*HP EliteBook 8760w Owners Lounge*

It should be fine. People have done that with 8770w. I would love to test if my clelvo 980m works in 8760w when I got time.

 

I have put a K4000m into my 8760w without any problems. A K2100m on the other hand had a black screen on an 8760w... but booted fine in an 8770w. I was able to flash a different vbios to the K2100m to get it to work properly in an 8760w and 8560w (MSI vbios I believe). So I think a K5000m, K4000m or K3000m would be fine... but be careful with the K3100m, K4100m or K5100m. And just because a card works in an 8770w, don't assume it will work for the 8760w. I also found out from the K2100m experience that there may be a different vbios if you have a DreamColor display vs non-DC.

 

Please do so and inform us of the results. As tselling has remarked, it is possible that a card that works on the 8770w would not work on the predecessor.

 

I'm enjoying the Dock a huge lot. I've never had a dock for any of my laptops, so this is my first, and i'm loving it!

Wish all laptops had them, especially the gaming ones, which are way cheaper than the elitebooks.

 

Hello to everyone you have questions about max gpu that can be put in ours 8760w. i have installed gtx 860m in my unit and its working gooood so i thing that you can use any graphic card on mxm 3.0 in yours laptops.

 

Sapphire Displayport to Single Link DVI Active adapter arrived, but this one shows as HDMI as well and takes a TMDS clock. It's not possible that 3 adapters from 3 different manufacturers have the same problem, especially when the third was bought from amazon.de.
Could it be a drivers issue?

 

Ok, tested today with Displayport monitors, and confirmed the 3000M doesn't support more than 2 monitors (internal + 1 external), regardless of the connector.

Guess I will have to upgrade the GPU to a k3100m. :/

 

Problem solved with the USB3 DisplayLink adapter, but I don't like this solution, since it introduces lag, eats 5-10% of the CPU power continuously and doesn't support f.lux, which makes it unusable during the night.

 

Hi tselling, Thank you for your explanation, when you installed K2100 did 8760w detect it on its BIOS? Did you need to manipulate the inf file of NVIDIA driver or just installed the driver directly?

Hi, laska125
Thank you for sharing us your experience.
What version of 8760w bios do you have?
Did you need to manipulate the inf file of NVIDIA driver or just installed the driver directly?

I just need to ensure that the video cards will work on latest 8760w BIOS (F.60)

 

Without a vbios flash to video card... just a black screen. After vbios flash K2100m was recognised in bios. Bios version of laptop didn't seem to matter. LaptopVideo2Go drivers work ok... but I had to modify the inf a little to get brightness control working. Note that I don't know about the dreamcolor display. On the 8560w I could not get any card other than original to work with dreamcolor display. I don't know about the 8760w dreamcolor.

 

Ok Bro, well noted, I hope the version of laptop bios won't give any effect just like what you've told. Luckily mine just ordinary 1080p (non DC one). BTW I'm still unsure to buy K5100M because of the compatibility and since the cheaper one is around 700 USD .

 

I agree with your information above, but would you please confirm about below part number ?
The 8770 Top cover & touchpad (the touchpad has a different Ziff cable connection on the 8770) 652536-001 6050A2479401


I'm still unsure about above PN because when I check on 8770w manual the correct top cover part number is 688747-001 whereas PN 652536-001 can be found on 8760w manual only.
Would you please help to advise which one that I should choose for top cover 688747-001 or 652536-001?

 

So, I'm checking back after a while....
In the mean time I bought a K5000M, installed it and I got a black screen :/
Any ideas, do I need to flash the VBIOS of the gpu, and how am I supposed to do so ?

edit: this GPU was previously installed in a Dell 6700 laptop

 

Someone installed a Dell K5000m in an 8770w, seems to work right away.

The 8760w may have some whitelist. Try upgrading the BIOS to the latest version, then pull out the CMOS battery (to reset it), install the card, plug the CMOS battery back in and power it up. The only other solution I can think of is flashing blindly (or ideally, on a Dell, so you can see what's going on) using nvflash and a HP K5000m BIOS, it works for some older MSI cards...

Edit: I forgot the link: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...mcolor-monitor-for-a-dreamcolor.693276/page-3

 

Hi everyone,
As You probably already figured out I have HP 8760w. Normal FHD panel and Quadro 4000m.
I've bought this notebook few weeks ago with a flaw. On 2D low power mode (some windows files copying or light browser use) an artifacts appeared.

