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    Compaq Presario V2000Z Memory Conspiracy!!

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Alphafox, Sep 5, 2005.

  1. alexjl

    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    Remove the stick of 256 and throw it away or ebay it.

    As long as your gig stick is 3200/400 it will boost your speed.
     
  2. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Laptop comes with 256 DDR333 memory(not DDR400) it will run at DDR333 speed, but if you take out that 256MB stick,1GB DDR400 will run at full DDR400 speed( mean 200Mhz). Keeping that 256MB DDR333 forces it all memory sticks at DDR333 speed
     
  3. alexjl

    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    Correct!

    It isn’t brain science people!
     
  4. bq487

    bq487 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So 1.0G at DDR400 spped is generally/always better than 1.25G at DDR333 speed? Sorry, sometimes I am a little slow. :confused:
     
  5. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Yes, that is right( atleast as per my experience) and you could sell that 256 to some other poor soul( I did).
     
  6. alexjl

    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    Depends. But my choice would be the faster ram. Remember that the ram is also used for video memory. So faster system ram = faster video ram. Its a double whammy.
     
  7. azgard

    azgard Notebook Enthusiast

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    It will not run at 200. It is going to run at 166 because that is all the bios will alow.
     
  8. alexjl

    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    How about you only open up your trap if you have a Compaq V2000?

    Tell that story to my computer as well as the other 4-5 people on the board that use DDR400 in their V2000.

    CPUZ doesnt lie you troll.
     
  9. vassil_98

    vassil_98 Notebook Deity

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    V2000z does support ddr400 (200mhz), that's clear and I don't thing there's need to explain it anymore.
    Yet, can anyone make it a little clearer what T1 and T2 timings are? V2000z series comes with default T2 timing and some people earlier in the thread said that T1 timings is much better.
     
  10. alexjl

    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    Mr. Hollywood Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have version F.21 of the bios in mine. Will that make a difference?

    [​IMG]
     
  12. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Wow, you have the latest!
    I am sure it should support DDR400. But I am wondering what else improvements it has over the bios I have F.13.

    If you could post your ROM file it would be useful!!
     
  13. Mr. Hollywood

    Mr. Hollywood Notebook Enthusiast

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    How do I do that?
     
  14. nathanhuth

    nathanhuth Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Where do I get the new bios? It is not on the v2000z download page. Thanks.
     
  15. alexjl

    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    I have a RS428 chipset, you have a RS480. That i most likly the cause for the diffrent bios. Heck the model number isnt even the same :p

    Mr. Hollywood mind telling us your entire notebook specs?
     
  16. Mr. Hollywood

    Mr. Hollywood Notebook Enthusiast

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    V2000z
    Turion 64 1.8GHZ 512K cache
    256 Ram
    ATI 200M no productivity ports
    Broadcom 54g
    40GB HDD
    Brightview
    8X DVD
    6 cell battery
     
  17. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    I think even Mother board model is different, probably new revised MB(some improvement, I hope!!).
    As per chipset, both are same expect one is 130nm process(RS480) vs 110nm(RS482). May be they have shortage for RS482 because of lot demand for this model( lot of Desktop boards are use this chip).

    But I doubt if bios is different because of it. May be they will post this version later.

    Here is info from Anandtech about these two

    " The RS480 and the RS482 are the same chipset, with the RS482 having undergone a die shrink. We believed that the Grouper was still equipped with the RS480 chipset, when in fact, the Reference Board had the .11 process RS482 when we checked under the heatsink.

    Whether RS482 or RS480, the performance should be essentially the same according to ATI. The RS480 is built on a .13 micron process, and the RS482 is a die-shrink to .11 micron. The chipsets are otherwise identical, except that ATI did make the move to a flip chip design in RS482. Whether it is a RS480 core or RS482 core, ATI calls the chipset Radeon Xpress 200. You will never hear ATI refer to the RS482 or RS480 in official documents, but we find the internal names to be useful for explaining what has and hasn't changed in the chipsets."
     
  18. vassil_98

    vassil_98 Notebook Deity

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    Chinna what is your chipset? I have the RS480, bios F.11 (well I will flash it these days)
    My model is 3093, 47.OD. uff it gets complicated. What is this 47.OD?
     
