ENVY 17-32XX Intel Ivy Bridge (AMD 7850M)

hmm im not sure about that. but eyefinity is mostly used for games which support 3 screens... i believe... dont take my word on it cause im not sure never tried it. i just remember it being a big thing for nvidia when they were able to use 3+1 screens (3 for the game and 1 for a desktop) but that was on a desktop pc

 

For some reason I have it in the back of my mind that it's a content protection thing... Don't quote me on that

Sent from my SGH-i917 Windows Phone using Board Express

 

I thought I'd share my custom display settings. Tweaking the colors has really made a huge difference. Out of the box the display tends to push blue and look washed out. With the tweaked settings color have more pop, is more accurate, and has better contrast.

 

Did you come up with these settings by sight or did you use a calibration tool. At one time I thought someone was going to use one and post. Thanks for response.

 

By sight to match my my LCD which was also adjusted by sight. Sorry I don't have a professional calibration device.

 

Eyefinity can do up to six screens max.

You need to use Active DisplayPort adapters to go beyond 3 though. (and maybe daisy-chaining too)

https://www.google.com/search?q=displayport+daisy+chain

 

After Catalyst 12.2, AMD removed the necessary driver files for Afterburner to function correctly.

Due to Copyright reasons, Unwinder cannot bundle these files with Afterburner, but other users have uploaded the files online.

Put these files in Afterburner folder:
Download ATIDrivers.zip from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way

This will allow you to properly overclock the card in UnofficialOC mode.

 

ok, a couple of other minor issues i have noticed.

currently, i have my display set to "never" dim in the power management settings.
but i have noticed that ocassionally the display will dim one level for a few minutes and then go back up to the preset level.
maybe i shouldn't be using the "never" setting?

also, every once in a while i notice a miss-click with the left "button" on the trackpad. tapping seems to work all the time, but every once in a while the left click doesn't work. anybody else seeing this?

thanks.

 

Uncheck these:

 

Finally the Forums working. I can post again...

 

lolol adam what did u have for ur sig?

 

I had this quote... "I'm Super Awesome"... lol I think my Laptop specs...

 

Still no luck.

I put the files into the main Afterburner folder. Afterburner still reads 0/0. I started Meat Boy first and Afterburner picks up the correct GPU speeds but still can't adjust anything.

 

HP Envy 17 with AMD Radeon HD 7850m Diablo 3 High Settings - YouTube
Here's gameplay of Diablo 3 on High Settings. FPS were around 45-55. Graphics were amazing. And thanks to Shobster for giving me a Guest pass to play...

 

i thought i already explained this to u mav . but follow these steps if u wanna OC with afterburner:

1. install hp drivers (for switchable gpu)'
2. install 12.7 beta drivers (it improves performance)
3. have afterburner/install if u dont have
4. do the "unofficial Ocing" unlock (google it)
5. go to orb and search up "regedit" (BE VERY CAREFUL HERE THIS IS UR REGISTRY)
6. in regedit press ctrl+f (for find) and type in "enableulps"
7. change the value of it to "0" if its at "1"
8. restart comp
9. start up a game
10. alt+tab to get to desktop and startup msi afterburner
11. OC it
12. Enjoy

btw some tips:

• again be careful with regedit. if something from my directions for that is confusing ask first
• make sure to put game+ afterburner as high performance

there ya go. +rep would help! lemme know if u run into something else

 

Guru3D.com Forums - View Single Post - HOW TO: Enable UNOFFICIAL overclocking mode in MSI AfterBurner

Then:

Open a known app like 3DMark11 first. Then open MSI Afterburner. It should work after that:

 

Not on the Envy 17 Im afraid.... especially on the 17" screen...

ice

 

Hey guys. Thanks for trying to help. Here's the head scratcher.



1. ULPS was disabled via regedit. Rebooted afterwards.
2. ATI files previously linked are in the Afterburner folder
3. You can see both CFG files open and edited to unlock unofficial overclocking (profile and main folder CFG files)
4. You can see my driver version (12.7 beta is installed)
5. You can see switchable graphics has Dirt 3 on high performance. The game is running as you can see in the taskbar
6. 3DMark Vantage is also open
7. After Burner was opened AFTER the game and 3DMark
8. You can see my Afterburner settings page
9. Notice Afterburner detects the stock GPU speeds with Dirt 3 in the background
10. Notice the GPU settings are still at 0 and I can't adjust anything

 

Do not disable ULPS. I find that Enduro doesn't behave right with ULPS disabled.

If you have UAC enabled, you need to Right-click "MSI Afterburner", and "Run as Administrator" for it to work.

 

I've tried running Afterburner that way. Didn't make a difference. Changing ULPS settings either way didn't make a difference either.

