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    [Drivers] HP ENVY 15-1XXX (INTEL)

    Discussion in 'HP' started by justinkw1, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. JJB

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    It is not the ATI file, it is the ATI 10.6 alpha version from April, which should have been clear on the link. As for your life history above, whether real or imagined, this is not the place for it and if you think 'life is to short' then why waste all the time typing what you claim to have already done? Seriously, no offense intended, but this is a drivers thread, not an autobiographical or fiction thread ....
     
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    Does anyone know where older BIOS versions can be located? I need to get my hands on F18. I upgraded to F28 and I'm getting power faults. Under F18 I ran Hyper-V with 8 VMs running no problem. With F28 I can't run 4 without bluescreening.

    I have a presentation next week and desperately need this stable. Any help would be appreciated.
     
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    @RicketyCricket

    That is strange, there have been no reported power issues with F 28 so far. Have you tried the 'high performance' power plan? Also I assume you are aware that the CPU gets throttled to ~1Ghz when you are running on battery power, this can also occur when using after market power bricks that do not have the correct 'center pin' connector. If those are not the issue then I strongly recommend calling the HP dedicated tech support number and getting them to provide either a link to the old FTP file for F 18 or they should be able to send the 'flash' file to you somehow, you may have to escalate the issue to a supervisor to get quick action....
     
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    That'd explain some oddities... I'm not seeing any HDMI driver get installed for one. (even after following some song-dance instructions for Dells). I'd seen notes to this extent from some other people on ati boards...
     
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    It was running on the "high performance" power plan when it started. Thinking it was trying to do too much I created a custom plan cutting the CPU and display brightness down but it crashed again overnight.
     
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    @RicketyCricket

    If your using the 120W power supply then no need to worry about overloading anything, you can run all 8 threads at 100%, OC the GPU at 100% (furmark 1080P) and be charging the battery all at the same time, the fans will be loud and it will get quite warm but that is what it was designed to do. HP could never get the UL, CSA and CE approvals if it was not able to operate everything at 100% without failures or heat issues. As for screen brightness it makes almost no difference since minimum is 2W and max is 4W....
     
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    No go on the official ATI 10.6 mobility drivers and a 4830 for me.. even from fresh VGA. It'll work a reboot or two, then I'll get some odd bluescreen "timeout waiting for the display driver". I'm done.. back to 712.
     
  8. Serg

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    IIRC 10.1 or 10.2...but since 10.3 desktop and mobility are both the same...
     
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    Not true it would appear.. I searched the embedded .inf files for PCI bus addresses for the 4830.. You can only find those in the mobility install...
     
  10. Serg

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    Since 10.3 AMD/ATI said officially that both desktop and mobility drivers were to be the same, but IIRC this has been held true for 10.5 and 10.6 (don't know about 10.4)...last ones I installed where 10.6 from AMD's website and it didn't classify mine as "mobility" but as "Radeon HD 4800 for Windows 7 64 bit"
     
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    They must be referring to the binaries and not the installs... cause the embedded inf files are very different...

    (Speaking of 10.6 mobility vs desktop downloads)

    edit: i'll have to reboot, but I couldn't find the 4830 bus address in the desktop install... Odd. I'll recheck

    edit 2: verified.. desktop install does NOT install any display driver on my system.. (and doesn't show one installed). I don't see how it can give my vid card bus address and the supplied inf files.
     
  12. Serg

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    @bfaber

    where are you downloading the drives from?

    Try the link I provided some posts above, you just choose Windows 7 64-bit and Radeon HD 4800 series as the type of GPU you have. It'll download the setup and drivers. Just run those and it should be. I see no problem for it since my computer is running HD 4830 also.
     
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    By choosing 'HD 4800' series, I take it you're hand-pointing a raw vga device at the driver directory?' for the full desktop version (when extracted?)
     
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    Screw it.. $25 paypal to the first person who can give me idiot-instructions that get me to a working 10.6 install on a 4830.. ;)

    (I am a software engineer, but seriously... this install is a mess)
     
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    So are we to conclude that you have not personally successfully installed the RELEASED 10.6 package from the ATI board, but instead that your actual experience in this matter is derived solely from this 10.6 alpha based package prepped by some third party and installed by you on a Gen2, not a Gen 1? Perhaps you didn't understand me. I was talking about the ATI package. I was under the impression the others were similarly having problems with that same package. What you managed with the alpha was irrelevant. My mis take in thinking you had first hand knowledge installing the package we were discussing.
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    Over the years I have found it much more productive to speak directly to someone who has actually done the thing I am trying to do. Accordingly, Serg, if you could throw us a bone by laying out a step by step on how you did it on the Gen 1, I,for one, would be deeply appreciative, and willing to give it one more go LOL.

    seer

    oh, and as for my *overdisclosure*, sorry,
    jeez, and I left soooooo much out ... you are a photographic artist? then might you know of the sculptor Clark Bronson? Spent a lot of time in your neck of the woods. Saved his life once, but that's another story.....
    >wink>
     
  17. Serg

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    Try here: my F18A BIOS uploaded RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting
    "Your file has been saved and can now be downloaded 10 times. It will be deleted after 60 days without download."

