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    ENVY 15-jXXX / ENVY 17-jXXX Notebooks (2013)

    Discussion in 'HP' started by justinkw1, Apr 29, 2013.

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    So has anybody found where to order an extra 120W power adapter for the 15t-j000? This laptop uses a new, slimmer barrel, so I can't use my NINETY DOLLAR 120W power adapters I got with my dv7t-6100 a couple years back that work with a myriad of HP systems. Frustrating. They don't even have them listed on the HP website!
     
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    It is still nice to have the capability to downgrade to Windows 7 Pro/Ult. I have found a good chunk of the drivers through the Pavilion dv6t-7000 Quad support page and updated drivers through Intel. The only issue I'm having now is the Hotkey functions (not an issue for me) and the USB 3.0 ports are not running at the full speed. I'm going to try and find those and post links to each driver and software program when I'm finished.
     
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    Have you checked into just getting an adapter to adapt the big plug down to the small plug so you can reuse your old adapters? I don't know if these exist but I thought I heard somewhere that they were available. I have 2 power bricks from previous laptops that have the big plug and it would be nice if they are the same spec to just get a plug adapter.
    I would chat with the HP customer support and see what they say. I would do it but I can't at the moment.
     
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    Yeah, but I've always been skeptical of dongles and adapters.

    Either way, I found the part on HP's PartSurfer. The new 120W power adapter is HP part number 710415-001. You can enter your laptop's serial number to get the build list, then you can place a check next to the power adapter, add it to cart, and order away.

    Woo!
     
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    Hi gbenedetto,

    Is the GT750M available for CTO in LA now? Because it is still not available in USA :mad:

     
  6. Angelus359

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    I just got my HP 15t j000 custom laptop

    the GPU is GK208 with ddr3!!!
     
  7. yjsjin

    yjsjin Notebook Guru

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    hey so Im going to buy mSATA for installing OS, I make the recovery of win8 in USB, then plug in mSATA, boot with USB, then in install menu i install the new copy of win8 on mSATA? Im kinda scared that the msata wont show up during selection
     
  8. Angelus359

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    You could use the lifehacker guide on how to move an OS

    I can't figure out how to change boot drive priority and I have the laptop infront of me!

    You could cheap out and use a 64GB caching drive
     
  9. yjsjin

    yjsjin Notebook Guru

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    nah i dont need to move OS jus gonna do a fresh install of it, i think 64gb is gna be too small for OS+Programs, prolly gonna buy 128Gb i think it costs 120$,, jus making sure if anyone has done this alrdy and if it works well.

     
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    I'm wondering if the reports of bad keyboard flex apply to both the backlit keyboard and non-backlit keyboard for the Envy 15. Does anyone know? When I looked at one of the keyboards for an Envy 15 at Walmart (AMD version) it didn't have a backlit keyboard and the flex was not bad.
     
  11. Angelus359

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    I have the backlit version, and I have no freaking clue what people are complaining about with flex.

    I actually really like this keyboard




    Oh, has anyone experimented with replacing the realtek wifi with something else?

    I kinda want an intel 7260 bluetooth widi 802.11AC dualband chip and I wanted to know if it'd be reasonable to do.
     
  12. T2050

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    They are all the same. The problem with the flex is backing plate that supports the keyboard. Stupidly HP design this plate with several large square holes in it, thus where the flex is worse in some place s and not so bad in others.

    BTW. Once you get it home, is not till you are really using it, then that's when you will notice the flex.
     
  13. Shabby610

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    Here is the official list of support WWAN modules from the maintenance and service guide (the HP part number is the numeric code at the end):

    Atheros AR9485 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter for use on all computer models 675794-001
    Mediatek MT7630E 802.11bgn Wi-Fi Adapter and Mediatek Bluetooth 4.0 Adapter for use on all computer models 710418-001
    Ralink RT3290LE 802.11b/g/n 1×1 WiFi and Bluetooth 4.0 Combo Adapter for use on all computer models 690020-001
    Realtek RTL8188EE 802.11bgn Wi-Fi Adapter for use on all computer models 709848-001
    Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230 Combo Adapter for use only on computer models equipped with an Intel processor 670290-001

    Just as an FYI. I built my 15t-j000 on the HP website (Haswell i7-4700MQ), chose the wireless + Bluetooth option, and I got an Intel 2230.

