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    Envy 14 fan noise

    Discussion in 'HP' started by DannyPants, Jul 19, 2010.

  1. archangel84

    archangel84 Notebook Enthusiast

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    was anybody able to resolve the fan noise issue completely ?
     
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    I've had best success by turning off "Fan always on" setting in the BIOS and running the integrated Intel graphics for general computing. It will turn on occasionally when browsing mostly due to Flash crap on the page.

    The fan will always run (I am assuming the GPU fan) if the AMD GPU is switched on.

    The main issue is the very coarse fan speeds -- If there could be one or two fan speeds in between the off and low speed, I think that will better allow the envy to keep constant temps.
     
  3. archangel84

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    How can I switch to integrated graphics ? I didn't see how can I configure that.
     
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    Are you running a Core i7 processor? If so, you do not have integrated graphics card and hence cannot switch. Only the i3 and i5 models have been equipped with integrated graphics card.

    If you're i3 or i5, right click on the desktop and select "Configure Switchable Graphics" and choose "Power-Saving GPU" to activate the integrated graphic card.
     
  5. archangel84

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    I am using core i7-840 processor - i guess i went way overboard customizing this laptop :(

    I have disabled the "fan always on" option from the BIOS though. I won't mind if the fan is running at constant speed but sometimes it goes high even when i am not running any games or high load apps - thats what bothers me.

    I called HP tech support today and discussed the issue - they recommended me to download and install the latest drivers which I've already done. Other than that they didn't have any solution and the guy said he doesn't know if there is any fix in progress.

    Guys let me know if anyone comes up with a solution for fan noise of i7 processors.
     
  6. jsalmont

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    Ok so I have a definitive answer to all this poppycock.

    I have two identical i450 envy 14t's both with SSD (ie no hdd heat).

    One is hella quiet, adjusting fan speed from off to full speed depending on tasks as it should, and one makes a ridiculous f&^% racket. It's epic. Laptopotron.

    The latter, aside from when it's in standby or off, is pushing the fan revolution envelope on Guinness book record levels.

    I curse the inattentive HP employee who made this machine. It was supposed to be my replacement. The silent i450 I have has a crappy touchpad.

    Such Hella Pro $hit.

    . :pl
     
  7. fhetw

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    I just updated my bios to F.23 and now my fan is always on and noisy despite 'Always On' being disabled int he bios. Previously it had been completely silent unless when needed. I find this more annoying than losing wireless after sleep, which was fixed w/ the bios update. Anyone have a solution? or is it safe to try to revert back to a previous bios?
     
  8. sujinge9

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    Lol yeah, when I first got my laptop I was impressed at how quiet it was, but then after I installed the newest bios, it became really annoying, especially with the slice battery attached.
     
  9. archangel84

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    Guys I've returned my laptop. I am thinking about getting one with lower specs than before.

    I am thinking about getting i7-720QM instead of i7-840QM and 8GB ram. do you think that laptop will be quiet compared to one with i7-840QM ? Any suggestions ?
     
  10. envy1222

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    i have an i5 460m on an envy 14 beats and have the same issue the original op mentioned. either fan is always on at very audible levels or fan cycles on and off, staying off no more than 2 seconds at a time. it's very irritating and taking away from what otherwise is a great laptop.

    are there any solutions to this problem besides sending it in for repairs? i have the latest bios, f.23 but that hasn't changed anything fan related. and also, can anyone that's sent in their envy for repair with the fan in mind, could you share what your experience was like and whether the problem got fixed?
     
  11. yun

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    Don't send it to repair, I tried, they will say " we are out of parts", then put your laptop on hold at least 2 weeks,
    Finally, they will "get" the part after "2 weeks" and send it back to u

    The total amount of time is about 3 weeks ( including shipping )

    Be smart......................
     
  12. CV43fan

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    I'm a new Envy 14 owner, and I have been lurking on this board for about a month now. It took me some time (and a $500. coupon) to decide if the Envy was a better choice than the Dell XPS 14. I thought I would weigh in on this topic. While I noticed the fan noise was a bit loud (i7 core), I managed to reduce it by at least 50% (using power options in Windows) without increasing core temps.