It is definitely graphic card related problem. It was less noticeable on newest NV drivers.
Never showed up during video play or heavy workloahttp://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/hp-elitebook-8760w-owners-lounge.581056/page-92d. Card even OC pretty well up to 3480 pts in 3dmark11.
I've read somewhere that this is a slow graphic card dying symptom as it is related with low voltage during idle 2D state.
Since I couldn't find any program like Fermi BIOS Editor to edit the 2D voltage I've decided to exchange for a second hand (60$) K3000M.
Everything went swell. Even without any drivers mod. Until I've tried to change the screen brightness.
Just nothing happened. Brightness can be changed only in BIOS or while windows is booting. Until the drivers aren't loaded. Than only automatic light sensor can be enabled and this one can change the brightness.
This happens on two windows systems (both of them are windows 7 64 pro).
Everything besides that works grate. (OC 1000/2000)
K3000M is a dell card but I re-flash it with the K3000M HP VBIOS.
No change.
Any ideas????

 

I've got a tool that can edit the Quadro 4000m BIOS, let me know if you want to try it.

Also, please detail the re-flash procedure - could be really useful for others trying to install Kepler cards in the 8760w.

On the brightness issue - are you trying to change it using the fn-key shortcuts or from the Power Options menu? The former doesn't work without the HP hotkey drivers, which may need to be removed and reinstalled. Otherwise, could be a driver issue - does it install properly?

Maybe you need to edit the driver files as mentioned before ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/hp-elitebook-8760w-owners-lounge.581056/page-90)?

http://null-bin.blogspot.com/2015/08/how-to-modify-nvidia-notebook-driver.html

 

If You could send me this BIOS editor (fermi bios editor not supporter this card) I think it could help me with the 4000m problem. You can post a link on the forum or send me by PM.

Re-flash procedure was done ordinary like all NV re-flash procedures with one exception.
I've decided to re-flash touch the dos bootable USB. For safety and for blind flash if needed.

First I've downloaded a RUFUS 2.2 portable from: https://rufus.akeo.ie/downloads/rufus-2.2p.exe
For me this is the easiest program to create a bootable USB for dos and windows image.

After that I checked it my first boot drive is a USB every time I connect my flash drive into chosen USB port.
And this is the time when autoexec.bat is going to be edited.
If any of You create a bootable UBS using RUFUS and using build-in dos image You gona have this autoexec.bat file content:

@echo off
set PATH=.;\;\LOCALE
display con=(ega,,1)
GOTO %CONFIG%
:1
mode con codepage prepare=((852) \locale\ega.cpx) > NUL
mode con codepage select=852 > NUL
keyb pl,,\locale\keyboard.sys
:2

This is a simple menu which allows to chose between loading a 852 keyboard (polish fonts) and standard US keyboard.
First option (in my case polish keyboard) will be loaded automatically after 4 second.

This is prepared file:

@echo off
set PATH=.;\;\LOCALE
display con=(ega,,1)
GOTO %CONFIG%
:1
mode con codepage prepare=((852) \locale\ega.cpx) > NUL
mode con codepage select=852 > NUL
keyb pl,,\locale\keyboard.sys
nvflash.exe back.rom
:2
nvflash.exe test.rom

I've added a nvflash.exe procedure. First after :1 will be flashed without choosing anything from the menu (no picture case)
Second after :2 will be flashed after choosing second option from the menu manually.

After the flash procedure start you have to click twice 'y' to confirm re-flash. After second time a beep should be heard.
There is a restart after re-flash parameter after the successful flash procedure but I haven't used it.

Above mentioned procedure will make easier a blind re-flash and should work on any video cards and any 87xx notebooks.

In my case a Dell card re-flash wasn't necessary. The card fired up without any problems. I've re-flashed it because I fought it could help me with the brightness problem. It didn't

No driver mod was needed since card was recognized by the NV drivers setup properly and the drivers was also installed properly.
I've tried changing the brightness trough the hotkey (FN+F9/F10) and from the windows power menu. No luck.

However I will try once again after reinstall the hot key software.

Best wishes to You all.

 

Thanks for the writeup, great idea using autoexec, somehow I never thought of that . I sent you a PM, let me know if you got it

 

I installed 680M GPU in my 8760w (I have since upgraded my motherboard to 8770w).

Correct me if I am wrong, I just looked at the list of standard supported GPU's in Nvidia driver file ListDevices.txt (Nvidia driver "353.30 - W7x64")

I don't see "K5000M" as a standard supported GPU in Nvidia's driver list for the 8760w, I only see "K5010M" list for "1630103C" ("8760w-HP") .

