Compaq Presario V2000Z Memory Conspiracy!!

I'm not absolutely sure but I think that with bios F1.0a
you'll be able to get 166. I think somewhere in this thread, someone mentioned that F.11 decreased his speed to 159.5 (don't forget, however, that you may not be able to boot with F1.0A). Btw, mine is also 159.5 but this does not bother me. 2 gb of RAM will not show you any difference with 6 more mhz. Can you really make you laptop use even 1,5 gb? I truely doubt it.

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Found it, Guntar from 09-10-2005

 

My ram runs both at 159.2 for F1.0A and F1.1

 

not thinking that the extra 6.5 hz would make much difference either - but the jump from 133 sure makes the l2000 not spool the fan as often - and little or no stutter while playing Act of War..

 

just to make sure but officially the laptop I have a (m2105us) support 1gb total ram....however from the readings I'm seeing that it does work with 2x1gb modules. Would it be better to have 1gig of PC3200 or 1.25gigs running at PC2700?

Non memory but similar...currently running a sempron 2800+ and looking to swap it out with a MT30 for $160, any thoughts?

 

Well more memory is better amd IMO the difference between PC3200 - PC2700 will not be noticable. The PC3200 will be faster and can be seen in benchmarks but the real world difference might be negligible. I would say get the PC2700 1.25GB.

On the processor upgrade, an ML Turion might be a straight fit but an MT might require BIOS support.

 

I'll pickup a 1gig module...probably will be pc3200 because it usually runs a bit cheaper.

The CPU I think I'll hold off on for now and see if a newer bios will support it.

 

Unless HP updates the BIOS to support new CPU's (which I don't think they will, it is very unlikely), then you can only upgrade to other Turion ML's and Mobile Semprons.

 

I really spaced something out...I'm running a 2800+ w/256k cache sempron atm and that model only comes in the 25w variety so then it should(in theory) support the lower power Turions.

 

I too agree. I do not see any problem why it should not support MT series Turions( Except voltage everything is same). If I remember correctly VIDs are maintained by Processors so MT series should get its requires 1.2v volts fine. Even worst case scenario 1.45V should not hurt MT series. But again, it is always good idea keep in the mind there are many other things we do not know, so prepare for worst thing.( You may have to return Turion MT or sell it to someone else).

 

this article is slashdotted today, turned out that the HDD on my V2410US is Fujitsu MHT2080AT, similar to the one that dissipated heat the most, no wonder why my left palm is burning :-(

http://storagereview.com/articles/200511/notebook_7.html

 

I just purchased a Compaq M2305NR it came with 2x256. I want to get more memory, before I order, I want to make sure I am reading this right, a 1gb module will work with one of the existing 256meg modules? So the laptop actually does support over 1 Gig? I was looking to get the Corsair ValueSelect 1GB PC2700 from newegg. Anyone use this successfully?

 

un-officially with the latest bios it supports 2gigs as long as you keep with decent memory....some no-name branded memory may not work(even some name branded).

 

Excellent! That is exactly what I wanted to hear since I just bought a 1Gig module! I ended up ordering that Patriot PSD1G33316S that someone else earlier in the thread said worked in their laptop.

Will report back with my results.

 

I just ordered my V2000Z with ML-32 & 1x256MB.

For those who ordered the V2000Z and 1x256MB too, can you tell me what timings is in the included 256MB module? CL-TRCD-TRP-TRAS.

I have some spare modules, I just wanted to know which of my spares will work... or if needed, I will order a 1GB module so it will be ready when the new laptop arrives.

Thanks.

 

The timings vary depending upon the batch you get, mine came with a twinmos pc2700 sodimm (16mx16)

http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_nb_ddr_sodimm.htm

 

Well this memory worked perfectly. My notebook (Compaq M1305NR) came with 2x256. I was able to remove one of the 256meg modules and replace it with the Patriot module with no problems. 1.2 gigs of ram, running at 159.2 Mhz. Bios Version F.11

 

I was reading through this and at some point became very confused.....can someone give me a pointer please.

I just ordered a V2000 with the basic Celeron 1.4GHz and 256 MB of PC2700 RAM.

I want to order an upgrade, but not sure what to get.

