ENVY 17-32XX Intel Ivy Bridge (AMD 7850M)

@Au4u, still not available in Canada eh? You should call

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AU4U, Lots of good tips & thanks for responding to many different questions across the thread. Good advice on the SLC vs MLC...

Regarding "why do the RAID 0 across 3 SSDs if only 7% gain" ?

Because my buddy can... He is our DBA and only sleeps about 3-4 hrs naturally and is a FPS & PVP-MMO maniac and tunes for speed. RAID 0 is pure stipe-ing so there is no parity calculations or what not to worry about. If the RAID 0 controller can talk faster than the SATA bottleneck and the SATA3 channel is faster than the 3 SSDs can handle then the gains could be up to 300%. That being said I don't know the bottlenecks and what gain he is getting over a single SSD...

Our DBA/Gamer couldn't care less regarding loss of data on his gaming rig... It is a pure minimal load out of just Win7 Pro and the games and nothing else... He turns off every un-needed service & overclocks everything and the only business software on it is the Citrix receiver to allow him to get his Outlook & such from our office servers... Every non-game need and all his data is in our internal cloud or his personal iSCSI & Network shared NAS so he doesn't care... That being said I did configure both Windows & NTI backups for him that run regularly when he isn't gaming on the system.

After seeing the DBA's Alienware m18 SLI config with 32GB RAM & 3 SSDs in RAID 0 our boss now wants me to do a 64-128GB RAM desktop system so he can put everything in a RAM disk just to kill both of us... When he doesn't want to use it I can reboot for our development/POC VMs so win/win...

As for me, I like trying to get the most bang for the buck and give something speedy to all our users which is why I am focusing on the Intel SRT & DataPlex options as we can afford that to many people internally (unlike our DBA & boss)...

I also like that my HP Envy system will end up costing 20-33% of his and have quite a bit of punch and be much more practical and portable... Hopefully my Momentus HDD with a single SDD Cache will have very good performance for the stuff I care about but give me more storage at a cost effective manner... We also do MMOs together so I am hoping to both show him up 3D and I hope I can push the MMOs over 60 frames per second to show him the benefits of 2D over a 120Hz monitor... His system will still kick mine to hell and back in many areas (I don't do FPS so I don't care) but there will be some things I can do that he can't and that is cool enough for me...

 

SSD's in RAID make a huge difference. I ran two 256gb Crucial M4's in my desktop (gaming rig) and the speed is amazing. After post the boot time is under 6 seconds, and applications load quicker than they did with just one SSD. Game loading times are also improved slightly. I'm usually the first one loaded into a BF3 map when the server switches maps.

 

Anyone getting it today, or the first ones get delivered tomorrow? Mine is coming in on Friday... Friday.... Gettin' down on Friday!

 

Thank you guys for your input! I just pulled the trigger on the Envy.

 

in terms of size: the thickeness of the 17' over the 15' isnt that much correct? Also, an education guess, how much battery life (normal usage) do you think the envy 17' will have, considering all the new thats out now?

 

I'd put my money on the 17 having 4-5 hours max.

 

4-5 hours is good enough for me

 

1.11 vs 1.28 inches. That's definitely enough to notice, but not much of a difference in actual use.

The Envy 15 gets way better battery life with it's 8 cell battery versus the 6 cell in the 17.

I'm expecting 5 hours tops for web browsing on the 17.

 

My Envy just left Alaska.

Jun 12, 2012 4:07 PM
Departed FedEx location
ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 11, 2012 2:57 PM
International shipment release - Import
ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 11, 2012 2:15 PM
In transit
ANCHORAGE, AK

 

I'm jealous mine says still in production. I don't know what the deal is they had the DV7 I ordered on 5/31/2012 in my hands the day of the estimated ship date. It had close to the same exact specs aside from the video card and screen of course. In fact its already on its way back to HP I'm willing to bet they get the DV7 back before my Envy even ships.

Just speculation but maybe it's probably because I called them up while it was in production and asked to cancel the order and they thought if they got it to me super fast I would keep and think HP was the best company ever for under promising and over delivering. Maybe I should call and try and cancel this order too just to see if that speeds things up.

 

Mines in transit in Alaska, probably en-route to a station to depart Alaska , mines right behind yours :3

Jun 12, 2012 5:18 PM
In transit
ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 12, 2012 3:49 PM
International shipment release - Import
ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 12, 2012 1:04 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
ANCHORAGE, AK

 

Order in production
(Estimated to ship on June 12, 2012)

 

ur in a bad batch this discussion is being made in the envy 15 thread. mine also i slike that

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so i was just browsing around for performance benchmarks for 7850m/7750m and I came upon the fact that the 7850m is supposed to be equal to desktop 7750 in performance... comparing the 3dmark11 score the 7750 (7850m) surpasses the gtx 660m score and is close to the 570m score. so there should be no worry that it cant tie 660m .... now if i could only find info on the 7750m

 

wow, our Envy's might be right next to each other then!

Jun 12, 2012 1:04 PM
Arrived at FedEx location ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 12, 2012 2:28 PM
International shipment release - Import ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 12, 2012 4:48 PM
Departed FedEx location ANCHORAGE, AK

 

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Hi - What day did you place your order ? Thanks !

 

Hi - What day did you place your order ? Thanks !

 

One more on the same plane:

Jun 12, 2012 4:25 PM
In transit
ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 12, 2012 3:49 PM
International shipment release - Import
ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 12, 2012 1:04 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
ANCHORAGE, AK

I ordered mine on 6/5.

 

I ordered on 06/05.

 

I too ordered on 06/05 and it's still in production. guess I'm just unlucky.

