*HP EliteBook 8760w Owners Lounge*

Ha3 when I bought it, I didn't choose dream color display because the display assembly can't be equipped with WWAN antenna, thus I chose Full HD one.

Just need to edit the inf file, the consequence by editing it, the driver become unsigned one, therefore you need to set your windows to "test mode"

 

So if I understand correctly, ater editing an inf file, the driver becomes unsigned and disables brightness control ?

I can't change brightness even after modifying the inf file.

 

You need to set your windows to "test mode" to allow unsigned driver to work.

 

So I've tried starting the laptop without the CMOS battery (770M back in). Same thing. When I press the power bottom the following lights come on: power, calculator, internet explorer and (wifi&sound -yellow). after a second the wifi turns to white. After about 3 more seconds the fan ramps up quickly and turns down. The hard drive can also be heard but there is no sign of the screen turning on and also not through the VGA connector.

I'm now going to flash the BIOS first to Dell, then Clevo and then back to MSI to see if I can get it working. Since I'm out of thermal pads/paste I can't put my old card back in to set the boot priority to USB. I'm therefore going to just unplug both my hard drives and leave the DVD-rom empty with the hope that a USB boot will follow.

 

No success. I'm thinking of selling the card again cause I have an option for a dell k4000m at a good price locally.

 

I have been lurking these forums for months but I decided to create an account as I have modded my 8760w and I can try to help others out as I work on laptops, desktops, and servers for a living (and worked on hundreds of 8770w, 8760w, 8560w, 8460w's and their respective "p" models as well)

I bought my 8760w Dreamcolor from my work about 5 months ago for an absolute steal at $450 with the following specs:

17.3 FHD Dreamcolor display 1920x1080.
Intel i7-2630qm @ 2.00GHz
8GB DDR3 PC3-16000 single slot
256GB SSD Sata 6GB/S
AMD Firepro M5950
Blueray drive.

I have since added an another 256GB SSD replacing the Blueray and a 1TB 7200RPM, upgraded to 32GB RAM and upgraded the CPU to the i7-2960XM @ 2.7GHz.

Today I just received my Nvidia 680m MXM 3.0 card (For Clevo laptops) and I am waiting for the HP Nvidia heatsink but I just had to test out the card. I removed all the screws, palmrest and heatsink pretty quickly and popped in the 680M and I put the AMD heatsink on top and held it down so it wouldn't overheat too much so I can quickly test it.

And what do you know...the 680m with the Dreamcolor display posted perfectly and loaded straight to Windows 10 Pro without any issues at all. I did not install any Nvidia drivers as it has the AMD drivers but there was no tearing, distortion, or any graphical errors besides being set to 1024x768 on the Standard Video drivers but loaded just fine on a Elementry Linux live USB drive. I did not do any vBIOS modding or anything.

The video card I got is here http://www.ebay.com/itm/171937377957?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I think Clevo cards don't have issues with 8760w's as Dell does like have been reading on here.

I will report on the progress of when the heatsink comes in and I attempt to install Nvidia drivers on Windows.

 

Hi, just an update. I've sold my gtx 770m on ebay as it was not supported by my 8760w, no screen output on any channels and the laptop did not want to boot. I've acquired a K4000m from a Dell 6700 and after installing it, the laptop runs on perfectly. Quadro drivers installed without any mod needed. I get 27 FPS average in shadows of mordor on ultra settings 1080p.

 

Hope to see if the 680m supports DC2 well. It would be great if you can show us how this machine handles the 2960xm. I am not so optimistic on the cooling when 2960xm is at full load, especially when the GPU is also stressed.
I got my 8760w DC2 at low price as well ( 2820qm, 12Gb ram, Q 4000M, 320hdd, for 390 USD) and might also upgrade the GPU. I am thinking of going for K5000M which is similar to 680M, hopefully with full 10 bit support.

 

Still not working

I've tried installing an older driver but nothing helps

 

My heatsink came in and I installed the Nvidia 680m on my 8760w with Dreamcolor and it runs great. I did have to modify the nvmi.ini file so it can be recognized, issues did arise as the Nvidia installer will recognize the card but every installation will fail beta drivers included. I did disable driver signature enforcement but every restart to normal mode will disable the driver, so I ended up typing BCDEDIT /set nointegritychecks ON it in command prompt but when I tried to force the driver install in Device Manager I would get Windows found driver software for your device but encoutered an error while attempting to install it.The hash for the file is not present in the specified catalog file. The file is likely corrupt or the victim of tampering. So my last resort was enabling test mode and it worked great. I disabled the watermark and everything works amazingly. As long as you are a cautious user and are computer literate I highly doubt you will get any malware that can bypass as a malicious driver.

