ENVY 17-32XX Intel Ivy Bridge (AMD 7850M)

IMO, This Envy 17 was the best build quality of them all and since then I guess they did move into making it into the dv7 family, when I saw the launch and release of the Omen family I knew that was EOL for quality Envy's.

I followed the manual and took the laptop down to the cpu fan I completely forgot to take pics or make a video until the end but here are two mid way in closure. I have been looking at the new service and repair manuals from the new ones and to the best of my knowledge all you have is space for one sata hdd and one msata or m2m slot for a ssd chip. Find service manual and scroll through it. What are the exact model number and product of that line. From the cpu you have me when i look it up on cpu-info's website it tells me those new ones are soldered onto the board...

HP and me have a funny relationship I call and know more about my laptop than the reps and sometimes they take offense to it and try to screw me. Anyway the features on this laptop now are long gone but the new chips 5th gen i7- and Nvidia cards are better at heat and energy consumption and the graphics have way more memory. I feel in love with this beats audio spin wheel and really good sound from this series. People to this day are blown away from the speakers. I will research the new ones and see what laptops will be out in 4 months when my care pack ends.

 

Ugh I know. Build was awesome, but the QC was questionable lol. Mine came back yesterday all scratched up with prints everywhere. SO glad its being replaced.

The Omens are nice, but none have # keypads. As far as specs go, I still can't believe HP is cutting out switchable graphics. You've gotta choose between integrated or discrete. I hatr how they force us and then don't even leave us the option by locking down their BIOS. Just stupid.

Gonna miss those speakers.

 

When does your new notebook arrive will you review it please and post pics, I know this it the older model thread and all so link me to the new thread with your model numbers. What is the official name and series number. Envy 17 ??????

 

Sure. Can't see why not!

HP ENVY - 17t Touch Laptop
Product # L8L13AV_1

But I can't find anything in the support section when I search that, just the store page. So w/e I'll see whenever it comes.

 

Any updates?
I have been seeing a flood of ebay for the older k100 series but this last few days the new k200 series have been showing up with the new 5th gen i7 variations of the 5500u. I want to know how they perform and other details the manuals are up now on the hp site.

So far my Envy 17 3200 cto has been going strong just reformatted win7 and things are running smooth.

 

My apologies, I was holding off until I do some gaming on it. The only "game" I've installed thus far is X-Plane 10, which I doubt many of you have played.

The laptop performs surprisingly well in my software Dev usage, compiles applications in a breeze. However once in power saver mode, the dual core 5500U locks itself at an extremely conservative 0.77Ghz and that's when you really notice it. As you can imagine things get quite sluggish, new tabs take their time, responsiveness in general just plummets. In high performance I was seeing clock speed jumping up to around 2.99Ghz in task manager. As long as its in high performance, I don't find myself missing my old quad core i7-3820... Power saver, really is power saver in this notebook....

Battery life, in MY normal usage I've eeked out about 5 hours, and that's not with brightness all the way down, keyboard backlight on most of the time, and many browser tabs open. I haven't done a real rundown test, just normal use. The keyboard backlight isn't adjustable, its either off or on - no 3 levels, of fancy 2 row-at-a-time sequence turning on.

What benchmarks do you want me to perform (if any)? You'll be happy to hear that HP left Optimus enabled, so graphics switching between the Nvidia 850m and 5500u is perfect. Unlike the fiasco with the radeon 7850m...


Product number is K2z68av. Opened up the unit (post pictures later) and this thing is WAY less user assessible than the 3200 series. ONE hard drive bay, ONE fan and heatpipe for the CPU and GPU. Very unexpected for a 17" laptop.







Edit side note: I enabled virtualization in the BIOS and the hyper-v platform windows os feature and the CPU stayed locked at 2.40Ghz so I guess Intel speedstep stops working with it.