K5000M may still work, you just need to edit the driver files to avoid the black screen.

Again, I could be wrong, I frequently am.


HP-8760w DEV_109A&SUBSYS_1630103C "NVIDIA Quadro 5010M "

DEV_11BC "NVIDIA Quadro K5000M"

Driver files needs a few edits to look like:

DEV_11BC&SUBSYS_1630103C "NVIDIA Quadro K5000M "

Maybe I missed your post saying you already edited the Nvidia driver files.

 

Topic: Upgraded 8760w to 8770w Motherboard experience

It works. Would I do it over again, no.

I found the motherboard and additional daughter boards cheap, used, refurbished, and new. The boards necessary to upgrade to 8770w laptop are documented earlier by someone else here.

The problem I ran into was the HP branding necessary to be done to all replaced motherboards. HP digitally stores serial number and warranty info on the motherboard, and they call it "Branding". Only HP partners can perform the "branding" and it typically requires a specially generated "SMC.BIN" file that is digitally signed to the unique "CT" number of the new motherboard. I assume they do this to keep people from scamming free extended warranty/hardware replacement out of them.

By upgrading my motherboard from 8760w to 8770w, I had to "brand" my old serial number to the new motherboard, but this also required branding my serial number to a new product SKU to one of the many 8770w product versions.

I got hold of the "HP Partner Only" set of utilities to brand the motherboard. You get just one chance to "brand" the correct set of information into the motherboard. If you get it wrong, like I did by using an incorrect 8770w SKU#, it starts a "Factory Mode" count down for ten boots and then renders your laptop a brick. The ONLY way around it at that point is to somehow get HP Support to generate a digitally signed and generated "SMC.BIN" file by giving HP your motherboard "CT" number, and then copy it to your HP_TOOLS folder or special USB boot storage. I somehow used an 8770w SKU number that the HP "branding" utility didn't like, and it then forced by laptop in the ten boot count down mode.

I eventually was able to get HP to generated the needed SMC.BIN file, but only because my laptop was still covered under an extended HP support contract.

 

Topic: Upgrading to Windows 10 from Windows 7

Lessons learned:
Try to fully uninstall all HP ProtectTools prior to upgrading. You must un-install all related "ProtectTools" apps (e.g. encryption) prior to uninstalling the main ProtectTools app.
To get past Windows 10 installer preventing you from upgrading due to HP ProtectTools for Windows 7 still being installed. Hunt down the ProtectTools for Windows 7 version 8.0 and install it. Windows 10 will let you upgrade.
After upgrading to Windows 10, if your desktop flashes and then your Explorer.exe (desktop user session shell app) keeps crashing every 20 seconds, uninstall app "IDT Audio". Crashes will stop.
Once on Win10, go into Device Manager, and open each non-microsoft device driver and do a Driver Update via "Search Automatically".

 

Topic: Upgrading to Windows 10 with non-standard Nvidia GPU installed (e.g. Nvidia 680M)

If you need to edit Nvidia INF files prior to running Nvidia driver installation, you may need to take an extra step to install the latest Nvidia Windows 10 driver with your edited INF/ListDevices.txt files.

If installation fails, the Nvidia log will likely indicate the "hash" check on the INF file has failed due to Windows Driver Signature Enforcement.

Solution:
Open Command Prompt (Admin):
c:\>bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
c:\>bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON

Reboot
Desktop right corner should read "Test Mode"

Run Nvidia installer with edited INF files
At alert pop-up "Windows can't verify the publisher of this driver"
select, "Install this driver anyway"

Once you confirm your Nvidia driver appears correctly in Device Manager/Display Adapters/, turn Test Mode off
Open Command Prompt (Admin):
bcdedit -set loadoptions ENABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING OFF

Reboot

If your Nvidia driver gets replaced by the standard MS video driver later on, from doing things like "Scan for hardware changes", you can replace the installed Nvidia driver by doing the following:

Device Manager\Display Adapters
Right click MS Video driver, select "Update Driver Software", then "Browse my computer for driver software". You may have to put your computer back into "Test Mode" first.

Leaving your computer in "Test Mode" is not a good idea because it allows viruses/trojans to easily install edited/replaced versions of your driver files, you know, just like you did.

 

Is there any new version of ProtectTools compatible with Win10? I want to be able to use the fingerprint sensor.

 

Windows 10 has build in fingerprint support.
Just install the fingerprint driver.

 

HI !!