    If you want to put something in that isn't one of the modules listed above, you'll need to get a "wi-fi whitelisted" BIOS. I got one hacked for me when I had my dv7t-6100, and it worked great, but you take a big amount of risk getting one of these made for you. If the person who makes the hacked BIOS messes a little bit of code up, it could semi-brick your laptop.
     
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    Playing around with the configurator on the HP site and I noticed that selecting the i7-4702 proc prompts you to select a discrete card. This means that it has no integrated gpu and therefore no optimus. Battery life on the i7-4702 will end up being worse than that of the 47W procs if the dGPU is always active like the Lenovo Y500/Y510.
    And how soon can we expect the GT750 on the CTO models? HP better hurry up with it cos I see no reason why its available in a prebuilt model but not the CTO's. If the i7-4702mq is a prerequisite, then it should not let you configure it independently (they have done this several times in d past). For example, you cannot order a Windows ultimate disc if you configure the system with Windows pro.
    The GT740 gk208 looks really under powered. Even if the GT750 is DDR3, it'll be far better.
     
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    How long has the prebuilt 17 inch with the 750m been available? Was it available earlier this month when the 20% discount was going on? HP does not make it very obvious in their laptop listings that the 750m is available with that model, so I missed it. The CTO with everything the same with a 740m is 1134.99 vs the prebuilt with the 750m being 1180. Only a 50 dollar difference! Is there any other fundamental different about this prebuilt version I should know about?

    Also, the touch-screen 17 inch was available on the website just a few days ago, now I cannot find it.
     
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    I have an Intel 7260AC working in mine without any problems.
     
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    On the Envy 15, you can select to get the Wifi without bluetooth or the Wifi with bluetooth. I don't need bluetooth on my laptop, but are there other reasons to pick the bluetooth one just for better performance/quality or any other reason?
     
  18. Samunosuke

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    Have no idea how long it has been available. Probably about 2 weeks at most.
    Your little sleuthing may just have uncovered their pricing for the GT 750m - an extra $50 on the upgrade price of the GT 740m if they keep both of them or at the current GT 740m price if it will be superseded by the GT 750m.

    The more I look at HP's GT 740m, the worse it looks. Using notebookcheck and comparing the gpuz data indicates that the performance of HP's implementation will be terrible. Granted, its connected to a pci-e 3 slot but only x8 and all the better performing ones on notebookcheck are x16. That pixel fillrate of 7.8 Gpixel/s is what ruins this card completely, 1080p will crush it. That GT 750m can't come soon enough for me.
     
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    This is true, however, it appears the i7 4702qm will REQUIRE integrated graphics to run all the time. While obviously this means less battery life, I would be less concerned about that and more concerned about increased heat and noise. I do feel a little cheated seeing that the price difference between the two chips is only 50 bucks. Then again, if the prebuilt machine with the 750m was not on there when I ordered this one it could be the reason they had 20% off coupons going in the first place.

    I received my 17 inch Touchsmart today. I'm trying to get used to the matte display. I'm coming from a 16.4" 1080p Sony Vaio F series from 2010 that had a glossy screen. Although this one is LED (the F series had a single bulb), the addition of one inch plus the matte screen means the picture is less vibrant than I'm accustomed to. If I did return this laptop, that would be the only reason, but that would be because of my personal preference. The screen itself is actually very bright and nice for the display type. Out of the box you can tell the speakers are not adjusted correctly, but you can immediately tell they have a lot of power and will sound great once tweeked. One of the best things is how well the laptop performs. It's not sluggish at all, extremely response, multitasking like a charm. Not that it should do anything less with a quadcore Haswell chip, but you never know what to expect. There is indeed some flex on the left side of the keyboard, I'm not sure that should be a deal breaker though. The laptop is running very cool and quiet.

    Currently downloading Civilization V to test the graphics capability, I will update later with what I find.
     
  20. Samunosuke

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    Ok. Have you confirmed that yours is a gk208 chip? Sometimes, manufacturers have variations in their chips and in this case, I'm hoping HP does.
     