 

Ordered on 06/05

Jun 12, 2012 4:25 PM
In transit
ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 12, 2012 3:49 PM
International shipment release - Import
ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 12, 2012 1:04 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
ANCHORAGE, AK

 

It might be a 9-cell battery, the service manual has the battery listed as 9-cell, contacted them for clarification earlier today.

(16) Battery (9-cell, 91-Wh, 4.1-Ah, Li-ion) 657503-00

compared to the Envy 15 manual

(20) 8-cell, 72-Wh, 2.45-Ah, Li-ion battery 660152-00

 

That would make more sense I didn't think the Envy 15 would come with a bigger battery than the larger laptop with more room inside. Hopefully this is true.

 

You and me must be on the same batch lol. Here is my latest info:

Jun 12, 2012 4:25 PM
In transit
ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 12, 2012 3:49 PM
International shipment release - Import
ANCHORAGE, AK

Jun 12, 2012 1:04 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
ANCHORAGE, AK



Ordered mine: June 5 at 8:52am PDT
I live on the West Coast so hopefully I get it on or before specified delivery day of Friday, June 15.

 

I am getting mad now. Placed order on the 3rd, said the 12th for est shipping. Called hp and they had no info. I am ready to cancel, it's bs when you order the same thing as other people and they get shipping info 3-4 days prior and they ordered 1-2 days later.

 

Are you guys speculating that the 9 cell battery like fit in the shell with no rising of the company. That would be lovely!

 

I agree, I would be mega pissed as well. What was your system configuration? Perhaps there is one spec that was different that's holding yours up? If it's the same as mine and the others' who have already shipped, I'd raise hell to HP and at the very least demand a discount.

 

I'm pretty sure its the RAM. I ordered 1333mhz 8gb and its no longer an option on the website.

 

If that were the case then it's a pretty bad way of dealing with the problem. They should just upgrade to 1600mhz as cost difference is negligible.

 

sorry if i missed this info before.

but are you saying the envy 17 comes with a bigger battery than what is stated on the web page (6-cell)?

 

-.- ....yes. Seems illogical for a smaller laptop to have a bigger battery than its larger cousin.

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Well, it's either a 9 cell battery or a 2nd HDD bay. I'll take the 2nd HDD bay.

My Envy 17 just arrived! It's still in the box until I get home from work to shoot the unboxing video and comparison with the DV7T.

 

I can't wait to see your unboxing video and subsequent review! I hope the GPU can handle MMO gaming!

 

Touche, same here...
congrats!

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Awesome! But don't waste time on unboxing videos, nothing has changed since the last one and there are plenty of that already. Just do benches! That's what everyone is anxious to hear about.

 

Good point. I might just open it now and just do a product tour.

Edit: It's open! Did a quick inspection, no bent usb ports (I noticed this was an issue on previous generations) or anything. No cosmetic defects. It looks AMAZING compared to the DV7. Not to say the DV7 wasn't nice, but the Envy 17 is on a different level.

I'm going to burn the recovery DVD's during lunch and install the benchmarks. I've got 3DMark11, 3DMark06, and PCMark Vantage (gaming suite) benchmarks. Any other's you guys are curious to see?

 

Yup, i think we are in the same boat. Ordered mine June 5th 11:55am EST. My estimated shipment date was 06/14 (So my order is 3 days ahead of schedule). Is your configuration similar to mine? Specs are listed below:

Ordered - HP Envy 17 3D 32XX | Core i7-3720QM | 8GB RAM 1600MHz | 17.3" 1920x1080p Radiance HD 3D Infinity LED | ATI Radeon HD7850M 1GB GDDR5 | 1TB 5400RPM | Bluray | 720p HD Webcam | Windows 7 Premium 64-bit

 

• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
• Radeon(TM) HD 7850M Graphics 1GB GDDR5 Memory [HDMI, DP]
• 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• SSD 160GB+HDD 750G 7200 rpm Hybrid
• 17.3-inch diagonal Radiance Full HD Infinity LED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
• SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
• Intel 2x2 802.11a/b/g/n WLAN + Bluetooth(R)

LOL we ordered within 3 minutes of each other!

 

I'm curious to see as well when you change out to SSD and the caddy you mentioned earlier in the thread! That would be really helpful. Well could be a separate video after the unboxing and benchmarks.

Mine is on on FedEx vehicle for delivery and is around the neighborhood. Can't wait to get home now!

 

Dang, you guys are getting yours today? Mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow, so I look forward to reviews, benchmarks, and videos!

Rex-i7, if you want a video tutorial of installing a SSD into the empty hard drive slot, you can check this one out. It's pretty thorough. He demonstrates with an Envy17-3000 instead of our 3200's, but the process is pretty much identical.

Add a 2nd Hard Drive to a HP Envy 17 -3000 series laptop (3xxx) - YouTube

 

Knowing that the 7750M is already on par with the 650M GT, it's clear that the 7850M will obliterate it Amd is still here

 

Where did you get that info on the 7750M v. 650M? I'd like to read up more on it!

 

Forget the tour! Benches, man, benches! You might be the first one to bench it.

 

And take a peek at the battery to put this battery confusion to rest.

 

look at the envy 15 thread, some ppl benchmarked it

 

Oh, what about missing keystrokes, that was an issue on previous one. I think it was when you run on battery power.

 

i think that was also fixed

 

I'm also expecting mine on the 14th as well. But when i checked the tracking info, it showed "on FedEx vehicle for delivery" this morning. Usually FedEx arrives from 10-11am so it should be at home any minute now. Mav's first impression making me really excited!

Thanks for the youtube link, i'll check it out later.

 

Benchmarks, benchmarks, benchmarks.
Where are you?

 

look at the envy 15 thread for 7750m benchmarks. it is on par with the 650m, with OC i can see it going at 660m/570m. the 7850m should start out at 660m and increase from there with OC