Second edit: task manager only see the virtualized clock speed, CPU does in fact still wind down to .77Ghz under Hyper-V.
Also, while in power saver, responsiveness is improved if I assign IE and Visual Studio to the dedicated 850m graphics. Program startup time is much improved.

 

Guys, I sent in my broken envy 15-3200 and they are sending me an HP Omen now ! I had the accidental package

 

Eyeballed those. Need my numeric keypad though

 

yeah I wanted one too but i had to make sacrifices. They were offering me an envy instead so I flat out refused. the thing im going to miss most are the page up/down/home keys on the side, maybe i can program the ones on the left.... oh and also the volume knob

 

Gah, I still keep reaching for that knob. Now I have to squint and search along the fn keys -_-

What was wrong with your envy 15?

 

well i accidentally dropped it a few times, the last time the screen casing and screen cracked. They said it wasnt worth the repair. Some of the ports were iffy too.

 

I upgraded to a 3840qm

Works great

 

Any one here running NBA 2K15 on their Envy-17t-3200? I somehow thought my laptop could handle any games comfortably but apparently not for NBA 2k15, experiencing a lot of lag and have to decrease video settings which I don't like.

 

Hello, it depends on your system configuration and drivers also what display drivers are you using? I will try and add that game to my list and see how it runs on my system I'll check back with you soon meanwhile I guess the best way to help is share you system specs and from there we can find a solution.

FYI: I have tried this and it works with some added hardware upgrades and this trick I can pretty much run games on max settings.

 

Looking for USB/AUDIO Part 689997-001 for a reasonable price... or for someone to sell the scraps of a broken Envy 17 3200 that has other issues.

 

Did you try eBay?

 

Has anyone updated to Windows 10 yet? Any problems?

 

My friend did on the envy 15 and he said he had no problems that he noticed so far

 

Also wondering if I should jump on 10. My envy's still going strong and I'll probably be using it for at least another year.

Any problems with the keyboard backlight proximity sensor? Screen brightness? Those were problems for the Windows 8 rollout that eventually got resolved.

 

My question is if any changes are made to the recovery partition during/after the upgrade? If I want to restore later, will it restore the OEM image or update the OEM image files/OS to Win10? (I assume W8.1, but assume = ass-u+me)

 

So far no luck on getting my screen to dim with any of the provided drivers with a straight install. Any ideas from anyone today doing the windows 10 upgrade. I have the Windows 10 Pro 64bit

 

Happy to report everything is running smoothly on my Envy 17 32xx.

 

Deos your dimmer button work? If so what process did you use and what driver works for you?

 

Try the windows 8 brightness fix file that was floating around here. Adds a value to the registry; takes like less than one second to run. Dumb windows update pushed my intel chipset driver update without me being able to stop it. Ran that, rebooted, then had control of brightness again. I can't remember the name right now, but I can look it up later if you can't find it. On Windows 10 Pro too btw.

EDIT: "W8_brightness_fix"

 

Did you try the drivers from the recovery partition?

 

Wow that is great can you paste the link to the file or page if you have it? I am going to uninstall all my dirvers now and get the onee that are new from AMD and then run this win8 fix. Is that the driver set you ran the fix on?

 

Nope - didn't touch my AMD drivers. Just updated the intel ones. AMD ones are 14.... something? Haha it's been a while.

https://onedrive.live.com/prev?cid=...NOLNHTDPbEg1qc&v=TextFileEditor&iam=undefined

Try that one bud - let me know how it works. It might be worth it to uninstall your drivers, install the latest ones, then run this fix, reboot and you should be good to go.

 

Ok here is the update I had to tinker a few times but I removed all drivers and installed the defaults that windows update provided then applied the fix and it works. I also noticed that my Intel 4000 was not being used and that the AMD 7850m was in use at all times and just being throttled. I GPU-z and HWIN64 opened and ran it on the lowest dim settings and did simple tasks and only got only 3 hours of life. So thus starts my trying to use the new ones form AMD for the series same thing 3 hours all the while the AMD chip always on. I tried to do it program by program but it works when the program opens but when it closes back to the AMD chip. I may go back and find some other drivers and try something else... Anyone having the same thing happen to them?

