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    Why pnp HyperX won't work for HP Probook 4530s?

    Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by timohour, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. timohour

    timohour Notebook Consultant

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    IT SEEMS LIKE THE PROBLEM IS BIOS UPDATES BY HP. ALL THOSE WHO HAVE UPDATED AFTER F.0A HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.

    I AM GOING TO TRY GET MY F.20 BIOS BACK TO F.0A.

    Can somebody help me with that? :confused:

    A friend of mine send me this

    "Alright, so after a week of waiting the new Kingstong pnp ddr3-1600 came in. The Ones recommended with the proper product number. The let down, Windows 7 did not recOgnize it as 1600.

    My question now is how do I make my computer recognize it?"


    Since at first I didn't actually believed him I flashed my 4GB memory @ 1600 and although SiSandra read it as 12800 memory it only works @ 667 (1333MHz) !!! :eek:

    [​IMG]

    I guess this has something to do with HP???

    Is this something that we can do to override this problem? My laptop has an i7-2630QM and his an i5-2430M. It is not only a Windows problem since we tested it on another OS not allowed to discuss here. If any specific steps need to be taken to enable 1600 (or 1866 ) pls advice...

    Thanks for looking.



    EDIT:Another problem that had my Probook 4530s is that I can't flash or read memories using Thaiphoon Burner although Turbodude!!! told me that thaiphoon burner is compatible with sandy bridge laptops. His answer on my problem is below and I add this because I think now that it may has something to do with my problem

    Yeap, as I expected SMBus controller is disabled by the manufacturer of your notebook. The trick is to change some bits withing LPC Bridge bytes to make SMBus controller visible as a device. But this trick is undocumented. You can ask somebody at this forum how to enable SMBus controller Where should I change this bits???

    Thanks for all the help. (for the record I used another laptop to flash my memory)


    Flashing problem solved thanks to nando4.

    In order to enable SMBus driver the easiest way is to run SetFSB. I used the freeware version. After running it once I was able to read my memory modules using DEMO Thaiphoon Burner or EVGA SPDtool.

    Still looking for a solution on the 1600MHz or 1866MHz memory...
     
  2. zaanton

    zaanton Notebook Guru

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  3. timohour

    timohour Notebook Consultant

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    Siorah Beware of Squirrels!

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    yep, the hp's are locked to a 1333 FSB, whatever ram you put in, it will go to this speed.

    They should really state this in the specifications, but oh well.

    Sio
     
  5. timohour

    timohour Notebook Consultant

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    The Elitebook 2560p works with 933 confirmed by vnwhite. Is it only an HP Probook problem maybe? And why is it that I can't read or flash memories?
     
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    batmemo Notebook Consultant

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    pfff thats bad news.I realy want to buy one kit 1866mhz pnp for my girfrend probook.but now will go with normal ram
     
  7. timohour

    timohour Notebook Consultant

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    Kingston says:

    PnP implementation is only possible in configurations that
    include a BIOS that supports the PnP function. Your maximum
    speed will be determined by your BIOS.


    I send them a question though...

    Since it is a BIOS issue, is there any way to find out a way to add this function?

    It is an Insyde Bios though so we can't really find an easy way
     
  8. timohour

    timohour Notebook Consultant

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    Any solutions yet???
     
  9. dav_jw

    dav_jw Notebook Guru

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    I do not have a solution to your problem, but if all SB CPUs really support 800Mhz memory, I can confirm that the Elitebook 8460p is also capped at 667.

    (I use 2x4gb of AData XPG (AXDS1600GC4G9-2) )
     
  10. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Can you advise what bios versions you guys are using? The 8460P thread talks about the SATA-III capability being turned off in the most recent bios. I wonder if the 933Mhz RAM speed has also been disabled in later bios versions? HP have made it impossible to downgrade your bios to an earlier version if your running F.20 or newer. One solution to downgrading is to e-solder the flash eeprom and program it with a SPI USB burner. Still need an image of the older bios to do that though.
     
  11. dav_jw

    dav_jw Notebook Guru

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    I recently downflashed to F20, because of the Sata-II cap. F25 and F22 versions do not work with SATA-6gbs. Neither F25 nor F20 recognize my RAM at 1600.
     
  12. timohour

    timohour Notebook Consultant

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    I bought it used with F20 so I don't know if it will run @ 800 or 933MHz on earlier version. I will try to downgrade to earlier ver. and post back. Thanks
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    The HPQFlash utility won't allow downgrade below F.20. In the 2560P thread some users are saying only the very first F.01 bios supported 1866Mhz RAM.

    The way you could try to get the first bios onto the system is to get an 4530s image off someone with a bios older than F.20, then downgrade back to F.01. Would require a similar process as outlined in Flashing F.01 bios to a 2560P .
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Confirmed at Performance: running 1600, 1866 or 2133Mhz DDR3 RAM in a 2560p. Only bios F.01 on a 2560P supports RAM with CAS higher than 9. Works all the way up to CAS=13. F.02 only uses the CAS=9 SPDtable RAM entry. HP's changelog made no mention of this and anyone who has flashed F.20 or newer will have a hard time getting back to F.01.

    4530s owners curious to try faster RAM may note 1866/2133Mhz RAM gave a 20-54% boost in iGPU performance over 1333Mhz RAM.
     
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    zaanton Notebook Guru

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    Atavism Notebook Enthusiast

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    I find the last sentence in blue below the table very odd. "NOTE: Maximum memory capacities assume Windows 64-bit operating systems or Linux. With Windows 32-bit operating systems, memory above 3 GB may not all be available due to system resource requirements. Due to system limitations, DDR3-1600 MHz memory will only be supported at DDR3-1333 MHz." Considering that it makes no sense that Win32 would have anything to do with frequency limitations (or am I missing something?), are they literally saying: the different speeds in the table are just for fun, you'll only get 1333?
     
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    jayjr1105 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Any light at the end of the tunnel? I had BIOS F.0A on my 4430s Probook, read 1600 RAM perfectly, then updated BIOS to F.20 and now back at 1333. This is absolutely ridiculous that they would yank the capability of anything higher than 1333 especially when iGPU greatly benefits from faster RAM.
     
  18. daitern

    daitern Notebook Guru

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    Mine 4530s has also Bios F.0A and I will never update it cause they are offering us more of a downgrade indeed... So which type of ram you have 1600 ?? I was interested in this
    Corsair Vengeance SODIMM 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C10 1866MHz SODIMM Kit (CMSX8GX3M2A1866C10) [CMSX8GX3M2A1866C10]
    What do you think ??
     
  19. jayjr1105

    jayjr1105 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I bought an 8gb G.Skill kit for $37.99 on newegg and they work well. What are your WEI scores with that BIOS? One thing I noticed when I updated the BIOS was that even though my ram downclocked to 1333. My graphics scores both went to 6.3 from 6.1 which was a pleasant surprise.

    Sent from my SGH-I897 using Tapatalk 2
     
  20. daitern

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    Mine is 6.0 for graphics but I dont have an ati chipset so I am stuck on my internal Intel HD3000.... Your G.Skill kit consists of 2 x 4gb sticks right ?
     
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    Yes, 2 sticks totaling 8GB. It is 1600 speed but only runs at 1333. And I don't have an ATI chipset either. I'm running on the 3000 graphics as well.
     
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    Hmm I definetly won't update my bios for sure....
     
  23. timohour

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    Nando4 has made an experimental guide on how to flash your bios back to the original.

    If someone can provide me his full 8MB bios ROM, I am willing to try flashing my bios following the guide