I've tried so many different combinations of enable and disabling things (high performance mode, ULPS on/off, run Afterburner as admin or normal, 12.6 beta, 12.7 beta drivers, uninstalling drivers completely and doing a clean driver install, disabling themes, etc., Afterburner 2.2.1, 2.2.2)

Nothing has worked so far.

 

Maybe it has to do with your dual-display setup.

 

wait i got it disabled lol :| damn maybe thats why im getting pretty crappy battery life. lemme c if afterburner still works with it enabled. as for mav... idk man c if its the dual display or otherwise all i can say is reinstall :|

 

Yeah.. ULPS stands for "Ultra-Low Power State", which is basically the mode for the AMD GPU with the lowest power consumption possible.

You only disable ULPS on Desktop PCs with CrossFire enabled to overclock (because with ULPS enabled, the second card is turned off completely, like laptop Enduro). No idea when it started being thrown around as a necessity for laptop overclocking.

 

Yep. That did the trick. I think it's because I didn't have the ATI files previously and didn't disable my 2nd monitor on the last round of tests. I had previously unplugged my external monitor and it didn't work.

Thanks for the help!

Results at 800/1300. Peak GPU temp according to Afterburner was only 64C!

3DMark11
AMD Radeon HD 7850M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Hewlett-Packard 1853 score: P2882 3DMarks


3DMark Vantage
AMD Radeon HD 7850M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Hewlett-Packard 1853 score: P12254 3DMarks

 

ahh good explaination. +rep fo' u

 

Just got done playing Skyrim and Gameplay Video is already uploading to YouTube as we speak. The Graphics were amazing. I played on Ultra and it was very smooth... Will post link once complete...

 

nice i dont doubt it cause i can basically play ultra and its almost smooth (it is smooth when i put no aa/af this is with OC ofcourse)

and on a side note mav ur picture effed up this page haha its soo wide

 

HP Envy 17 with AMD Radeon HD 7850m The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim Ultra - YouTube
Skyrim on Ultra Setting...

 

i must say u got some sexy armor . what level are you and what armor is that? im at like 16 atm with blade armor


nvm saw u level up wow 77 haha. this game goes on for that long? and how are u only level 16 in heavy armor

 

Lol. FPS certainly under 25. And looks like sometimes close to 10. I have no idea where are you getting this 49-60 number from?
But if you can play like this then fine...
I would prefer medium-high settings and 30+ FPS to this.

 

Something must be off with the video or it's the fact he's recording it. I easily get 30+ and usually in the 40-50 range at Ultra settings.

True ultra settings that is, with everything maxed out manually, minus the shadows, shadows are terrible in Skyrim.

 

Fraps causes huge performance hit.

 

Well, fact is that 7970M gets 55FPS on ultra settings. That includes shadows in ultra. Even overclocked 7850M is about 2 times weaker. So ultra settings should be way too much load on the 7850M shoulders.
Im not so familiar with how much does low shadow quality add to your FPS, but it cant be +100%, can it? So theres no way that hes getting close to 70FPS with those settings.
Would have been clear, if he would have enabled FPS on screen, rather than just claiming the number.

Not nessesarily. Depends on your CPU and SSD/HDD perfomance and settings you use for recording.
But i agree that there are better programs than fraps, to record your videos.

 

hahaha ur out to get him arentcha? my 7750m can play ultra (preset mind you not maxed out ) anywhere from 30-50 fps depending on where its placed (30 outside, 50 inside) true my card is a bit oced. but his card is still around 30-40%% faster than mine so i can easily see 45-70 fps. the 55 fps on 7970m, u got from notebook check right? did u check what settings its on? i think its ultra+ full aa/af. the ulta preset is 4aa/0af. that makes alot of difference..


on another topic. the new sony viao 15 in u got, the ips screen is it the updated one hp is using or is it still with the orangegate issue? my friend is looking into buying one of those

 

Samsung Series 7 17.3" vs. HP Envy 17t-3200 17.3"

Thanks to MacHater's comments, I decided to compare these two machines even though I already had an Amazon order pending for the Samsung. And then two days ago I decided to go with the HP Envy (customized) for the following reasons:

In HP's favor:
1. Worried about Samsung's wifi issues due to poor antenna placement; very important
2. HP's 17t-3200 CTO comes with a full two year warranty (note: pre-configured HP Envys come with one year warranty)
3. All HP Envys come with "Concierge Service" - meaning only US trained and US located 24-hour support specialists with priority service (competing with Apple's renowned service?)
4. 21 day "no questions asked" return policy, including shipping, for full refund
5. 33% discount coupon available which yielded a price approx. $200 lower for the HP vs. the Samsung (until July 19 - coupon code: NBP9668) - with same processor, hard drive, wifi card, graphics card, etc.
6. Full version Norton's Internet Security for two years included
7. Full versions of Adobe Photoshop Elements and Adobe Premiere included (which I was going to buy in the next month anyway)
8. Access to hard drive and RAM via easily opened panel on bottom of laptop; upgrading to an SSD will not void the warranty (on Samsung, the entire bottom must be removed which will void the warranty immediately according to Samsung's website and verified during phone call to Samsung)
9. Design almost identical to Apple's MacBook Pro; it definitely does not look like older generations of HPs
10. Better keyboard lighting and design
11. Two hard drive bays

In Samsung's favor:
1. Thinner and one pound lighter
2. Sleek design
3. Possibly quieter fans
4. Non-glossy display

So for what it's worth, I want to thank everyone who takes so much time to update entries in this forum. I appreciate it greatly.

