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    [Drivers] HP dv6-2XXX / dv7-3XXX / dv8 / HDX16 / HDX18 (INTEL)

    Discussion in 'HP' started by justinkw1, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. InterFace

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    installed new chipset driver and same thing. RST stopped working. then i updated the driver under device managed manuali and RST works again
     
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    It appears that RST and chipset drivers are closely coupled in terms of functionality.

    Unfortunately, Intel hasn't bothered to work up a matrix of acceptable and functional combinations.
     
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    I am quite disappointed at Intel's response to this issue. Is it possible that they are still unaware of the problem between these two drivers?

    I agree. Intel could easily identify and correct this type of issue by constructing a matrix of drivers for testing them.

    While I keep a full image clone of my primary drive, i sure wouldn't "experiment" with the RST and Chipset updates until Intel states that they have fixed the problems that others have had with these two.

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
  4. PMorgan

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    Careful when you ask such a question, Alan .. :laugh:

    Last time this driver came up for discussion, I seem to recall that we concluded that chipset updates by intel would have to confirm correction of the incompatibility issues with RST before they would be seriously considered for application. Until then, tread cautiously on these!

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
  5. PMorgan

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    Good decision, Peter!

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
  6. windstrings

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    Chipset stuff gets so deep when you start having an anomally with virtually any system it could be the blame.

    Really makes troubleshooting difficult since its not so easily uninstalled/installed on the fly like so many other drivers.

    Seems every time I've installed this driver, its not a new trick or twist you have to do to get it in.

    Here's an example of some notes I wrote for myself:
    Geez, what a pain in the buttocks???

    And for what?......

    I can see taking the risk and the hassle if someone can tell me the benifit?
     
  7. pae77

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    I only took a quick look but wasn't able to locate a change log.
     
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    Z3tor Notebook Evangelist

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    Exactly, Alan, why I ask what the benefits may be! I think it's not a good idea unless there are some. Only twice has anyone identified any benefit for older DV8's here. Hence my advice to tread cautiously!

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
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    Here's a list of recent driver and software updates i've done. I have not experienced much difference in performance, but everything seems to be stable and working well, at least in my machine.

    Atheros WLAN 9.2.0.310
    Broadcom Bluetooth 6.4.0.1201
    Intel Chipset 9.2.2.1015 (WHQL beta)
    Intel Rapid Storage 10.1.2.1004 (WHQL beta)
    JMicron JMB38X 1394 Filter 1.00.21
    JMicron JMB38X CardReader 1.0.57.2
    Nvidia Graphics 267.24 (beta)
    Realtek PCI-E Fast Ethernet NIC 7.041.0218.2011
    Synaptics Touchpad 15.2.7
    IDT High-Definition (HD) Audio 6.10.6324.0

    Lightscribe System Software 1.18.22.2
    Windows 7 SP1 7601.17514.101119-1850
     
  14. PMorgan

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    Glad yours is working okay. Without a performance bump, it doesn't seem like much was gained from all those updates.

    Mine, after a couple of updates (plus SP1 last Dec) to correct misbehavior (crashes) of my display driver, sounds like it runs just as well as yours using essentially only the drivers it came with back in Dec. 2009. IMO, it seems like there's not much benefit to all those updates unless you have added new stuff to your laptop that need newer drivers.

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
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    hkl001 Newbie

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    Hi PMorgan! I am happy that you do not need any updates and your machine works fine either! So all people who are taking care of their machines are wasting only time by updating drivers? Can it be that other guys use machines in a different way you do? And can it be that blue screens need to be avoided by updating drivers and software? I wonder why you have a computer... oh, I forgot: you are able to state comments like the one you did with your machine... and your one is really a big and fast one! Exactly the machine needed to post the comment you wanted to post. Great! Hopefully you do not have the problem to use the machine for other things ... and hopefully you do not use an update then! The guy who has opened this thread belongs biggest respect! He made it possible that I was able to reinstall my hp dv8 the way I did not have any problems then. And something you shouuld recognize perhaps: it is not difficult to take care fo a complete new installation... but it is more difficult that things work the way you want them to work in the way YOU want them to work even after years. This is only possible by updating drivers and software as these drivers and software cannot be programmed 100 % correct as they are too complicated. Even specialists are not able to make a program what works 100 % fine. So please let me know what is the sense of what you have stated in your post. I am too stupid to understand you. Guy from Germany.
     
