*HP EliteBook 8530p/w Owners Lounge *

Has anybody found the Intel AMT driver for Windows 7 for the 8530W yet? I have two unknown devices, PCI Serial Port and PCI Simple Communications Controller, that I assume are Intel AMT.

 

HP just posted the Intel AMT driver in the Windows 7 download area for the 8530w.

 

New question all together folks. i recently recieved a 6730b in a part exchange for my 8510w which i was trying to sell. whilst talking to the bloke he told me it had mobile broadband where u slot a sim card underneath the battery.
After completing the deal. i decided to check my 8530w since it came fully spec'd out. it does have a slot. but my main question is:

Does everybody elses 8530w has this slot? (was it optional when purchasing or does it just have the slot as just incase)
i would like to test this out but i put my sim card in and turn it on and it didnt say anything about new hardware etc as usual when u plug something in.

Any feed back on this would be very useful.

Thanks

 

The slot is probably in all the 8530's but the actual SIM-Card reader is not.

In my own 8510w the actual mini-pcie slot is also missing (under the keyboard) so I cannot install any 3G card afterwards.

So it's worth checking out if your 8530w has the pcie-slot even if it wasn't configured with wwan.

 

Hi all,

I have a 8530w notebook with win 7 professional x64. And i can't make the ethernet to work. I think, the driver is not working properly. Please help me out

 

I have read several forums for hours and it turned out, that that the program named bonjour caused this problem. It was installed with itunes. But it finally works

 

Hello Everybody,

I am considering buying 8530W, but i don't know which graphic card should I choose.

I don't use a lot 3D software/games. So under normal use:

1. Will ATI V5700 consume less power and generate less heat?
2. Will Nvidia 770M also run cool?
3. Which graphic card is good for photo display?

So what I care most is the BATTERY LIFE and HEAT. Anybody used ATI or Nvidia could give me some advice?

Thank you In advance!.

 

I have both HP GPU cards here now, V5700 and 770m. I did a quick test swapping between the 2 cards on the same system. The system is a clean win7 x64 install using HP supplied OS and driver recovery DVDs. It only has a T7100 CPU (I know, its all I had lying around) and a 2GB stick o RAM.

I tested at idle when the system went into that dim screen mode, after a few minutes of idle. To load it I just used the Win7 experience rating.

Here are my findings

Not a measurable difference with a kill-a-watt, they both idle at 18W. At load I saw a peak of 51W on both, (actually I did see 55W for a split second on the 770m), though generally, I saw lower average wattages with ATi over the course of the test.

Yes, and you can underclock it too, I haven't tried the ATi for underclockability yet.

I'm no expert, but they should both be pretty good, depending on what screen you are using.
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Hi,

I recently bought a 8530p and now i can't get the HDMI port to work, anybody got any idea why it won't work?

Thanks!

Lode

 

The card underlock itself, i think. How do you do it manually. Does it have an affect on the battery life?

 

You should download the latest driver from ati website. I think, that in your notebook there is an ati videocard, correct?

 

I just joined the family after shelling out for a new 8530p.

Thought a long hard while about shelling out a bit more for the 8530W, but the T9600 vs P8600 and FX 770M vs 3650 for over $200 more did not seem attractive enough, especially since my current P8600 is more than sufficient. Will be losing a bit performance from a 9650M GT to the HD3650, as well as less RAM, but RAM's cheap and a business class with 3 years of international warranty is what I'm looking for right now.

Still, if anyone has a great deal for a 8730W, count me in!

 

How did you get the extra off?

BTW, I came to the same price/performance/value trade-off decision as you and have joined the club with an 8530p, on the 25th.

I thought about the 8730w deal TD had last week but past on it. Though much better deal than the 8530w they just had, but a bit too bulky for me especially when including the power brick. I've got a nice 24" wuxga IPS screen on my desktop anyway.

Anyone know the difference between the EN488AA (2006?) and KP080AA (2008) docking stations?

Will there be a 2010 docking station soon? preferably one with an esata or sata port.

 

I actually thought a long while about the 8730w. Heh, bulk isn't much of an issue for me. Mostly, I just wanted to scale my main machine up to a larger than 14", as it feels very strange to use a 12" tablet as a portable, and a barely larger 14" as my main machine. Even though I'm getting slightly poorer performance compared to my main right now, the warranty is what I'm looking for. If the 12.2% had been up then, would have hopped on the 8730w immediately. I've actually been watching 8730w prices on Ebay for a while now, but nothing really spectacular. Tried calling HP Business Outlet as well, but they didn't pick up.

As for the extra $30, I'm attempting to see if cashbacks stack. Last I tried, it did.

I must say though, I'm a tad worried about the ATI drivers in the 8530p, ATI's support for mobile drivers has always left me somewhat wary.

