***ENVY 14 Gaming Lounge***

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weird l3vi. shows up fine on my sensors if I try to underclock a slight bit.

 

What's also weird is that when I run at default clocks under High Performance, under sensors it says I'm at 450/799.99

Ugh. It seems MSI Afterburner cannot overclock my card for some reason.

 

10.7 DOES NOT work with overclock. You need 10.6 or 10.7a. I've tried and had the same issues.

Also, try to disable powerplay, apply setting, then enable powerplay, then apply setting. That fixes overclocking issues that I had too.

 

Yea I did that as well, it was still stuck. However running AfterBurner in administrator mode fixed the problem. I am able to underclock/overclock properly now.

 

that might explain it then.

I run with UAC turned off.

 

You sure?
I'm overclocking with 10.7 fine

 

might depend on your vid card.

like all this stuff

 

You sure 10.7 drivers are properly installed? everything else on mine updated to 10.7 except drivers still said 10.3.

 

Driver Packaging Version - 8.753-100706m-102501C-ATI
Catalyst Version - 10.7

 

Anyone find good settings for GTA IV yet? I've dropped res to 1280x720, Trilinear filtering, high textures, low shadows, water res, reflections, VSync Off, Distances at stock, and I'm still getting an average of just over 30 FPS with drops to 20 or lower on the benchmark. I'd like to get it so that I don't drop below 30 (though in the actual game I'm sure it will anyway), so what's next? Overclock? Update to 10.7a (will it make a difference)? Lower textures or the already low draw distances?

 

with GTAIV, the answer is sadly "Get a quad core"


Rockstar doesn't care 'bout your i5 anymore. Well that and/or find a way to OC the 5650 to 3820TG levels or something.


though it still won't go all that above 30.

edit the edit: Also if you haven't update GTAIV to the latest version since that's supposed to help some.

 

Has anyone tried using the RivaTuner Statistics Server to get a temperature overlay in their games with the ENVY's Radeon 5650?

(Or is there a better program I should use that I don't know about?)

 

Hm, I'd be interested in this too.

Anyone know why my Envy shuts down after about 2 hours of MW2? No BSOD or anything, it just shuts down and restarts. I think the temp stays in the 50s to 60s or higher 60s at most. Celcius of course.

Seems like it was because of the heat, but I thought it would shut down at around 75C.

 

Is it always 2 hours, or is it random intervals? Does it go to a black or brightly colored screen before restarting? What drivers are you running?

 

How come no one posts their benchmarks ?

anyways, here's mine :
550/925
3DMarks - 7973
ATI 10.7a

 

Already been discussed, but I don't think it matters much IMHO. As long as your games run.

 

Well, not every 2 hours. It's kind of random, but it never shuts down when I play for an hour or something. I'm using 10.3.

 

530/980
3DMark 7982
ATI 10.7

 

are you using a cooler ? if so, what are you using ?

my gpu highest was 74c. yours is quite low.

 

Yeah that was while my Zalman nc2000 was on. Regular GPU temps are high 60s/low 70s

 

What kind of settings do you have for SC2?

 

I apologize if this has been asked before...

Does updating to 10.7a affect your ability to use switchable graphics?

 

As long as you have reverted to the base 10.3 HP provided video drivers, installing 10.7a should go without a hitch.

 

I think my cooling system is broken. I just hit a max if 92 on the CPU and 84 on the GPU while playing Borderlands. Damn.

 

In catalyst control, do we do the installs it recommends? like hydravision and display setup?

 

I'm totally new to overclocking, so I might need help.

Running 10.3 drivers, I bumped up to 500/800 and got it to apply. MSI Kombustor ran fine for about 8 minutes at 90-100 FPS and 96% GPU utilization and maxed out somewhere around 67 degrees before I stopped it (I was doing a big file transfer, so I didn't want to be screwed by a crash in the middle of it). However, F.E.A.R. Perseus Mandate only ran for about 3 minutes on those clocks (with no artifacting and at improved FPS) before it crashed the system, though it definitely didn't feel hot enough to have been an overheating issue.

So my question is: did I get a bad overclocker, or is there more to do before that's established? As an addendum: will Arctic Silver improve anything in this regard, or is thermal threshhold a non-issue with cards that overclock poorly?

 

should we download direct X? if so what version?

 

I dont think 3 min can overheat ur comp. I think you oced too much.

 

So that means that the limit on how much a chip can overclock is not based on thermal issues? That's what I thought, but I'm trying to cover any bases before giving up on overclocking this chip, just in case I missed something or somehow botched the OC. However, if it couldn't handle 3 minutes of a 4 year-old game at modest settings, I guess it's not meant to be. Bummer - that 50 mHz of core speed gave me a significant FPS boost while it lasted, at least in FEAR Perseus Mandate.