 

Hello everybody

I have a nice sample of 8760W nonDC, quadro 4000m and i7-2820qm system bios F.60
so, i have a question-can i replace my old video card with newer one, ex. quadro K4000m/K4100m/5000/5100 or gtx family without any vbios mods(simply put new into and run it working)
which manufacturer's cards can match me without problems? dell?, clevo?, etc because HP own its very hard to find and prices not so good for me(((

THX everybody for answers ))

 

I am going to test Dell k5000m in 8760w DC version. I heard that you need dell vbios for non-DC 8760w. There are some refurbished dell k5000m cards selling on ebay (160-180 each) btw.

 

An update: the Dell k5000m runs perfect on my 8760w DC. vBIOS Ver: 80.04.5A.00.05, plug and play, no inf mod needed.

 

Hi! thanks for info, does it with k5000m display brightness setup works OK? or you have some problems with it? in this thread, one (or more?) of members had a problems with brightness level.
and what do you think about non-DC displays with Dell quadros(k4000m/k5000m)?

 

Hi! can you share me links with 150-180 each Quadros on Ebay(I am living in Estonia, and if I purchase from USA I must pay import taxes for it(((not so good, so i thinking about buying from EU countries.

 

Did you open the vbios in GPU-Z? In the subvendor field, does it say Dell, HP or Nvidia ? I'm looking for HP VBIOS 80.04.5A.00.05, because I could only find an older vbios when I was reflashing dell's k5000m with hp vbios.

 

brightness is fine, the same as q4000m. Hotkey functions are normal. 10bit color functions as expected too.
Not sure about the Non-DC though. It may or may not be PnP but somehow you will make it work.
btw I am using win8.1 (UEFI)

 

It shows HP.


link to the .rom file: https://app.box.com/s/inbiuu0v3q1wtvus21gkaeznmlrkw45l

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw..._salic=1&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1

there are a bunch of 180usd sold recently

 

hello! i have won from Ebay k5000M dell's own for 190 $, refub, so to deliver it to my country without taxes etc i must wait 1-2 months in EU it's to hard find nice K5000M refubs for 350 EUR (400$) and more... so waiting for it)) and post later my experience here.

Sinitar, can you tell me about temperatures of GPU k5000M in 2d and 3d gaming(or 3d modelling if you not a pc player=)) with comparsion of old 4000m?
my 4000m haves about 42-45 celsium in 2d web broesing, and about 75-80 in gaming.

Update- one more question, have you modded/edited the GPUs heatsink to put corretly k5000m into 8760W?

 

Hi jotm! I was gone for very long. I was stucked in a place without Internet...
Everything works fine with 4000m. I did flash on Dell, before putting a card into HP.
If you nedd 4000m i have two spare cards .

 

For me the temperatures of those two cards are very similar, K5000m might be a bit cooler(may be due the repaste). During 3dmark run it hits 70C while after extensive gaming it's ~78C. There's no need to change the heatsink. You just need to swap the x bracket.

 

I've swapped 4000M for Dell's K5000M (which came with x-bracket on it), no need to change heatsink, just rearrange new thermal pads and repaste. Of course, I had to reflash it hith HP's vbios.

P.s.: I managed to get the brightness control to work - with latest K5000M driver from Nvidia - 354.13, which installed without any need for modifying inf file, everything worked fine except brightness, which was stuck on max.
Then I installed 341.81 from HP's driver download site, and everything works like a charm. However I had to modify the inf file - If you need any help with that, let me know.

About temperatures - I am getting about 10°C lower temps on gaming, but I think that's mostly because of repaste, the old card was in there for more than 3 years of moderate use.

 

Thanks a lot!

 

Hi!

It will be very good for me(and for other members i think), if you shall write here instruction how you did it step by step about modding INF file, for correctly working brightness and hotkeys

I am still waiting for my sample of K5000M - very late delivery, about month more waiting....

Thanks

 

I'm kinda humming the Happy song right now. I salvaged an 8760w today.

It's hard drives were literally torn away and slot 1 hdd connector was broken. Ram was removed and laptop was thrown into recycling bin. Suprisingly not much external damage, just battery flew away on impact.

