My HP 8510 needs replacing

specs are X-9000 , 8 gb ram , ati 2600 256 mb and 640 gb hard drive . What would be a decent replacement ,. Needs to be HP as I have advanced docks at house and office . Are the new quad cpu in the 8570 that much faster than the last gen in the 8560 ? Or should I look at dual cores instead ? What about vid card , which to get , no games , just C A D And video editing and encoding .
And last but not least , how are the screens ? I know no more 16:10 , what res screen to get o the new models, anthing to stay away from ?
Thanks

 

Thanks , looks like dell precision is on the way then , if I need new docks no point in sticking with HP

 

Dell M4600/M4700 and Lenovo T520/T530/W520/W530 offer switchable graphics options with their NVidia dGPUs to extend battery life. HP's 8560W/8570W are dGPU only with comparative poor battery life. The Dell/Lenovo also offer mSATA slots so can add a fast tiny boot SSD to the system without altering the primary HDD or optical drive. HP offering nothing similar.

Do note too that if you are running a X9000-3.06 in your 8510P then it can have it's multipliers unlocked using Throttlestop, allowing overclocking up to the point of thermal instability. Could be an option to extend the working life of your 8510P a little longer to allow Ivy Bridge systems to establish a foothold in the market. We are just seeing a trickle of them now.

Eg: There are example X9000 overclocked up to 4.0Ghz. A E0-stepping X9100 can be made to work too if do a 266->200Mhz BSEL cpu pinmod. They run cooler so usually provide higher overclocking potential. I've seen a X9100-E0 overclocked past 4.2Ghz by a HDX9000 user.

 

I'm undervolting now with RMclock , so I should dump rm clock and get throttlestop and overclock ? Might be an idea , do you think I'll gain real world performance gains , noticeable I mean ?
Will have to research , if not to difficult might give it a go

 

Absolutely. The X9000 is reknown for it's overclocking capabilities and it's a breeze to do that with Throttlestop (TS). TS can also undervolt the system and uses less CPU cycles than RMC for monitoring. That makes it better for battery life. There are other battery life improvements you can do, example here.

If not overclocking then you could offload the X9000 for a T9500-2.6 + leftover cash . They can be dual-overclocked to 2.8Ghz, same as a stock X9000. If prepared to do a PLL pinmod (maybe software overclockable too?), then it can reach 3.4Ghz+ too. In which case could look at a cheaper T9300/T8300 to do the same. HDX9000 owner's showing what OCs are possible. See http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/515212-hp-hdx-9000-dragon-owners-lounge-part-2-a.html .

REF: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-bios-hdx9000-87x0-85x0-6x10-27x0p-25x0p.html for dual-IDA bios + overclock details for a 8510P.

It makes sense to extend the 8510P for at least the next few months so can see more Keplar/Ivy Bridge/Thunderbolt-eGPU technology released. Egg: we've yet to see the Ivy Bridge Macbooks.

 

I really like the 8510p/w.

Does the x9000 (2.8 GHz) work in an 8510p, with a standard recent 8510p bios, right out of the box?

How hot does it run?

 

Yes, a X9000 Penryn is compatible with a 8510p/w so will work out of the box just like a T8100/T8300/T9300/T9500.

However if you want to absolute max performance via unlocked multipliers using Throttlestop then you'd want to get a E0-stepping X9100 and BSEL pinmod it from 266->200Mhz to run on a 8510P. A X9100 cpu defaults to trying to set a 266Mhz BSEL which the 965PM chipset will not accept without such pinmods. Details are in http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...intel-gl960-gl40-useful-info-pll-modders.html .

RickiBerlin did a comprehensive comparison titled temperature comparison between X9100 "QHBQ" and "SLB48" on his 965PM-equipped HDX9000. He's currently running his at 4.0Ghz where it runs 26 degrees cooler than the C0 at full load and is slightly faster. See his comments. I believe a X9000 is the same silicon as the X9100-C0 stepping since it too runs considerably hotter.

 

yes , I'm running most recent bios , runs much cooler than t7500 it replaced

 

not sure , but I think I have f-20 bios , am I screwed ?

 

pre-F.20 is desirable if you have a non Xtreme CPU like a T8100, T9300, etc for the dual-IDA +200Mhz overclock, plus other features like SLIC 2.1 and no WWAN/wifi whitelist. Only way we know you could go back to pre F.20 is via a bios eprom programmer. Can thank HP for craftily limiting the possibilities with these systems with the F.20 release.

A X9000's overclocking ability isn't affected by F.20. You simply fire up Throttlestop, unlock multiplers and up the voltage until you hit the thermal stability limits. From all accounts you should be able to have a stable 3.6Ghz overclock.

 

Wow hit 3.49 at 17.5 mult with voltage of 1.15 with rm clock ! yikes might keep this laptop with 16:10 screen a bit longer . Wil test to see how high I can go ! yeeehaw !!!
and 66.0 c 0r 59.6c depending on whick prog you trust

 

more tests , at stock does TS bench 32m between 42.6 and 43.38 at 16x 37.58 and 37.76 at 17x 34.87 and 33.98 .. on rm clock it gives cpu core clock 4.356and throttle 3.39 , what's the meaning of the 2 speeds ? Is 8-9 seconds on the 32m calculations that much of a boost ?

 

For comparison, TSbench 32M sees:

[email protected] = 30.78
[email protected] = 32.82
[email protected] = 35.12
[email protected] = 40.25

17x is 3.4Ghz=33.98 so I'm surprised it's a little less than the [email protected] = 32.82. I'd also suggest using Throttlestop to do the overclocking rather than rmclock. It has less monitoring overhead so better performance on AC and better battery life on DC. Maybe it can get you a better result?

Or else try 18x, 18.5x, 19x, 19.5x, ... with higher CPU voltage and monitoring of temps.

 

Maybe I should have shut down my browserrs and other crap running , will test again with nothing running 18.5 it shut down bsod , but had vid at 1.19 , so will try with more voltage

 

The newest HP business line notebooks are the biggest jump in terms of design and feel from ones like yours IMO. I've owned nearly every 15 inch HP business line laptop as you can see from my sig. I like the new ones a lot, but they are definately a lot bulkier and the 16:9 just isn't the same as 16:10. You can grab a 8530w on the cheap off ebay for $250-$400. Its a great machine. I past mine down to my wife. And don't worry about buying off ebay; I've bought every single one of my past machines and current machine from there. Just buy from someone with good feedback.

 

Thanks , picked up an 8530 from e bay , $230.00 it has the T 9600 CPU now 8 gb ram , your right great machine , 16:10 screen is reason I will not buy new laptop .

 

jerry66 sorry to break this old thread open but how did you get 8GB into the 8510p? According to the HP website, it's max 4GB.

 

If your guess is right, that would be good news

Thanks, I'm going to give it a try then!

edit: one other question, what about the other requirements (speed)? The HP site says max. PC2-5300, 667-MHz, DDR2