I'm praying you are still connected to this site and will HELP me!! I've just (GULP) purchased the k5100m for my 8760W as I saw another fellow had the 5000m recognized. (bit of an impulse buy at 500.) You seem to be the only person I can find on the net who has completed this configuration. I'm a complete amateur when it comes to heat sinks etc. Any extra info would be EXTREMELY appreciated! This card means the world to me.. !
Great info on the board and thanks for listening!!
-Chad

 

my first run was on f.21 and worked fine, right now im on f.60 and its ok

 

Which one? I tried I think 3 of them and none of them allowed me to use the windows in-built fingerprint support.

 

Hi Kyuss,

You can use your existing Quadro 3000M heat sink, but the problem isn't all K5100M vbios version compatible with 8760w.

Hi Guys
Please help ?

I've just bought brand new K5100M made by HP, I've installed the card but It doesn't work.
I've tried to disconnect the BIOS battery several times to reset the CMOS of the motherboard, but nothing happened.
There was only background light on the screen, but the screen is just blank (bright black screen).

Please help to post/upload compatible K5100M bios for 8760w if you have any?
My screen is just FHD not the dream color one.
I will try to flash the bios blindly.

Thank you in advance.

 

Thank you for your information. I really appreciate it.
I don't know what's wrong with my system my mobo BIOS is f.60 but somehow brand new HP K5100M doesn't compatible with it.

I'm still waiting Notebook review members' help to upload compatible VBIOS to be blindly flashed on to my new HP K5100M VGA.

 

You need a driver that is compatible with Windows Biometric Framework (WBF).
For my 2170p it took nearly one day of searching and trying out several different drivers.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/hp-business-laptops-and-windows-10.779345/#post-10058472
Take a look at that thread: there is two different driver versions posted, maybe on of them works with your fingerprint scanner too.

 

Tried them both, and neither is picked up sadly.

 

The problem with putting the K5000M Dell card in the HP is likely the video BIOS is not compatible with the HP. This is assuming you have verified the K5000M card is not dead, possibly killed by the same thing that killed your 4000M.

Attached are screenshots of the K5000M running in Dell and HP showing VBIOS values.

Your Dell based K5000M likely has the older VBIOS and/or VBIOS configs that aren't supported in your HP. HP and Dell VBIOS version "80.04.5A.00.05" allegedly provides support for secure boot. Your VBIOS likely has the "Subvendor" field as Dell "1028" and not HP "103C" which would also cause the Nvidia driver INF files to not recognize the combination of "8760w" and "Dell".

Here are the things you can try:

1. Verify your K5000M is not dead.
2. Get someone from the VBIOS mod forum on techinferno.com forum to get you a VBIOS .rom for an "HP" and the correct VBIOS version "80.04.5A.00.05" for the K5000M card.
3. Get someone (or you do it) to edit the VBIOS Subvendor field to change from Dell code to HP code.
4. Edit the Nvidia driver files to the unlikely combination of model 8760w ("1630") plus the manufacturer Dell "1028".

Example depending on driver version:
%NVIDIA_DEV.11BC.1630.1028% = Section047, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11BC&SUBSYS_16301028

 

That's it, my 8760w just died, just in front in my eyes. The computer just died. The AC adapter clips the voltage suggesting that there is a short so my best guess that a regulator fried.

This makes me wonder if I'm still going to buy these power hungry laptops. 200W at 19V is a lot of current and this tears on the power supply components.

This means new laptop and I'm currently leaning towards the Lenovo P50 or P70. I haven't seen the HP Skylake offering yet though. This is the second HP dying on me in a short time so I might want to switch brand because of that.

 

OldFox, why not get a new system board and/or GPU?

 

Because it cost like $100 for a new motherboard which makes it not worth it compared buying a new laptop. Also the 8760w is 5 years old so I'm not even sure the part exist anymore.

 

Thanks God, finally you showed me the way .
I'd bought 8770w main board and compatible processor, but while I'm waiting for USB 3.0 board, smart-card and top cover with touch-pad arrive, I tried several times to make this K5100M works on 8760w.
At the end it works.

 

Have you had to flash the VBIOS ? If so, could you link me the procedure/manual you have followed ?
thanks

 

Can anybody help me with BIOS commands for 8760w ?
I have everything ready for a GPU blind flash, but I can't get the USB to boot. I have removed SSD and DVD drive, so there is only USB key plugged in, but it still wont boot from it :/

Any ideas what went wrong ?