    I also have the F07A if someone is interested...lol
     
  18. Serg

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    Sure. I will today re-run the entire process after uninstalling all my ATI drivers and relaunch the process and double check everything is running well and report back.
     
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    A couple of updates now posted that everyone can use. :)

    06/20/2010
    • Updated Intel Rapid Storage Technology (SATA AHCI) to version 9.6.2.1001 (thanks Z3tor).
    • Updated Synaptics TouchPad driver to version 15.0.17.4 (thanks Axel Foley).

    Looking at the lengthy discussion pertaining to the ATI Catalyst 10.6 package, I will not currently be posting these but I encourage continued discussion on it.

    Also just as a reminder for everyone, please try to keep discussion on-topic in regards to Envy 15 drivers and software.
     
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    @Serg

    Awesome! thank you so much!
     
  22. JJB

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    No you are not to "conclude" anything of the sort! If you would actually pay attention and quit rambling on about off topic subjects you might realize (by reading the posts) that I have had all versions installed. Below is a summary of what versions I have 'first hand knowledge' of. And yes I have a gen 2 machine which should be obvious by the specs in my signature. I also explained that many people with gen 1's are running this 10.6 package while others like yourself seem to be having issues....

    I have had the 10.6 Alpha, Beta and the Final versions installed and running without issues other than the lack of some features with the 2 latter versions. FYI the strags.com link does not provide 'third party' modified anything, it has been a very reliable resource that has been able to get the pre release versions of new ATI drivers direct from a 'source' at ATI. In general, ATI has Alpha driver packages which are about 350MB and include all desktop and mobility drivers and options that are compatible with the new driver, these come as a RAR and if extracted and installed correctly, only the drivers and options compatible with your machine will be installed from the package. The past several 'Alpha' releases have been the most stable and higher performance versions for me but they are not WHQL'd. The 10.6 alpha version has all available features; HDMI audio, AVIVO, Hydravision, Drag and Drop video conversion, openGL 4.0 and new GPU hardware acceleration for flash 10.1.

    The 'Beta' versions are generally ATI leaked pre release versions that are, as far as I can tell, just the final versions that are waiting for the final WHQL approval. These packages are generally 70 to 130M and do not load all the above features.

    The 'final' official versions have recently been lacking a lot of the 'extra' features available like HDMI, Hydra, Avivo & D&D. Some of the features are available via a seperate download but for some reason when installed there are no 'controls' in CCC to use these features. This has been the case with 10.4, 10.5 & 10.6.

    Having tried the Alpha, Beta and final versions I am currently running a combination of the 10.6 Alpha version of CCC with all the above mentioned features (with controls in CCC) AND the 10.6 Final (official) WHQL'd Display Driver (v 8.741). All is stable so far but have not had time to run any burn in or benchmark tests on this 'hybrid' install yet...

    I originally did not want to confuse the issue by posting all this since people are having trouble just getting the 10.6 final to load. Also if you look back in this thread there already are step by step instructions posted on how to get these drivers to load on the finicky 4830 gen1 models. I really find it quite curious that someone with all your proclaimed expertise in software design, programing and custom machine builds would even need ask for step by step instructions on installing a driver :confused:
     
  23. HumbleBy(DK)

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    Hm, the new touchpad driver still does not fix the enable/disable feature.
     
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    Maybe its just my eyes, but i don't see in your posts where YOU have installed the 10.6 released version available on the ATI site onto a Gen 1 4830 unit.
     
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    Thanks a bunch in advance Serg.

    Seer
     
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    Justin, my apologies for going a bit afield, however, my transgression was not without purpose. As a moderator, you are fully aware of the desire to maximize the "signal to noise" ratio in any technical forum. Often it is helpful to consider the source of the information being posted. For example, I happen to know what Serg does for living, every day, (well almost every day heheheh) and let me assure everyone, things 'graphics' lies very close to the heart of it.

    seer
     
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    Following up on this item: the issues I had been experiencing under BIOS F.28; bluescreening with Kernel Power exceptions running Hyper-V; are resolved after downgrading to BIOS F.18.
     
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    I'm seeing bluescreens about some 'missing interrupt to some random cpu' or some such with F.28 as well... Usually when resuming the system after sleep mode.
     
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    Goota be with bfaber right now...I just got a BSOD out of nowhere after waking up my laptop (and erasing some software)...had to restore it back...
     