 

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever tried other GPUs other than the default GPU options available? Was reading earlier parts of the thread where it mentioned the 8530 series have a MXM slot? I don't expect it to work since there's no BIOS support, but I was wondering if it would fit.

 

Thought about stacking but didn't want to risk it.

Last time I had ATI on my lappy it was better to mod the desktop catalyst drivers. Someone made a exe to make the mod easier. Not sure where thats at but something similar must still be around.

Besides, bios and fitting issues there is also power issues and price (relative to the price of the 8530p). Maybe you should have gotten the 8730w if this is really an issue.

 

My new 8530W is on its way to me ... YAY!

Anyway, I noticed from pictures that the default 120W AC adapter is a bit over sized and skimming through the thread I found that I can get the 90W which is reasonably more suited for mobility.

Question, where can I get one for cheap? And is this the right model # " ED495UT#ABA"?

After a quick search on eBay I found this generic adapter, the store seems to specialize in these types of things. Would you advise paying more and sticking to the original HP 90W, or would this do the trick?

 

As soon as i discovered the $999 8530w at TD, it was taken down. Does anyone know where i can find the T9600 version for a similar price? Ive checked the bay and most are around 1300 for a similar model. Thanks

 

Hey Veloscaper, could you enable PMs? I have a message for you.

 

@dtwin, I can't seem to post or receive PMs. Not sure what is going on cuz I can still see old ones in my inbox. Anyway, I do have a gmail account under this same screen name.

 

That's what i ordered, about 12 hrs or more before it was listed as OOS, and it has yet to ship

I've called them twice, and they say they don't know why the delay, but I should be getting one even though it's OOS now, CS "emailed their warehouse" !!!

I'm not so hopeful that I'll ever get it, but I'm not gonna cancel without being sure there is no way to get it, $880 for that config is a hard price to beat. So don't beat yourself over missing it by minutes. I'm guessing they didn't have enough stock anyway.

 

indeed, an amazing deal. hopefully you will get it qwester. Meanwhile, I shall continue to scour the internet for a deal.

 

Sent you a mail. Hope you like the news.

 

The 120w ac may be needed for the 8530w. Google "Dell Throttlegate" for an underpowered 90w ac issue affecting E6400/E6500 and some XPS notebooks. For them, they need the 120w ac. Might be the same for the 8530w.

From the pics it looks like the 8530p comes with a 90w ac, I'll know tomorrow. So the difference in cpu (T9600 is 10w more than P8600 at 100% load) and gpu (35w vs 30w according to notebookcheck) between the w and p models is 15w, which apparently puts the power demands of the w model beyond the 90w ac since they included the 120w ac with it.

If you already ordered and or still want to try the 90w ac, one solution if you experience problems is to undervolt the cpu.

@dtwn, thanks again.

 

Glad to help. I just got mine. Haven't opened it yet. Check if there's a webcam when yours gets here. I'm hearing that no webcam included.

Wondering if I should just put it up for resale. Just got in on a deal for a 8730w with docking station + 19" monitor for 1512, maybe less including tax.

FX3700M, T9550, WUXGA, 4GB RAM, XP/Vista Bus, 160GB HDD, Wireless, Bluetooth 3 year warranty. Refurbished though, but should be able to sell the extras for about 150. dropping it down to about 1360.

 

I bought my 8530w CTO with ATI, WUXGA, and P8600, specifically. I've taken to leaving the 120W brick at home and taking a 90W with me.
With my configuration, the 90W brick tends to be enough for usage including video playback and various CPU-only compilation, but if I run HL2DM or Crysis or such for too long, the brick tends to get very hot. I've never noticed any slowdown; I should check for that some time.

 

@dtwn Yea, was going to post about the new pics showing a lack of web cam. TD has mislabelled the nightlight activation button as the web cam in the pics. Spec says web cam and the original pic has a web cam but the new 17 pics they added over the weekend don't show it.

Tempted to call in to complain about the drop in features if it really doesn't come with a cam as this was listed when I bought it and was looking forward to using it.

Congrats on the 8730w. FX3700M is a powerful gpu. I don't think there is much difference in Refub or new. HP doesn't seem like Dell which labels the refurbs with an additional sticker. Could just be new stock saved to send out to handle warranty issues. With new models coming next month HP just wants to clear inventory and if needed use the new models for such warranty issues. I think the real refurbs come with 1 year warranties.

@DanaGoyette, best way to verify power load would be to use a watt meter (like a Kill-a-watt plug) and run at full cpu and gpu load. Would be interesting to check some time.

 

Same deal with the missing webcam on the 8530w, at least according to users on another forum that ordered earlier. I think they should at least credit back a bit over the missing option that they advertised. And the pics they added that show the missing webcam were posted either after orders were placed or even after it went out of stock in the case of the 8530w.