1- just buy 512MB PC2700 and thats good enough ($50)

2-buy a stick of 1 gig PC2700 ($120)

3-buy TWO faster PC3200 512MB ($100)

If the faster ram is going to be recognized by the computer and make a big difference then I think I like choice 3. Otherwise leaning towards choice 1 (or maybe choice 2 if I am convinced that it will be a big improvement over choice 1)

Thank you all very much in advance!

:decision:

 

My opinion, option 2. Getting a stick of 1GB for a total of 1.25GB. This way in the future, if you need to upgrade RAM, all you need to do is get another stick of 1GB, for a total 2GB.

With option 3, if you need to upgrade in the future, you will need to toss 1 or both of the 512MB sticks.

 

So I went to chiefvalue and put the crucial 1GB stick in my shopping cart.
The total was 111$ including shipping.
When I went to pay for it the price went up to 122$.
Sure enough when I refreshed the page it now said 122$
Is this bait and switch or what??
Pretty ticked off...


EDIT: So they never replied to my email...only got the canned email acknowleding they got it. So i called them. they were very nice and immediately 'price matched' it bak to 111$ including 3 day shipping, so I'm pretty psyched!

 

Do not get confused with V2000 and V2000z. V2000z is based on AMD Turion/Sempron and this thread is dealing with V2000z and DDR400 issues.

For V2000 you should be good with DDR2700 either 512MBx 2 or 1GB.

 

Has anyone tried the latest BIOS, F.13?:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...roduct=1144546&dlc=en&softwareitem=ob-37062-1

 

Yeah I am confused now.....so the V2000 (the intel based) will not be able to use more than 1GB of RAM??

 

V2000 (Intel-based), 1 GB Max:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...ooks/compaq_presario&storeName=computer_store

V2000Z (AMD-Based), 2 GB Max:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...ooks/compaq_presario&storeName=computer_store

One More Note:

V2000 (Intel-based), PC2700 DDR333 Max-recognizable RAM:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listpa...abid=AM&model=Presario+V2000+Series&submit=Go

V2000Z (AMD-based), PC3200 DDR400 Max-recognizable RAM:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listpa...bid=AM&model=Presario+V2000Z+Series&submit=Go

Crucial only gives you the best possible memory for your system. These might be a couple a factors that influenced the unusual increase of price of the this AMD-based model over the Intel-based one.

 

Thank you for the links.
That is exactly the problem....HP says max 1 Gig, while crucial and other sites state 2gig max......which is it?


I dont trust the HP page, the v2000z is listed as not having a vga port while it is clearly shown in the picture. (and I have seen reviews that show the vga port too) however when I call HP they assure me there is no VGA port. But I think those bozos just read from the same website I am seeing and therefore pretty useless....I have caught them in mutiple errors.

 

HP has to let you configure the V2000 to its max, which is 1 GB. If you are still not sure, go ahead and make the call to HP. If you do not want to call and still persistent, go ahead and waste your money and try to put over 1 GB into your monster.

P.S. Good eye , my V2000Z does have a VGA-out port. I noticed on the Compaq notebook page, it says both the V2000 and V2000Z start at 5.2 lbs, which is not true. On the system spec pages (above), it says the V2000 starts at 5.21 lbs, and the V2000Z 5.38 lbs.

 

I read in this very thread that some compaq machines actually support more than its stated by HP because of Bios update. I'm not trying to be stubborn, I just want to be very sure......what makes you so sure?

Monster huh?

 

I am not 100% sure, it is just splitting hairs for me. If you want to try get more than 1 GB on your machine, update to the latest BIOS version and try it.

 

Oh really? I didn't even know. Well then, this affects me. I just ordered a DDR400 stick.

 

NM, I have the latest BIOS and still running at 160 Mhz, what's the deal? Is it the factory stick that is the problem? I will find out when I get my new DDR400 PC3200 stick wednesday. I'll swap the system stick out with the new stick to see if the system stick is the problem. If it is still slow, then it is definitely not the RAM that is the problem.

 

Yes that is what it supposed to work at (160Mhz) with DDR333 as CPU FSB is 800x2 , so memory divider runs at 5 (so it is 160), but with DDR400 memory divider runs at 4, so it runs at 200Mhz.

You are perfectly fine with DDR400 memory for V2000z. See my sig, I am using 2x 512MB Corsair DDR400 at DDR400 speed in V2000z.