My HP will be delivered in about ten days; hopefully it will live up to my expectations. Otherwise, I'll return it and move on to the Samsung.

 

I also considered the Samsung Series 7. A couple things to note. The Samsung only has 1 HDD bay. The Envy 17 has 2. That was a deal breaker for me.

Also, the display on the Samsung is mediocre. Go to the Samsung subforum or any review. The colors and viewing angles aren't that great. Compare that with the above average reviews on the Envy 17's display.

Sound. Envy 17 blows the Samsung out of the water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIGb2EALcME

That video should give you a good idea of what you're looking at.

 

Apropos of nothing, I'm not sure what to make of HP's crazy system of discount coupons, particularly the 33% off coupon. I'm not sure whether to view it as a legit discount, an offset for artificially inflated prices, or somewhere in between. My new maxed out Envy was $3000 pre-coupon, and the coupon dropped it by $1100, which would clearly explain HP's monstrous financial woes if it wasn't a marketing gimmick. I've just got to feel miserably bad for anyone who didn't know about the discount or just missed it, because they would be getting seriously screwed over.

 

Maybe the 55fps is the minimum or average for the 7970m, mine does dip down to 30s range but I only see sub 30s at very detailed and large areas, like Calcemo's balcony in Markarth. Oh, and it's not low shadow settings, it's set to high, ultra wasn't worth it for the shadow details, high is a nice compromise for me.

 

I'll toss this post out here as well, so hopefully it'll get answered quicker:

 

So how easy is it to OC the GPU on this laptop? It seems some people just had to change some Afterburner config files while others are having problems doing it at all. I'm not to keen on having to change registry files and a bunch of other stuff if that's what it takes.

Trying to decide between this and a laptop with a 650M/660M.

 

The BIOS has fewer options than I've ever seen anywhere at any time. There are absolutely NO RAID options. From what I understand the motherboard used in the 32XX series Envy isn't as full-featured as the one in the 2XXX series and has no RAID support on the motherboard.

I can't even bypass booting the installed mSATA in BIOS.

 

Answers that question, then.

Thanks for letting me know. Time for plan C.

 

Equally important when considering OC ability, is the cooling solution in the laptops you're comparing. the 7850m is a very capable GPU and comparable to the 660m out of the box and OC ability. I've seen some crazy benchmarks from 650M laptops, but haven't seen what temperatures it runs at with those settings.

The 7850m OC's from 675/1000 to 800/1300 with ease and still runs relatively cool (64C max). I'm haven't tested the absolute limit on my card. Maybe someone can jump in and state how far they've been able to push this card.

Here's a benchmark for an OC'd MacBook Pro Retina posted in the 650m thread:
http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q509/jakubp12/1200core1650mem.jpg

More impressive than the score are the CPU temps! It's a scorcher.

 

the OCing troubles right now is because of the drivers still being in beta since these are relatively new cards. Thats why we gotta do unofficial OCing so changing registry stuff. as soon as new drivers are out, i expect the OCing issues to be solved.

u could push that a bit more

 

[OT]

Its same panel yes, but the orangegate issue is highly overrated. Its still a gorgeous screen for notebook.
[/OT]

If envy 17 would have been available in EU and if it had matte screen when it would have been my first choice. Since thats not a case, i made a compromise on GPU power and went with S15 instead. envy 15 was not an option since the lack of keypad was a deal breaker for me.
On the bonus side, i got the lightest 15incher (however i dont travel too much).

 

haha to each their own. as for the orangegate issue it is there but yeah it is overrated. i was just asking cause hp got a new panel

 

I don't think registry changes are needed. I re-enabled ULPS on everything and OCing works.

The main issue I think was the 2 missing ATI files that AMD chose to remove after 12.2.

I did not find that step in any tutorial until the post from a few days ago.

 

yeah i reenabled it also

 

Did you already know to get the 2 ATI files when you installed Afterburner? Tonight I'm going to see if the OC settings with when I hook up both my LCD's. Finally got an active displayport adapter. Might even grab my 24" LCD downstairs and try a 24" and dual 25.5" setup.

 

i forgot to mention them but yeah i put those in. but i dont remember if it with the current driver