By the way does the 8530p really come with a 7200RPM drive. When I tried to google the config # last week I found an order form from some educational institute and the HDD was listed as 5400RPM.

Finally, thanx for the info about the 120w/90w power brick issue. I guess I'll wait to see if my 8530w ever ships, 2 days overdue already, and then if I can live with the size of the 120w. I mostly use CPU intensive apps, hence the T9600, so it might not be a smart idea to use the 90w brick.

 

Thanks! I actually upgraded the warranty to 3 years for just $60. What I heard was there was a pink sticker in the battery bay for refurbs during the 8710W fiasco a few months ago.

Refurb models are sold with a "r" in the product tag.

Right now, I'm torn between opening it up to get accurate specs for resale, or just selling it as new. Grabbing the 8730w and this 8530p has me about maxed out right now. Heh.

Regarding the web camera, call in to complain and ask to speak to management. At least one person obtained a $30 credit.

 

I was curious what the power draw might be so I looked up the data for the processors.

TXXXX series draws 47 amps @ max Vcc of 1.25V = 58.75W @ load.
PXXXX series draws 38 amps @ max Vcc of 1.25V = 47.5W @ load.

Assuming notebookcheck is accurate:
Nvidia 770M power consumption = 35W
ATI 3650 HD power consumption = 30W

Misc:
Screen wsxga+ ~= 8W
HDD ~= 2W
memory + sound + usb + chipset ~= 8W*
subtotal = 18W

*just assuming but the TDP of the PM45 chipset is 7W.

So total power consumption est:
8530w = 58.75W + 35W + 18W = 111.75W @ load
8530p = 47.5W + 30W + 18W = 95.5W @ load

This is max worst case scenario, different components don't max out all at the same time. But now I wonder if even the 8530p comes with a 90w brick. Even then it definitely should get hot at load (which DanaGoyette reports) and I would not expect long life out of the brick if one operates at load for long hours.

Anyway, rep if you thought this was interesting.

Edit: The GM45 chipset with the embeded 4500HD gpu has a TDP of 13W. So even T series cpus could use the 90w brick.

Edit: @dtwn, the FX3700M consumes 75W (from notebookcheck) plus a few watts more for the WUXGA screen. 58.75W + 75W + 21W = 154.75W. Make sure you get the 150W brick.

 

You also have to factor in that power supplies are not 100% efficient.
I am not sure of the range of efficiency for power bricks, but for desktop PSUs you see good brands advertising 80+ efficiency, so my guess even when good components are used there probably is a good 10-15% loss on the power brick, hence the heat.

 

I think I saw in some HP datasheet when looking for the specs of the TD 8530p (AT240US or something like that) that the efficiency for the power bricks is 83%. Which is about what I've seen other notebook power bricks at.

However, if the power brick is rated at 90W, then that is what it should support at the output. The efficiency comes in figuring out the power consumed to deliver that 90W. So 90W/83% = 108.4W consumed from the AC outlet.

 

Hello happy owners of the 8530w

I would like somebody will post some photos of the HP "Night Light" accessory (if anyone has it or has found it on the internet). I'm seriously thinking about purchasing the new EliteBook 8740w model (when released, expected at the end of january, next year) and it may be this model will be compatible with Night Light, unlike the old 8730w, which is not compatible. For me it's very important this accessory, because I'm going to work at night in low light conditions very often.

Thanks in advance.

 

Any proof of where it is supposed to be released in Jan next year?

Also, as far as I know, the 8730w comes with the Night Light? It's basically built into the bezel, and with a touch of a button, a little light pops out. It's not particularly bright, and to be honest, the backlight from the screen seems almost brighter than the Night Light.

 

Rumours come from here.

No, you're wrong, the 8730w is the only model that has no support for Night Light (all other models yes). It seems the problem is the huge size of the keyboard. But I hope HP fix this for its new 8740w.

Edit: Fixed, my mistake. Thanks Dana.

 

It's odd... I got e-mail notification of a reply to the post on hpfansite, yet even now (3 days later), the post has not shown up.

The Night Light itself IS built into the LCD bezel. I'd have to say it's less effective than the ThinkLight (from what I've seen with friends' ThinkPads) -- for my 8530w, it only really works if the room is extremely dark, and only lights the keyboard well if the Lid is perpendicular to the table.

 

Interesting. I was running off this ad.

http://h20426.www2.hp.com/solutions/midmarket/au/en/pdf/datasheets/notebooks/8730w_Datasheet.pdf

And as you can see, it is not an accessory. It might not be available in the 8730w, but that is its position on the 8530. Dana's right about its effectiveness. My 8530's screen seems to put out more light than the NightLight does.