    The instructions:
    Control Panel>Power Options>Change Plan Settings>Change Advanced Power Settings>Expand Process Power Management>Expand System Cooling Policy>Change settings from "active" to "passive". Save changes.

    I've owned my Envy for 3 days, and the power setting change doesn't appear to impact performance or temps. While the fan noise was a bit high, it wasn't a "deal-breaker", but since making this change the fan noise is now a non-issue.
    I hope this helps those who need it; I'd rather be part of the solution.
     
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    Possible Fan Cycling Solution with Workaround

    I think I figured out the reason for the fan cycling. The problem is Turbo Boost. I looked at my CPU clock speed when the fan cycled, and it seemed that the fan cycled when it reached above 2.4 GHz (normal speed for a Core i5 520M). I believe that if you disable the Turbo Boost feature, the fan will not cycle while browsing web pages. I guess HP configured the fans to turn on when the CPU overclocks itself, and while this may be a nice feature, it can be annoying when the fan speeds up and down every few seconds while browsing flash websites.

    UPDATE: This is unfortunate. :(
    Source: http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-031316.htm

    I disabled the Turbo Boost driver but it still overclocked to 2.9 GHz, so I don't know how to fix the problem. HP needs to release a BIOS update to allow us to disable Turbo Boost. All I can say is to just keep your fingers crossed and hope that it happens.

    WE ALL NEED TO DEMAND THIS BIOS FEATURE!

    Workaround for Fan Cycling
    I noticed that while viewing a Lynda.com flash video, the fan sped up. However, when I set the Maximum processor state to 85%, the fan became stable. I don't mind underclocking my processor to keep my fan quite. Just experiment with the settings.

    NOTE: 85% Processor state will only clock at 2.04 GHz out of 2.4 GHz. This keeps the PC from reaching its maximum speed and switching to Turbo Boost.

    Formula: RegClockSpeed * PercentDecimal = NewClockSpeed
    E.g. 2.4 * 0.85 = 2.04 (you will have 2.04 GHz available)

    The key to calming the fan is to underclock the processor.

    UPDATE: Jan 15, 2011 @ 1:00 AM

    I am proud to announce that the fan cycling has stopped! I set my maximum processor state to 85% (2.04 GHz available) and opened tons of apps at once. Then I browsed a few flash websites, and still no fan speeding up. I did not notice any speed difference when underclocking the CPU. The temps were also in the lower 40 degrees Celsius.

    I hope my technique helps other Envy 14 owners. It helped me so much that I can hear my CPU whine again. ;)

    UPDATE: Jan 15, 2011 @ 3:12 PM

    I found out that the ATI graphics also works using this method. I recommend ATI graphics for this since it will keep the computer steady around 40 degrees and stop the lower fan cycling from happening. When I woke the computer up from sleep mode, I heard the fan cycle on low speed temporarily, since the temperatures could have been in the lower 28s and 30s while the processor heated up. The Envy 14 fan system was more stable between 37 and 54 degrees Celsius. A laptop cooler might make the machine completely quite but I'm not sure.

    UPDATE: Jan 16, 2011 @ 6:27 PM

    Since I haven't seen many reviews on Laptop cooling pads for the Envy 14, I decided to go out and buy the "Logitech Notebook Cooling Pad N100 (Gray)" to test it for myself. It sells for $24.46 on Amazon.com. I'm sure a laptop cooling pad can bring the temperatures 10 degrees lower but there is only one way to find out. I will keep you posted on my progress.

    Estimated Arrival Date: Jan. 19, 2011

    UPDATE: Jan 17, 2011 @ 1:55 AM

    Here's a temperature benchmark without a laptop cooler.