I fixed the hdd connector with superglue and it works! Then added 4GB from my stash, 250GB ssd and 500GB hdd. Now it's installing Windows 7.

i7 2670qm, 4GB ram (left under the keyboard), Quadro 3000m, 1080p standard display.

I've planned buying one for a long time, to be my desktop replacement. Noticing the silver spine with "Elitebook Workstation" text in the bin was a lucky streak.

Now I have a good collection: 8760w, 8560w DC, 8470p and 2170p.

 

I've just retired my 8710W and picked up an 8760W, which appears to be running the (original?) F.27 BIOS.

Is there anything I need to be aware of before updating this, like with the 8710W? Is there anything worth updating for? I see you can't downgrade once it has been updated.

Got Windows 10 running without too much hassle, took me a few tries but I found a driver that works with Windows Hello for the fingerprint reader

 

Hey, not an 8760w owner but thinking I might be one soon. I see I can pick them up refurb under 600 just wondering if it's worth a buy in 2015 or if I'd be better off getting something off the shelf. Looking to do some 3D illustration and video/music production, not a hardcore gamer but would be nice to play some. Don't got a lot of money to blow.

 

Hi
are you interested in nonDC 8760W, i7 2820qm and quadro 4000m 16 - RAM?

 

Seems to me your applications require some CPU power, better get 8770w.

 

Hi there,

Sorry for late answer..... download driver from HP website (not Nvidia) and follow this guide http://null-bin.blogspot.si/2015/08/how-to-modify-nvidia-notebook-driver.html

 

K5000M is in my plans also, altough not in the immediate future.

Have any of you tried running multiple monitors with 8760w+K5000M? How many is supported?

I'm using the advanced docking station that has with two 24" monitors. 2000M in my 8560w and 3000M in the 8760w neither support three outputs. I'd be happy with two externals in the dock and internal display with K5000M.

I'm asking this because yesterday I docked my 2170p that has Intel 4000 GPU but I could not get three outputs working. Then I did some searching and apparently having LVDS panel prevents using 2+1 displays.

 

Damn, the temps after a repaste with AS5 are incredible:

After half an hour of Furmark CPU+GPU...

Now I'm starting to doubt the planned purchase of the k4100m, since my main issue with the 8760w, the temps and noise, appears to be solved...

EDIT: Meh, the temps in idle haven't changed much, the CPU is still around 50°C and the GPU is still around 45-50° as well, but the fan starts way less often now.

 

Hello, have you tested it in the end?

 

Could you give a link to HP's k5000m's vbios, please?

 

Okey, so I rolled the dice and ordered a 8760w NON-DC i7 etc and a new 980M 4Gb for a Clevo.
Will report back with results as I get it and tested the combo. No loss if it doesn't work.

Been looking for a portable 1000 USD/EUR 980M rig. This is what I want, if it works. Do not like the Gigabyte, Asus etc LED space ships with sub-par build quality.

 

Hi elevul, a few pages back, fellow forum user sinitar has linked HP's K500m VBIOS. As far as I know, this is the latest version. I hava flashed it onto my K5000m, and it works fine.

 

Im thinking about selling my HP 8560w for the 8760w. I have always had 17 inch laptops until this one and I like the Idea of the extra hard drive bay. Gonna have to keep an eye on them on ebay.

 

I warmly recommend also getting a Docking Station as well, it makes the HP business laptops so much more comfortable to use.
Let us know how the 980m works on the 8760w!

Thank you!

 

Id like to know how the 980 works as well. That would make this laptop awesome. Thats the only let down so far is the stock options for video cards.

 

Yeah, know all about these laptops. Had a 8770w maxed out, 2xSSD in RAID 0 with a K5100M. Had several 8730w, two 8740w and now the 8760w in the mail. Did not see a reason to go for the 8770w as the CPU is more than enough for what I need it for on the 8760w.
Had the 230W Advanced Dock. Still have the standard dock laying around for the 8760w I am getting.
Will of course get back with results. It's a bit of a lottery if it works, heard mixed rumours about the Kepler GPUs on 87x0ws.
Thought about going for the 8740w first, but then I remembered how completely useless the cooling was in the 8730w.

Putting this together to be able to get a smooth VR gaming solution on the road as I am going to be unemployed most part of 2016.

Oh and FYI, As part of what Glorin said above, the vBIOS will always show HP if put into a HP machine as part of the vBIOS is loaded from system BIOS. That is why the hardware string gets messed up and requires customized .inf drivers.