  16. Kikoo

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    The download links work now.

    BTW, if you want to have acceleration in the upcoming Firefox 4 (and probably IE9 too)
    you need to have relatively recent graphics drivers (June 2010 or newer in the case of Fx):
    Upgrade your graphics drivers for best results with Firefox 4 ✩ Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog
     
  17. windstrings

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    Looks like I"m in good shape here..... allow me to be lazy and tell me some of the goodies FF4 will bring..... will it have 64bit abilities with working flash etc or will it be an upgraded version of 3.63?

    I"ve been waiting for 64bit to get its act together, but if not, I"m sure FF4 will be worth it nevertheless.
     
  18. PMorgan

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    AFAICT, Alan, FF4 is certainly an update of FF3.6 - designed for faster execution and full HTML5 support.

    Seems well worth trying out even though it's a 32-bit upgrade of FF3.6 :D

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
  19. Kikoo

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    Firefox 4 is quite a large update on the outside (UI-wise) as well as on the inside. Quite many long overdue bugs have been finally fixed (some through the introduction of an HTML5 compliant interpreter), there's GPU-supported rendering (for those with relatively recent hardware and drivers like mentioned before), huge performance improvements in JS execution in many scenarios, potential security enhancements, and, and, and…

    On the downside, the RAM consumption increased, esp. on JS-heavy sites and in combination with certain add-ons. Apropos add-ons, basically all of them need to be updated and partly rewritten for Firefox 4. Simple tricks to try to run older add-ons, like when Firefox 3 came out, won't work. Another downside is that certain changes have not yet been done consistently, e.g. not all pop-ups are non-modal yet and not everything is done in tabs instead of windows yet (e.g.: add-on management yes, downloads no).

    And concerning 64-bit, there won't be any official stable Windows x86_64-bit builds yet (maybe with Fx 5) but the automated nightly builds are already done in this flavor (as long as some commit does not break it again).
     
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    Well said... :biggrin:

    And, Windstrings: Many of the 64-bit builds run Flash REALLY well!

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
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    I guess what I"m trying to figure out is that if FF4 "32bit" loses much of its compatibility with addons and still does not work with the fingerprint reader, then I may as well install 64bit?

    Maybe after the dust settles the addons will work as they do with each of the 3.6 32bit updates.
     
  22. PMorgan

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    I suggest you give Minefield (aka 64-bit FF4) a try then. I've been using it for months now and, except for the fingerprint reader, it works well and is much faster than FF3.6 and runs Flash.

    I just installed IE9 64-bit and it also seems to run very fast. I would suggest you try it too.

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
  23. windstrings

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    Can you run it and FF3.6 at the same time and will flash work on both at the same time?

    Seems last time I tried, the version of Flash that runs on 64bit causes the flash on 32 bit to not work and vice versa.
     
  24. Kikoo

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    Javascript execution is actually slower actually: Q&A: 64-Bit Internet Explorer - EricLaw's IEInternals - Site Home - MSDN Blogs (6th question)

    There is no reason why this shouldn't work. But I believe that in order to run several Firefox processes you have run additional Firefox instances with the "-no-remote" parameter or the equivalent environment variable ("MOZ_NO_REMOTE") set.
     
  25. PMorgan

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    Yes, Alan. Last time this topic came up I explained that there are different versions of Flash and each works fine on the appropriate version of FF.

    Our previous discussions may have been forgotten but I posted here last November that I had no problem running both FF 3.6 and Minefield on my machine and each was using its own Flash version. That is still true now. Oh, and yes, Minefield is much faster!

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
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    As you can see from my whole post, I never said anything about JavaScript in my response to Windsprings.

    Primary point I was making was that Minefield is fast and runs Flash (fast).

