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    i7-740qm vs i7-640m Battery Life

    Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by tilhasbb, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. tilhasbb

    tilhasbb Notebook Consultant

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    Hello Guys,

    I am debating between
    i7-740QM, 16G Ram, FDH Screen, FX 1800M.
    Funny HP says 5hours 30min battery life

    OR

    i7-640M, 16G Ram, FDH Screen, FX 1800M.

    My main concern is battery life. I am reading that the i7-Quads do not have an onboard video so it will always be using the power hungry FX1800 and I travel alot.

    anyone have either othese laptops can tell me battery life?
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    i7-740QM is a Clarksdale cpu built using 45nm tech. It's rated at max 45W TDP.
    i7-640M is a Arrandale cpu built using 32nm tech. It's rated at max 35W TDP. It also has an IGP onboard.

    The i7-640M should therefore consume less power. Moreso if the system has switchable graphics so can use it's IGP.

    If you want a Quad core AND an IGP or switchable graphics then look at Sandy Bridge notebooks.

    Consider too a DIY ViDock to add graphics capabilities to systems without such an option. Can be made portable enough to carry around.
     
  3. Maru

    Maru Notebook Consultant

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    The 8540w owners thread has a datapoint. Several different battery configurations are possible (Primary: long-life[3yr, many cycles] 68Wh, standard[1yr, faster charge?] 73Wh. Optional attached external: extended (+52Wh), ultra (+95Wh)). This datapoint is with the 68Wh long-life:
    The 8740w Benchmark thread has some data which may be useful:

    1. The 620M comes with a dual-core motherboard, which only has two dimm slots. 16GB RAM is currently significantly more expensive for a two-dimm motherboard (need two 8GB DDR3 dimms) than the quad-core motherboard.
    Siorah has gotten an 620M to work in a quad-core motherboard with four dimm slots, though it only recognized 16GB RAM on a 32GB system.
    Update on the 32GB
    8740 AND 8540 Memory Configurator

    2. Siorah has reported similar numbers for the 8740w (not 8540w), after swapping a 620M into a 720QM system.
    The times should be low compared to a 8540w system because
    - the 8740w has a larger screen
    - the 8740w has a Quadro 2800M, not a Quadro 1800M.
    - the 8740w with 620M was measured on a quad-core motherboard with 4 dimm slots, not 2.
    But shows roughly how much difference it may make.

    Code:
    8740w battery times summary:
    
    CPU Model:	720QM	620M
    CPU TDP watts:	 45w	 35w
    
    Idle minutes:	135min	157min (+22min)
    MP3 minutes:	118min	134min (+16min)
    DVD minutes:	 98min	111min (+13min)
    BD minutes:	 83min	 92min (+ 9min)
    
    Collected 8740w Owners Benchmarks Data: Battery Times
     
  4. knight427

    knight427 theenemysgateisdown

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    Also, I don't think the 8540w can use the IGP.
     
  5. tilhasbb

    tilhasbb Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks everyone!

    I know the processor QuadCore uses 10Watts more but what concerns me more is the videocard power draw. If the Dualcore can disable the nvidia videocard which uses 45Watts on it's own.

    So surfing the net the Dual core would use 10+45 = 55Watts Less than the Quad.

    Is that true? if so the battery life difference should be significant.
     
  6. Maru

    Maru Notebook Consultant

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    Will you be using 3D while on battery? If not, consumption will be less. If you plan to mostly use battery to read email or text without video/animations, notice that the Quadro 1800M only uses 3.8w when idle (PowerMizer, EnergyStar).

    The 1800M does not support Optimus.
    NVIDIA Quadro Mobile Solutions
    No Optimus means that in order to use both the 1800M and the IGP, the notebook manufacturer would have to provide a switch on the motherboard so that either the 1800M output or the IGP output could be wired to the internal screen.

    I believe the 8540w only wires the 1800M to the screen, not the IGP.

    (As I understand, for notebook+GPU combinations that support Optimus or equivalent graphics switching, the GPU result memory image is copied back to the IGP memory, and only the IGP output is wired to the screen. That additional copying also uses more power, so Optimus might be less efficient if you frequently use 3D while on battery.)
     
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    tilhasbb Notebook Consultant

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    I didn't know that about the GPU.

    HP EliteBook 8540w Mobile Workstation (ENERGY STAR) (XT970UA) specifications - HP Products and Services Products
    I'm leaning towards this model now.

    i7-740QM Processor (1.73 GHz, 6 MB L3 cache)
    8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 SDRAM (I'll add another 2 DIMMs of 8G for a total of 16G)
    320 GB 7200 rpm SATA II
    DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL LightScribe
    15.6" diagonal LED-backlit FHD anti-glare (1920 x 1080)
    NVIDIA Quadro FX 1800M graphics with 1 GB dedicated GDDR5 video memory


    I currently have a
    i7-620M
    Nvidia Quadro 880M
    8G Ram
    256GB 7200 RPM HD
    DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL LightScribe
    15.6" diagonal LED-backlit FHD anti-glare (1920 x 1080)

    and I about 2hours and 30minutes of battery life on it.

    I'm hope to keep atleast 2+hours with the Quad core..
     
  8. tilhasbb

    tilhasbb Notebook Consultant

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  9. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    I will use that program
     
  10. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    Anybody at home? I installed that Battery Bar however I do not see where I can find information about how much power I use.
     
  11. tilhasbb

    tilhasbb Notebook Consultant

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    Click the battery on the bottom left and it will tell you charge rate
     

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    James D Notebook Prophet

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    Yep. I needed to turn AC off first
    56-57 using furMark (gpu)
    27-28 idle + browser
    how can i stress CPU without prime95?
     
  13. tilhasbb

    tilhasbb Notebook Consultant

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    Unplug and leave on balanced. and do nothing. put it on 50% brightness and see how much usage it is using.
    for me it is 19,000mw