  21. T2050

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    Gaming with a 750M is asking to much from it at 1080p, that why I went for a 768p display, and also the 1080p is very poor quality if any better than a 768p.

    If you really want to drive a game hard at high or ultra settings, let the CPU do the work for higher frames at 768p and the GPU work at 768p also, as it can handle that low resolution without losing to many frames, thats what the 750M with DDR3 is good at, low resolution gaming.

    There is no higher model than the 750M and DDR3 is the fastest memory, check out the service manual it all there.

    And if anyone is wondering about the i7-4702MQ being underpowered, its not. It can sustain a 4 core turbo boost at 2.9GHz, and that is nothing to laugh at.
    If you want more, then you can use Intel XTU and gain and sustain a 3.1GHz 4 core turbo boost when gaming. That is pretty sweet for something that has a single cooling solution.

    People that only have the CTO option available need to start getting real answer from HP. Bit of a shame really, last year I could get the 650M model and now this year its the other way around. I wouldn't expect HP to actually give you an answer.
     
  22. Samunosuke

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    Yeah, gaming @ 1080p with the GT750m is pushing it but I can't live with a 768p screen for any other task. Shame about the poor 1080p panel. Issues upon issues.
     
  23. justme2010

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    When you talk about the quality of the 1080p screen, make sure you specify the 15 or 17 inch version. Both are on display at Best Buy and the 15 inch version is a very poor quality screen. I have not seen the 768p version of the 15 inch or the 1600 X 1900 of the 17 inch, but based off years of looking at laptops these lower resolution screens are typically of much lower quality. This means the 1080p screen on the 17 inch is the best display this laptop model offers. It's the only matte one, the other 3 are all glossy. Even the touchscreen 17 inch at best buy has a matte display underneath the touch panel (which is glass, obviously). If you are wanting a glossy 1080p 17 inch screen you might want to take a look at the Toshiba Satellite P70. Best buy also has the 15 and 17 inch P series satellite notebooks on display. I mention these because they are essentially the Toshiba equivalent of this laptop in terms of price and hardware specs. The difference is the P70 configured through Toshiba for the same price has more RAM and a 740m with GDDR3 memory. Personally, in store, the Toshiba screen looks better to me. I don't know if this is only because it's glossy, or the panel itself is better. If you're wanting to maybe explore an alternative to this Envy, this undoubtedly the next closest thing. However, if you got the Envy with the 20% coupon then it makes the Toshiba much more expensive overall.
     
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    How do you get the second antenna working?
     
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    has anyone found a replacement ac adapter or the oem ac adapter for sale anywhere. I can't seem to find the charger anywhere on the hp website.
    I have a 15" model that came with a 120 Watt charger. Thanks
     
  26. Maikky

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    Soo I'm trying to play DOTA2 but the start screen gives me only like 3 or 5 fps on both the iGPU and Nvidia card, what the hell is going on .

    Ok another thing, I'm doing speedtest and I'm getting .68mbps down and 9.38m up, that doesn't look normal .
     
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    What is your battery life for the 15t j000? Mine is around 2 hours on HP Recommended settings and around 3-4 on power saver. Im thinking about getting a battery replacement from hp.
     
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    Is this prebuilt Envy 17 with the 750M available in the US? If so, what's the link?
     
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    I've been getting around 4-5 hours, on the balanced setting
     
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    What's the criteria for these coupons? E.g. $899 and above has a certain percentage reduction,$999 and above has a greater percentage reduction etc? How soon can we expect the next proper coupons? The current academy deal blows! Who in their right sense wants a slate 7? Give me that $200 discount upfront.
     
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    There are 2 antenna cables plugged into the original even though its 1x1
     
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    Hp actually offer some of the best low cost options around. Went snooping around the dell and lenovo sites and their sub-$800 options are really quite atrocious.
     
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    Anyone notice the 17" touch model is no longer on HP's site?