  30. Serg

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    Sorry for the delay...I am having serious problems with my home rental and the owner...if anyone is french around here and knows how this legal system works, please send me a PM ASAP....

    Now back on topic, I am launching driver sweeper now, I'll clean up my ATI drivers and do the 10.6 re-install and report back.
     
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    odd thing...it is running the installer, reporting as installed but not recognizing the GPU now...as if it wasn't even there. I'll try with device manager.

    EDIT: Via device manager I have the some available up to 8.712 (10.3 ATI driver) and the 8.742 (10.6) is not being reported.

    EDIT2: this is the log report after the install: file:///C:/Program%20Files/ATI/CIM/Reports/Report.xml#otherdev
     

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    FAILURE....I keep it running over and over again, even with Win+R it won't grab my GPU.

    Sorry to disappoint you guys...but ATI has beaten me...had to roll back to 10.3
     
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    I am glad you posted that image. This is what I have been trying to explain to others, if you have that list of other drivers showing in device manager then you have not remoived ALL the ATI files. This was the problem on the original attemps to update the first gen 1 machines with the Mobility Modded drivers, if there was any HP original ATI driver on the envy it would reinstall the HP one no matter what as "the most current driver". It was LsRamair who figures out that all traces of ATI had to be removed from the system down to the MS VGA driver, then he was able to force the modded driver to take. IIRC he thought HP had coded the 4830 to only recognize HP approved drivers. It sounds like this may still be the case.

    I would suggest laoding each driver on that list and then, from device manager, uninstall it and choose 'delete from system' (whatever that popup says), do this for each ATI driver on the list until all you see listed is the VGA drver (which obviously you will be using), then run driver sweeper again, then delete all ATI / AMD program folders and make sure you do not have any ATI service packs in your SW setup folder (back up externally if you want to save them). Now I would suggest downloading the Strags.com 10.6 alpha RAR version ( I'm seeing no benefit from the combo I'm running described earlier). Unzip the RAR file into a folder on your desktop and find the ATI install manager .exe file and run it in the 'express install' mode, it will find and load all compatable features that can run on your machine. Bottom line is if you are getting the 10.3 relaoding on a restore then it was not removed completely, you should have gotten the VGA driver loading on restore...

    PS: The driver version shows as 8.741 and it shows as 10.5 in some apps like everst, but it have all the features of the final 10.6 and all the CCC extras that 10.6 final does not include.
     
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    I think the mobility ones will take (the desktop ones I wasn't convinced would, as they have no PCI bus mapping in their inf files that match the exposed interfaces on the 4830)... the question I have is if sleep/resume works reliably (many reports it doesn't) and is there any way to hack hdmi in...

    The installer (ati's AND hp's) suck...

    p.s. Note that if you're connected to the net and get all the way back to vga, windows will automatically start installing some WHQL drivers from back around Sept of last year for the 4830....
     
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    The advantage of the 'alpha' RAR version is that it includes ALL desktop and molbility drivers and CCC options (HDMI, Hydravision, AVIVO, transcoder, GPU hardware acceleration, openGL 4.0 etc.) and the express install goes through and finds all features compatible with your machine and installs them. Why they change this on the final mobility updates is beyond me...

    Note that this works on the 5830, I do not have a 4830 machine to try it on but the above posted method worked for me in the past.

    I guess I took it for granted that everyone turned off the auto driver update feature in win 7 (or HP support assistant if anyone actually kept that ridiculous app), just to make sure nothing loads via the internet I always turn off wifi when updating (and security programs).

    EDIT: Another thing that I just remebered from my 4830 machines is that the difficulty was always updating to the first NON-HP provided version available, after that future non HP updates went smoothly.
     
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    New driver for the USB 3.0 controller is now available. I forgot to post the updated card reader driver from way back when, but now it's up. :D

    06/22/2010
    • Updated NEC Electronics USB 3.0 Host Controller driver to version 1.0.20.0.
    • Updated Realtek USB 2.0 Card Reader driver to version 6.1.7600.30118.
     
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    I tried going back to raw VGA (used DriverCleaner.Net).. no problem there... Tried loading the 'alpha' raw version and got constant driver crash/restart problems... 'Didn't try upgrading the driver to 10.6 final while in safe mode..

    I give up. The software is enough of a disaster its no longer worth my effort.
     
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    Just looked at the new RST update and it appears that it is for a different device ID that is used on the envy 17 (PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B29). The device ID on my envy 15 is; PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_282A

    Anyone try this update on the 15 i5 yet? Not sure if there may be issues or not.
     
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    Sorry to hear that it didn't work for you. Just want to confirm that you tried it by the method I mentioned above; from VGA driver > unzipped the RAR to a folder and then ran the ATI install manager .exe from that folder and chose the 'express install' option ?
     
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    I got back to VGA driver, then went to the unzipped rar directory and ran setup, selected express..