 

I ran the fix but it seems that the 7850m is in use the whole time and does not ever power down. Also when I sleep or hibernate it never recovers and crashes upon it coming back up. So at this point there are some major problems going on. Also the fan speed never powers down no matter how cool it gets. So at this point since I have saved a backup of files and migrated it to my other envy 17n I may try a fresh format install and see if it solves the issue with the not being able to sleep or recover from hibernate. I hate to lose all of the HP built on OSD and Beats apps. So I will try a clean Windows 10 install see what happens and try to get the Windows 8 apps from the HP support site then if its not a great experience I can reboot to my windows 7 and then try a upgrade to the 10 from there. or something of the sorts. I try this at some point in the day Ill keep checking the post feeds from other sites and find what most of the Envy 17 32xx users are doing with the windows 10 and there systems.

 

I say again:

If your recovery partition is untouched (even after a clean install) all the OEM software/drivers are located there. No need to go on a manhunt on HPs website.

I clean installed 8.1 when I got my new Envy and then selectively installed drivers and bloatware

 

I removed the recovery partition so all I have is the SWSetup folder on my c drive So I can go through that folder. I want to know which drivers work best the Win 7 Drivers or the Win 8 ones on the site or the new Windows 10 update ones. I just did a clean install that runs well but missing the features I installed the ones from HP that were for windows 8. Some gave issues I am going driver by driver to figure this out. I am currently working from my new Envy 17 n000cto which was an easy transition Since it was made for Win 8.1 so the upgrade went with out a hitch. These older Envy 17 3200cto I am going to have to tinker with so I can get them working fluid especially with this AMD ccc driver which I think was making the computer not come back from sleep and hibernate.

 

AMD's CCC has always been a pain in the a**.

Perhaps ill clone my recovery partition to another drive and just go from there if needed.

Good luck dude

 

Updated my Envy 17-3290er 3D to Windows 10 from Windows 7. Wasn't a clean install though.

Liked this OS a lot and everything worked fine until I wanted to dim my laptop screen. Didn't even know before that this 3D-version all the time was locked for using only Radeon 7850 and seems to be impossible to have both Radeon and Intel cards been activated. So far I understood, same problem with brightness controls malfunction began with Windows 8.1 appearance on the market.

Tried every possible solution with registry entries and nothing worked out. I mean, there were no "FeatureTestControl" entries in the registry and adding those obviously doesn't help. A solution for Asus-laptops with "KMD_EnableBrightnesslf2" and "KMD_EnableBrightnessInterface2" didn't help either.
Reinstalled my Radeon driver like 20 times, installed a legacy Catalyst_14.4_WHQL_UnifL_v2.2 version, installed Windows 7, 8, 10 versons from both HP ans AMD and nothing seems to ever help. I couldn't even change brightness while working on a standard Microsoft driver at a 1024x768 resolution. It's just impossible to dim a laptop screen. Lack of Intel 4000 graphics card in the system. Period.

Have no idea what to do. Reveresed my OS to a Windows 7 with Acronis backup, took a glance at Device Manager and surely saw same thing: there is no Intel 4000 card in the system, but brightness controls do work fine!

Any possibility of resolving this or I can just forget to hope using Windows 8.1 or 10 on this particular device? Downgrading BIOS, adding other registry entries for an AMD device, anything?

 

Good news everyone! If you make clean install of Windows 10 and first of all add the latest windows 8 driver downloaded from the HP drivers page, it all works! It's possible to dim a screen

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I saw someone with an Envy 17 3xxx who had the same issue and same report on the original HP driver having working dimming.

He then updated to the newest Drivers ontop of that old HP driver. Some residual registry dword stayed behind and allowed him to keep dimming.