    Intel Core i5 520M CPU Temps

    The following programs were used during this test:

    - Windows Explorer
    - Notepad
    - Firefox
    - Internet Explorer
    - Windows Live Messenger
    - Outlook 2010
    - OneNote 2010
    - Word 2010
    - Publisher 2010
    - Excel 2010
    - PowerPoint 2010
    - Access 2010
    - Dreamweaver CS5
    - Fireworks CS5
    - Photoshop CS5
    - Flash Professional CS5
    - Flash Catalyst CS5
    - Flash Builder 4
    - Adobe Digital Editions
    - HWMonitor

    [Windows 7 Power Plans]

    NOTE: I had my laptop running on battery the entire time, but I modified the processor state to
    simulate the AC power at 85% or 100% clock speed.

    No Turbo Boost (custom made)
    ------------------------------------------------
    On Battery with a Maximum processor state of 65% running at 1.56 GHz
    Core #0 - Value: 45C (113F); Min: 42C (107F); Max: 53C (127F)
    Core #2 - Value: 44C (111F); Min: 43C (109F); Max: 54C (129F)
    [​IMG]


    On AC Power with a Maximum processor state of 85% running at 2.04 GHz
    Core #0 - Value: 46C (114F); Min: 42C (107F); Max: 59C (138F)
    Core #2 - Value: 44C (111F); Min: 41C (105F); Max: 60C (140F)
    [​IMG]


    High Performance
    ------------------------------------------------
    On AC Power
    Core #0 - Value: 45C (113F); Min: 34C (93F); Max: 70C (158F)
    Core #2 - Value: 44C (111F); Min: 34C (93F); Max: 71C (159F)
    [​IMG]


    NOTE: No matter which power plan I used, the performance seemed the same. However, I do have 8 GB of RAM in my machine, so you might experience different results. By lowering your processor speed by 15%, you save an average of 11 degrees Celsius. You might even get lower temps using a laptop cooler. I will continue the benchmark with the laptop cooler when it arrives.

    UPDATE: Jan 19, 2011 @ 11:12 PM

    After testing the laptop cooling pad against the rapid opening of applications during my tests, I only noticed a few degrees difference in temperatures. "No Turbo Boost" on battery produced a max temp of 52 degrees (2 degrees difference), "No Turbo Boost" on AC produced a max temp of 58 degrees (2 degrees difference), and "High Performance" produced a max temp of 70 degrees (1 degree difference). Based on these results, I do not recommend the purchasing of a laptop cooling pad. They hardly produce any results, and regardless of whether the fan is disabled or not, it stays on even with the cooler running. Also, the fan on the cooling pad seemed louder than the laptop's fan that is always running. If anyone wants screenshots of the results, I will gladly provide them.
     
  14. valismp

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    TRUSTAbyss:

    I have the same config as you (except 4 gigs of RAM), and with my power profile setup the same as you I am able to keep my fan constantly at the same speed- which is an improvement over it speeding up and down all the time.

    If I disable "fan always on" in my BIOS, the fan will turn off, then back on, every few seconds. I prefer always on at a low speed to on and off.

    Just to be clear: Has your fan stopped spinning completely, or is it just always spinning at the same (lower) RPM?
     
  15. TCenvy14

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    @TRUSTAbyss where did you get that intel CPU monitoring gadget?
     
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    Core Temp - Add Ons
     
  17. TRUSTAbyss

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    My fan pretty much stays on, even when I disable it in the BIOS. Just let it run at a steady speed constantly. It is better to have it on than off.
     
  18. ArsenalEnvy

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    Thanks for the advice.

    So far with the modifications, the fan remains on at all times, but much quieter. The fan runs enough to prevent the high pitched whine from occurring as much.

    Question though...did your benchmarks and settings incorporate the SSD tweaks (by NotebookReview member "jjb" I think) mentioned in the sticky thread for ENVY 14? I'm using those tweaks right now but was wondering if you had changed those settings too.
     
  19. TRUSTAbyss

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    My Envy 14 doesn't have a solid state drive (SSD). The only settings I changed was the power plan settings.
     
  20. krick

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    Just ran the JJB tweak on my SSD and have noticed that my fan runs constantly now, albeit at what seems like a fairly low speed, whereas it didn't before. Anyone else notice this and any thoughts on how to correct?
     
  21. h3nG

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    So you must've received your Envy 14 back from HP...Did they ever fix the sparkle issue with the screen?
     