    Parenthetically, IE9 IS very fast but, of course, in some area, it may be slower IE9 32-bit or slower than something else. I still think Windstrings should give IE9 a try.

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
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    Maybe I'll try again.. but last time I tried I loaded the needed flash for 64 bit and it ran fine... but then when I tried to run 32bit "because it works with my fingerprint stuff".. the flash had to be reinstalled..

    Once the 32bit flash was reinstalled, it messed up the 64bit and I then had to reinstall that to run 64bit again.... back and forth, back and forth.

    The question is, do they cooexist together now?
     
  28. PMorgan

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    YES, Alan, that's exactly what I thought it meant back then. I've been running them interchangeably for nearly 4 months!

    BTW, I still use Minefield mostly for surfing while I use FF 3.6 for more secure stuff where Digital Persona works.

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
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    Installing Firefox 4 will cause DigitalPersona not to work, among other addons...FYI...
     
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    Yes, its funny... I had my computer quite a while before I even started using the fingerprint reader... now that I've gotten accoustomed to it, I've really allowed it to be a crutch as I use it all the time.

    Its the main "plugin" that I would miss if I had to use a pure 64bit browser.

    bouncing around sites, I rarely "plan" to go to a secure site.... I just think of it and go... rather spontaneous most of the time.

    For me, it would be a hassle to bounce back and forth.
    While I could do it... seems its easier to just use FF3.6 "tweaked"... its rather fast anyway.
     
  31. PMorgan

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    I doubt it would be first - maybe 2nd - I think you'd miss Flash most since that's what you always ask about first :laugh:
    But Minefield and IE9 are both faster 64-bit browsers with Flash. As I've agreed before, tho, I still switch back to FF 32-bit when security and DP convenience is desired over speed.

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
  32. windstrings

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    I thought you were talking only about 64bit.
    But with the latest 3.6.16 update tonight, it also brought up a page encouraging the FF 4.0 "32bit" update.... so I did.

    1. Immediately after the update my Persona fingerprint software wouldn't work.
    NOte, that it "updated" 3.6.16 to 4.0 rather than installing separate programs that work independently.

    2. Doing a system restore to just prior to the 4.0 update didn't work... the icon was there but nothing would launch...

    3. I went back one more point and again it wouldn't work.

    4. Had to uninstall FF completely "I kept my personal settings however".

    5. With reinstall "fresh after a registry clean which found traces of the FF 4.0" I reinstalled 3.6.15 and I got all my stuff back and persona worked again.

    I certainly hope Persona updates their software to work with 4.0.
    I"ve tried other software's but they too are not compatible and leave the original persona drivers installed causing a double logon when windows first comes up.

    The folks that are running both, did you do a custom install and tell it to install to a different place?

    Seems if not, it overwrites the 3.6 FF and makes it non existent using it as a base to upgrade from to 4.0 rather than doing a pure install leaving two separate Firefox's.
     
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    There will no be update for FF4 or IE9, Digitalpersona is pulling away from consumer support. ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-compaq/564397-looking-alternatives-hp-simplepass.html)

    HP has already released simplepass 2011 which supports FF4, a couple of months ago. The drawback, you have to install a newer driver and none of your old stuff would work anyways.

    If anyone have time to download the firefox 4.0 trunk and change the version string to like something 3.99.99. Don't know that would work.

    I already tried messing with the extension by removing its compatibility checks, but it really do just nothing.
     
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    Thanks for the post and I appreciate that your looking into it.
    If you find any solutions, We would sure appreciate the update!
     
  36. PMorgan

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    Nope, I was only talking about 64-bit browsers. There is no FF4 64-bit AFAIK. I was talking about Flash working in IE9 and Minefield. If Digital Personal doesn't work under FF4, I'll keep FF 3.6 indefinitely for secure sites, Alan.

    Thanks for the heads up on FF4. (Hope you have a Ghost clone to restore your system to FF 3.6 and your DP data.)

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
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    Can't you just restore a Ghost clone to get it all working right again, Alan?
    That's sure what I'd do!

