*HP ZBook 14 Owners Lounge*

Thanks.

Regarding SSD, I did a bit research and the major options seem to be:


Samsung 850 Pro: 1TB for 566 euro, 512GB for 337 euro, on the expensive side

Samsung 840 Pro:no 1TB option, 500 GB for 265 euro, still a bit expensive

Crucial MX100: no 1TB option, 500 GB for 189 euro, seems to be price-friendly

Crucial M550: 1TB for 415 euro, 500GB for 192 euro. I probably cant afford teh 1TB option but 500GB option seems affordable.

In sum, I think I will probably choose MX100, 500GB. Is Samsung 840/850 Pro that good that it is worth the price difference.

By the way, I also plan to upgrade the RAM as well. I found this one on amazon

Samsung 16GB Dual Channel Kit 2 x 8 GB 204 pin DDR3L: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubehör

Just want to make sure it is the right one.

 

You may want to check the price of SanDisk Extreme Pro - available in 480 and 960GB formats - where you are.

MX100 is a fine drive, as is M550. Both of these are good performers for the price.

Happy shopping.

 

Unless you're engaged in enterprise computing or require a hash cash disc, a the "pro" level drive will be way overkill. You will likely never realize its maximum potential. Nevertheless, there are more practical ways to maximum performance in your computer. Increasing ram (up to 16GB) for example, would be a much more practical and useful upgrade. Still, if money is no object it certainly wouldn't hurt to have all pro drives.

The limit at the time.

 

The Samsung 850 pro will be really overpriced.. Look at the Sandisk Extreme Pro.. For 500GB, it should be like 200-250 Euro.. Here in the UK, 1TB Extreme Pro is like £300 while 850Pro 1TB is £450++...

Also MX100 is a budget SSD and hence cheap.. It uses MLC memory so at least it doesn't use TLC junk like 840 series.. MX100 was only made with 512GB as max while M550 has a 1TB version.. Again, I'd suggest buying according to your needs.. If 512GB: Sandisk Extreme pro/MX100

If 1TB: 960GB Extreme Pro/M550..

 

Thanks. I will buy MX100. I will also buy it from amazon.de instead amazon.co.uk because euro is dropping so fast...

 

By the way, why is the screen so weird? What should be white is now a bit yellow. I had my previous X220 panel and another LG external display connected to X220, both sitting next to ZBook 14.

Is it because the poor quality of the Zbook 14 panel?

PS: I have the LG panel for Zbook 14. (Actually, I had a replacement for the Zbook 14 a few days ago because of a scratch. I remembered that the panel on that one is also a bit yellow. That's why I kind of wonder maybe it's display issue instead of software issue. Or maybe the factor calibration are all biased in one direction?)

Edit: I have an HP onsite service today because of the screen. The staff changed my original LGD040A panel with GSM59C8. I asked the service because the display really looks yellow-ish. I have an LG TV connected to Zbook 14 and another X220 display. The difference between the 'white' of Zbook 14 and that of LG TV and X220 is very obvious. Also, the Zbook 14 display looks a bit dimm. It's like I have turned the brightness to maximum, except that I have.

The strange thing is that the GSM59C8 panel looks almost the same yellow-ish and not bright enough. It makes me kind of wonder whether this is specific to HP's taste of white or my other two displays are both incorrectly calibrated.

Edit: I finally realized that the tan tint is 'normal' for the display. So, basically, not sure what to do now. Other than the screen, this machine looks fine. Shall I purchase a screen and replace it myself?

 

Hi, does anyone know whether this machine support booting from usb 3.0?

I made a backup of my system using Driveimage XML and made a clean install to test one of the drive issues. When I tried to restore the previous backup, Driveimage XML told me that it cannot resotre to a system partition.

I found online that the solution is to boot the computer from another source other than the partition to be restored. I wrote images to usb 3.0 drives like I did in old days and changed the boot options in bios. But it just cannot detect the usb boot drive.

Is it supposed not to work?

 

Hi guys, I am a recent owner of HPZbook14 . Have none of you noticed any heat issues . The main source of the heat is from the HDD located right beneath the arrow keys . I reported this to HP and they changed the heat sink, which they initially thought was the problem but the HDD was also replaced. I still find it quite warm!, not 35C

 

Before I put a SSD into mine, the HDD did get warm and I could easily feel a warm spot under my palm when typing. I changed it out to a SSD and haven't felt that since.

