM timings.

 

i would hold off on that percent thing.
go back and look at the actual frames or fps you gained over the other. that's how you tell

 

Required: pictorial/guide for i7-quad CPU upgrade for novices

Anybody want to do a pictorial or video writeup on how to upgrade the CPU to a i7-quad?

I'm suggesting a 2560P to be one of the best value pocket rockets but am copping criticism from some of the NBR elite about suitability of recommending 'upgrading parts' for non-technical users.

Of course, us 2560P technical owner's know that servicing the 2560P is much easier than other systems. Replacing the CPU being as easy as removing the back cover, undoing the 2 screws the secure the fan and moving it aside, undoing the 4 screws that hold the heatsink in place and removing it, then undoing the single screw that closes the CPU socket down and removing the CPU. Easy.

Unfortunately HP's media service library doesn't show this process so hoping someone is willing to make one for our users or potential new 2560P owners.

 

Whle on the 2570p isn't present yet, on the 2560p i found the related video for replacing the CPU. It does'nt show perfectly but close enough. If i had more thermal grease i would do the video, but i'm currently out of stock

CSR Services Media Library - Media Search Results <---- Check Processor

 

Hey guys,

I'm wondering if someone could do a quick comparison of the battery slot size on the 2560p vs the 2570p?

What turned me off the 2560p was the 6 cell battery sticking out the back but it looks like this may have been changed in the 2570p so the battery is flush with the back.

but this may not allow the mobo swap proposed earlier in the thread?

I am going off the pics from slashger (2 column, 6 row) and assuming the picture is correct.

HP EliteBook 2170p and 2570p hands-on - SlashGear

 

Well I bit the bullet and instead of putting more $$ in my 2510p I bought a virtually new 2560p, i-5 2520m, no webcam, no finger print reader, with 6 GB ram , a 500 gb hdd for $500 CAD. I think that's reasonable? Prefer the 16x10 and brightness of the 2510p screen and the keyboard, but I'll grow to live with the 2560p which should be easy given the performance difference.

So my first mod was to install a primary Vertex 3 ssd, which really makes this thing fly, and also did the corresponding DC optimized mod, but now have one issue I can't seem to correct:

FIXED Thanks firefox "JMicron PCIe SD" I'm getting an unknown "Base System Devise" under other devises in the device manager. its location is PCI slot 2(PCI bus 35, device 0, function 0) I can't find the right driver to correct this, can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks

New question: Is there a quite fan mod for the 2560p, will the 2510p quite fan fix work?

As for other mod I'd like to do:

Has anybody retrofitted a webcam into a no webcam 2560p model. I've seen HP part # 642796-001 for dirt cheep on ebay (less than $10), but I can't figure out if this is the right part or if I need anything else like internal cables which do not come with this part #. It would be amazing if this was a plug and play mod, seems it might be as there is a covered hole where the webcam should be on the screen bezel, just not crazy about disassembling the bezel to find out this can't be done. Last Q: if possible and I do it, would this mod void my warrantee? I've just looked at p 77-81 of

http://images10.newegg.com/User-Manual/User_Manual_34-158-071.pdf

and it appears possible, but would like some feedback before attempting this.

Just noticed that the webcam/nowebcam bezel has different part #'s so I'm figuring one has black plastic and the other has a webcam window/glass-optic?: do you guys figure the webcam retrofit could work without the window in the bezel, or some form of home made solution could be applied, or is the HP webcam bezel an necessarily operational component for the webcam part #642796-001?

Thanks in advance for your reply!!

Matthew

 

"JMicron PCIe SD [..]"

 

That did the trick, Thanks!