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    nc2400 2nd HDD Caddy, SSD compatibility? Performance?

    Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by glemmy, Jul 5, 2012.

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    glemmy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have an HP NC2400 which I have added an optical bay drive caddy to, two years ago or so. It currently has a 120 GB SATA 5400rpm disk inside.

    I would like to increase the performance a bit (I have 2GB RAM and I guess doubling it costs quite much, if it's possible at all). It tends to be very slow when I run a lot of programs and want to start a new one or switch between them.

    The main thing I would like to speed up is a software I use a lot which sort of "gets a string from a database, writes another string to the database and then gets another one" (not the best of explanations, but it's irrelevant :) I think it has a lot to do with the access time of the disk)

    A decent SSD doesn't cost that much today.


    What I wonder is, can I insert a modern SSD into the caddy and expect good performance?
     
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    See http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...orage/531052-1-8-zif-pata-ssds-available.html . There are ZIF SSDs there as well as comparative 2.5" SATA SSDs in sata-to-pata caddy performance data. The best performance seen so far from Indilinx Barefoot SSDs (OCZ Vertex 2). A SSD will see significantly faster 4kb read/writes than your current HDD.

    Also note if your caddy is having it's write performance handicapped if running as slave as described in INFO: Undo the slave PATA 30MB/s sequential write speed capping.

    Before you invest in your SSD/caddy, I'd recommend pricing up a HP 2530P or Dell E4300 as a replacement system solution. These both have a SATA subsystem for their primary and optical drives so give (1) better battery life due to SATA power link management and no sata-to-pata caddy overhead (2) AHCI's NCQ for much faster multi-queued 4kb read/writes and (3) the system is faster and more efficient overall.

    A NC2400 has no LED-backlit LCD and has very slow GMA950 graphics. Even a 2510P would be a good upgrade with it's X3100 graphics and LED-backlit LCD. They can be had for very low $$ these days.
     
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    glemmy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for a great reply!
    1,8" SSDs are rather pricey, especially per gigabyte. I furthermore feel it would be a rather short-term investment (probably can't and won't move it to my next computer/laptop).

    I'm currently checking if the write performance is capped. Great piece of advice! :)

    Upgrading the whole system is not completely out of the question. I'm drooling over the new Ultrabooks with weights below 1,5 kg, thin and high resolution screens. But, it's a bit over my budget :)
    2510p, E4300 seems like great computers. A company in Sweden sells them refurbished with warranty for 250-320 Euro and they probably go for less on eBay.
    But, they still have the 1280x800 screen resolution which is kind of a deal-breaker for me. Not sure what to do :rolleyes:

    What's the next step if I want something portable (14" or below), as light as possible, higher screen resolution and decent performance for less than, let's say, USD 500/EUR 400? Should perhaps post a new thread in another forum :)
     
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    In the US you might be able to get a Lenovo X200s/X201s, Lenovo X300 or X301 or Sony Z11/12/13 with high res panels for within your budget. Import or local pricing in Sweden might push it outside of your budget.

    In which case I'll once again recommend a 13" E4300 or 12" HP 2530P as excellent ultraportables to tide you over until newer tech becomes affordable. A 2530P can host a mSATA SSD using a mSATA-to-microSATA adapter so can line up your SSD for future use and betters a E4300 with a 93Whr 9-cell option (9hrs+ of battery life).

    Both have 1280x800 LCDs which are nicer to use than squat 1366x768 in contemporary systems and are dual-drive capable. If are OK with a single drive then consider a 12" Dell E4200, Lenovo X200 or even a 13" HP Folio 13 ultrabook (60Whr battery).

    NOTE: HP has as yet not made a dual-drive thin-and-light successor with high-capacity battery option like the 2530P has. I'm discounting the 2540P since it gets worse battery life, is heavier and gets a worse keyboard than a 2530P.
     
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    glemmy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you! I will check the laptops out.
    I tried out a few new Ultrabooks on COMPUTEX and I must say the keyboard on mine is far more comfortable, same goes with my really old Thinkpad X31 :p

    Meanwhile, what would you say about these results?
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    Since I get similar sequential read speed (@33MB/s) as the write speed it's perhaps the disk that is really crappy?
    It's a 5400rpm 120GB from an old MacBook I think.
     
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    That HDD is very slow so a newer Indilinx Barefoot based SSD (G-Skill Falcon II, OCZ Vertex 2) would be a massive improvement. One of those would get you 2.5 times faster sequential read/writes, 40 times faster read IOPS and boot times of b/w half to a third of what you are seeing now.