 

I recently found this web site from HP, it might be useful to some of you: HP's advisory page:
http://h20565.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/public/psi/advisoriesResults/?sp4ts.oid=5403903

 

^ I read up on one of your previous posts and I believe you had the same issue. I am surprised not many users have reported it. I thought mine was a faulty unit, perhaps most users have replaced it with SSDs.

 

hp support say i need wait over mouth for new motherboard for zbook, any one know i have other option then wait ?

 

My company recently deployed a ZBook for a client, and we swapped out the drive it came with for a 1TB Crucial BX100 that works quite well.
Sent from my Lumia 1520

 

Can someone clarify how the keyboard backlighting works? I've read that the light doesn't actually shine through the key symbols, but just around the outside of the keys. Is this correct? If so, it sounds kind of useless (and unfortunate).

 

It might depend of the country.

Mine is fine (France):

 

Could someone evaluate the 900p (touch) screen, please? In terms of gamut, viewing angles, graininess...

 

Please help!!! Zbook 14 bad function hybrid graphics 3dsmax, workstation?? Or not???

Someone help please me, I am in a dilemma, I teach modeling and 3d recently I buy an hp workstation zbook 14, I try to use to teach the program Autodesk 3dsmax,

two weeks ago that fight against the computer to put everything in place, it seems that the 3dsmax never uses the video amd fire pro, there is no point then?

If one can well use this program in this laptop please tell me your settings because I'm very frustrated and about to sell a laptop with just two weeks ...

thanks

 

The best way to make it work using the fire pro is to run Windows 8.1 and the latest driver updates from HP. If there is still an issue, get the ATI driver for the zbook from ati.

Then, use the 'configure switchable graphics' option found on the desktop with a right click. Ste your desired program to High Performance and let me know how you go.

Cheers

 

Thats It by Mabs.sign posted Mar 24, 2015 at 5:29 PM

thanks for the help but, it's what I do and always presents the same problem error, always the same message... and I get stack it doesn't starts no more, if anybody are using the software please try to help me, because with the latest drivers from HP, dont work...

 

Hello guys, I have a question for you.
I am an owner as well, but I would like you to verify or not my concern.
I think (actually I do listen) a buzzing sound from the fan of my laptop. It is not always clearly audible but you can do the following test for me.
When the fan is working please attach your ear to the right/left of the touchpad, on the palmrest area, and try to check if you hear a weird "mechanical/buzzing" sound caused by the fan.

I would very very much appreciate any responses from the owners.

Regards,
Imelde

 

Anyone here tried Windows 10 on their ZBook 14 yet? Just curious about battery life.

 

License reserved, but not yet tested. But one guy at my work is using Win10 since the preview version, and it doesn't seem to impact battery life too much.

 

i made a clean install on my g1 zbook 14 and i am not satisfied at all. Even there are some drivers on internet i have these issues;:
-battery is around 20% weaker than on Winsows 8.1
-a lot of issues regarding sleep. It is corelated with video drivers.
-switching between internal display and external monitor is not working if zbook is on port replicator through display port. With VGA is ok. I think that even all three things are related with video drivers because i notified various battery capacities while i was tried with different video drivers.
Also win10 recognizes Firepro 4100 as Radeon 8500.....

 

With me everything except sleep works. I have the latest BIOS 1.32 and HP has posted the FirePro Win10 drivers at their support page at http://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=5403904&swLangOid=8&swEnvOid=4192

With me the computer never wakes up properly from sleep. The display stays black and nothing works. I have to reboot the computer and a Kernel dump was generated in c:\windows\minidump. According to BlueScreenView the crash was caused by ATI Radeon Kernel Mode Driver atikmdag.sys.
I have upgraded from Win8.1 but clean install wasn't any better.

The exact same problem I had with Windows 8.1 about a year ago and I then had to resort to rather old drivers to make it work. I still haven't tried the Win8 drivers, maybe I should. I can't understand why HP releases all those drivers without testing this Zbook 14 model properly. Do they even care??

 

same here. Let us know if anything changes.....on 8.1 i had experience that combination of particular intel and amd drivers worked flawlessly, before that i had similar problems also on 8.1

 

I enabled hibernation and that works. Takes maybe 10-15 seconds to hibernate (SSD) and restoring is about as slow/fast as reboot. The real downside is that the hibernation file eats several GB.

Windows 10 allows using graphics drivers that conform to any WDDM level, so one could try Windows Vista/7/8/8.1 drivers, but I can't really be bothered to experiment. With earlier WDDM versions you'll lose DirectX12 and some other features but that shouldn't be a show stopper for anyone until DX12 enabled applications start to surface...