  22. krick

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    They actually ended up sending me a brand new Envy instead of replacing the display, and the display has exactly the same issues as the old one. I think the sparkling (or speckling as I call it) is due to the fact (as recently discovered by another forum member) that the BV Infinity display is actually a matte display with a glossy plastic panel on top. The speckling is exactly the same as what I see on matte displays. Why on earth HP would put a glossy panel over a matte display I have no idea as you end up with the worst of both worlds - speckling/reduced contrast/reduced detail/reduced brightness + increased reflections/increased glare.
     
  23. Kotka

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    Hi there!
    I've been lurking here for a while... and I really hope HP can fix the problem ASAP. I've read your specs, and I didn't see anyone with a HP Envy 14 1190eo, with i7. Does anyone have it? I've had big troubles with that particular model making REALLY high noises. I've already adapted some of your tips but nothing worked.
     
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    HP Envy 14-1260SE beats audio
    BIOS F.23

    If the BIOS setting is continuous fan enabled, the fan runs at full speed continuously. CPU temp around 16 C.

    If the BIOS setting is continuous fan disabled, and using ATI GPU, the fan runs at full speed continuously. CPU temp around 16 C.

    If the BIOS setting is continuous fan disabled, and using Intel integrated graphics, the fan thrashes between off and full speed. CPU temp around 16 C.

    In comparison, my MacBook Pro 17 will vary the fan speed between around 1000 rpm (fairly quiet) to 6000 rpm (noisy, like the Envy 14).

    Or in comparison, my MacBook Air (1st gen, SSD) is almost always completely quiet.

    Yeah yeah yeah, I'm a Mac fanboy. I'm just using those for comparison. The HP Envy series is competing with the Apple MBA and MBP, and the (now discontinued) Dell Adamo. These are all nice, posh laptops.

    Hopefully a BIOS update will stop the off-or-full-bore fan thrashing. I pray that the fans are variable speed fans, and not fixed speed fans. If they are fixed speed fans, then there is no hope.

    Thrashing fan is FAR FAR FAR worse than continuous always-on full speed fan.
     
  25. akashhhhh

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    Ridiculous to suggest that the Envy is designed to compete with ultraportables like the MBA, Adamo or Samsung 9 series. Care to do a weight or performance comparison between those machines and the Envy?

    Envy competes with MBP, Dell XPS, even Ideapad Y series.
     
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    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone had found a solution for this issue?

    Two weeks after having purchased the Envy 14 with the i5-460, the laptop fan started making this very loud noise almost continuously....it was like having a hairdryer on....

    I read some of your posts here and followed a few steps. I downgraded the BIOS to the 5.17 then changed the Cooling policy to Passive (when on battery) and the Intel Graphics performance to Balanced (instead of maximum).

    Now the laptop is mostly silent when on battery, when plugged in the noise is not as constant and usually only kicks in when I've been using the laptop for a few hours (even if just doing very light tasks)....

    So yeah, it's a bit better but the fan still starts going at full speed for no apparent reason after a while.... And this is just using the integrated graphics, I haven't even tried using the ATI for gaming yet, I can only imagine the noise there...

    Anyone found any better solutions?
     
  28. Guppetto

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    I've only experienced the constant fan issue once with my Envy. I use it for software engineering and design. Although I was using my ENVY with no noticeable performance interruptions, after hearing the fans for about 5 minutes running full bore, I started killing process one by one to determine if some process had the CPU under load in the background. Low and behold, I determined that some extension or plugin under the Chrome web browser was the culprit. I doubt this is everyones problem, but if you are a frequent Chrome user, you may want to go through your extension list and point Chrome internally to an updated version of the Flash player. Chrome uses it's natively installed version of Flash unless you point it to an updated version.

    I hear the fans intermittently when using the ATI driver, but for the most part, my ENVY is quiet as a church mouse, even with Visual Studio, Illustrator and Photoshop all pounding on the Graphics card and processor. I'm using all the stock settings from the .23 Bios
     
  29. neo187

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    Curious you say that, I'm a frequent Chrome user indeed. How do you do the update you mentioned exactly?