If anyone cares to repeat this procedure .. you can try to find the dword with a registry snapshot application that can quickly compare added and remaining dwords:

https://mega.co.nz/#!4U8wxL5S!pINGof2XojByPokhZaItFFU87NjAX2sPNWJqoRLaLpY

 

Hey I have a few questions is it just me or does the battery life seem to drop in Windows 10 with what you have seen?

So far I have tried a few ways to test out Windows on my Envy 17 3200cto non-3d I have done the upgrade from my Win7 Pro drive and it seemed to be working well until I found out it could not dim and well as when I went to sleep it was not recovering. I think this was due to the driver I installed from the AMD site that gave it the error of power failure when coming back from sleep or hibernate. So after that I tried a clean boot that worked well but the same issue when I did not use the Windows update approved driver. So on my third install I am just using the windows default update drivers. I tested the battery life in Win 10 and i get about an hour less than I got in 7. I am still working with this Win 10 for a few days and see I i can get the desired results if not I may move back to Win 7 on my Envy 17 3200cto.

 

Hey I actually didn't try how battery was going on my clean install because I almost always use my laptop running connected as a desktop. So isn't a big deal for me.

Had to reverse back to my windows 7 backup cause I use this laptop for my everyday job tasks.

Going to try clean install again when I had more free time and will try to find any registry entries differences to find out what was going on with not clean update and this annoying dimming problem.

 

Since my update to 10 I have done 3 installs my original upgrade, my clean install and now a minimal recovery to 7 via the dvds then the upgrade. At all three phases I faced the same issue Internal_Power_Error and the dimmer issue. This final time I have also lost that popup from the CCC manager to which graphics card should be used. I am also running about 1:30 less in battery life I get 3:00 hrs now as I used to get 4:30. I am actively doing some research to get the right combo of new drivers for the 7850m or what ever else it needs but to this point I think that is the main issue. Any one that may have an Envy 17 3200cto non-3d running great in Windows 10 share if you can the methods and combos of drivers used it would be a great help. As I test things out a bit more and find solutions I will post and share. Thx all. Windows 10 did not flow as well as I thought its still a work in progress.

 

has anyone opened up a 17-3200CTO down to CPU access? Does the CPU/GPU use normal thermal paste, or some special pads?
Thank You
jim

IIF anyone cares, CPU upgrades are NO FUN. You need to tear the laptop completely down to access the CPU. Things kind of stick together, until you get them apart the first time... but subsystems seating tolerances are excellent... although the apparent build quality, is probably LESS than you believed. There doesn't seem to be ANY special thermal pads used, no matter what the Service Manual implies. There WAS a black sticker covering the CPU chip, but it certainly did NOT add to heat sink contact. I went from a 3720 -> 3840. Under load, the 3840 runs hotter... period. Under no load, all cores hover around ~47C. Under load however, I can breach >100C. The cooling solution is ADEQUATE, and keeps the average, under load, in the high 70's, but the fans will do double time for short durations. Was is worth it?? I wish I could get things so that is never throttles, but doubt that is going to happen. I WOULD upgrade a 36x0 -> 37x0, but to a 38x0, less sure.

10Oct2015
Re-pasted using Tuniq TX-4 and heat situation is 80C or less under 100% CPU load/10min... If you do this, DO NOT even fool around with anything other than TX-4 - jrm

 

Hi, just installed 2 external monitors both connected with display ports. How do I enable viewing 3 screens with the 3rd screen as the laptop screen. I could only get 2 at a time to work, either 2 external monitors or just the laptop monitor and one of the external monitors.

 

Battery is pretty much dead at this point. Anybody know of any battery replacements for this thing? Are the ones from the Envy 3000 compatible? They're all pretty expensive from what I can tell...

 

http://de.aliexpress.com/wholesale?...0112071202&SearchText=hp+envy+17+3000+battery

Try this.