The whole AMD FirePro part is surplus to my requirements - I do all my work with the Intel graphics and I've configured Windows to use Intel always - so I cannot say how stable the FirePro is under games, CAD or other graphical productivity software like CC.

I'd like to also rephrase my earlier wording "With me everything except sleep works.": I have no Smart Cards and I don't have the 4G option installed, so can't vouch for them. I also had to remove HP Client Security Manager along with HDD encryption for the Win10 upgrade and there is no official Win10 version available from HP. I read on another forum that HP has promised a Win10 version by the end of August. I also had to uninstall the old Win8.1 Validity fingerprint software after upgrading and I let Windows update the software by itself. After that the Windows 10 fingerprint login started to work, but it's not of course as nice as the preboot security offered by HP.

 

Well, it's working for me now!

1. I uninstalled the Intel drivers at the Programs and Features (I had downloaded the Intel supplied Win10 drivers at intel.com but they didn't make a difference, and were the exact same version provided by Windows Update anyway)
2. I disabled the automatic driver update feature in Windows 10
3. I uninstalled the Intel driver in Device Manager and rebooted - afterwards Windows identified it as "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter".
4. I installed the Windows 8.1 Intel graphics driver revision '3621 W 22 AUG 2014' (sp68390.exe). It warns that you're about to install earlier versions of drivers, but that's ok. The download link is http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp68001-68500/sp68390.exe
5. After reboot everything seems to be all right and sleep works as it did with Win8.

There are newer Intel drivers but those particular drivers are the ones that worked with Win8 too. The later ones all had the sleep problem.

I also feel that the working drivers have made the laptop cooler and the battery lasts longer, but can't be sure.

 

what about AMD driver? what version do you have installed?

 

The AMD driver is the Windows 10 driver supplied by HP.
With Win8.1 I had the same problems - only a specific Intel driver version worked whereas the AMD driver version really didn't matter.

PS. I'd like to add that the only permanent way to deny Windows Update installing the latest nin-functioning Intel graphics drivers is to let it update the drivers at any point, and afterwards deny the update with the wushowhide.diagcab tool.

 

Do I need this had drive kit, to fill a sata III drive space, or hp provides it even when there is only PCIe SSD?

 

I have a 2.5" SSD so can't confirm but I'm 99% sure that you need to buy the caddy.

In any case that part is wrong for Zbook 14. The correct part according to the Spare Part list is 730793-001.

 

I thought, I got the right product. It also have 730793-001

 

i have tried with 8.1 intel driver solution and sleep now works also battery life has improved only thing that still doesn't work is connection to external display through 2013 ultraslim docking station with display port. It works only if you boot it with lid closed, however you cannot change back to laptop screen. With VGA is ok.....

 

hp has provided new driver. Has anyone tried it yet?


http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/...28311&swItemId=ob_154771_1&swEnvOid=4192#tab1

 

today is also newer Amd driver

 

I'm using the latest video drivers off AMD web site, latest intel video drivers off HP web site. My docking station works best on the older firmware 2.20 and have tried the newer ones but my screen doesn't always come alive after waking up from sleep mode. The older firmware works flawlessly, even though some black screen issue have been fixed on the newer docking station firmware, that hasn't been my experience.

 

if i have latest drivers even without docning is not working normal

 

Hey there. Owner of first ZBook 14 here (i4600u with IPS FHD display, 16Gb, 250Gb SSD).

I was wondering a couple of things. First of all, I undesstand that the correct size for the m.2 port is 2260? Also, this is a PCI-e 2x port, not a regular mSATA port, right? I've read a bit but doesn't seem so clear. Also, what is the best option here? What I want to do is to get the best possible 500Gb m.2 SSD here for the system, take the 2.5" out and install it as a second SSD on my desktop, and get a 2.5" 1Tb Samsung 950 Evo here. Has anyone tried this? Does anyone have suggestions for the m.2 drive? Will I need a kit to install the 2.5" Samsung or, since I already have a 2.5" drive there, will it fit directly?

On the other hand, I've been looking into purchasing a 4G internal module on Ebay. I am not sure which one, since there seem to be two different models, and both seem to be 4G compatible? Also, how easy is this to install, just insert into the slot and connect the two little cables?

I also have the UltraSlim docking station, working OK now on 8.1, have there been any significant updates on W10 funcionality with the Z Book 14? I'd just like to know whether I'll have a stable system if I upgrade to W10.

Thanks!!