    Thanks a lot
     
  30. Guppetto

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    Here is a link on how to manually update Chrome's flash plugin if you don't already have the latest version automatically installed.

    Use Flash Player with Google Chrome
     
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    16C? Mine runs between 30-70C depending on the task. Maybe your Envy isn't as flawed as the rest of ours.
     
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    How cold is it where you live? Over here the ambient air is a lot hotter than 60 degrees F
     
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    Hi!
    I just acquired a similar model an HP Envy 14 1190eo, with i7; YES, noise is an issue, i tried disabling CONTINUOUS FAN on the BIOS, but seems no difference...
    it also gets quite warm!
    i wonder if anything can be done!!
    :(
     
  34. eafd

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    Make a new power plan, title it something along the lines of "tweaked CPU"

    Go to advanced settings > Processor power management

    Set the CPU Max state to 85% on power, 65% on battery. Set the cooling policy to passive on both.

    It barely impacts performace, yet it manages to keep the fan on low pretty much all the time. It also increases battery life.

    You can unlock other settings that will help as well, but I won't go into that much depth here. Try the above, it'll work great.
     
  35. excalibur1814

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    My CPU is set to max 10% and min 0% and the fan still cycles off and on every 5 seconds or so.

    It would be nice if HP actually fixed these niggles instead of, you know, throwing webOS at every new machine that's to be released. FIX what you have sold HP!

    ANyway, does anyone have a fix that works?
     
  36. ArsenalEnvy

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    Do you have the "Fan Always On" setting in your BIOS set to disabled?
     
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    Yes, it's off. (I have, pretty much all the same settings on the Envy 13 which has zero problems)
     
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    Well, my problem is also that an incredible heat radiates from the top right corner. I've considered buying a coolpad, but after going through all posts once again I decided not to (one specific post did an experiment which concluded that there will be no significant difference in temperature with a pad!)

    My biggest problem is actually the temperature. I'm constantly afraid that something will burn up without futher notice. You may think that such a strong processor requires a good fan which never lets the temperatures up so high, so there are only a few explanations/questions left:



    • To compete with the MBP HP decided to make Envys' slim - but the air vents are placed in a strange way for such a slim computer. A medium-sized in the top right corner and another medium-sized in the middle of the back. They are a third respectively a quarter of the total lengths. The MBP has holes along the entire backside.
      This means that one reason for the extreme temperatures is a poor design of the chassi, which is not built for it's high-performance specs.

    • I've thought a lot about what came first - the insanely overreacting fan or the high temperatures due to poor design. Whoever can answer this question will be a great asset in finding the solution. As for my own opinion, I really hope it's the fan - who would want to put as much money on rebuilding a laptop as was paid for?

    • If it's the fan - are the temperature parameters simply badly calculated or is the fan itself an example of how people hate to work on Mondays, making them inapt to choose a proper, complementary fan for a monster processor?
      If the earlier - we need a person who is familiar with such work and can post recalculated options for us to try out. After reading the way HP handles customers I take it that they will most probably not do a s-h-i-t about requests as re-calculations or setting new parameters in BIOS. All they give you is, apparently, a BIOS update which is more or less unrelevant to the issue; for some people resulting in even more annoyance.


    At this point I no longer care if the fan makes noise - I need the insides of my Envy to stay solid and not disintegrate in a sorry puddle of 100 degrees celcius.
     
  39. eafd

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    It won't. The i7 envy never, ever (ok, very rarely) goes above 80C, even when gaming for many, many hours on end (spring break :D).

    As for the MBP's design with vents in the hinge, the hinge itself blocks a lot of the air. It's one of the reasons that MPB's get so hot.

    See here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/app...y-2011-mbp-i7-2-3-ghz-amd-6750-1gb-temps.html

    Latest gen i7 MPB's usually float in the 80's when taxed. Apparently apple just "lets" it get into the higher 90's. Way, way hotter than the Envy.