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
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    New bios update is out for the HDX18T: You should all update if possible.

    ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp51501-52000/sp51618.exe

    Released: 2011-01-21
    Version: F.34
    Compatibility: Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit), Microsoft Windows 7 (64-bit), Microsoft Windows Vista (64-bit)
    Fix/Enhancement: - Fixes an intermittent issue that may result in an unexpected behavior, where the system stops responding (hangs) or a memory page fault is generated. This issue only occurs with 64-bit operating systems
     
  39. Kikoo

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    Yepp. Also nightly builds are also packaged as zip files and even the setup files can be manually unpacked using 7-zip or such.

    It probably won't work no matter how much trickery you do because of fundamental changes that come with Fx4 and the fact that it the extension is not pure JS, ie. it includes a binary blob.

    At some point Firefox 3.6 won't be supported, ie. it won't get any updates – including security updates – anymore, therefore using it indefinitely is definitely a bad idea.
     
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    Yep, Didn't work. As Kikoo said, wasted an hour into compiling a test. Should of noticed that it eventually calls into a library. :eek:

    Anyways I hopped into the newer simplepass and coping with it until something better comes along. $4 bucks a month is pretty lame for a backup feature.
     
  41. PMorgan

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    You're completely correct. I used the word "indefinitely" because I don't know how long it will be practical to use FF3.6 for the purposes I mentioned. So, indefinitely seems a good word to use to describe the approach I adopted. I don't expect to use it forever tho'.

    Regards,
    - - Phil
     
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    Lots and lots and lots of changes to the first post - it took me so long to update the post that it went into the next day! :D

    03/27/2011
    • Updated Intel Chipset Device Software to version 9.2.0.1025.
    • Updated Intel Rapid Storage Technology (SATA AHCI) driver to version 10.1.2.1004.
    • Updated Intel WiFi Link driver to version 13.5.0.
    • Updated Intel WiFi Link driver to version 14.0.0.
    • Updated LSI (Agere) High Definition Audio Modem driver to version 2.2.100.0.
    • Updated JMicron JMB38X Card Reader driver to version 1.0.57.2.
    • Updated JMicron JMB38X 1394 Filter driver to version 1.0.21.0.
    • Updated BIOS for HDX16 / HDX18 to version F.34.
    • Updated NVIDIA graphics driver to version 8.17.12.6776 (267.76) / 1.1.13.1 (HDMI Audio) / 9.10.0514 (PhysX).
    • Updated HP Mobile Data Protection Sensor driver to version 4.1.4.1.
    03/28/2011
    • Changed "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator / Intel HD Graphics" to "Intel HD Graphics."
    • Removed all previous versions of the Intel HD Graphics driver.
    • Added Intel HD Graphics driver version 8.15.10.2321 (15.21.12[.64].2321) / 6.14.0.3074 (Audio).
    • Updated Atheros Wireless LAN driver to version 9.2.0.310.

    If something is inaccurate on the first post, please let me know and I'll try to fix it ASAP! More changes to come, I promise. :)

    Tired now...
     
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    Thanks for the updates.
     
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    Thanks for updating!! :)
     
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    Fingerprint driver "+Validity Sensor Finger Printer Driver v4.3.110.0 (package) Feb 20 2010" didn't install for me on my Dv8T.... it went through the install process but never gave a window showing it was finished.
    Device manager still shows my old one in place.

    Readme notes don't show the DV8T as supported:

     
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    +Intel wifi Drivers for Microsoft Windows 7 v14.0.0 Mar 27 2011 when installed show as version 14.00.113 rather than simply 14.0.0
     
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    The validity drivers has to be manually updated if yours is not in the cva.

    It only works best with simplepass 2011.
     
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    Thanks for the updates. I have done succesfully the following updates too...

    Broadcom Bluetooth 6.4.0.1201
    Realtek PCI-E Fast Ethernet NIC 7.041.0218.2011
     
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    WFM on HDX16
    [​IMG]
    (BTW, my screenshoting application has a bug, who spots it?)
     
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    If it's the driver date, I don't see anything odd with it.
     
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