 

yeah I got a feeling you got a bad overclocker.

 

Doh! Nvm my statement about cooling being broken. I hadn't reset CPUID after running 3dmark while the laptop was sitting on my bed.

 

the undervents are important it seems

 

i gotta try overclocking soon but I really dont need it in SC2.. Magus or anyone else who OCs...what settings (+FPS you get) can you play in SC2 when you overclock to as high as possible on your laptop?

 

Overclocking causes two negative factors to go up:
-Heat
-Error margin

If either of these two factors go too high, you'll get bad things. Bad things can mean crashes, bluescreens, artifacting (odd stuff on the screen), black screens, etc. Unfortunately, that means you can have a superb overclocker that heats up really fast and has to shutdown to prevent damage (good error margin, bad heat dissipation) or a bad overclocker that's still far from its thermal maximum (bad error margin, good heat dissipation).

It's also why overclocking is a long, often tedious process that goes in 5Mhz increments, not 50Mhz at a time

 

I dunno. haven't tried OCing SC2 since I turned off catalyst AI.

I get 30-50-60ish fps on medium.


it drops to 30 on certain parts of the map for hell if I know why. Stupid maps.

 

Creep maybe? It makes your GPU work really hard on high details.

 

nah. it's not creep. Both teams were toss. I think it's more that there's map detail stuff deep in the background on the top right of steppes of war.

but the bottom left it's just a black space. And that pisses the computer off.

 

I just decided that if it wasn't going to do at least 500/800 it probably wasn't worth bothering with, but it's good to know that I should take it slower if I try to overclock in the future.

 

New question - I started playing The Witcher a couple days ago. I'm running at 1600x900 but have to use pretty low settings in order to get the game to stay over 30 FPS most of the time (average maybe 35-40, but drops to 20 even in some relatively mundane situations). I'm also finding a lot of frameskips even when I'm getting better than 30 FPS. This is on AC, Powerplay on but switched off and on to reset to 450/800. Considering that a lot of people are running DA:O and Fallout 3 at or near max settings, and The Witcher is older, should my E14 really have that hard a time with it?

Combining this with my relatively poor performance on FEAR (have to play roughly at medium settings for fluid 60 FPS) and the fact that the card crashed fast at 500/800, is it possible that my 5650 is a total dud, or is it possible that I'm forgetting to do something to optimize my performance?

 

didja turn off catalyst AI? just making sure.

 

what does catalyst AI do?

 

supposed to make some games run better.


seems to just screw stuff up

 

how do you turn it off ? from the CCC

 

yeah. 3D --> All --> find catalyst AI and tick the disable catalyst AI check box

 

Stats:
I7-720, 4 gigs of ram, ati mobility hd 5650.

I did the 3DMark06 trial and did not get a 3D mark score. My question is, where are you guys getting your pcmark from?

CPU Score - 5546
Graphics Score - 1434

Graphics score is low. This was all done pretty much right when I got the machine. Battery life is at about 1 hour 45 minutes right out of the box, no tweaks made.

 

SC2 is crashing on my Envy 14, i5 450m, 4GB RAM on 1920x1080 (external monitor) resolution with shaders, shadows and post set to medium, reflections off and everything else on high. Pretty much what some of you are running on without problems (except that your reso is 1600x900)

GPU is 70c/158f when it crashes. (Is that high?)

Game seems to be running fine, no lag, easily 40fps but it just abruptly crashes to desktop.

Running 10.7 drivers, with catalyst AI disabled. Everything else is stock.

Any ideas?

 

yea that GPU temp is prefectly ok mine gets to the low 80s when I play 4v4 have yet to crash (Knock on wood...)

 

ok i think ive seen this discussed before,

but why is it when i switch my graphics card from integrated to atis 5650, my clocks stay at 300/300 (while the envy 14 is on and on battery, i plug itin and then hit change)? and i need to restart every time just bring my clocks back up to 450/800?

but if i restart my comp or jst turn it on while its plugged in.. it goes to 450/800?

i was just wondering if anyone had a fix to this, cuz im pretty sure i read somewhere that some other people are experiencing.

envy 14
10.7a drivers
latest bios (i believe .12 or something like that)

 

it's a bug in powerplay. It may be a video bios bug (since changing drivers doesn't fix it).

your options are:

1. leave powerplay on and just remember to turn powerplay off, hit apply, turn it back on. (Or restart the computer) Stops the card from running at 450/800 all the time (which if it's running at 450/800 probably heats up the computer a bit if it was running at 450/800 all the time while plugged in, but I dunno. I doubt it heats it up like it's running full blast and you're playing a game.)

2. Just turn powerplay off and forget about it and deal with the tad bit more heat and the drop in battery life if you don't swap to the integrated card.