    The 65/85 power plan keeps temps below 60, usually in the 55's during normal use. A 40/40 plan can keep temps in the upper 40's, and with wifi and aero off, can decrease power consumption down to 15-20 watts. My 100/100 high performance power plan never goes above 85
     
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    I use my Envy for almost anything - gaming,simple browsing, watching movies and digital graphics/editing/#D modelling. Well, literally everything. Right now I'm only browsing the internet with no background apps running. My temperatures are around 58-61 degrees celcius at this instant. I don't know if this is normal or not.
    I also seemed to have forgotten the fact that metal transmits heat better than plastics and that's the reason it can feel alarmingly hotter.

    I started three modern up-to-date games with the highest quality settings to see the temperatures. This image is taken only a few minutes ago:


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    Yes, the temperatures are around 70 now, but it actually reached the 80-degree mark. Maybe it was only for a few seconds... but still. You tell me if this is good or bad. Or a case of relevacy.

    Currently I'm running the High-performance plan in Win7. I've tried your 65/85 option and I barely noticed a difference. Could you give me some tips, even if it's an "accept the fact"?

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    After some gaming, the temperatures are:


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  41. neo187

    neo187 Notebook Enthusiast

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    You know, this actually seems to be working for me.

    I had tried tweaking one of the existing plans (the HP recommended one) and changed the settings to something similar to what you posted. The fan was still going off very loudly at very random times.

    So I created a brand new plan like you said, and set the Processor Cooling Policy to Passive and the Maximum Processor State to 90%. I had also changed the Fan Always On option in the BIOS to Disabled.

    It's been almost a week now and the laptop has been CONSIDERABLY more silent, with the fan increasing speed sporadically but almost never to the hair dryer level of before.... Placing those settings in a whole different plan from the existing ones seems to have done the trick somehow.

    Hopefully it stays this way. Thank you for your help!
     
  42. Backles

    Backles Newbie

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    Well, I've done the Power plan method and installed the newest BIOS which is F.23. None of this really helped. The fan is just loud all the time. It's not like super loud but compared with HP g63x, Acer 2 year old computer, MBP 13, and 15, it's just louder when I am just browsing the internet. It's pretty noticeable. Great, I know HP has a better control of the temperature than MBPs but the fan noise just gets me all the time while the background is semi quiet. Even I sit next to the fridge which is pretty loud when it's working, I can still hear the fan easily. I wonder if HP is going to do something about it or someone out there can figure out a way to fix it.

    I wouldn't say this is a problem if 90% of the laptop does it. But by comparing a lot of my friends' laptops, ENVY unfortunately out win pretty much every time. The comparison is made under light use condition. When playing games, every laptop is loud. I am pretty upset because this is the my first time purchasing a laptop and I put up with the noise since I THOUGHT the noise is normal until I couldn't stand it anymore then I started asking people. And the feedback I got is really depressing since ENVY should be a rival of MBP which kinda indicate that the quality should be good too. I admit ENVY is a really nice laptop. Now without radiance, okay I can live with that. But the noise just unacceptable for me.

    I am going to send this laptop back for some repair service which is recommended by the online support. However, I really doubt whether it would resolve this problem since a lot of people are having this problem. I'll keep you guys posted. But I will send it back around June because I need it right now.....
     
  43. neo187

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    did you also disable the option Fan Always On in the BIOS? That's on by default...

    I'm sorry to hear that it didn't work for you....i've had the "tweaked plan" on for about a month now and my Envy is still very quiet, even during 3D modelling sessions (haven't tried games yet)...

    Before then I was in exactly your same situation, that constant fan sound was really driving me nuts, especially knowing that my previous laptop, an Acer that cost me half the price of the Envy when I bought it, after 3 years of use was still nice a quiet....

    I would have probably returned my Envy too if i hadn't found a solution that worked....

    Technical support is useless, at least the UK one, when you mention the issue they just ask you to send it in for a repair, though I doubt that it would come very different...
     
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    Thanks for your input. I've changed the fan not to stay on always. But it's only quiet when I just turn the computer on. Afterwards, the fan is always on. I don't notice any difference before and after the tweak. I really wish there will be a permanent solution to this annoying problem.
     