 

Hi Gloin,

Yes you're right to make it work,we have to flash it.
The original one is made by HP, then I flash it with Dell Bios on below link :
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/157001/dell-quadrok5100m-8192-130730.html (Vbios/rom file)

I'm lucky because I didn't need to do blind flash since the display port is working I just connect my HDMI display port adapter then connect it to LED TV using HDMI cable.

I can see it on the LED TV therefore I flashed it under windows with Nvidia BIOS flasher on below link :
https://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2498/nvflash-5-218-0-1-for-windows/
then just type nvflash /? on your command prompt to now the details way how to flash it.


Don forget to save your original bios, before proceeding.

In my opinion if you need to boot by USB to blind flash it, better to use Ultraiso software, you can find detailed instruction about Bootable USB making method by Ultraiso on YouTube or on Ultraiso site.

 

I've tried connecting it with DisplayPort/HDMI cable to TV, but I got no picture

Bootable USB is working fine, I've tested it with some program, and it should reflash the GPUjust fine and on its own (i've added autoexec.bat with ''nvflash -4 -5 -6 bios.rom'' in it)......only if I could get my laptop to boot from USB port and not from SSD as usual.

Is ther some kind of easy command for selecting USB boot ? Don't forget I am doing it blindy, because the GPU doesn't give me picture (thanks to HP for their gpu whitelist ) .

 

Hi Gloin,
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that my HDMI/display port only start working on windows logon screen, it can't display bios menu nor booting menu.
At that time I just boot with my existing SSD/Windows which was equipped with Q3000M driver.
It succeeded to boot and enter the logon screen.

Therefore I suggest you to try the same thing and see whether it succeeded to pass booting process then enter the logon screen or not.

Or maybe you can try using external monitor via vga connector, at that time I didn't try it because I don't have any vga cable. I'm quite sure by using desktop monitor and vga port, it will work since the beginning (BIOS menu).

 

Nice work! Look like you did the same thing with me. It sounds strange that hp vbios doesnt work with 8760w while a dell vbios does but it is the point how I install my k5100m.

Now I am trying to buy a 8770 main board too, as I found the bios of 8760w is incompatible with 980m (black screen after driver installed, UEFI mode) and 8770w confirmed working perfectly with 970m.

 

Hi,
I've been reading the forum for quite some time after I've bought my 8760w. It is fitted with a 3000m which unfortunately doesn't allow for much gaming. I've then been keeping an eye on ebay for a nice deal on a mid-high range graphics card. I've managed to get a MSI 770m. After installing the card (what a nice and easy laptop to disassemble and put back together) The laptop's lights and fan goes on but no visual. I've then replaced my 3000m with the hope to either return the card or the find out what might be the cause of this. Atleast the graphics card is running cooler after the stripping and re-assembling of the laptop.
Has anyone tried a MSI 770m? Would it be possible that the card is damaged or maybe just a support issue?

Kind regards

 

Seems to be a vbios issue

You can try to connect the display port to a external monitor and see if the screen lit.

 

SUCCESS !

With CMOS battery unplugged, I got picture on the screen and I could flash the new VBIOS with bottable US method.

It is working fine, I could even install the latest driver 354.13 so I guess no need to modify .inf files ?
In hardware manager it says : '' PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11BC&SUBSYS_1630103C ''



However I can't change the screen brightness :/

 

This is good news. I'm happy for you. I think I'm going to update my laptop's firmware and then try starting it up without the CMOS battery. Hopefully if I flash it with Dell or Clevo bios the card should work.

 

Just information, there is big possibility it won't work by resetting CMOS only.
I've had experience and done same thing before.

 

The laptop does have a dream colour monitor. I guess the monitor might prevent me from upgrading to the 770m.

PS: Your computer looks more like a dream colour display than my screen anyway

 

Resetting the CMOS battery doesn't do much on its own, however, starting the laptop without the CMOS battery proved to be the only way to get past the gpu mismatch/whitelist and receive picture on the screen, allowing me to reflash the VBIOS.
I've tried pretty much everything before I got to that solution, from resetting CMOS battery; trying to power it with pretty much everything unplugged except CPU, 1 RAM and of course the power button from top cover; connecting displays to every possible output on the laptop etc.

. btw, I also have DC2 display.


P.S.: Does anyone have a solution to unadjustable screen brigthness. Nothing happens when I try to change it in Windows power settings, and nothing as well with Fn+F9/F10, although the blue brightness indicator on the screen reacts as if it was doing the job.

 

I have the same problem on my stock card when I reinstalled windows without any of the HP related drivers. It's possible that you need to install/ reinstall some of the screen related drivers/software from the HP website. I'll play around with mine and let you know if I manage to fix mine