    It installed, but was doing the display driver crash/restart thing. (stuck in a loop as it were...)

    I was thinking on the way into work, if the ENVY can boot from an eSATA drive, i could try a raw windows install for kicks. I'll dig into that at some point out of curiosity.
     
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    I used driver sweeper, erased anything ATI related (and oddly some NVIDIA stuff too) and went to VGA, after reload the PC got the drivers from some internet source over and over again, same for the touchpad, I had to do it via the device manager in order to work properly...
     
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    One thing I just thought of with DriverCleaner.net, I had problems with it at first because I selected all the ATI options to remove including the ATI IGP selection, later, reading the instructions, I learned that this option removes part of the actual firmware of the GPU and that caused the GPU not to be recognized, now I choose all the options to remove except the IGP option and it works great. Not sure if it will make a difference for you but wanted to pass that along.

    OK??? Are you talking about when you previously got the 10.6 working or did manage to get it up and running again? I am unclear as to what you are stating.

    Also it sounds like you may have windows 'auto update' set to automatically download and install drivers or something, I had this issue at first but I forget how I disabled the feature (different from normal win update), just to be sure it doesn't happen I still turn off wifi before ATI updates...

    I also found some Nvidia stuff once and realized it was the Ageia physX demos loaded with 3DmarkVantage...
     
  43. Serg

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    @JJB
    For all the erasing..each time I erased something, a new version would come up and the laptop would report "new driver installed, reboot computer to finish installation" or something like that...for both ATI drivers and Synaptics.

    I haven't been able to run 10.6 again...it worked once strangely but now I am forced to 10.3 only.
     
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    try uninstalling in safe mode with driver cleaner and your internet connection unplugged or turned off.
     
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    06/23/2010
    • Updated links for Synaptics TouchPad driver version 15.0.17.4.

    06/25/2010
    • Changed "HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection" to "HP Mobile Data Protection Sensor."
    • Updated HP Mobile Data Protection Sensor to version 4.0.10.1 (thanks Axel Foley).
     
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    Does anyone here know of an HP Quick Launch Buttons driver that works within Vista 64? I've tried every driver version linked to at the beginning of this thread, and everyone crashes my laptop to a pre windows start screen memory dump blue screen, resulting in me having to reinstall the OS everytime. After installing any of the quicklaunch button drivers (v. 6.50.13.1, v. 6.50.15.1, or v. 6.50.16.1) Vista won't even boot into any of the safe modes.

    Another Note - On the ATI Strags.com Drivers with Firmware F.28

    I originally installed the 10.6 alpha drivers from strags.com on firmware F.21, and everything ran fine. Upgraded the firmware to F.28, and the ATI drivers became unrecognized. Now when I try reinstalling them, the installation application crashes out.
     
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    Not sure why you are running Vista on your envy but maybe that is why you're having problems with F .28 and 10.6? I am running F .28 and have had no problems running any of the versions of ATI 10.6 (alpha, beta or final). I am currently running the 10.6 final video driver (8.741) and the 10.6 alpha version of CCC (2010.0527.1242.20909) with all the features that were missing from the final version (HDMI, Hydra, AVIVO, etc.). Very stable with no crashes or BSOD etc. so far, and I can still get cosistant 10,000+ 3D06 and P6500+ 3DMarkVantage scores...
     
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    I'm also thinking it may be Vista that's at issue. I'm using Vista, because I've yet to figure a stable Windows 7 image customized to my liking. Where did you get the video drivers you're currently using? Is there a link I can go to to get similar drivers, at least in terms of 10.6 final?
     
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    The final 10.6 version is direct from AMD (as all final versions are) HERE, as I stated above this versions CCC is missing some features so I am running the CCC from the Strags.com alpha version which has all the features and controls.

    IMHO your nuts to have any version of Vista running on any computer, especially a brand new envy that came with Win 7 64 preinstalled.... I am not sure what you mean about not finding a Win 7 'image customised to my liking' :confused: Win 7 is pretty much fully customisable right out of the box. There is not one thing that Win 7 does not do better, faster and with less resources than Vista.....
     
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    I, on the other hand, would be surprised if Vista is causing the trouble, as if you check the internal build numbers you will see that win7 IS vista .1 version..sooooo. Furthermore, vista is in some ways faster than win7. Basically they changed the loading order of some of the modules, delaying many so that it *looks* like its loading a lot fasster...classic MS sleight of hand. Oh, and the eye candy..can't forget that. :) In any event, you really have to work to find something that will run on win7 that won't run on vista.

    I like JJB, AM curious tho, why did you wipe the win7 64? Is your Vista corporate pro?

    Lastly, which Gen Envy do you have? If you have a Gen 1 don't feel bad, there are a lot of us who are having real problems trying to get 10.6 to install :)

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