 

do not update, you will lose sleep and display port is not working ok on docking.

 

Sleep has been fixed by Intel but M$ will remove those drivers for you as soon as you install them....

 

tamarinde: for me sleep works only if i lower amount of ram for intel in bios.

 

The m.2 port can fit a 2260 card, but HP has not soldered a screw hole for a 2260 card. You can only screw a 2242 card in. If you try to install a 2260 card you'd need to e.g. glue it down. The port is just SATA, not PCIe. The laptop can use both a regular SATA drive and the m.2 drive at the same time. There is no fastening screw in place so you need that one too.

The 2.5" drives are of standard size and so are the screw holes. So you can just replace the HDD inside the caddy with the SSD.

There are two different 4G modules for Zbook 14, the lt4111 and lt4112. Since LTE (4G) is not a single standard you need to pick the one based on where you're going to use it. The lt4111 is for US market, and the lt4112 is for Europe/Asia/Pacific/Japan markets. The 4G card is easy to slide in - the difficult part is snapping the two antennas securely into the card without breaking the connectors. The official HP kit comes with a tool to make it easier and safer but it can still take a few minutes. Afterwards you'll just need the drivers - I've seen Windows 10 pull the drivers from the net automatically but you can also download the drivers from HP. HP has their Connection Manager software for Windows 7, but it won't work with Windows 8 or 10. It's not a mandatory install in Win7 since you can connect without it if you know what you're doing.

I'm using the dock without issues though with a single external display with DP-DVI connection. No problems with that and I don't know the firmware version of it. Do note that HP has made more than 1 type of docks so YMMV. I recommend installing Windows 10 on a separate HDD and testing it for yourself whether you'll have problems with the dock.

I'm using the latest Intel drivers (from HP) and AMD drivers (from AMD) and things work well. Occasionally (at least once a week) Windows popups with a message that the Intel driver has stopped working and has recovered. I've seen the very same message with other laptops without switchable graphics and there are some registry tweaks that should put a stop to it, search for "tdrdelay intel".s

 

The m.2 port can fit a 2260 card, but HP has not soldered a screw hole for a 2260 card. You can only screw a 2242 card in. If you try to install a 2260 card you'd need to e.g. glue it down. The port is just SATA, not PCIe. The laptop can use both a regular SATA drive and the m.2 drive at the same time. There is no fastening screw for the card so you need to get that one too.

The 2.5" drives are of standard size and so are the screw holes. So you can just replace the HDD inside the caddy with the SSD.

There are two different 4G modules for Zbook 14, the lt4111 and lt4112. Since LTE (4G) is not a single standard you need to pick the one based on where you're going to use it. The lt4111 is for US market, and the lt4112 is for Europe/Asia/Pacific/Japan markets. The 4G card is easy to slide in - the difficult part is snapping the two antennas securely into the card without breaking the connectors. The official HP kit comes with a tool to make it easier and safer but it can still take a few minutes. Afterwards you'll just need the drivers - I've seen Windows 10 pull the drivers from the net automatically but you can also download the drivers from HP. HP has their Connection Manager software for Windows 7, but it won't work with Windows 8 or 10. It's not a mandatory install in Win7 since you can connect without it if you know what you're doing.

I'm using the dock without issues though with a single external display with DP-DVI connection. No problems with that and I don't know the firmware version of it. Do note that HP has made more than 1 type of docks so YMMV. I recommend installing Windows 10 on a separate HDD and testing it for yourself whether you'll have problems with the dock.

I'm using the latest Intel drivers (from HP) and AMD drivers (from AMD) and things work well. Occasionally (at least once a week) Windows popups with a message that the Intel driver has stopped working and has recovered. I've seen the very same message with other laptops without switchable graphics and there are some registry tweaks that should put a stop to it, search for "tdrdelay intel".s

 

Sorry for the duplicate!

 

Thanks for the replies guys! I guess I'll look out for youtube guides when I get the 4G card, VilleH. The ones on ebay are marked as original but I have no idea whether they supply the mentioned tools. Also, I suppose guess a 2262 will do with some thin doublesided velcro or something similar.

 

hi there,
switched to win 10 with my zbook 14 and now facing the problems with the dvi port via slim dock and i'm not able to get my mobile broadband running! i tried every driver but installation do not run! hsdpa are in the device manager filed under com ports. any solution out there?
thx.

 

also problem with display port and sleep

 

Did you upgrade the firmware while on Win7 or 8?

 

no, didn't. just read about that. is it the only way? and does it work?