 

Lighting is off, way too yellow. That's my 8560w with the advanced dock in HP Laptop and display stand AW662AA by Ergotron. I've been hunting for one a long time, usually they are found overseas with silly shipping prices. This time I found one for 65 euros, brand new unopened box, in my hometown (no shipping). It took me roughly 5 seconds to decide and hit the buy button.

That's actually 2x24" (HP LP2475w) and 32" on the desktop computer. Other plans.
I'm going to replace the 8560w with the 8760w I recently got, just haven't had time to do it yet.

It's amazing how much more space the stand gives, the few cm underneath the laptop is usable space now and it makes a huge difference vs. laptop+dock consuming space on the desk. I would definitely recommend that, if anyone of you come across one cheap enough.

 

Good news! The 8760w works out the box, no fiddling with the 980M 4Gb Clevo-version I got. Will update this post with a proper test and pics in a few days when I got the x-bracket and new thermal pads.

EDIT: See picture.



Cannot really get UEFI boot to work though.. really annoying. Seems to be booting in legacy mode and it still works. Interesting. My previous 8770w booted flawlessly in UEFI mode, can anyone enlighten me if the 8760w lacks the same support? No option in BIOS for UEFI modes like Native, Hybrid etc.

EDIT: Nevermind, it seems the 8760w was released just before native UEFI mode was available. Looks like HP laptops after 2012 have full support.

 

Nice, how are the temperatures?

 

Will update within a few days, still need new thermal pads so I do not want to push the card to thermal limits. Normal use (No flash video) kept the card at 41C with an ambient temp of 21C.
Assume its going to be well within the limits as it has the same TDP as other cards designed for the cooling solution.

EDIT: Okey, it was not as straight forward as I thought. The GPU itself maxes out at 87C but the laptop shuts itself down after 10 minutes of stress test of that temp continuously.

Just took everything apart and reapplied new paste on the CPU as well even though it never reached above 80C. Added another layer of thermal pads as I believe they did not have proper contact at 1mm. We'll see now if 2mm solved the issue.

EDIT 2: That fixed it. 2mm thermal padding and no sudden restarts anymore.

So, 980M works in a 8760w after stress test for 20 minutes. GPU maxes out at 87C (ambient 22C) and the clock keeps stable at 1050MHz. The boost will only be able to keep 1126MHz for about 10 minutes before it starts throttling.

 

Nice. Isn't that expected though? AFAIK 980M is quite similar to K5000M, which being one of the supported GPUs for the platform, should provide native microcode support from the BIOS of the mobo.

P.S. How many of the folks here use DC displays? If someone who's done a proper upgrade from non-DC to DC has a few minutes to chat about the details (mobo compatibility with the DC panel, mobo models, panel models etc.) I'd really appreciate it if he/she PM'ed me - if we ever cross paths, the first round is on me

 

No, it's not. They are three generations apart. K5000m = 680m and is Kepler, the 980m is Maxwell and just now came the Quadro version, which is M5000M. As for the DC, I just posted in the 8760/8770 DC upgrade topic on the matter.

@Rideass - Nice work!

 

Damnit, forgot that without the UEFI boot mode RAID arrays cannot be used for boot devices.
Has anyone a workaround for this? HP support just ignored my question when I pointed this out on my 8770w I had. Same problem with the 8740w after the latest BIOS updates and one cannot downgrade to where this wasn't a problem. Should never have updated the BIOS, sigh.

I think the only fix is to have HP rework the BIOS for the whole Elitebook line, they do not seem to want to do that. I promise you, you can try this yourself. Build a RAID 0 array and try install any OS. Its not going to work if stuck with legacy boot mode. Only option is to run UEFI Native or hybrid boot mode on the 8770w. That option does not exist with the 8760w.

 

The EliteBook's BIOS is really messed-up and as you said, they don't seem to be willing to fix it. The 8740w wont deal well with AMD GPUs, because there's something wrong in the BIOS. That's of course not of their concern, since these machines are never meant to be upgraded, just quick-swap of a faulty part. Also 8740w has a partial UEFI as well, I guess they could add full support if they wanted. On another note, there's a new BIOS for the 8740w - F60. I can't test it with RAID, but you might want to give it a try.

 

Thanks triturbo, going to sort that problem by simply using the third SSD as boot device and still use the RAID as installation. Riskier, but hey. Not like HP is going to fix their mistake for a whole laptop line.

EDIT: Interesting how the 8760w BIOS is gone from the HP drivers page? Only the 2011 one left.

EDIT 2: Raised this with HP again. Updates to follow in perhaps two months or so.