 

As per my posts above I have the 90W supply (official HP if you believe the stickers are genuine - bought from eBay) and it does the job on my dual core 8530p. I wouldn't trust any generic chargers unless you were sure they're good build quality - I've had one explode on me before (for a different laptop).

I find the keyboard light isn't bright but it provides enough light to see the keyboard in the dark. If it's not dark then why would you need a light anyway?

 

Don't believe the stickers. I have bought 3 90W ones off eBay recently, for as little as $15 shipped. They are all slightly different sizes and they all look genuine with HP labels etc. But I also have what I am sure is a genuine HP 90W one from an older HP laptop. That one is noticeably heavier (and a slightly different size again) than the 3 eBay ones.

 

For comfort and health reasons. If you mean to work with the computer in a fully dark environment, yes, I believe it's healthier (or at least, more comfortable) to light up the keyboard with a lamp rather than with the light of the screen only. If working with a backlit keyboard only in that environment, I don't know how this affects to our vision.

 

Yup, don't believe the stickers even if they say HP and even give a model number. Recently received one of those $15 "90w Genuine HP" adapters. It makes noise, even beeps sometimes, just plugged into the AC with no DC load on it (i.e., detached from my notebook just plugged into AC).

Measuring the dimensions it is smaller than the referenced HP model and weighs less too. Matches the dimensions of my 75w Acer adapter, which still weighs more and doesn't make noise.

Make sure you get a real one. The official 90w adapter compatible with the 8530p as listed by HP is ED495UT or ED495AA.

 

Hmm, speaking of AC adapter noise, the 120W brick that came with my EliteBook makes a rather irritating high-pitched noise when lightly or not-at-all loaded (such as with laptop in sleep); I'm sure it's an official adapter, though.

Also, the laptop itself has recently begun making coil-whine noise; it never used to do that. I'm not sure whether it started the last time I sent the thing in for service, or some time thereafter.

 

hmmm, this seems like the right place to post this:

the screen on the 8530p (WSXGA+) how is it? more spacifically how is the blacks and contrast? can you compare it to something else like a thinkpad WXGA LED screen or SXPS 16? or even a desktop panel.

also the chassis... I keep hearing little pieces of what it's actually made out of. I've heard the parts are aluminum and others are something else... so can someone by changes give a 'panoramic discreption of the notebook? pictures say little the materials used and how solid they feel.

this machine looks perfect except I can't find one anywhere to actually see the screen... it's the only thing holding me back really. (then I can be done with my Thinkpad).

 

Put it this way, the only external parts of the laptop that are plastic are:
1. The display bezel.
2. The top cover (which is non-structural), but it has brushed aluminium covers on wear areas - palmrest, button board.
3. The bluetooth, RAM, and HDD covers.

Everything else is magnesium (bottom cover) or brushed aluminium (lid, palmrest, switch cover). Yes, even the bottom cover is magnesium, though it looks like plastic. It just has a strong black plastic-look paint on it. This is a departure for HP, all previous laptops had a more traditional plastic bottom cover with a magnesium internal frame. The bottom cover is the magnesium frame on these!

In simple terms, the 8530 is easily the most solid laptop I've ever used, and I've used almost every equivalent HP laptop over the years (see sig).

 

ok, that does sound good... I just wish I could find one to compare the screen.... I got burned once buying a notebook with out seeing... not again.

 

Anyone care to give this question a shot?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5619022&postcount=35

 

Yep, I get that too. Doesn't do it on the 19V supply I got with the docking station, only the 18.5V laptop PSU.

The 'genuine' (or not) PSU I got from eBay is _possibly_ not genuine, but it does look very similar (if not identical) to a genuine HP 90W supply, and I'm not really sure there's any way to find out, other than measure & weigh them both.

It works, and it doesn't get any hotter than my 120W brick, and it doesn't whistle, so it's good enough for me. It might explode on me one day, but that's the risk you take with eBay purchases, especially from China. It's not my laptop (works laptop) so I'm not too fussed if it kills it one day.

I bought a non-genuine Fujitsu PSU to replace the one I mentioned earlier that exploded - I bought it from a UK seller and it was embossed with their eBay Shop logo. It feels like a solid unit and I see no reason why it wouldn't be as good quality as a 'genuine' FS supply just because it isn't FS branded.

 

In regards to the whistling adapter, I had the same problem with an identical adapter for my 8710w and HP replaced it. The replacement adapter is silent and emits no whining sound. Try RMA'ing it.

 

Hey guys,
I'm going to buy a HP Elitebook 8530w from a guy, he told me that the laptop directly comes from HP outlet/refurbished store, can anyone confirm this information for me ? Is that real ? I have looked around the HP Outlet/refurbished store but cannot find any 8530w there.

 

Click on Notebook PCs.

http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/hpre.../buspurchase-refurbished/computing/price-list