 

chinna, Which crucial is it? is it ValueSelect or the SystemSelect?
Does your module have SPD settings for 133 & 200Mhz?

Thanks

Edit: I meant Corsair not Crucial.

 

I didn't know the factory RAM was PC2700. Does this mean I have to upgrade the factory stick to DDR400 PC3200 to run in tandem with my new stick?

 

Yes. If you pair RAM of different speeds, both will work at the same speed as the slowest module. In your case the faster RAM will downclock to PC2700.

 

Is it worth it to spend another $55 to run at 3200 instead of 2700? Is it that big of a performance increase?

 

BTW I just got a resposne from Crucial tech support regarding the memory capicity of the v2000 (intel based) They stand by their claim of 2 Gigs.

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The Presario V2000 laptop will accept 1GB SODIMMs in the memory slots;
we have sold hundreds of these parts, with a very low return rate.


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-----Original Message-----
To: crucsupport; Knowledgebase
Subject: FAQ: Memory Upgrades

Hello
I want to upgrade the ram on my Compaq V2000 (Intel Celeron M based)
laptop. According to HP/Compaq, it can only use up to 1 Gig.

Please let me know which is correct so that I may order the correct
amount.

Thank you

 

Not really, other than improved benchmarks scores, the difference between 333MHz and 400MHz RAM is not easily distinguishable by the average user.

 

I bought these sticks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145506

Model #: VS512SDS400

And BTW, these are not CAS 2.5 as advertised on newegg, it is CAS 3 at DDR400 speed. But still faster by 10-15% based on application when compared to DDR333.

 

OK, thank you miner. :AMDINTEL:

 

I agree, for tyical usage the improvment is not noticable.

Super PI to 3DMark05, PCMark all scores improved by around 10-15%.

Check V2000z review for comparison.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=28492&page=2&pp=10

See difference from DDR400 to DDR333
SuperPi from 1 min 47 sec to 1 min 43 sec
Sandra: 2761/2758 MB/s. (from 2241/2242)
PCMark05: 2199 (from 2125)
PCMark04: 3435 (from 3331)
PCMark02: Memory Score 7457 (from 6762)
3DMark2001SE: 5014( from 4423) Wow!
3DMark05: 634 (from 586)

BTW all these things only comes into picture when you are running at full blast.

In typical usage I do not think you will see any difference.

 

My STOCK PC333 ML-30 SuperPi 2M Time: 2:23 (not 1:47) with all background processes running, one FF window open.

 

So much for your advice......I installed the RAM today and its reading all 1.25 Gigs!

Don't believe the hype.

 

What's your CPU? Celeron or Pentium? According to this doc (page 1-2),

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00444244.pdf

max is 1G for Celeron and 2G for Pentium.

 

It is not dependent on CPU, it is dependent on chipset. Since these two models are same chipset, it should support same 2GB. I do not know where this myth of 1GB limit came from. Sometimes in manual they say based on already existing sticks.

 

So can I some clarification about this? If you have the latest bios F.13 what ram should you get if you have the stock 256 that comes with the laptop? What ram should we get for aftermarket memory (timings, etc). What settings in the bios should be changed to get maximum peformance? This is for a gig.

 

You can buy OCZ DDR400 memory, that way in future if you remove your supplied 256MB DDR333, memory will run at DDR400 speed. And in bios you do not need to do anything.

Just install memory and boot the machine.

 

So would any DDR400 200 pin stick work or just OCZ? Im partial to crucial or corsair. Especially after that report on OCZ a few years ago.

 

Corsair ValueSelect DDR400 SODIMM (200 pin) worked for me. It has the SPD settings for DDR400, DDR333, & DDR266.

 

Currently I have Corsair DDR400 , though it is listed as CAS 2.5 but it is CAS 3.0, where as OCZ is CAS 2.5 and it is running fine on V2000z. Check my review in my signature below. One of our member bought it and it is working really good.

 

Same here!

FSB = 200mhz
Memory = 200Mhz DDR400 Cas 3.0 3-3-8 timings

I got the 1GB stick.

 

So if I get a gig of pc3200 thats cas 2.5 and put it in by itself then the FSB will be 200MHz? If I take out the 256 that it came with and just had the 1GB stick in there will it be faster than if I had both? Right now its around 159.5MHz. I thought by default its supposed to be ddr400 or maybe im missing the whole point of this thread.