  19. chinna_n

    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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  20. vassil_98

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    Thanks, and sorry for the deleted post (I was on the previos page when I wrote mine)
    Going for the new Bios then :)
     
  21. alexjl

    alexjl Notebook Consultant

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    482 = productivity ports
    480 = no productivity ports

    They use a different bios because for the 482 to support the productivity.

    That’s my guess. It’s just faster that way to give different models different a bios rather that tweaking each bios individually based on the customers needs. They just send out 2 different pro configured bios.
     
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    fill2k Notebook Consultant

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    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Wow! You are jumping to conclusions pretty fast!! It is same bios for all the versions. If you see the previous public release of bios, it is common for all CTO V2000z model irrespective of whether it has Productivity ports are not. But, it is quite possible(most likely) there are using different MB models(based on same chipset) with and without prodctivity ports. (like for Ex: ASUS P4P800 and P4P800E deluxe, all use same bios though they have some extra chipsets and features).

    And as I explained in my previous post there is no difference in those chipsets other than manufacturing process and productivity ports has nothing to do with chipset as those are provided by completely different chipset. Probably, if you have idea about MB bios you will understand it.

    And please do not jump to conclusions as it confuses newbies.
     
  24. Mr. Hollywood

    Mr. Hollywood Notebook Enthusiast

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    So is my computer not as good since the manufacturing process is bigger? Should I send it back and tell them I want the 110 version?
     
  25. fill2k

    fill2k Notebook Consultant

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    Don't think there's any difference... Typically, they just switch to smaller manufacturing process to save money... since they can pack more of the chip on the same silicon wafer.

    This means they can produce more of the chips at the same cost to them. or they could to pass the savings by selling the chips cheaper.
     
  26. vassil_98

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    Mine has productivity ports (l2000 does not come without them). There should not be any difference between l2000 and v2000z in the MB version, I think.
    I wonder, why some people have the same model MB and different chipset... anyways, I think we are going too much into this stuff as there is no difference whatsoever in performance (so far :))
     

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    chinna_n Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    You are absolutely right. This is not even worth discussing in detail as we know these two are essentially same chipset. And it is same bios for all V2000z/L2000 models. Probably just installing available chip.
     
  28. unlucky

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    I just ordered a custom V2000Z w/ the Sempron 3300+ (2.0GHz/128k) and a single 256Mb stick.

    questions:
    1. Is there any performance benefit to running matched pairs ie 2x512Mb PC3200 over a single 1024Mb PC3200 stick?

    2. Any documented problems yet w/ running 2x1024Mb PC3200?

    Also curious if anyone has a link to some benchmarks on the Mobile 3300+.

    Thanks
     
  29. brianstretch

    brianstretch Notebook Virtuoso

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    Current AMD notebook CPUs are single-channel, so there's no advantage to running matched pairs of SODIMMs. Get the single 1GB PC3200 stick. Stick with the better brands, AMD's high-performance integrated memory controller isn't as tolerant of mediocrity as Intel's external controllers. Crucial is my favorite, others have spoken highly of OCZ.
     
  30. thephenom

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    I've got the OCZ DDR400 1GB stick, detects fine, runs fine. (looped windows memtest, fully stable at 2.5-4-4, but unable to run at 1T timing through A64 Tweaker)

    Can't do anymore test, upgraded from the V2305 to the V4000T :D
     
  31. grzesiek.sz

    grzesiek.sz Newbie

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    Hello guys

    I have got Twinmos 1024MB DDR400 with label DDR400 (CL2.5) but it runs as CL3.0 in my V2000Z

    is it next wrongly listed stick or
    there is no posibility to run any (other than OCZ as above ) stick as CL2,5
     
  32. vassil_98

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    I guess the only way to find out is to check the memory on another computer. After all, it might be that v2000z's Bios messes up the memory, although I can't understand how OCZ would get through in this case.
    You can try to tweak the memory settings but as far as I know, there is no way to keep the new settings after standby/restart.
     
  33. grzesiek.sz

    grzesiek.sz Newbie

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    checking the memory in another V2000Z or L2000 will be a problem i don't know anybody with this notebooks
    but I'll check it on ACER 5024
     
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