  45. sunburn74

    sunburn74 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi all,

    I own an HP envy 14 with the 560m processor and the radeon 5650 gpu

    I found that none of the settings regard fan management that people recommend work for me. The bios was a failure, the downclocking a failure, the passive cooling policy a failure.

    The only thing left for me to do was to follow the footsteps of a couple of guys who posted how they disassembled their laptops, cleaned the heatsinks and put new thermal paste. However, the never really followed up with why they did it or what the results were.

    Anyway I did it anyway after being frustrated at how loud my laptop was and how annoying the fan cycling was.

    If you plan on disassembling your HP envy and cleaning the heatsinks here are a few tips I wish someone would have told me
    1) have the manual for your laptop in front of you. there are disassembly instructions in there. you pretty much have to totally dissassemble the laptop to get at the heatsinks
    2) youtube zif connectors and the proper way to open and close them. this laptop uses a ton of zif connectors
    3) be patient. it took me about 2 hours to get to the heatsinks. reassembly is easier. just don't forget to reconnect the trackpad like i did. and remember the power connector extension that cuts across the board in a long black cable connects under the mobo and plugs into the battery charger complex. its very misleading because the charger complex only has prongs for the lower half of that power connector extension even though the extension has upper and lower holes/inputs. this took me like 30 mins to figure out and the manual doesn't help.

    When I opened the laptop, I saw that they used the method of a dollop of heatsink compound in the middle and then simply placed the heatsink on top. The heatinks are not smooth at all and are pretty scuffed up actually. There were obvious areas where the dollop of thermal grease didn't spread so well. Anyway I cleaned everything and used IC diamond. I spread it on the chips with a stiff card and then placed a dollop in the middle for additional spreadage. Everyone has their own style of how to spread compound. Thats what I did. Of note, there was very very little dust on the fans and the intakes.

    My results:
    Prior to this endeavour my cpu idles at like 41 deg c according to speed fan and the fan would power cycle on and off to 5 sec durations with 2 second pause intervals. This was regardless of activity.

    Now my cpu idles at 36-37 deg C and the fan is a low, steady hum. It doesn’t seem to really to ramp up at all either. I keep double checking the “always fan on” setting and sure enough I have that turned off. When I switch to always on it is noticeably louder. I will monitor and post results in the future but overall I am pretty happy.
     
  46. sunburn74

    sunburn74 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Fan power cycling actually appears to have totally resolved 2 days in! On cold boot the fan does not spin up and will remain off entirely. Even as I type this there is no fan noise coming from my HP envy, with neither a constant hum or the power cycling at all. I'm really not sure what is going on but I am extremely thrilled
     
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    Anyone knows how can I set the fan to run at full speed always? Its just Im having some overheat issues and I want to do this! I cant find it on the bios! and no application works with this!
     
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    I have an Envy 14 1110nr 8gb ram, ATI 5650. Bought this from my brother who happens to work for HP in their Marketing product roll-out department (goes around the worls to the various electronics expos and showcases HPs stuff) Anyways he sole me this Envy and since i bought it the fan runs at full speed constant. Nothing provided above, the power plans adjustment, fan always on in bios to off, turning off turbo boost, nothing works. My temps are around 35-38C constantly. I absolutely love this laptop but I must admit this puppy is loud from the moment I turn it on. I am considering doing what sunburn74 did and take it apart and redo the thermal paste, at this point I feel I have nothing to lose. On a side note my nephew, my brothers oldest son has the exact same Envy, all specs identical except his has 4gb of ram. And his is as quite as a mouse, I dont think I have ever heard his fans kick on. And the only thing he has done was turn the fan always on to off in bios. I have even downgrade my bios to f.13 and f.23 (gone through both) just too see about changing settings for turbo boost, and what not... nothing resolves the fans. It sound to me like its the fan on the right side of the laptop as I rarely hear the fan underneath the keyboard, and i know its no the HDD as I have replaced it with a samsung hdd. Anyways sorry for the long post this is my first here as I made this account to continue this thread specifically. Does anyone know if its possible to replace thje fans? And on another side note I am completely confused why my nephews exact same Envy model 1110nr would be completely quiet while mine is loud.
     
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