    This weekend is tax free for us here in Missouri, so even though the deals aren't great right now, the lack of tax will save me $80 or more on one of these souped up. I'd been leaning towards a 17" touch model, so I hope it comes back. The 15" is nice too, but I've seen some here say the 1080p screen isn't very good (is that true for the CTO models, or are people saying that based on the model in BB?). The 15" Envy touch in store at BB has a i5-4200U dual core processor, and it lacks the fingerprint reader, so I'm wondering if it's really a comparable model.

    The sound seems a bit better on the 17", and the extra HD bay could be useful for SSD + HDD, though I guess there is a mSATA slot I can use on either the 15 or 17. Other than that, I'd probably be fine with the 15" as long as it has a decent enough 1080 screen. In any event, it looks like I might have to choose between the BB 17" model (which a discrete GPU, and if I'm going to have an optical drive I'd rather it be Blu-Ray), or ordering a 15" from HP, if the 17" from HP doesn't come back by Sunday.
     
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    Yeah, the fourth of July deal was nuts . I'm waiting to see if their is a back to school sale like that .

    Got the fully maxed out 15 Envy non-touch for 780$ total .
     
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    Maybe the new Envy 15/17s will finally have a touch-pad that isn't absolutely horrible? I don't think it's asking too much...
     
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    Still trying to decide if the 740m is worth the size of the charger, anyone got the same thought ?
     
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    anyone playing LoL on 15j 740m? hows the gameplay
     
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    I haven't felt this keyboard flex in my Envy 17 or the Best Buy model of the Envy 15t. I've visited multiple Best Buys and simply haven't encountered it.....
     
  42. Maikky

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    Were there any quad-core Envy 15ts in the stores ?

    And also were they the lower-end screens or were they near-IPS like the 17 ?
     
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    The Best Buy ones were dual core if I remember correctly.

    As for the screen at the time I thought it was okay but keep in mind that this was like 3 weeks ago. That being said I thought for a Full HD screen it was very crisp/sharp.

    I'm gonna go into Best Buy tomorrow morning and I'll post my thoughts after I look at the Best Buy version of the 15 one more time.
     
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    I believe the 15" models that BB carries in store are not 1080. Both the AMD model and the i5-4200U model are listed on their site at 1366 x 768. The 17" is 1080 and may not be IPS, but it looks quite good.
     
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    I've been in Best Buy numerous times to look at them and unless there's Best Buy's carrying different models the 15" does indeed have a 1080p screen. And it's not that great of a screen. There's a lot worse, but it's notably of poor quality. The 17" on display is the Full HD Matte behind the touch panel. I'm pretty sure its the same screen as the non-touch matte on the CTO. I think somehow the touchscreen has a similiar affect to a glossy screen in smoothing out the image so I can't be 100% certain. I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to laptop screens so maybe someone that's a bit less picky will order 1080p 15" and be fine. It's certainly a very powerful well priced machine no matter how you spin it. If keyboard flex is a deal breaker for you (it really isn't for me), then I'd probably stay away, The flex on the left hand side of the 17" is pretty bad. The track pad is also not that great. The click buttons do not work well.
     
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    Certainly possible that the specs on the site are wrong, but there are no HP Envy 15.6" models listed on Best Buy's site at all that have a 1080p screen listed in the specs. And the price they're selling them for wouldn't make me think they're 1080p either. I don't remember what I saw in store, as I'm not looking at their 15" models anyway due to the lower end processor. I'll be there tomorrow though and will look more closely. Do you what model you were looking at?

    With the 17" CTO touch model gone from HP's site, I'm currently between the 17" model that BB carries and a 15" touch CTO from HP direct. Is the 17" you have the BB model, or is it one from HP while they had it on their site?
     
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    I do not have the touchscreen 17 inch. I bought the 17" CTO without a touch screen when they had the 20% off coupon going.
     
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    Can you replace the optical drive on the 17 with anything ?

    Also did anyone get a 15 inch without the clam-screened right side jiggle problem ?
     
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    Apologies if this has been asked before (haven't read the thread from top to bottom, yet) but has anyone successfully installed Win7 on this yet?
     
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    Debating getting this model from Costco -
    HP ENVY 15t Quad 1080p Laptop, Intel® Core

    Is there something I am missing? Seems like a pretty good price, but will I regret the 740M? Just wondering if I should wait for an HP sale and config something myself.
     
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